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Title: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: NowhereMan28 on February 02, 2012, 03:22:10 PM
It has been 50 years since the three other Beatles fired Pete Best in a rather sneaky and crappy way. He was not only a drummer but their loyal friend. Although I am a HUGE Ringo fan and consider him to be a superior drummer, I still would like Macca to make amends. It's been too long, and I think that Pete deserves a chance to talk with Paul and just be friendly again with each other. Metallica did it with Dave Mustaine and now they are all friends again and even tour together! I think it would be awesome if they made amends and the Pete Best Band opened for Macca on tour!
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 02, 2012, 05:07:21 PM


That's what I am after.  A beer summit & maybe have a play.



Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: tkitna on February 02, 2012, 05:19:25 PM
Paul ought to invite Pete for a one off gig and then bring in another drummer at the last minute. Thats what i'd like to see.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Mairi on February 02, 2012, 05:44:02 PM
Reality show.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: NowhereMan28 on February 02, 2012, 05:59:04 PM
I think it could be a GREAT TV special or reality show kind of deal also, aside from the fact that it is something that just should happen because of the bitter history
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Mairi on February 02, 2012, 06:53:11 PM
I don't think that Paul will ever do it, though. he's way too damn arrogant and pompous.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: blmeanie on February 02, 2012, 06:58:46 PM
Paul ought to invite Pete for a one off gig and then bring in another drummer at the last minute. Thats what i'd like to see.


Most likely the funniest thing I have read in a long long time  ;yes
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Bobber on February 02, 2012, 07:57:36 PM
I don't think that Paul will ever do it, though. he's way too damn arrogant and pompous.

It's been too long ago and nobody cares. Paul doesn't care and I'm pretty sure Pete doesn't care either. It has nothing to do with being arrogant or pompous. I'm not seeing any friends of forty years ago. Just because there seems to be a coincidence of two fans in here want to see them performing together? It makes no sense.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: NowhereMan28 on February 02, 2012, 08:06:46 PM
OK BOBBER first off, I think there are ALOT more than two fans who would LOVE to see this happen. It is one of the MOST INFAMOUS CONTROVERSIES in history, and I think it should be dealt with somehow before Macca drops dead! Macca will probably NEVER do it I agree because he's one of the most pompous and egotistical people on EARTH and he has tried to rewrite history by diminishing others' contributions to the Beatles and enhancing his own. Look at early interviews when Paul talked about Stu Sutcliffe being a GREAT bass player, and then 30 years later on Anthology he says that he couldn't play a note.

Pete and Paul were FRIENDS, not just band mates and I think he deserves an apology or explanation for what he did as a FRIEND, not the drumming aspect, because I do think Ringo is a TEN TIMES better drummer.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Sir John Johns on February 02, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
I don't think PB would benefit from playing support for Paul - On the major tours, usually it's the opening band's record company/management paying a fee to get them on the tour.

Even if there was a remote possibilty of Pete Best being the support act - He would be playing to a relatively small crowd of disinterested people - munching on stadium fare, putting on their newly bought tourshirt, and posting photos on Facebook/Twitter.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Rising Starr on February 02, 2012, 11:37:48 PM
I have friends I dropped 30 years ago, and I see no reason to get back together with them.  No need or desire.  Why should Beatle be any different?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Mairi on February 03, 2012, 12:22:27 AM
It's been too long ago and nobody cares. Paul doesn't care and I'm pretty sure Pete doesn't care either. It has nothing to do with being arrogant or pompous. I'm not seeing any friends of forty years ago. Just because there seems to be a coincidence of two fans in here want to see them performing together? It makes no sense.

Yeah, you're right.

I just meant that I don't see why Paul would ever consider this. I'm sure he considers Pete Best to be totally in the past, someone he never speaks to anymore.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: tkitna on February 03, 2012, 12:49:48 AM
OK BOBBER first off, I think there are ALOT more than two fans who would LOVE to see this happen.

Not on this forum.

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Pete and Paul were FRIENDS, not just band mates and I think he deserves an apology or explanation for what he did as a FRIEND, not the drumming aspect, because I do think Ringo is a TEN TIMES better drummer.

Lol. Paul never liked Pete. He's probably the last person to ask this of.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Bobber on February 03, 2012, 09:10:29 AM
What strikes me most is that Paul is now considered to be arrogant and pompous. Of course John and George are no longer with us, but they never considered to even get in touch with Pete Best as far as I know. If they had been really friends, things would have gone different.

Another thing is that this is the second time in a short period that a new member makes such a big point of this thing. Looks like a lobby to me. Oh, and writing in capitals comes off as shouting to me. Me no like.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: NowhereMan28 on February 03, 2012, 02:16:36 PM
I also thought George and John were wrong. At least John at the end of his life considered himself a coward for the manner in which they dumped Pete.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: stevejrogers on February 03, 2012, 08:25:45 PM
What strikes me most is that Paul is now considered to be arrogant and pompous. Of course John and George are no longer with us, but they never considered to even get in touch with Pete Best as far as I know. If they had been really friends, things would have gone different.

Another thing is that this is the second time in a short period that a new member makes such a big point of this thing. Looks like a lobby to me. Oh, and writing in capitals comes off as shouting to me. Me no like.

I have to agree. 

While it'd be cool, but really it would just be for the nostalgia factor.

AFAIK there isn't a real history of deep rooted hatred and/or acrimony between the two that sure did exist within various combos of John, Paul and George.  So you really can't use "they ought to bury the hatchet" because there really isn't a hatchet to bury.

It was a sacking, part of the business they chose.  End of story. 

