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Title: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: dylanjohn on July 24, 2012, 06:00:12 PM
We've all seen the Hey Bulldog clip before.  I have a few questions, and thoughts about that shoot.

I've never thought of this, but where is the rest of that footage?  That clip was edited together from what looks like
lots of footage/shots of that session.  Has anyone found more, can confirm that is what destroyed, or thought of this before?

Also, have recently been into Abbey Road Studio 2, on that tour in the spring I was wondering...
That session was completely recorded there?  A few shots, especially those looking up, look like another studio. 
Maybe 3?  I don't think so, but it would be great if someone could confirm.  Becaues of the lighting it's hard to tell.

Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on July 24, 2012, 07:41:27 PM
Not sure mate. I think I read in a book that the recording taking place during the filming is actually of Lady Madonna, but don't hold me to that.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Gary910 on July 25, 2012, 02:46:53 AM
Not sure mate. I think I read in a book that the recording taking place during the filming is actually of Lady Madonna, but don't hold me to that.

You are correct. It is Lady Madonna footage.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Bobber on July 25, 2012, 08:44:48 AM
They were filmed while they were recording Lady Madonna. This footage was used to put under Hey Bulldog, so that's why the synchronity is not working at all.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Ken Wood on July 25, 2012, 09:41:16 AM
Oh wait - wasn`t it the other way around? This the story from the top of my head:
The Beatles were due to mime for a promo clip to go with their Lady Madonna release.
Once in the studio they figured it would be more fun to record a completly new song: Hey Bulldog.
So they were filmed doing this and afterwards the footage was edited to go along Lady Madonna.
Decades later Apple re-released this footage, this time re-edited and synched to the actual song seen recorded: Hey Bulldog.
And no, I don`t think this comes from more than one occassion or studio - what might have puzzled you is the fact that in Anthology this footage is also used but in combination with the "Music"-footage (that shows them recording Hey Jude).

Correct me if I misremembered!
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Bobber on July 25, 2012, 10:05:56 AM
Yes, you are correct. It's the other way round and it makes sense. Lady Madonna was going to be the new single and the footage of the recording of Hey Bulldog was used in the video to promote it.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 26, 2012, 12:08:52 AM
Oh wait - wasn`t it the other way around? This the story from the top of my head:
The Beatles were due to mime for a promo clip to go with their Lady Madonna release.
Once in the studio they figured it would be more fun to record a completly new song: Hey Bulldog.
So they were filmed doing this and afterwards the footage was edited to go along Lady Madonna.
Decades later Apple re-released this footage, this time re-edited and synched to the actual song seen recorded: Hey Bulldog.
And no, I don`t think this comes from more than one occassion or studio - what might have puzzled you is the fact that in Anthology this footage is also used but in combination with the "Music"-footage (that shows them recording Hey Jude).

Correct me if I misremembered!




We've all seen the Hey Bulldog clip before.


I think it's à propos to watch both videos again...


The Beatles - Hey Bulldog 1080p [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57jdgNKwdRs#noexternalembed)

The Beatles-Lady Madonna (Digital Remaster 2009) [High Definition] HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vaN6TAQLXs#ws)
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Ken Wood on July 26, 2012, 09:51:50 AM
Re-read the entry in John Winn`s That Magic Feeling (revised edition) and need to add that there is indeed footage from one more occassion in one of the original Lady Madonna clips (there are two): Paul getting up, grabbing his coat and guitar and leaving the studio originally stemming from the Step inside Love promo filming (1967) - but nor used there I think.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Ahme on July 26, 2012, 09:56:26 AM
Cilla Black- Paul McCartney "Step Inside Love" studio session with original audio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMZ7L1TF_dY#)

Paul McCartney and Cilla Black Step Inside Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tprMe0LbVBM#)
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Bobber on July 26, 2012, 12:58:07 PM
There's short snippets from the Step Inside Love video used in the Lady Madonna video, Paul in the orange blouse at 1.44 for instance.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 26, 2012, 03:09:04 PM
There's short snippets from the Step Inside Love video used in the Lady Madonna video, Paul in the orange blouse at 1.44 for instance.

Right.  At 1:23 in the Lady Madonna video.  I hadn't noticed that before.  Thanks Cor.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Dcazz on July 26, 2012, 08:02:55 PM

I think it's à propos to watch both videos again...


