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Title: painting a guitar..
Post by: on January 27, 2005, 01:33:59 AM
i want to paint an old guitar i have, but i'm not sure what to use? What kind of paint should i use for it? And do I have to sand it all off before doing anything on it?
any help would be appreciated...
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 27, 2005, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: lennon-legend
i want to paint an old guitar i have, but i'm not sure what to use? And do I have to sand it all off before doing anything on it?
any help would be appreciated...

well what sort of a guitar is it m8 ? acoustic or electric ? if electric then you will have to sand it down to the wood, thats if you want a nice finish on it .. if not, just sand of the lacker then repaint it .. well i would probably spray the guitar instead of painting it .. but no matter what you do .. you gonna have to sand the lacker off, or the paint or spray wont stick .. if you know what i mean.. its just like glossing a door .. u need a rough surface for the paint to stick..
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on January 27, 2005, 02:19:08 PM
Quote from: lennon-legend
i want to paint an old <a
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: on January 27, 2005, 03:59:58 PM
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well what sort of a guitar is it m8 ? acoustic or electric ? if electric then you will have to sand it down to the wood, thats if you want a nice finish on it .. if not, just sand of the lacker then repaint it .. well i would probably spray the guitar instead of painting it .. but no matter what you do .. you gonna have to sand the lacker off, or the paint or spray wont stick .. if you know what i mean.. its just like glossing a door .. u need a rough surface for the paint to stick..

yeah its electric, and yeah by saying painting i meant spraying it...its the same for me...i would never try and paint a guitar by hand...its like painting a car by hand, it has no sense... :)

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Hold up! before your refinish the guitar what kind of guitar is it , who's it made by, and what model is it? You could be about to make a great error. Some guitars are worth a lot of money ie....old Gibsons,Martins,and ...

haha don't worry mate... i'd never try to repaint a precious guitar :)...it's a hybrid brand (aka cheap copy)...

thanks alot for your help guys!!!

another question...what kind of paint and finishing lacker do i use for it?
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 27, 2005, 04:33:34 PM
not really sure whay sort of paint ..maybe car spray and do it a few times.. definately not sure about the lacker .. if nobody knows what lacker to use then ill ask someone who will know .. ( guy at the local music shop ) im pretty sure he will know wot to do with it ..
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Indica on January 27, 2005, 05:03:25 PM
I would really want to paint my Fender in Psychedelic colours, but it would cost a fortune to get it down by a pro.
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: on January 27, 2005, 05:20:44 PM
Quote from: IndicaWalrus
I would really want to paint my Fender in Psychedelic colours, but it would cost a fortune to get it down by a pro.

here are the magic words... do it yourself!
 :)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 27, 2005, 05:51:51 PM
yeah give it a go indica.. then you can post a pic on here ..
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: An Apple Beatle on January 27, 2005, 05:52:33 PM
Yeah, that would be good...Would like to see your handywork. ;)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 27, 2005, 05:58:25 PM
talking of guitars ill get Apps to take a pic of my Lennon 325 .. and ill post it up :)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: An Apple Beatle on January 27, 2005, 05:58:41 PM
Might do!!!! lol
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 27, 2005, 06:02:15 PM
lol you will DO hehe
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: An Apple Beatle on January 27, 2005, 06:02:49 PM
Stop hoggin!!! lol
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on January 27, 2005, 06:04:06 PM
Ok then. As long as it is solid wood you can use a good grade paint stripper and this will remove any fininish there leaving the body ready for final sandining and primer or sealer coats, if there is any plastic binding on the body DO NOT GET ANY STIPPER ON IT OR IT WILL MELT, binding has to be sanded. Then you can use any spray paint you want laquer or poly its up to you, but dont mix the two. Stick with either laquer or polyurethane
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on January 27, 2005, 06:06:23 PM
Quote from: Mr_Kite
talking of guitars ill get Apps to take a pic of my Lennon 325 .. and ill post it up :)

You got a Rickenbacker 325 also? SWEET! mine is my favorite! Its also how I came up with my id. DUH.
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 27, 2005, 06:07:32 PM
nice one ric thats a great piece of info there m8 .. ill bare that in mind as well if i ever decide to strip a guitar :)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: on January 27, 2005, 06:10:31 PM
Quote from: RICKENBACKER325
Ok then. As long as the body is solid <a
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on January 27, 2005, 06:33:49 PM
Really guys I hope I helped. By the way Lenny you can use the same methods even if you choose to sand instead of strip the guitar. It just takes longer and since I'm totally friggin lazy I like the stripping method. I have had several refins come to the shop and the owners always b!tch at the price I quote, but they are always happy when the see the final product. The only real thing I hate working on are guitars with locking Floyd Rose Tremeloes, They SUCK! :D
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 27, 2005, 06:49:29 PM
yeah i know the trems your talking about .. you get them on the more Rock looking guitars... Im not really into the trems.. but if any.. the bigsy's are quite nice .. i wouldnt mind one on my guitar, just for looks more than anything.. but ive heard they go out a of tune alot especially on the 3/4 scale neck ..well come to think of it .. i had one once on a epiphone riviera .. but i didnt have the guitar long as it was a pain in the arse trying re-string it half way through a gig ...so a changed it for a Casino ..
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Indica on January 27, 2005, 07:20:29 PM
How much does it normally cost Rick, for a profesional job?
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: An Apple Beatle on January 28, 2005, 02:40:53 PM
I could'nt say...I could find out if need be.
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on January 28, 2005, 08:18:58 PM
Quote from: IndicaWalrus
How much does it normally cost Rick, for a profesional job?