Sure a reunion would be nice as a one shot deal, but it's not something to say "Paul needs to set things right by Pete" about some 50 years later.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Mairi on February 03, 2012, 08:31:53 PM
What strikes me most is that Paul is now considered to be arrogant and pompous. Of course John and George are no longer with us, but they never considered to even get in touch with Pete Best as far as I know. If they had been really friends, things would have gone different.

I mean that in the most loving way possible. Paul's arrogance is rightfully deserved as I'd say he's one of the most successful entertainers of all time.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Bobber on February 03, 2012, 09:20:15 PM
I mean that in the most loving way possible. Paul's arrogance is rightfully deserved as I'd say he's one of the most successful entertainers of all time.

You're able to get something good out of anything! lol
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Mairi on February 03, 2012, 09:27:04 PM
Yep, pretty much!
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 04, 2012, 01:38:04 PM


Another thing is that this is the second time in a short period that a new member makes such a big point of this thing. Looks like a lobby to me. Oh, and writing in capitals comes off as shouting to me. Me no like.


New member #1 here.  I am not a lobby.

I think Pete & Paul were friends.  Maybe not as close as Pete was to John, but you don't spend a good part of 2 years living and working with each other everyday without being friends.  I have friends that can be real jerks, assh---s & losers from time to time.  They are still my friends.

I want to see a "reunion" not because they were friends, but as a final added closure to Beatles history.  I will go a step further.  I want to see a new record too, with Paul, Ringo & Pete.  An old time Hamburg style Rock & Roll song.  An original or maybe just a remake of Chuck Berry's "Rock & Roll Music".  Maybe ask Klauss to sit in for Stu on bass & ask Tony Sheridan to help out as well.  A one off song wouldn't hurt the Fab Four's place in history anymore than having Pete & Stu in the band at the beginning did.


Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: NowhereMan28 on February 04, 2012, 04:56:10 PM
Beatlesattheirbest I tried contacting you on kickstarter! I messages you the other day about the movie and how I would like to help !! This is shaun right??!!
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: stevejrogers on February 04, 2012, 05:06:46 PM

New member #1 here.  I am not a lobby.

I think Pete & Paul were friends.  Maybe not as close as Pete was to John, but you don't spend a good part of 2 years living and working with each other everyday without being friends.  I have friends that can be real jerks, assh---s & losers from time to time.  They are still my friends.

I want to see a "reunion" not because they were friends, but as a final added closure to Beatles history.  I will go a step further.  I want to see a new record too, with Paul, Ringo & Pete.  An old time Hamburg style Rock & Roll song.  An original or maybe just a remake of Chuck Berry's "Rock & Roll Music".  Maybe ask Klauss to sit in for Stu on bass & ask Tony Sheridan to help out as well.  A one off song wouldn't hurt the Fab Four's place in history anymore than having Pete & Stu in the band at the beginning did.


That's a bit much no? 

Tony Sheridan!?

As fun as it might be for the sake of nostalgia, I think all that is way too much.

I mean why stop there.  Rod Davis and Pete Shotton are still with us, have Paul bring them and the current Quarrymen, which includes Rod and Len Garry (http://www.originalquarrymen.co.uk/) and have a Quarrymen reunion fette in the middle of a giant stadium show with 75,000 fans expecting rock music? 

Oh I'd be all for it, but I'd be pretty sure the Quarrymen would be met with the same reaction Ravi Shankar was met with during George's Dark Horse tour.

Nostalgia is great and if their paths ever cross with Pete on the drums at a Paul McCartney concert it would be neat for a one-time deal, but I think you are going a bit overboard by making it into a major event complete with a Hamburg style album.

As far as closure?  I don't think closure really is necessary in terms of this sort of thing.  Pete is remembered fine, now if he is hurting for cash or something like that, then I can see Paul reaching out to him, whether by choice or guiltied into it.  There isn't a hatchet to be buried, it's a chapter in their lives that doesn't need to be revisited. 

For both of them, that time is just one of those people and things that went before (to steal a line from In My Life) and yes, no matter how close you were for a two year period, time has a way of causing friends to no longer be that, no matter how much or little animosity may have gone into the breaking of the original friendship or partnership.

It's been 50 years, as Paul McCartney sings, let it be.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Klang on February 04, 2012, 05:31:34 PM

Well, as long as we're tinkering with reality, how about Pete as one of Ringo's All-Stars?

 :D

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Bobber on February 05, 2012, 10:52:45 AM
Well, as long as we're tinkering with reality, how about Pete as one of Ringo's All-Stars?

 :D

But what should Pete do on stage? Play drums?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Klang on February 05, 2012, 12:23:31 PM
But what should Pete do on stage? Play drums?

Guess so. There's always second drummer.

Anyway...seriously...this obviously won't happen.

 :D

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Nada Surf on February 05, 2012, 04:54:06 PM
LOL Klang...
I thought Pete on Ringo's All Stars would have been hilarious.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Bobber on February 05, 2012, 07:12:03 PM
Guess so. There's always second drummer.

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure one of the Pete Best fans certainly will), but isn't it so that Pete doesn't even play drums on most of the songs he plays live with his band?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Nada Surf on February 06, 2012, 05:02:36 PM
He's always with another drummer, for some reason...
I think he first brought his younger brother on stage with him.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Bobber on February 06, 2012, 07:37:40 PM
He's always with another drummer, for some reason...
Now, what reason would that be?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Nada Surf on February 06, 2012, 08:34:27 PM
I don't know, Bobber..but he can't be THAT bad...The Beatles would have dumped him much sooner...by the way, what was that book named that corrected all the mistakes written of the band in the early 60s?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Joost on February 06, 2012, 08:55:18 PM
I think you can look at Pete Best's situation from two different points of view.

