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Title: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Joe on August 29, 2008, 03:29:34 PM
Not sure if there's a thread on this anywhere else - I couldn't see one. Sam Taylor-Wood is to be the director of Nowhere Boy, the forthcoming film about John Lennon's childhood.

More here: http://www.beatlesbible.com/2008/08/29/sam-taylor-wood-to-direct-lennon-biopic-nowhere-boy/
An older story, with some background: http://www.beatlesbible.com/2008/07/18/lennon-childhood-biopic-awarded-uk-film-council-grant/
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: BlueMeanie on August 29, 2008, 04:05:19 PM
Let's hope it's accurate and goes some way to dispelling the self perpetrated myth about Lennon's so called awful childhood.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Geoff on August 30, 2008, 10:39:34 AM
Bloody awful title, reminiscent of Sunday feature journalism. It's a wait-and-see project at best.


Taylor-Wood plans Lennon biopic

Artist Sam Taylor-Wood and Control writer Matt Greenhalgh to direct and write film about John Lennon's teenage years

Ben Child and agencies
Guardian.co.uk,
Friday August 29 2008 09:48 BST


John Lennon's troubled adolescence is to be the subject of a film from the writer of Control and the artist Sam Taylor-Wood.

Matt Greenhalgh, who won a Bafta for his screenplay about the final years of Joy Division's Ian Curtis, is to focus his script on the lonely teenage years of the future Beatle, who was raised by his authoritarian aunt after being abandoned by his mother. In the film, titled Nowhere Boy, Lennon finds solace in his music, art and friendship with Paul McCartney.

Taylor-Wood, who will be making her feature debut on the project, will shoot on location in Liverpool in the area where Lennon grew up. Casting is said to be underway on the project, and the Daily Mail reports today that Kate Winslet is being encouraged to audition for the role of Lennon's mother, Julia.

"The women in John's early life truly shaped who he became," Taylor-Wood told the Hollywood Reporter. "And the strengths and weaknesses of their relationships are central to this film."

The feature is being financed by Ecosse Films, with the support of the Film Council. It's not the first film to focus on Lennon, who as part of the Beatles was the subject of 1994's Backbeat, which focused on the band's early career in Hamburg. There was also 1991's The Hours and the Times, a fictionalised account of what might have happened when Lennon and Beatles manager Brian Epstein took a holiday together in 1963. Lennon was played by Ian Hart on both occasions.

Last year's The Killing of John Lennon centred on the final hours of Lennon's life from the perspective of his murderer, Mark Chapman.

While not having directed a feature film before, Taylor-Wood has a history working with musicians. She has produced films based on the Pet Shop Boys' Somewhere concerts at the Savoy theatre in London and made a promotional video starring Robert Downey Jr for the 2001 Elton John single I Want Love.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2008/aug/29/lennon.taylorwood
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Bobber on August 31, 2008, 01:13:52 PM
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Let's hope it's accurate and goes some way to dispelling the self perpetrated myth about Lennon's so called awful childhood.

I can almost already imagine the start of the film with bombs dropping on Liverpool while John was born. Which is inaccurate for a start.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: pc31 on August 31, 2008, 01:17:25 PM
I HEARD IT WAS WAR RAVAGED LIDDYPOOL....sorry about the caps....
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on September 04, 2008, 05:57:03 AM
I heard that Kate Winslet is set to play Julia. An interesting choice for sure.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Geoff on September 04, 2008, 06:17:38 AM
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I heard that Kate Winslet is set to play Julia. An interesting choice for sure.

That was my reaction, too: is Winslet at all plausible for the role (I haven't seen in her in anything lately), or does it say something unfortunate about the sort of movie they want to shoot?

Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: BlueMeanie on September 04, 2008, 06:25:22 AM
Maybe they'll get the bloke that plays Charlie in 'Lost', to play John! ;D
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on September 04, 2008, 06:33:47 AM
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That was my reaction, too: is Winslet at all plausible for the role (I haven't seen in her in anything lately), or does it say something unfortunate about the sort of movie they want to shoot?



