Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band

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tkitna

The album never flowed properly for me no matter what drug of choice I was on. 'When I'm 64' kills the album in my opinion. I love 'She's Leaving Home', but its missplaced also. Georges indian bullshit and me never got along either.  

JimmyMcCullochFan

For my 60's class, I'm doing my presentation on SPLHCB.  :)

Living One

Quote from: 373The album never flowed properly for me no matter what drug of choice I was on. 'When I'm 64' kills the album in my opinion. I love 'She's Leaving Home', but its missplaced also. Georges indian bullshit and me never got along either.  

Does my interpretation (Original Post) make any sense to you?
I think 'When I'm 64,' along with 'Lovely Rita,' marks the beginning of a positive mindset after the trip.
Leaving home is leaving a false, comfortable reality for truth.
'Within you without you' is the reflection period.

Quote from: 682For my 60's class, I'm doing my presentation on SPLHCB.  

Cool!  Are you presenting an interpretation?  If not, what are you going to talk about during your presentation?  I am very curious.  =)

...and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

Embrace Oneness

The Swine

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youre welcome. do you want me to go through every album?

jethro you are ignoring my questions again. really its all about sex and no higher spirit is involved. all my loving? now whats that supposed to be? do you want to know a secret? theres a place? twist and shout? please please me? hold me tight? babys in black?
THE INTERNET IS NOT A PLACE FOR 13 YEAR OLDS

Kevin

Quote from: 373The album never flowed properly for me no matter what drug of choice I was on.

I know what you mean. Then I listen to Revolver and that's as much if not more eclectic, yet the sequence doesn't seem to jar as much as Pepper.
I can't make my mind up about Pepper. Song for song it's weak, sort of Revolver The Dissapointing Sequel in fancy dress. Yet there is something  satisfying about listening to it. (and back down Jethro - nothing mystical going on here.). If I put it on I feel guilty skipping tracks (I abhor Good Morning Good Morning) or taking it off early. It's sort of sacrilege not to see it through. But that probably says more about me than Pepper and these religious mertaphors are disturbing me. Damn you Mr Tull.
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BlueMeanie

^ That pretty much sums it up for me as well. I never pick the odd song from it, always play it through. I'm also with you on Good Morning, Good Morning. Same goes for When I'm 64 too (never could stand McCartney's whimsical stuff). But as a whole it works, and I wouldn't change anything about it. I also think the inclusion of Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane would have ruined the effect. They would have just blown the rest of the album out the window, and shown some of the other songs up.

Kevin

I must add that my enjoyment of Pepper has been much enhanced by listening to it on mono vinyl (the way God and The Beatles -assuming there is a difference - intended it). So much denser and richer, not that weedy CD sound.
And I've said it before but I'll say it again - Beatle albums were constructed to be listened to in two (or four) parts. WYWY (I think) makes more much sense as the opener to side two, rather than an indian song stuck in the middle of a continuious stream of music.
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BlueMeanie

Quote from: 185I must add that my enjoyment of Pepper has been much enhanced by listening to it on mono vinyl (the way God and The Beatles -assuming there is a difference - intended it). So much denser and richer, not that weedy CD sound.
And I've said it before but I'll say it again - Beatle albums were constructed to be listened to in two (or four) parts. WYWY (I think) makes more much sense as the opener to side two, rather than an indian song stuck in the middle of a continuious stream of music.

This is a problem with many CD's that were originally sequenced for vinyl. A re-jigging of the running order is needed on some of them.

alexis

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I know what you mean. Then I listen to Revolver and that's as much if not more eclectic, yet the sequence doesn't seem to jar as much as Pepper.
I can't make my mind up about Pepper. Song for song it's weak, sort of Revolver The Dissapointing Sequel in fancy dress. Yet there is something  satisfying about listening to it. (and back down Jethro - nothing mystical going on here.). If I put it on I feel guilty skipping tracks (I abhor Good Morning Good Morning) or taking it off early. It's sort of sacrilege not to see it through. But that probably says more about me than Pepper and these religious mertaphors are disturbing me. Damn you Mr Tull.

I've always liked "Good Morning, Good Morning", for it's piercing guitar licks, and jarring tempo changes. And, I'm shallow enough and easily enough amused that I liked the animal sequences at the end, especially how the ducks morphed into George's two note intro into Reprise.

Then more recently, after John died, that line "Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in" has stuck out in my mind (not quite haunted me), as it's pretty much what Emergency Department docs say when they pronounce someone deceased, like after a shooting. Between that, Happiness is a Warm Gun, and the repeated "Shoot Me" line in Come Together, it's clear John had a premonition at some level about what was going to happen. At least that's what my Tarot Card reader gypsy lady tells me (Cliff Richard or Cher, anybody?)  ;)
I love John,
I love Paul,
And George and Ringo,
I love them all!