One: Pete Best could've had the greatest job in the world, but got dumped for no apparant reason and had to spend the rest of his life as the guy who's name is almost a synonym of the word misfortune. So he got royally screwed.

Two: Pete Best got sacked because for some reason, the people in charge thought that he wasn't the right guy for the job. It just wasn't meant to be. So he ended up just being a guy who played in a local rock 'n' roll band, just like thousands of his peers. The difference is that 99,99% of all those others guys only have a few photos, a handful of anecdotes and maybe an obscure record or two to remind them of their old bands, while Best ended up being a fairly wealthy guy, a minor celebrity and somewhat of a mythical cult hero who's playing is to this day being heard by millions. Which isn't such a bad reward for two years of work that he did 50 years ago.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 06, 2012, 09:44:41 PM
Beatlesattheirbest I tried contacting you on kickstarter! I messages you the other day about the movie and how I would like to help !! This is shaun right??!!


 
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but last week was a bit hectic. I share your enthusiasm for The Beatles and desire to see the REAL truth about the early years of the group come out. The Beatles were 1960-1970, John, Paul, George, Stu, Pete & Ringo. Most fans don't know about Best & Sutcliffe. A lot of the ones who do know about them don't know the real truth. They think they do, but they don't. Others feel they have to attack or diminish Best & Sutcliffe out of loyalty to John, Paul, George & Ringo and the 1962-1970 Beatles version of history. I like all six former Beatles. I am not into comparing Best & Starr or even judging whether McCartney needs to apologize to Pete. I am simply seeking to see the truth come out. The real truth, not some McCartney, Harrison & Starr self serving spin. Like John Lennon said, Gimme Some Truth! And I am seeking a happy ending to The Beatles history that will serve as a bookend to the beginning of Beatles history.


 

As for my film, it is not big budget. It is no budget. I made it by accident while I was researching a different film about the influence of The Beatles on Michael Jackson. The Beatles at their Best was made using information anyone can find on the internet. It's probably more factually based than most Beatles films and tells the story from a different perspective. I've been paying money to enter it in festivals with mixed results. I am looking for new ways to push this subject into the public's present consciousness. I made the film to promote an issue. Like you, I too feel that the events that took place during the formation of The Beatles and their first 2 years have not been properly told. This important time Rock & Roll history has not been properly reported. Pete Best's (and Stu Sutcliffe's) significant contribution to helping The Beatles become the most unbelievable phenomenon in entertainment history has not been told. So, that's what I am trying to do. That's why I made a film. That's why I give interviews when asked. That's why I post on Beatles Boards. That's why I am emailing you back right now.



I would like to not only see a reunion, but also a new record with McCartney, Best & Starr (single or album) doing it old time Hamburg style! This summer is the 50th anniversary of Pete's sacking and Ringo joining the group. Let's both continue to do what we can to bring attention to this issue.

 

All the best!

 
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 06, 2012, 09:51:07 PM
I think you can look at Pete Best's situation from two different points of view.

One: Pete Best could've had the greatest job in the world, but got dumped for no apparant reason and had to spend the rest of his life as the guy who's name is almost a synonym of the word misfortune. So he got royally screwed.

Two: Pete Best got sacked because for some reason, the people in charge thought that he wasn't the right guy for the job. It just wasn't meant to be. So he ended up just being a guy who played in a local rock 'n' roll band, just like thousands of his peers. The difference is that 99,99% of all those others guys only have a few photos, a handful of anecdotes and maybe an obscure record or two to remind them of their old bands, while Best ended up being a fairly wealthy guy, a minor celebrity and somewhat of a mythical cult hero who's playing is to this day being heard by millions. Which isn't such a bad reward for two years of work that he did 50 years ago.

I go more with #2.  But for me that is not the issue.  The issue is that the first 2-3 years that led up to the Fab Four as the world knows it has not properly been told.  The Beatles Anthology sure didn't tell it right. I would simply like to see a more acurate version of this important part of Rock & Roll history be told.

A "reunion" would be nice though.  I think it would be a good thing for all concerned.  A new single with Paul, Ringo & Pete would be even better!

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: tkitna on February 06, 2012, 10:09:17 PM
I go more with #2.  But for me that is not the issue.  The issue is that the first 2-3 years that led up to the Fab Four as the world knows it has not properly been told.  The Beatles Anthology sure didn't tell it right. I would simply like to see a more acurate version of this important part of Rock & Roll history be told.

What makes you think you know the acurate version? I'm just curious because I get slammed for my opinions based on books I read, articles, and interviews. How did you collect your data? Were you there?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: stevejrogers on February 06, 2012, 11:30:44 PM
I brought this up elsewhere, and a poster said a few things that made sense:

-The time to do this has long since passed.  He didn't say it, but I'm guessing during John Lennon's lifetime, or soon after his murder.

-Anything more than a friendly photo op backstage at a gig, charity function or whatever will be seen as been phony and fake on the part of Paul and/or Ringo and a money grab for Pete.  You as a Pete Best fan may get some satisfaction and closure from it, but to the masses, the former is exactly how it will be perceived.

I'll go on to add that thanks to the information and digital age, and the sheer amount if Beatle fans that love all the behind the scences things that are part of Beatle history, there is no way Pete Best is going to go back to being an obscure part of rock history or a punchline (see Pipp, Wally and Gehrig, Lou).  He's done quite well for himself and as I said, it's not like he is going to fade into obscurity.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Bobber on February 07, 2012, 08:31:08 AM
by the way, what was that book named that corrected all the mistakes written of the band in the early 60s?

Fact And Fiction 1960-1962 by Eric Krasker. There's a thread on the book in the book section. Eric is a member in here as well, tho we don't see him very often these days.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 07, 2012, 10:55:20 AM
I mean that in the most loving way possible. Paul's arrogance is rightfully deserved as I'd say he's one of the most successful entertainers of all time.