I've only seen her in a couple of movies (A Kid in King Arthur's Court and Titanic) but I think she's a good actress who'll probably surprise a lot of people who are thinking Kate Winslet!?
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: BlueMeanie on September 04, 2008, 06:38:23 AM
As long as she shaves her eyebrows.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Geoff on September 04, 2008, 06:44:41 AM
I'm afraid I'm nearly completely lost at this sort of thing: Winslet does appear to have a good career resume, though:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Winslet
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: BlueMeanie on September 04, 2008, 06:58:29 AM
She's a fine actress. I just think that well known people are better played by relative unknowns. A Pauline Collins type would do the job. I won't see Julia Lennon, I'll see Kate Winslett, whereas the unknown will have a reasonable chance at realism. I'll just be waiting for Leonardo to call round and say 'fancy a trip on me boat this afternoon luv'!
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on September 04, 2008, 07:10:49 AM
I think Kate can pull off Julia. When I saw The Dark Knight, I didn't think to myself that that was Heath Ledger. It was The Joker and not Heath. Only afterwards did it sink in. He did that good of a job.

After seeing Leo in some of his other films (The Departed, Blood Diamond, Gangs of New York just to name a few) I hardly ever think of him as his portrayal in Titanic. He's a talented actor who has gotten away (IMO) from that Titanic Leo DiCaprio heart throb crap.  :P His performances in What's Eating Gilbert Grape? and The Basketball Diaries (Both pre Titanic) are amazing as well.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: BlueMeanie on September 04, 2008, 07:12:26 AM
Maybe they could dress him up in drag and play Aunt Mimi?
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on September 04, 2008, 07:14:06 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Geoff on September 04, 2008, 02:07:46 PM
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She's a fine actress. I just think that well known people are better played by relative unknowns. A Pauline Collins type would do the job. I won't see Julia Lennon, I'll see Kate Winslett, whereas the unknown will have a reasonable chance at realism. I'll just be waiting for Leonardo to call round and say 'fancy a trip on me boat this afternoon luv'!

And Fred Lennon was a sailor: they'll have some job writing the Julia and Fred scenes.

Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: fendertele on September 04, 2008, 03:32:16 PM
 another Lennon one ::) i wish they'd make a movie on the life of all of the beatles from hamburg days right through to the breakup.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: cubanheel on September 04, 2008, 10:21:34 PM
Still reeling  -  Kate Winslet??! She was in Iris (played young Iris Murdoch), and was quoted in an interview as saying she hadn't read any of Iris's novels as background to the character, she'd just read the script. So she probably won't even go to Liverpool/listen to any of John's music/look at any of his boyhood art, etc. Or am i being harshly judgemental here? (Yes, I hear you cry!) So far, she's only tipped to be Julia, not guaranteed, and hey  -  she might do a good job!
BUT ... WHO COULD BE MIMI??? Judi Dench? Derek Jacobi? or will they use computer graphics for all characters they can't cast successfully??!
Oh, and I'm hoping for some strong child actors for the various 'ages of John', thinking Billy Elliott/Kes??  They could grab a 'real' kid from some Liverpool classroom, that'd be cool.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Mairi on September 05, 2008, 06:53:50 PM
I'm sorry, but this sounds like a really terrible TV movie from the '80s.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Geoff on September 05, 2008, 09:06:05 PM
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I'm sorry, but this sounds like a really terrible TV movie from the '80s.


It does; the title is awful: it sounds like the sort of thing Fox would run after When Good Pets Go Bad on a slow Sunday night.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Good_Pets_Go_Bad

[What?! You thought I just made that up?]

Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Mairi on September 06, 2008, 06:49:54 PM
Oh Geez, I can't believe that actually exists!
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Geoff on September 21, 2008, 01:20:37 AM
More Nowhere Boy gossip:

New film explodes Lennon myths
Beatle's 'missing' mother actually lived round the corner ... and taught him George Formby songs on the Ukelele
By Brian Pendreigh

JOHN LENNON owed his interest in music not to early American rock and rollers, as popularly believed, but to British music-hall entertainer George Formby and to his mum, according to a new feature film that will shoot next spring.

The wayward Beatle is the latest in a series of British national icons to come under the microscope of Douglas Rae, the Scottish producer whose screen career began in the 1970s presenting the children's programme Magpie.

He had a big hit with Mrs Brown (1997), which looked at the relationship between Queen Victoria and Highland ghillie John Brown. He tackled Jane Austen's love life in Becoming Jane (2007) and he has even had the audacity to remake Brideshead Revisited as a two-hour film, opening in British cinemas next month.
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"The John Lennon story has never been told before on film and it's going to be quite a controversial movie," said Rae, whose company Ecosse Films, also made the long-running TV series Monarch Of The Glen.

It is widely known that Lennon was brought up by his Aunt Mimi. It is generally believed he was abandoned by his mother and that her absence throughout his childhood and her early death traumatised him and inspired the Beatles ballad Julia and the later solo recording, Mother.

But in Rae's film, entitled Nowhere Boy - after one of the Beatles' most famous songs, Nowhere Man - Lennon discovers on his 15th birthday that his mother is living round the corner. He visits her in secret and she teaches him how to play the ukulele and then guitar.

They practise with songs from the repertoire of George Formby, the Wigan-born singer, musician and comedian, who enjoyed a successful career in music hall and films in the 1930s and 1940s.

Formby popularised the song When I'm Cleaning Windows, but his simple-minded songs, squeaky singing voice and juvenile sense of humour have few followers today. Glasgow skiffle star Lonnie Donegan was another favourite with the teenage Lennon and his mum.

"A 15-year-old John Lennon sitting down in the front room with his mother teaching him to play the ukulele and singing George Formby - that was the forerunner of John Lennon the Beatle," said Rae. "And that's quite an interesting story to tell."

Rae insists the film will be the true account of Lennon's formative years. "We have got sources who will confirm everything," said the Edinburgh-born producer.

"We researched the John Lennon story and there was this extraordinary revelation of rediscovering his mother and her nurturing his talents as his first kind of musical mentor."

One key source for Nowhere Boy was Julia Baird, Lennon's half-sister, who wrote a book called Imagine This. She claimed Aunt Mimi more or less took Lennon way from his mother, because the family disapproved of her lifestyle, "living in sin" with another man in the absence of Lennon's seaman father.

"There are lots of people who were at school with him that we're talking to as well, who remember those days very clearly," said Rae.

He said Lennon had not seen his mother since he was five when a schoolfriend told him she was living round the corner. "He starts a kind of relationship with his mother that he keeps quiet from the aunt.

"Because Lennon met her again and rediscovered her, it allowed that communication between them in a way that we wouldn't have had with the normal angst-ridden teenager, who would be rejecting his mother around 15.

"It's that extraordinary circumstance that allows her to pass on her enthusiasm for entertainment and musicianship."

The relationship, however, lasted only a couple of years. Julia Lennon was killed crossing the road when Lennon was 17.

Pete Nash, of the British Beatles Fan Club, said the relationship between Lennon and his mother has been the subject of discussion and conjecture and there was certainly potential for controversy.

"There was a very strange relationship between John and his mother, which is alluded to in Lennon's diaries," he said.

The film is causing great excitement in the industry, with Kate Winslet and Emily Watson touted as Julia and Mimi. The role of Lennon himself is likely to go to an unknown.

It will be directed by video artist Sam Taylor-Wood and is scripted by Matt Greenhalgh, who wrote Control, the biopic about ill-fated Joy Division singer Ian Curtis.

Lennon had family in Scotland and as a boy went on holiday to Edinburgh and to the village of Durness in Sutherland, though the film will shoot entirely in Liverpool.

