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Title: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Bobber on August 19, 2009, 07:27:57 AM
Somehow it's strange, isn't it? We are going to buy music we already have and know. Slightly better and remastered and repackaged... But as for me, I'm going to spend over 400 euro's to buy Beatles music. And I already have all Beatles music! Have we all gone nuts? (I have...)
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: DaveRam on August 19, 2009, 10:40:12 AM
^^^^ Bonkers i'd say  Bobber  ;D
It is mad when you think about it , i will buy both boxsets and i'm not sure why , there is some difference between mono and stereo but doe's it warrant splashing out another 200 pounds ?
I'm considering making these Beatles CD's my last purches of phyisical CD's , think all new music in future that i buy will be downloads , or i may completely stop buying music all together as these remasters feel like the end of the road for me musically , i mean what more am i ever going to need to listen too ?
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: DarkSweetLady on August 19, 2009, 01:12:08 PM
This is exactly what The Beatles do to you! If this was any other band, it wouldn't work.
I am a firm believer that Beatle fans are crazy like this.

I know I am because I'm buying them!
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Joost on August 19, 2009, 02:51:38 PM
I don't think it's crazy. It's called collecting. As long as there are people who pay thousands of dollars for a postage stamp or even millions for a painting, I don't mind spending some money on a cool new version of an album that I already have.

I have seven different copies of Pet Sounds...
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Mairi on August 19, 2009, 04:51:15 PM
I don't think it's that crazy. At least they will be different and better than the old reissues. Because frankly the 1987 CDs suck.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: fendertele on August 19, 2009, 08:03:48 PM
i'm not that bothered about the remasters tbh ive never been that bothered about qaulity as long as its as least listenable.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Kaleidoscope_Eyes on August 19, 2009, 10:28:52 PM
I don't think it's crazy. It's called collecting. As long as there are people who pay thousands of dollars for a postage stamp or even millions for a painting, I don't mind spending some money on a cool new version of an album that I already have.
Agree!

You can take this a step further and say that Love and Happiness are unlimited.... (and then you have to wonder what you're sniffing!) :D :D :D
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 20, 2009, 04:30:14 AM
And in the end I'll have all their stuff on vinyl, 1987 CDs and remastered CDs.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: LSD on August 21, 2009, 03:24:51 AM
Its crazy for outsiders!! But as mentioned above its adding more to the collection. I wont die if i dont get it but il be super happy when I do. ;D
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Whoeveriam on August 21, 2009, 05:36:39 AM
Like I said, why the hell is it still in sideways stereo, yeah it sounds alot better than 22 years aback but Sgt Pup still has a million things on one track. Back to the Songtrack and Naked to think how and when they're gonna get around to Remixing them. The lazy gits.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Penny Lane on August 25, 2009, 06:39:32 AM
Somehow it's strange, isn't it? We are going to buy music we already have and know. Slightly better and remastered and repackaged... But as for me, I'm going to spend over 400 euro's to buy Beatles music. And I already have all Beatles music! Have we all gone nuts? (I have...)

I like your question.

I know I'm crazy. I want all the Beatles' remastered albums and I *KNOW* I should not be spending this much money on them because I already own all their CD's.......but, for this band (IMO), they're worth it. I have never been so grateful that my birthday is in September!!!
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Penny Lane on August 25, 2009, 06:44:54 AM
I have seven different copies of Pet Sounds...

Wow. All on CD, vinyl, or what?

Hmmm...in the course of my Beatles collecting, I have owned "A Hard Day's Night" in the form of:

Audio cassette
CD (un-remastered)
Vinyl (mono reprint)
Paperback book
Video cassette
DVD

And quite soon: CD (remastered)

Maybe all I'm missing is the eight-track version of AHDN...hahaha...
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on August 25, 2009, 10:56:09 AM
I like your question.

I know I'm crazy. I want all the Beatles' remastered albums and I *KNOW* I should not be spending this much money on them because I already own all their CD's.......but, for this band (IMO), they're worth it. I have never been so grateful that my birthday is in September!!!

Birthday Buddies  ;D
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: aspinall_lover on August 25, 2009, 06:32:52 PM
In reality, only a "Beatle Fanatic" can understand/relate all this to another Beatles Fanatic.  I'm putting my money up and getting the stereo remasters' box set.  If you have a "primo" stereo at home, this is well worth the money.  I've got a Bose system that's amazing and the remasters should sound spectacular on it.  And Best Buy aready has the pre-orders of this for $199 USD.  Now..........what I found out about "The Beatles' Rock Band"............I thought for $259USD you were getting the "entire" set-up"..............NOT!!!  You're getting the game, and Paul's bass, Ringo's signature drums, two mics and a mic stand.  Where's John's Rick and George's Gretch?????  Thoser are $99 USD EACH to buy.  So if a person wanted the whole set, it would be nearly $500USD.  Out of range for me!!!
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Penny Lane on August 25, 2009, 07:37:53 PM
Birthday Buddies  ;D

I know!! Today is August 25th, meaning our birthdays are pretty much exactly one month away!! :)
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Joost on August 27, 2009, 02:58:24 PM
Wow. All on CD, vinyl, or what?