I agree.  When you are #1 all-time, it's not arrogance.  It's the truth.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 07, 2012, 11:13:45 AM
What makes you think you know the acurate version? I'm just curious because I get slammed for my opinions based on books I read, articles, and interviews. How did you collect your data? Were you there?

No, I was not there.  I wasn't on the moon either but I know that Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, Jr were.

I am simply pointing out undisputed, yet often unreported facts.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Bobber on February 07, 2012, 12:33:12 PM
No, I was not there.  I wasn't on the moon either but I know that Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, Jr were.

I am simply pointing out undisputed, yet often unreported facts.



So, no sources?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: nimrod on February 07, 2012, 12:49:35 PM
I actually dont care about Pete Best (am I the only one?)

For me he was their drummer until they deemed him (for whatever reason, Im not too bothered to know why) not good enough and before they started writing great songs.

I feel sorry for Pete (what he went through) but he's a millionaire and will go down in history as Joost has already said, when I quit playing I'll have a few photos, a couple of vids and my memories.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: stevejrogers on February 07, 2012, 01:46:51 PM
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I would like to not only see a reunion, but also a new record with McCartney, Best & Starr (single or album) doing it old time Hamburg style! This summer is the 50th anniversary of Pete's sacking and Ringo joining the group. Let's both continue to do what we can to bring attention to this issue.

You would be quite delusional if, as I said, this is met by the mass audience and mainstream media as a anything but a money grab by Pete Best, and as phony and fake on the part of Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr.

Why don't we go all the way and have the Quarrymen join Paul on stage for some skiffle, and an album of skiffle music, along with a dose of 50's rock and roll?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 07, 2012, 03:40:58 PM
So, no sources?


No, all sources.  It there a single fact I have ever stated that you are in disagreement with?  If so state it.

I'll provide my source and you can provide yours.


Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 07, 2012, 03:46:37 PM
I actually dont care about Pete Best (am I the only one?)

For me he was their drummer until they deemed him (for whatever reason, Im not too bothered to know why) not good enough and before they started writing great songs.

I feel sorry for Pete (what he went through) but he's a millionaire and will go down in history as Joost has already said, when I quit playing I'll have a few photos, a couple of vids and my memories.

I don't feel sorry for Pete.  It all worked out well for him.  A happy marriage of 50+ years to the girl he met while singing for The Beatles, a massive retirement check from the group and the continuing ability to tour the world playing Rock & Roll.  Not bad.

I care about The Beatles.  All six of them.  I think it would be a cool closing chapter to Beatles history to have the three surviving members of the group come together for one last beer summit and maybe a final song.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Bobber on February 08, 2012, 08:54:23 AM

No, all sources.  It there a single fact I have ever stated that you are in disagreement with?  If so state it.

I'll provide my source and you can provide yours.




Well, for instance you state that Pete 'was their loyal friend'. Being around with some people for a couple of years don't make you an instant friend.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: cubanheel on February 08, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
I really don't feel any of us has a right to cast a moral judgement on 2 men most of us have only 'met' through recorded music/film, and dictate: thou shalt make amends for something ye might have done all those years ago. For all we know this has been dealt with privately , or perhaps Paul feels that the Anthology payout was enough. It's not something I feel I can say one way or the other. A bit like the illegitimate kids thing  -  should they all just come out and say these are our kids? We pay for them? Or we don't pay for them?  Should Ringo apologise to Pete for nicking his spot  -  I presume he knew Pete too as part of the jolly old Liddypool gang of musicians in Hamburg, so should he have leapt into his job without talking to Pete first? Perhaps George Martin should say something about it all? OR - and here's a biggie  - why don't we all stop speculating, second-guessing and rumourmongering and just enjoy the music? Oh hang on, that's what this forum is for??!! ooops...(hangs head in guilty shame)
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: nimrod on February 08, 2012, 09:56:52 AM
 ha2ha

great post cubanheel, I feel the same way as you.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 08, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
Well, for instance you state that Pete 'was their loyal friend'. Being around with some people for a couple of years don't make you an instant friend.

I didn't say "Pete was their loyal friend".  What I said was..

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I think Pete & Paul were friends.  Maybe not as close as Pete was to John, but you don't spend a good part of 2 years living and working with each other everyday without being friends.  I have friends that can be real jerks, assh---s & losers from time to time.  They are still my friends.

Is there anything else that I have ever stated that you disagree with?

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Bobber on February 08, 2012, 02:34:30 PM
I didn't say "Pete was their loyal friend".  What I said was..

Is there anything else that I have ever stated that you disagree with?

If you really want to go into details, you wrote: I want to see a "reunion" not because they were friends...[...]

So, stating that they were friends.

But you know, I don't care about mr Best that much really, so I would not care if you didn't reply.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Nada Surf on February 08, 2012, 04:38:32 PM
I'm not so sure Best was ever great pals with any of them...
Dot Rhone and Cynthia Lennon wrote that they noticed right away upon visiting the Beatles in Hamburg that Best was being treated as something of an outcast.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 08, 2012, 04:49:23 PM
If you really want to go into details, you wrote: I want to see a "reunion" not because they were friends...[...]

So, stating that they were friends.

But you know, I don't care about mr Best that much really, so I would not care if you didn't reply.

I am not disputing that I said they are friends.  But I am saying that if you are going to quote someone and use actual "quotes", you have to really be quoting the person.  The words in quotes should actually be the exact words the person said.  I said "I think Pete & Paul were friends" and also said "I want to see a "reunion" not because they were friends...".  However you quoted me as saying "Pete was their loyal friend".  Maybe he was a loyal friend, I don't know.  That wasn't what I actually said so you shouldn't put it in quotes.  Putting quotes around something means you are quoting what the person said word for word.  I didn't say what you quoted me as saying.