Asked if Lennon would have become a star and the Beatles the greatest pop phenomenon of the 1960s without the contribution of Julia Lennon, Douglas Rae responded: "Who can say."

In contrast to Julia, Mimi tried her best to discourage Lennon's interest in music. "The guitar's all very well, John," she told him, "but you'll never make a living out of it."

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2450045.0.0.php
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: cubanheel on September 22, 2008, 01:58:52 PM
Thanks for posting!

Can anyone clarify the statement that John visited Julia behind Mimi's back? Is this an assumed 'fact' or has it some basis? Just aroused my curiosity.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Geoff on September 22, 2008, 03:41:39 PM
^ I think I read somewhere that he used to go stay with Julia after having fights with Mimi, but that's only a vague recollection, and who knows where the writer got it from, assuming that I'm even remembering it correctly.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: I am the Paulrus on January 21, 2009, 12:53:56 AM
John Lennon film is tribute to mum

by Tina Miles, Liverpool Echo

Jan 20 2009

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-entertainment/the-beatles/the-beatles-news/2009/01/20/john-lennon-film-is-tribute-to-mum-100252-22731645/

A BIG name Merseyside-born star could play a role in a new movie about John Lennon
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Mairi on January 21, 2009, 12:57:16 AM
Nowhere Boy is the worst f*king name ever. WTF kind of name for a movie is that.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: alexis on January 21, 2009, 04:49:34 AM
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Nowhere Boy is the worst f*king name ever. WTF kind of name for a movie is that.

I agree. It has suggestions of an autism documentary, or maybe the title of some g*y porn movie.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Euan Buchan on February 14, 2009, 11:14:58 PM
For Folk liviving in Liverpool

Open auditions will be held for extras for Nowhere Boy. Producers are searching for men and women of all ages, particularly 16-year-olds to early 20s.

Casting will take place between 9am and 5.30pm on Saturday, February 21 at The Black-E, Great George Street, Liverpool.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: sgt. peppie on October 01, 2009, 01:48:56 AM
The movie supposedly is about John in his teenage years, and showed his relationship with his Aunt Mimi, and his mother, Julia. A kid also plays Paul, and I'm not sure if there'll be a Cynthia yet.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on October 01, 2009, 02:12:04 AM
Wonder if this will be a limited or nationwide release.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: breedofrandy on October 01, 2009, 05:06:07 AM
Wonder if this will be a limited or nationwide release.

I hope nationwide! I doubt it though...
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on October 01, 2009, 07:12:58 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowhere_Boy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowhere_Boy)

I think it'll be nationwide  :)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: breedofrandy on October 01, 2009, 02:47:11 PM
AWESOME!  ;D

Thanks for the info Paul!
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: HeyJude18 on October 01, 2009, 03:36:35 PM
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowhere_Boy[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowhere_Boy[/url])

I think it'll be nationwide  :)


On IMDB they only have release dates for UK, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands and Norway
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Wonderland on October 01, 2009, 05:27:08 PM
Could be interesting... but the cast don't look right for it as far as I can see. :P
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Mairi on October 19, 2009, 04:22:19 AM
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/40244280.html (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/40244280.html)

(http://i35.tinypic.com/oku4yh.jpg)

John Lennon (played by Aaron Johnson) is an ordinary 15 year old boy on the streets of Liverpool. Funny, smart, naughty, a real edge to him. But life is not simple for John - he grew up in a family of secrets and was raised by his Aunt Mimi (Kristin Scott Thomas) from the age of five. When he is suddenly reacquainted with his mother, Julia (Anne-Marie Duff) they form an unbreakable bond. A bitter war rages between the two sisters for John's love. Faced with bringing it to an end, he learns the secret heartbreak of his past. But his mother gives him one great gift - music. A wayward boy finds his voice, and walks into The Beatles.