A good refinish job will start at about $350.00 us and go up from there, depending on the job and how much work is involved. This does not mean spot finishing or touch ups, these are alot cheaper and based on the job, this cost is for a total refin. The challenge being, is the guitar worth the cost of refining or if it is a vintage collectible do you want to ruin the value. Most of the time it is a personal choice  made by the guitar owner and his wallet. :)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on January 28, 2005, 08:21:55 PM
Lenny, I love the Bigsby trems, but your right they will go out of tune easily. They are also the coolest looking trems on the market. I have one on my Ric 325 and I love it on the short scale. :)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 28, 2005, 09:13:40 PM
ahhh you have one on a 325 3/4 scale ? ... nice .. and you dont have any problems with it ? .. hmmmm i may have to invest then .. i was told that the bigsby and the 3/4 scale dont get on lol .. but saying that Lennon had a Rickenbacker 325 ( wood finish ) early hamburg guitar .. i saw a bigsby on Ebay and was gonna get it... i wish i bought it now lol .. oh well
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on January 29, 2005, 12:33:07 AM
Yeah my short scale and Bigsby get along fine. If you are going to buy off ebay make sure your getting the right model. Its the flat bottomed horseshoe shaped Bigsby, model E-5 I think. I'll  check this weekend a make sure though' they are great if your playing rythm and dont hammer your guitar when you strum or pick. I have the 325 V-58 Hamburg (natural finish) with the Bigsby and a Gretch Tennesseean with a Bigsby along with a later model 325 Miami(black finish)that I reto fittited a Bigsby and gold pickguard  and round aluminum knobs to look like John's 325 after he had his first one(natural finish) painted black. It turned out too cool and is still my favorite axe.




Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 29, 2005, 03:59:50 PM
yeah the one i was looking at was the horseshoe shaped Bigsby...i think one of the other reasons i didnt get it.. was because i wasnt sure how easy they were to fit .. and if i got a pro to do it . it would probably cost a bit ...
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on January 29, 2005, 05:27:27 PM
Probably about $45.00 to $100.00 us. I get about $60.00 plus strings cost to change them out from the standard "R" tail piece or the Rickenbacker ice pick style vibrato to the Bigsby. So, its not really that expensive here, but I dont know what a qualified tech there would charge. Its not really that hard to do yourself. just drilling a couple of holes. The trick is to make sure the strings and Bigsby tail piece are lined up correctly. If you get the correct Bigsby its made to fit directly on your Ric. without modifications being made to the guitar. 8)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 29, 2005, 05:39:17 PM
your twisting my arm with every post you make about the trem hehehe, more than likely i shall get one :)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on January 29, 2005, 05:45:18 PM
Ok then, here are the models for your guitar. Bigsby B-5 or the B-50 they are the same model just made of diffrent alloys. Good luck let me know what you do :).
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 29, 2005, 05:49:40 PM
ok m8 i will do .. the one i have been looking at is the B-5 i think ... it would look great on my guitar as well lol ... :)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: An Apple Beatle on November 14, 2005, 06:23:48 PM
I thought I'd revive this thread...Miss Riccy's advice! lol

I bought a real old Encore Coaster Strat off Ebay a while back and have finally managed to string her up with a bodged enforced nut, a spring, some t.l.c and she has luckily plugged in a beauty.

Cost me 30 quid (15 was postage). I'm quite pleased with myself. My first electric guitar! lol
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: An Apple Beatle on November 15, 2005, 05:45:25 PM
Thinking about sanding that body down!!! lol
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Indica on November 20, 2005, 12:10:43 PM
my dream painted guitar :)

(http://dmbeatles.com/pictures/0879.jpg)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: An Apple Beatle on November 20, 2005, 06:22:28 PM
Nice dream. ;)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Mairi on November 22, 2005, 06:16:03 PM
Indica, dude, I hate to break it to you, but your dream guitar is actually a bass.
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Indica on November 22, 2005, 08:08:00 PM
haha

and so the bass and guitar war starts ...

:)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: raxo on November 22, 2005, 10:17:06 PM
Fair play, please. Specially between you two.
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: An Apple Beatle on December 01, 2005, 03:08:35 PM
Play both!!!! lol
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: raxo on December 01, 2005, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
Play both!!!! lol
YEAH! :D

Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Mairi on December 04, 2005, 02:36:39 AM
I just finished painting Dylan on my guitar case. Not trying to brag or anything, but I think it looks super cool. If my mom lets me use her digital camera from work, I'll post a pic for you guys.
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: An Apple Beatle on December 04, 2005, 03:19:15 AM
Feelin that Mairi....Nice one...lookin forward to the pics. Star in the making I reckon...watch out Joanie Baez!  ;)

I'm genuinely impressed by your apparant early awareness.....Good on ya.
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Mairi on December 04, 2005, 08:41:15 PM
Here are the pics! Sorry for the glare. That's my cat Emmy in the first one, BTW.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/hermionestarchild/DSCF0062.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/hermionestarchild/DSCF0063.jpg)
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: raxo on December 04, 2005, 08:59:12 PM
Wow,... really cool,... and does he sing? ;D
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: Mairi on December 04, 2005, 09:02:35 PM
Unfortunately not. I just thought it would be cool to paint him on the case since my guitar is actually named after him. The other one is named Joan, but she's in a cloth vinyl case so that would be hard to paint.
Title: Re: painting a guitar..
Post by: raxo on December 04, 2005, 09:29:11 PM
So you've got a Joan and a Bob,... uhmm... what's your favourite one? Have you noticed that one of them has a male name?  :P
Mine is called (by me) Lila (a pun between Leela name and lilac colour)