For what it's worth, I don't know if he was their loyal friend.  I do think he was a loyal bandmate who put more time playing live for them than any drummer in their history including Ringo Starr.  I don't care about Pete as much as I care about The Beatles - all 6 of them.


Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Nada Surf on February 08, 2012, 04:54:38 PM
Best...your credibility would probably be a whole lot better here if you'd quit using that "played live for the Beatles more than any other drummer" line...
As you well know, the Beatles quit playing live in 1966 and Ringo was cut off.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 08, 2012, 04:55:17 PM
Best...your credibility would probably be a whole lot better here if you'd quit using that "played live for the Beatles more than any other drummer" line...
As you well know, the Beatles quit playing live in 1966 and Ringo was cut off.

Why is it a line if it's true?

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Nada Surf on February 08, 2012, 04:56:40 PM
It's a line that doesn't carry much weight...People will remember the drummer through the glory years and that's fine...
You make it sound as though Best was with the Beatles longer than Ringo...
Hop into chat, anyway.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 08, 2012, 05:06:31 PM
It's a line that doesn't carry much weight...People will remember the drummer through the glory years and that's fine...
You make it sound as though Best was with the Beatles longer than Ringo...
Hop into chat, anyway.

I am not saying Pete was with The Beatles longer than Ringo.  I am saying he put more time playing live for The Beatles than Ringo.  You say Ringo would have played more live if he had the opportunity.   You could say the same for Pete.  He didn't quit he was forced to stop.  You say it's a line that doesn't hold much weight.  I disagee.  It's a line that carries a whole lot of weight. 

In all of history no drummer put in more time playing drums live for The Beatles than Pete Best.  Nobody!  That's not some trivial statement.  You say people will remember the drummer through their glory years.  Yeah, that part is obvious.  But it isn't the whole truth.  That's what I am fighting against.  I want the whole truth.


Gimme some truth!!!

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Nada Surf on February 08, 2012, 05:12:58 PM
I am not saying Pete was with The Beatles longer than Ringo.  I am saying he put more time playing live for The Beatles than Ringo.  You say Ringo would have played more live if he had the opportunity.   You could say the same for Pete.  He didn't quit he was forced to stop.  You say it's a line that doesn't hold much weight.  I disagee.  It's a line that carries a whole lot of weight. 

In all of history no drummer put in more time playing drums live for The Beatles than Pete Best.  Nobody!  That's not some trivial statement.  You say people will remember the drummer through their glory years.  Yeah, that part is obvious.  But it isn't the whole truth.  That's what I am fighting against.  I want the whole truth.


Gimme some truth!!!
I'ts like saying you're the third-tallest guy in Japan..the Beatles quit being a live band..Hop into the chat room on here now!
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Mairi on February 08, 2012, 06:33:53 PM
Regardless of whether Paul wants to participate, would Pete Best even want to? If he feels wronged by Paul then I would imagine that he'd just want to avoid him, rather than try for a public reconciliation.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Gary910 on February 08, 2012, 06:53:26 PM
It is true that Pete played more live gigs than Ringo. Is this meaningful? I don't know. Depends on what is meaningful to you.

Paul and Ringo do not owe Pete anything. Nor does Pete owe Paul and Ringo anything. If Paul and/or Ringo wanted to reunite that would be solely their choice, and not dependent on any other party wanting to reunite. It seems from the interviews that I have seen Pete is at peace with his past. It took him a long time and I think that is understandable. Pete has no doubt settled in his mind and heart he will never see Paul or Ringo again. Pete has moved on.

We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. We don't know if Paul and Pete, or Ringo and Pete have spoken in the last 50 years. To automatically presume one way or the other is naive. They would only release this information if all parties agreed to. Although, my opinion is that they probably have not.

Pete was duly compensated for the recordings that he made with The Beatles that have been commercially released. I don't know if he continues to receive royalties, and you probably don't know either.

I think it would be cool to see Pete and Paul sit down and talk on an interview show. As to who would interview them, I don't have any ideas, it would have to be a high caliber name to do so though. As to playing music together, I don't think there really would be much point to that. As to having Voormann, Sheridan, or anybody else, I think again, it would be pointless. They have all moved in different directions. Paul and Ringo barely have a point in playing together anymore.

When you are a musician, and there are a few members here that are, you typically want to always be moving forward with your music. So playing in a "fantasy" band is really not that much fun, and would be more of an exercise in voyeurism. It is would be similar in having Dhani Harrison and Julian Lennon and Paul and Ringo play together. You are begging for something that you can not have.

So, to sum up, again. Paul and Ringo owe Pete nothing. If any reunion would be cool would be just to see them sit down and talk and the obligatory hug.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 09, 2012, 12:02:45 AM
It is true that Pete played more live gigs than Ringo. Is this meaningful? I don't know. Depends on what is meaningful to you.

Paul and Ringo do not owe Pete anything. Nor does Pete owe Paul and Ringo anything. If Paul and/or Ringo wanted to reunite that would be solely their choice, and not dependent on any other party wanting to reunite. It seems from the interviews that I have seen Pete is at peace with his past. It took him a long time and I think that is understandable. Pete has no doubt settled in his mind and heart he will never see Paul or Ringo again. Pete has moved on.

We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. We don't know if Paul and Pete, or Ringo and Pete have spoken in the last 50 years. To automatically presume one way or the other is naive. They would only release this information if all parties agreed to. Although, my opinion is that they probably have not.

Pete was duly compensated for the recordings that he made with The Beatles that have been commercially released. I don't know if he continues to receive royalties, and you probably don't know either.