Three on CD, three on vinyl, one on audio DVD.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Gary910 on August 27, 2009, 05:12:26 PM
This will be the fifth time I have bought the catalog. Some of those times have been just Stereo or Mono, but the fifth time, nonetheless.

I have bought Band On The Run four times, Pet Sounds three times. Yes, I am crazy. That is part of music collecting. These musicians cry foul about piracy, they are making tons of money with legitimate purchases. I have given a lot of my money to them.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Bobber on August 28, 2009, 09:15:41 AM
I have decided that this is the last time I will buy any music by The Beatles. Maybe if they're coming with an Anthology 4 or whatever previously unreleased, but that's about it. I have bought it more than once now and I feel that enough is enough. I mean, I don't really hate the guys, but this donkey can't be fooled too many times.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Penny Lane on August 28, 2009, 01:19:24 PM
I have decided that this is the last time I will buy any music by The Beatles. Maybe if they're coming with an Anthology 4 or whatever previously unreleased, but that's about it. I have bought it more than once now and I feel that enough is enough. I mean, I don't really hate the guys, but this donkey can't be fooled too many times.

I see what you mean (and ages ago, my mom got on my case because she thought buying the "Anthology" discs were a waste of money), but not all "new" Beatles releases are bad. If you already have all the CD's, some purchases are redundant ("1", for example, in spite of the remastered songs). But some releases are worth having if you are a serious fan:

The "Anthology" series
"Live at the BBC"
"Let It Be... Naked"
"LOVE"
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Bobber on August 28, 2009, 01:28:38 PM
Of course. Anthology and BBC brought us new, previously unreleased material. I'm always eager to have that kind of stuff. Let It Be Naked on the other is not a must in my world. It's a different kind of mix, but more a Paul McCartney revenge than a must. That counts for LOVE even more. I have the cd, but it's collecting dust at the moment. I'm not saying the remasters are bad, on the contrary, but it brings me no song or anything else I haven't heard before.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Penny Lane on August 29, 2009, 12:17:59 AM
About "LOVE" and "Naked"--yes, in a sense, it's true that these discs are rehashes of old products, but I must say I loved them. The production for "Naked" was marvelous and I strongly prefer it to the original Phil Spectorized album. (However, I do miss the odd little songs and banter from the old album.)

I wouldn't call "LOVE" a must-own item, but it is intriguing to listen to because of how the Beatle songs are woven together. Maybe it's more fun for Beatle nerds to sit around and pick apart, but some of the remixes done were pleasantly surprising to me.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: nowhereman71 on August 30, 2009, 10:15:58 AM
I think Apple/EMI do plan to reissue the entire catalogue in 5.1, 10.2 or whatever new-fangled mixing technologies are available.  But why do that when you can make a load of money from the remasters? 

I'm addicted.  Have been since 1982, when I was 11 and got my first record (20 Greatest Hits).  I've got at least 11 copies of Revolver, 9 Sgt. Peppers, 10 Beatles For Sales, etc....the two vinyl singles box sets, the vinyl ep set, the cd versions of the singles and ep sets.  I've got around 400 books.  Have got all the Beatles Monthlies, loads of fan club thingies, period magazines.......and more.  The excuse and justification each time is clear and straightforward....."it's the Beatles!".

I don't need anymore versions of Beatlemusic.  I want them though.   ;D
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: sregis on August 31, 2009, 03:06:24 PM
Of course. Anthology and BBC brought us new, previously unreleased material. I'm always eager to have that kind of stuff. Let It Be Naked on the other is not a must in my world. It's a different kind of mix, but more a Paul McCartney revenge than a must. That counts for LOVE even more. I have the cd, but it's collecting dust at the moment. I'm not saying the remasters are bad, on the contrary, but it brings me no song or anything else I haven't heard before.

for me, i'm less interested in new material than i am for the best sounding versions of the music i know so well...and i guess that would be these remasters.  according to friends, even the ripped mp3's are sonically outstanding.  this was the key question in my book, because i no longer own a cd stereo player (and i doubt i'm alone).
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Brynjar on September 02, 2009, 04:48:17 PM
Somehow it's strange, isn't it? We are going to buy music we already have and know. Slightly better and remastered and repackaged... But as for me, I'm going to spend over 400 euro's to buy Beatles music. And I already have all Beatles music! Have we all gone nuts? (I have...)