Alexis

BlueMeanie

Quote from: 568it's clear John had a premonition at some level about what was going to happen. At least that's what my Tarot Card reader gypsy lady tells me (Cliff Richard or Cher, anybody?)  ;)

Oh no, you'll get Jethro going now! ;D

How come you haven't started a thread about Jethro Tull then Jethro? Or is it industrial farm machinery you're interested in?

Living One

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jethro you are ignoring my questions again.

Sorry >.< but none of your questions seem relevant to this thread.

QuoteBut that probably says more about me than Pepper and these religious mertaphors are disturbing me. Damn you Mr Tull.

Haha.  I haven't said anything related to religion.  Although I must admit, I have had some mystical experiences with this album.  Maybe I'll share them in a few posts.

It's not about some ridiculous far fetched mystical interpretation, it's just what the lyrics say, and the feeling of the songs.  I think the album flows perfectly, especially starting with "She's Leaving Home."  I think the entire album could be compared to a psychedelic trip.  I won't repeat what I said in the Original Post, but I think 'She's Leaving Home' marks when the tripper, "leaves home," or leaves a false, material reality given by the parents and their instruction.  The tripper leaves the comfort of the false reality, and is free, because that reality was just an illusion.  Leaving reality for the truth.

Then, Mr. Kite, just the carnival feeling, it's like the peak of the trip, and the peak of the album.  Through freedom of mind (thanks to the drugs), the tripper sees things as they are, and is confused at first and can't quite integrate anything.

Within You Without You has the truest lyrics I have ever seen.  Just think about what they are saying related to our current situation.  This song is the reflection period of the trip, when the tripper integrates everything learned from the trip into life.  In doing this, they find peace of mind.

Then the album lightens up, and everyday activities become new again, instead of a boring part of a false reality.  Everything is just wonderful and happy.  "Who could ask for more?"  The tripper realizes that everyday life is always new and entertaining, and starts to have fun.

Good morning is just like waking up anew everyday, no more false reality, just joy.  No agenda.  Just life.

For me, it's not even possible to skip a song, because everything is in the perfect order.

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Oh no, you'll get Jethro going now!

How come you haven't started a thread about Jethro Tull then Jethro? Or is it industrial farm machinery you're interested in?

;D

Maybe I am actually Ian Anderson?
...and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

Embrace Oneness

Jane

It`s not my favourite album, but it`s amazing how the band transformed and blew the world`s mind with it making everybody wonder at their creativity and innovativeness.

I don`t intend to support JT but there were some people who called The Beatles "divine messiahs, the wisest, holiest most effective avatars" after the album had been released.

Living One

Quote from: 1393It`s not my favourite album, but it`s amazing how the band transformed and blew the world`s mind with it making everybody wonder at their creativity and innovativeness.

Aye, Jane.  It is quite spectacular and awe-inspiring how one group changed so much over the course of about ten years.  Anybody who has ever been in a band knows what they did is near impossible.  They tried so many things, and they were all mind-blowing and innovative.

Quote from: 1393I don`t intend to support JT but there were some people who called The Beatles "divine messiahs, the wisest, holiest most effective avatars" after the album had been released.

And I don't expect you to support me; I just want to share things for you to check for yourself.   :)
I personally don't think it's just a coincidence that people said those sorts of things, as you already know.
The Beatles were the undisputed biggest, best, and most loved for a reason.

As far as this album, I'll repeat what I said in the original post:

"It seems as though people connect with this album so well, because they are subconsciously and consciously always thinking about life/death, aging, their youth, etc. .. so Beatles music in general strikes a chord with many, because it talks about such fundamental concerns, worries, musings, etc."

I think this album perfectly takes us through a psychedelic trip, including the pre-trip (false reality), trip (revealing), and post-trip (reflection).
Psychedelic trips have a lot in common with birth, death, aging, youth, etc.
I won't go into detail out of respect for those of you who have endured such journeys.

...and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

Embrace Oneness

Kevin

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I think this album perfectly takes us through a psychedelic trip, including the pre-trip (false reality), trip (revealing), and post-trip (reflection).
Psychedelic trips have a lot in common with birth, death, aging, youth, etc.
I won't go into detail out of respect for those of you who have endured such journeys.


I have to ask, but I take it you are able to make this analysis because you have experienced LSD yourself?
Because your romantic notions sure as hell don't tie in with any of my experiences. False reality, revealing and reflection? How about babbling like an idiot, talking shit, probably followed by a good vomit about 6.00am. Very mystic.
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glass onion

he he he he......good quote kevin,very nicely put.
......."but tonight,i just wanna stay in,and be with you"..............