I think it would be cool to see Pete and Paul sit down and talk on an interview show. As to who would interview them, I don't have any ideas, it would have to be a high caliber name to do so though. As to playing music together, I don't think there really would be much point to that. As to having Voormann, Sheridan, or anybody else, I think again, it would be pointless. They have all moved in different directions. Paul and Ringo barely have a point in playing together anymore.

When you are a musician, and there are a few members here that are, you typically want to always be moving forward with your music. So playing in a "fantasy" band is really not that much fun, and would be more of an exercise in voyeurism. It is would be similar in having Dhani Harrison and Julian Lennon and Paul and Ringo play together. You are begging for something that you can not have.

So, to sum up, again. Paul and Ringo owe Pete nothing. If any reunion would be cool would be just to see them sit down and talk and the obligatory hug.

I never said Paul or Ringo owe Pete anything.  I agree that a get together, whether it's a press conference, a beer summit or better yet - a new song would be a lot of fun.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Mairi on February 09, 2012, 01:03:12 AM
Fun for whom?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: nimrod on February 09, 2012, 01:09:47 AM
Fun for whom?

Pete's bank manager ?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: tkitna on February 09, 2012, 02:29:38 AM
In all of history no drummer put in more time playing drums live for The Beatles than Pete Best.  Nobody!  That's not some trivial statement.  You say people will remember the drummer through their glory years.  Yeah, that part is obvious.  But it isn't the whole truth.  That's what I am fighting against.  I want the whole truth.

What are you looking for? What truth are you trying to find? Everybody is aware that Pete played with the Beatles the most when they played live, but what does that matter? I just dont know what you want. Are you looking for assurance that every Beatle fan knows that Pete was their drummer during their early years? I've just lost the meaning of what it is your trying to say or do anymore.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: tkitna on February 09, 2012, 02:32:15 AM
Fun for whom?

BeatlesAtTheirBest and thats about it.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 09, 2012, 11:52:56 AM
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Fun for whom?
BeatlesAtTheirBest and thats about it.

Well it must be fun for you.  You sure do take a lot of time reading Pete Best & The Beatles related comments and posting replys to them.  Lets face it, if Paul and/or Ringo got together to do something with Pete, you'd be among the first to check it out and also among the first to comment about it.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: stevejrogers on February 09, 2012, 05:13:15 PM
Well it must be fun for you.  You sure do take a lot of time reading Pete Best & The Beatles related comments and posting replys to them.  Lets face it, if Paul and/or Ringo got together to do something with Pete, you'd be among the first to check it out and also among the first to comment about it.

And I'm sure he'd be echoing the majority opinion that it would come off as fake and phony on the part of Paul and/or Ringo, as well as a cash and spotlight grab for Pete Best.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Gary910 on February 09, 2012, 10:29:36 PM
I never said Paul or Ringo owe Pete anything.  I agree that a get together, whether it's a press conference, a beer summit or better yet - a new song would be a lot of fun.

I know you didn't say that anyone owes anyone anything. The point I was making was, the way you worded the original subject line was that this is a must do before one of them dies. You are assuming one of them should want to meet.

I don't know how long you have lived. So I won't assume you have or have not experienced what I am about to describe. When a person gets older. There are parts of their life that are truly behind them. They have completely lived that experience and they have no desire to dig up any of it. The memory is at peace where it is. If you are young, it is unlikely that you have experienced this very much. If you are older, I would think that this description would resonate with you. The past is the past. Life moves on. Maybe Paul and Pete have moved on too.

By the post I wrote yesterday I indulged your fantasy.

A Press Conference??? Press Conferences are usually to announce something. What would they announce?

Beer Summit? Here let's draw as much attention to ourselves as we can. They might as well pull their pants down and show their weiners to the world. "Look at me!"

New Song, who would write it? If Paul wrote it, then that could be kind of patronizing to Pete.
Paul: "Come on Pete, you can play drums on my song."

Pete: "Go sod yourself! I don't want your sympathy."

If Pete wrote it, it would have to be really good. Then it would be such a novelty, it would be hard to take it serious.

This is why I said, just an interview. An interview on their memories of playing in Hamburg and the Cavern. No questions as to why Pete was fired.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: tkitna on February 10, 2012, 12:48:47 AM
And I'm sure he'd be echoing the majority opinion that it would come off as fake and phony on the part of Paul and/or Ringo, as well as a cash and spotlight grab for Pete Best.

This
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 12, 2012, 12:49:15 PM
I know you didn't say that anyone owes anyone anything. The point I was making was, the way you worded the original subject line was that this is a must do before one of them dies. You are assuming one of them should want to meet.

I don't know how long you have lived. So I won't assume you have or have not experienced what I am about to describe. When a person gets older. There are parts of their life that are truly behind them. They have completely lived that experience and they have no desire to dig up any of it. The memory is at peace where it is. If you are young, it is unlikely that you have experienced this very much. If you are older, I would think that this description would resonate with you. The past is the past. Life moves on. Maybe Paul and Pete have moved on too.

By the post I wrote yesterday I indulged your fantasy.

A Press Conference??? Press Conferences are usually to announce something. What would they announce?

Beer Summit? Here let's draw as much attention to ourselves as we can. They might as well pull their pants down and show their weiners to the world. "Look at me!"

New Song, who would write it? If Paul wrote it, then that could be kind of patronizing to Pete.
Paul: "Come on Pete, you can play drums on my song."

Pete: "Go sod yourself! I don't want your sympathy."

If Pete wrote it, it would have to be really good. Then it would be such a novelty, it would be hard to take it serious.

This is why I said, just an interview. An interview on their memories of playing in Hamburg and the Cavern. No questions as to why Pete was fired.