The Beatles - Hey Bulldog 1080p [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57jdgNKwdRs#noexternalembed)

The Beatles-Lady Madonna (Digital Remaster 2009) [High Definition] HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vaN6TAQLXs#ws)
[/quote I think there are a couple of scenes that look like they are later in the white album era that has John with longer hair parted in the middle and Ringo in a purple shirt with a mustache. I don't think he grew that until summer 68 when he went on hiatus.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: dylanjohn on July 28, 2012, 10:19:54 AM
Thank you for all the replies.  I'd never seen the Step inside you Footage.  Just when you think you've seen it all.

What are your thoughts on the professional footage though?  The Hey Bulldog session looks professionally edited together.
They had to have filmed more?  If so, where is it...
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Dcazz on July 28, 2012, 11:16:09 AM

I think it's à propos to watch both videos again...


The Beatles - Hey Bulldog 1080p [HD] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57jdgNKwdRs#noexternalembed[/url])

The Beatles-Lady Madonna (Digital Remaster 2009) [High Definition] HD ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vaN6TAQLXs#ws[/url])
I see. The footage didn't make sense to me .Anthology explains it.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: glenesis on August 05, 2012, 07:00:32 AM
I'd never seen the Hey, Bulldog video. Such gorgeous footage, synched up with the banter at the end and everything! I had no idea this was filmed at all. Thanks so much for dissecting it all here, too!
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 05, 2012, 07:19:18 AM
I'd never seen the Hey, Bulldog video. Such gorgeous footage, synched up with the banter at the end and everything! I had no idea this was filmed at all. Thanks so much for dissecting it all here, too!





(http://i47.tinypic.com/21kgi94.jpg)
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Snoopy66 on August 05, 2012, 01:17:31 PM
"Hey Bulldog" is a great video; one of my favourite ever  :)

Snoopy
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: dylanjohn on August 08, 2012, 04:48:51 PM
Just had another thought.  There may be more of this footage somewhere, but also the orignal audio from the cameras would be great to hear.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Dcazz on August 08, 2012, 07:40:28 PM
I think the film as extra good because it's one of the few that are in color! Most shots are in black and white and feel cold and lifeless. It's like WW2 pic's, when you see a color one it adds a whole dimension.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Bobber on August 09, 2012, 07:12:12 AM
Just had another thought.  There may be more of this footage somewhere, but also the orignal audio from the cameras would be great to hear.


I'll have a look in Ritchie Unterberger's book tonight. Remind me if I forget.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Bobber on August 09, 2012, 12:36:12 PM
Ritchie says:

"Maybe it was because they were in a hurry to wrap things up before their already delayed trip to study TM with the Maharishi in India, but the "Lady Madonna" promo clips were considerably less ambitious than their 1967 ones. The soundtrack of the single was simply matched to images of the Beatles recording at the studio. It's been suggested that this may have been done, at least in part, to get around the problems of the miming ban that had prevented the "Hello Goodbye" clips from being broadcast in the UK. While the end result isn't that creative, at least it gives you shots of the Beatles working together in the studio and, to all indications, getting along famously. This could have been the very last such session of their carreer in that regards, as tensions would enter the picture almost from the start of The White Album, largely due to the omnipresence of Yoko Ono. (John, incidentally, recalled the "Hey Bulldog" session as the first attended by Ono in his early -'70s Rolling Stone interview, though she's not visible in any of the shots in this film.)
It wasn't noticed (or at least commented upon) at the time, but "Lady Madonna" was actually not the song the Beatles were recording in this footage. That track was actually "Hey Bulldog", which ended up not even as the B-side, but as part of the Yellow Submarine soundtrack. The head of Apple's film division, Denis O'Dell, told MOJO that he'd "spent a few days coming up with ideas for 'Lady Madonna', [but] when the Beatles wanted to get on with recording 'Hey Bulldog', all that went out the window!" Cannily enough, when Yellow Submarine was reissued for theatrical release in 1999, Apple took some of the original footage to construct yet a third promo film, this time synced to "Hey Bulldog", and distributed it as publicity for the Yellow Submarine movie relaunch.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Toejam on August 09, 2012, 07:17:14 PM
Ritchie says:

 at least it gives you shots of the Beatles working together in the studio and, to all indications, getting along famously. This could have been the very last such session of their carreer in that regards, as tensions would enter the picture almost from the start of The White Album, largely due to the omnipresence of Yoko Ono.

The Beatles' engineer, would subsequently claim this was the last song the band recorded that featured a team dynamic with enthusiasm from every member.
Title: Re: The Hey Bulldog Footage
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on August 10, 2012, 02:27:34 AM
Which is strange to me considering that Hey Bulldog was recorded on 2 tracks and the stereo mix on the original Yellow Submarine album is incredibly sh*tty. Even sh*ttier than the usual stereo mixes pre '69.

I should get around to getting a hold of the Mono box at some point.