Hmm yeah.. I´m still trying to figure out how I will explain it to my girlfriend.  :)
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: nimrod on September 08, 2009, 11:22:14 PM
I think the powers that be were a bit mean here to us loyal Beatle fans, why didnt they sell 1 box set with both mono & stereo versions and add a few $$$$ to the price, this has been done before with remasters.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 09, 2009, 01:19:37 AM
I wouldn't call "LOVE" a must-own item, but it is intriguing to listen to because of how the Beatle songs are woven together. Maybe it's more fun for Beatle nerds to sit around and pick apart, but some of the remixes done were pleasantly surprising to me.

I agree, Penny Lane.  For me, the novelty wore off very quickly.  I listened to it once.  Now it's up on the shelf gathering dust.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 09, 2009, 01:20:50 AM
I think the powers that be were a bit mean here to us loyal Beatle fans, why didnt they sell 1 box set with both mono & stereo versions and add a few $$$$ to the price, this has been done before with remasters.

Yeah.  They had us figured right.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: real01 on December 17, 2015, 03:52:00 PM
I've got at least 11 copies of Revolver, 9 Sgt. Peppers, 10 Beatles For Sales, etc....the two vinyl singles box sets, the vinyl ep set, the cd versions of the singles and ep sets.
^
Wow!  icon_cool

To answer the question in the title: we are crazy, looking thru non-Beatle glasses.
We'd say: we are just passionate.

I have most of their songs on hard drive - but I just had to buy few of their CD remaster stereo albums (Rubber Soul, Revolver, Pepper, MMT, The White Album, Abbey Road and With The Beatles).
(At the time, I don't have much money to spend - so I invest in Beatles music!)

Then I noticed the 'Revolver' i 'Rubber Soul' - U. S. versions CDs so I'm buying that also (minus the first album mentioned because they don't have it in the store).
The US versions are basically the same albums - but they have less songs than their UK originals, but I just have to have them!

Then, 1+ (de luxe edition), although I have the 1 CD already.

Still thinking to buy 'LiB' i 'LiB Naked.'
Do I have it on the drive? Yes. Do I have the 90s CD issue of it? Yes. So, do I need to buy those two albums on CD? No. But I want to have them!  icon_love

If I had the money, I'd go for the Stereo & Mono Box Set (both CDs & vinyl).  icon_cool
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: ibanez_ax on December 17, 2015, 07:03:36 PM
The vinyl mono box from 2014 will be my last big Beatles purchase.  Absolutely.  Without a doubt. 

Unless they re-release the Capitol albums on vinyl, and the stereo UK albums in 5.1, and The Hollywood Bowl album on vinyl, and Anthology on Blu-ray, and.....
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 17, 2015, 10:19:20 PM
^

 ;D


LOVE has even more dust on it today.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: oldbrownshoe on December 17, 2015, 10:36:06 PM
'Love' (truly awful), 'Let It Be.....Naked' (revisionist and contrived) and 'Songtrack' (why?) all made it to the local charity shop about five years ago.

Compare Dylan releases over a similar time-frame - '65/66 Cutting Edge', 'Basement Tapes - Raw', 'Another Self Portrait' - all absolutely essential.....and weep.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 17, 2015, 11:36:29 PM
'Love' (truly awful)

Even worse!
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: nimrod on December 18, 2015, 12:19:27 AM
Even worse!

I like it  ;D
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Moogmodule on December 18, 2015, 01:01:31 AM
Love was worth it for the stringed version of While My Guitar.... and the recut version of Strawberry Fields.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 18, 2015, 03:56:09 AM
Love was worth it for the stringed version of While My Guitar.... and the recut version of Strawberry Fields.

Those were good, weren't they now.  I reckon it's time to blow the dust off that CD.

I'm also very fond of the Esher demo of While My Guitar Gently Weeps on Anthology 3, Moog.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 18, 2015, 03:57:55 AM
I like it  ;D

And I like Mr. Moonlight.   ;)
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Moogmodule on December 18, 2015, 05:29:14 AM

I'm also very fond of the Esher demo of While My Guitar Gently Weeps on Anthology 3, Moog.

I liked that too. It's a pity George didn't do more of simple guitar/vocal arrangements. He did them well.  I like his version of Mama You've Been on my Mind for instance.
Title: Re: Are We All Crazy?
Post by: Loco Mo on December 17, 2016, 10:57:07 AM
I, too, have bought all Beatles albums more than once.  By the way, how many of you have their singles on 45?  I have a bunch of Paul's solo 45s but I don't think I have one Beatles single any more.  I don't know what happened to a lot of stuff I had when I was a kid.  I had two guitars and a drumset and they're all gone now.  I know what happened to the drums but can't remember where the guitars went.

Also, I've owned BBC for a long time but I've never entirely listened to it.  I guess I want that big sound and those mono performances don't have it.  I need to listen to them though.  It's a goal.

I like the original "Let it be" over "Naked."  I don't know why Paul felt he needed to do that.  I like the Spector stuff.  I never understood why they complained about it.  And John's words are priceless.  Why remove those?  I think his bits were part of getting back to their natural sound.

I do like the way recording technology has advanced so that persuades me to repurchase old music that I already own.