Having Pete play drums on a song Paul wrote would be patronizing to Pete?  Isn't that what he was doing when they sacked him?

As for a "beer summit" or some other type of reunion, who said "cash" had to be involved?  (I'll pay the beer tab if that's an issue)

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Gary910 on February 12, 2012, 05:38:59 PM

Having Pete play drums on a song Paul wrote would be patronizing to Pete?  Isn't that what he was doing when they sacked him?


No. Pete was in a band with Paul. That is the past.

Are you here to promote your film, or something else?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 12, 2012, 09:06:51 PM
No. Pete was in a band with Paul. That is the past.

Are you here to promote your film, or something else?

I am here to talk about The Beatles.  Emphasis on the period between 1960-1962, the time John Lennon said that they were at they were at their best.  As for the Pete Best version of The Beatles being in the past, so is the Ringo Starr version of The Beatles.  Are we not allowed to talk about that either?

I could ask you the same question.  I am here to talk about The Beatles, why are you here?

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Jema on February 13, 2012, 01:41:36 PM
I honestly don't expect that to ever happen,what I really want to see is a drum off between Ringo and Pete  ha2ha
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Klang on February 13, 2012, 04:43:01 PM

A septuagenarian drum-off. Woo-hoo!

 :P

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Gary910 on February 13, 2012, 08:52:50 PM

I could ask you the same question.  I am here to talk about The Beatles, why are you here?

You are right you can ask me that question. I think my posts speak for themselves.

I hope you are here to talk about the Beatles. Your posts bring doubts on what you are here for.

Let's just make it about the Beatles and not just about Pete Best. Don't get me wrong, I am all for talking about Pete, as he is part of the story. There is so much more too though. You are completely welcome to talk about what interests you, but if you see other members don't share your enthusiasm, we are not here to force our opinions on others.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Casbah on February 20, 2012, 10:24:14 AM
Paul won't get together with Ringo for a performance or recording. What makes anyone think he's going to do it with Pete?
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 21, 2012, 03:31:59 AM
Paul won't get together with Ringo for a performance or recording. What makes anyone think he's going to do it with Pete?

How many times has he got together with Ringo over the years?  That's a bit played out isn't it?  When's the last time he got together with Pete?

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: cubanheel on February 22, 2012, 09:25:30 PM
Haven't been on this site in a while, and I notice you're still banging on about the ol' Pete thingy. GOOD GRIEF, give it a rest!! (said most respectfully to all concerned...)
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Gary910 on February 22, 2012, 09:48:35 PM
I happened across a film that I already own about Pete Best. Your subject matter has already been covered. Oh, I know, you have some incredible facts that are totally unknown.

Dream on. Go ahead spend your time, making your film. You are using footage that has been out for years. Go for it. See how many people are interested.

As I have said, you are correct Pete is part of the story. If I can speak for others, you are putting too much emphasis on his part though.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 23, 2012, 03:02:15 AM
You are right you can ask me that question. I think my posts speak for themselves.

I hope you are here to talk about the Beatles. Your posts bring doubts on what you are here for.

Let's just make it about the Beatles and not just about Pete Best. Don't get me wrong, I am all for talking about Pete, as he is part of the story. There is so much more too though. You are completely welcome to talk about what interests you, but if you see other members don't share your enthusiasm, we are not here to force our opinions on others.

Nobody is forcing any opinion on you.  You made a choice to read my posts and you made a choice to respond.  If you don't like what I have to say regarding the early years of The Beatles, stop reading the posts and stop responding.  If it's making you unhappy, go find something else to do with your time.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 23, 2012, 03:05:17 AM
I happened across a film that I already own about Pete Best. Your subject matter has already been covered. Oh, I know, you have some incredible facts that are totally unknown.

Dream on. Go ahead spend your time, making your film. You are using footage that has been out for years. Go for it. See how many people are interested.

As I have said, you are correct Pete is part of the story. If I can speak for others, you are putting too much emphasis on his part though.

I am not dreaming.  I have spent some of my time and I have made my film.  You keep putting me down.  You say you don't speak for others, yet you keep attempting to speak for others.  Like I said before, if the subject of Pete Best or the early years of The Beatles doesn't interest you, stop responding.  No one has put a gun to your head.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Gary910 on February 23, 2012, 06:22:17 AM
Boy, some people get their panties in a knot easily...
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 23, 2012, 03:04:49 PM
Boy, some people get their panties in a knot easily...

I know.  You should work on that Gary.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Gary910 on February 23, 2012, 05:27:21 PM
You got balls...

Insulting a Mod...

Keep it up... You just have so much credibility here now.

You know I have supported you talking about Pete Best. You turn around and insult me. You are truly alienating yourself here.

Throw another insult at me, please... You have such an attitude. I am sure it is helping you win friends in life and I am sure you are getting everything you want, because I am sure people just love you so much.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 23, 2012, 08:30:13 PM
You got balls...

Insulting a Mod...

Keep it up... You just have so much credibility here now.

You know I have supported you talking about Pete Best. You turn around and insult me. You are truly alienating yourself here.

Throw another insult at me, please... You have such an attitude. I am sure it is helping you win friends in life and I am sure you are getting everything you want, because I am sure people just love you so much.


It sounded like you were the one insulting me.

Quote
Boy, some people get their panties in a knot easily...

All I said was you should work on that.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Gary910 on February 23, 2012, 08:34:38 PM
I am here to talk about The Beatles.  Emphasis on the period between 1960-1962, the time John Lennon said that they were at they were at their best.  As for the Pete Best version of The Beatles being in the past, so is the Ringo Starr version of The Beatles.  Are we not allowed to talk about that either?


Sure doesn't seem like it....

I won't ban you, but you are not welcome here any longer. You have worn your welcome out.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 23, 2012, 08:43:47 PM
Sure doesn't seem like it....

I won't ban you, but you are not welcome here any longer. You have worn your welcome out.

I am not sure that my opinions (and facts) about The Beatles were ever welcomed here as they seem to clash with the opinions of the forums management.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Gary910 on February 23, 2012, 09:01:58 PM
As the last, most famous, and most recorded Beatles drummer would say, "Peace And Love"
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 23, 2012, 09:46:06 PM
As the last, most famous, and most recorded Beatles drummer would say, "Peace And Love"


I agree Gary.  Peace & Love.  Things people say often seem worse when they are in writing.   :)
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Klang on February 24, 2012, 08:26:14 AM

Mods. Rockers. Plenty of room for us all.

Guess you could call me a mocker.

 :P

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 24, 2012, 02:49:42 PM
I am a mocker - Ringo Starr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-XxZtyM6Qk#)
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Klang on February 24, 2012, 06:20:08 PM

Didn't Pete say that first?

 :P

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 24, 2012, 06:44:19 PM
Didn't Pete say that first?

 :P


I think Pete prided himself on being a rocker all the way.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Casbah on February 27, 2012, 01:32:46 AM
Why don't we go all the way and have the Quarrymen join Paul on stage for some skiffle, and an album of skiffle music, along with a dose of 50's rock and roll?


That would be awesome, actually  ;D
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: BeatlesAtTheirBest on February 27, 2012, 04:35:19 AM

That would be awesome, actually  ;D


Yeah.  What he said.

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Dr.Winston on February 28, 2012, 04:30:44 PM
Well, I can't see any reason why they should meet up or play together but I'd love to see it happen if they wanted to do it. They must have shared a lot of experiences together and I think that most people, if they'd shared such experiences would be happy to share some time together and indulge in a bit of nostalgia later in their lives. Assuminjg that it won't happen; then I'd think more of them both if they could face a meeting but didn't want to rather than it being something that either of them just couldn't face doing for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: 7 of 13 on February 28, 2012, 07:15:25 PM

I think Pete prided himself on being a rocker all the way.
to be in the top skiffle band in liverpool and to be one of them beatles, yeah i would say that's true. small potatoes my friend.
 ;yes
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Casbah on February 29, 2012, 01:42:41 AM
You know, this thing with Pete, I think it just comes down to, he was a boring guy. We've seen the interviews and read the stories and of course the STORY is interesting to us, but he is so deadpan and unexciting. Compare him to any of the other guys, even the guys who WEREN'T in the band (except Mal) and he just wasn't a character. John and Paul knew they needed a character to make things work. They had great vision. Ringo was that guy. Ringo was also a better player. But besides that, they just didn't mesh with Pete.

I think it would be a real TRAVESTY if Paul played a set with Pete because he hasn't played a set with Ringo since 1969. He has turned down every opportunity that has come up to play with Ringo. I'm not talking the few songs at Concert for George or Anthology or his recent birthday. Those don't count. An actual, sit down, hour long jam out/concert has not happened and we all know Ringo is chomping at the bit for it to go down, not to mention all us Beatles fans. Ringo has consistently invited him to his all-star jams and Paul declines. So he won't even do THAT.

Furthermore, John saying the early years were the Beatles at their best was most likely his reaction to the hatred of the shaping and molding of his Beatles persona. The  Hamburg Beatles could do whatever they wanted, play what they wanted, wear, eat, drink and f*** anything they wanted. John was still essentially in charge and all these things catered to, and stroked, his ego and rebellious nature. Of course he'd look back at all this fondly. But it was happening DESPITE Pete Best. Pete was just ...there.




Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: stevejrogers on February 29, 2012, 02:36:18 AM
*facepalm*
This is the thread that doesn't end...
yes it'll go on and on my friend...

 ;D
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: Klang on February 29, 2012, 03:25:31 AM
*facepalm*
This is the thread that doesn't end...
yes it'll go on and on my friend...

Curious, isn't it? Reminds me of television. Boring and banal, but we still switch it on. Can't take our eyes off, in fact. Or can we?

 :D

Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: tkitna on February 29, 2012, 04:09:45 AM
I think it would be a real TRAVESTY if Paul played a set with Pete because he hasn't played a set with Ringo since 1969. He has turned down every opportunity that has come up to play with Ringo. I'm not talking the few songs at Concert for George or Anthology or his recent birthday. Those don't count. An actual, sit down, hour long jam out/concert has not happened and we all know Ringo is chomping at the bit for it to go down, not to mention all us Beatles fans. Ringo has consistently invited him to his all-star jams and Paul declines. So he won't even do THAT.

They do get together and play on each others albums though, so that has to count for something. As for them getting together to jam or doing a concert, whats the point? John and George arent there so its kind of an empty deal if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: stevejrogers on February 29, 2012, 05:15:07 AM
Curious, isn't it? Reminds me of television. Boring and banal, but we still switch it on. Can't take our eyes off, in fact. Or can we?

 :D

Heh, it would be fine if people just STOPPED POSTING IN IT!

Oh wait... D'OH!
Title: Re: Paul should meet/play with Pete Best before they die!
Post by: 7 of 13 on February 29, 2012, 07:50:37 PM
*facepalm*
This is the thread that doesn't end...
yes it'll go on and on my friend...

 ;D
let's get our boots on, people.
 ;yes
They do get together and play on each others albums though, so that has to count for something. As for them getting together to jam or doing a concert, whats the point? John and George arent there so its kind of an empty deal if you know what I mean.
how can you or anyone be so sure of that tkitna, like that would be my FIRST impression too.