"Cut" orders director Sam Taylor-Wood, and Aaron Johnson's shoulders sag a little. The actor, (who plays Lennon), is only 19, and mainly famous to legions of love-struck teenage girls for his role in last year's hit Irish comedy Angus, Thongs and Perfect Snogging (the screaming girls are something he has in common with Lennon, at least.) The success or failure of this film, Nowhere Boy , is essentially his burden. When he took the part, he couldn't sing or play guitar; he is from a town near London called High Wycombe, which is a very long way, economically and by train, from Liverpool.

Johnson, with lanky body and angular face, has the look of a young Lennon.

The chip on the shoulder and ugly glasses from the National Health Service, both so central to the myth, are present but concealed (the teenaged Lennon loathed wearing his glasses). A makeup woman comes over to adjust his architecturally-impressive hair, known as a duck's ass to North American proto-rockers and a duck's arse to the skiffle-mad boys of Lennon's childhood who imported the rockabilly influenced sound.

"Aaron's going to be a star," says Nowhere Boy 's producer, Kevin Loader, watching from the side of the set, echoing producers' pronouncements since the first clapboard clapped shut. It is, to say the least, a challenging role. Loader says, "He's playing someone we all think we know everything about. He's got to have a confidence and sense of destiny, but he's also a mixed-up teenager whose family is throwing him all over the place. Aaron's got an emotional understanding, for his age, that's just mind-blowing. And he does stillness very well."

At first, the thing Johnson didn't do very well was sing. "We knew we had to get the best actor," says Loader. "The rest could be learned."


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This movie looks awful but you know I'm going to see it anyway. At least the actor is hot.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: eroz0 on October 19, 2009, 01:12:26 PM
This movie looks awful but you know I'm going to see it anyway. At least the actor is hot.
It doesn't look to promising I'm afraid. Paul didn't seem to like it either, so that's not good.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 19, 2009, 02:30:02 PM
It doesn't look to promising I'm afraid. Paul didn't seem to like it either, so that's not good.

The guy who did the screenplay also wrote Control, the Ian Curtis  (Joy Division) movie, which was very well recieved and nominated for heaps of awards. The studio also seems well regarded.
Although it's her first movie, the director is very "art house" and has been nominated for BAFTA's (British oscars) for a short movie (a rock based romance.) She's also a very well respected conceptual artist.*
It might be okay. Interesting to see how much myth will creep in.

*sudden horror thought - I hope she's not connected with Yoko.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Mairi on October 19, 2009, 03:35:49 PM
Well, the hipsters are going to love it, I can already tell that.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: alexis on October 19, 2009, 06:11:26 PM
[url]http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/40244280.html[/url] ([url]http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/40244280.html[/url])

([url]http://i35.tinypic.com/oku4yh.jpg[/url])

John Lennon (played by Aaron Johnson) is an ordinary 15 year old boy on the streets of Liverpool. Funny, smart, naughty, a real edge to him. But life is not simple for John - he grew up in a family of secrets and was raised by his Aunt Mimi (Kristin Scott Thomas) from the age of five. When he is suddenly reacquainted with his mother, Julia (Anne-Marie Duff) they form an unbreakable bond. A bitter war rages between the two sisters for John's love. Faced with bringing it to an end, he learns the secret heartbreak of his past. But his mother gives him one great gift - music. A wayward boy finds his voice, and walks into The Beatles.


"Cut" orders director Sam Taylor-Wood, and Aaron Johnson's shoulders sag a little. The actor, (who plays Lennon), is only 19, and mainly famous to legions of love-struck teenage girls for his role in last year's hit Irish comedy Angus, Thongs and Perfect Snogging (the screaming girls are something he has in common with Lennon, at least.) The success or failure of this film, Nowhere Boy , is essentially his burden. When he took the part, he couldn't sing or play guitar; he is from a town near London called High Wycombe, which is a very long way, economically and by train, from Liverpool.

Johnson, with lanky body and angular face, has the look of a young Lennon.

The chip on the shoulder and ugly glasses from the National Health Service, both so central to the myth, are present but concealed (the teenaged Lennon loathed wearing his glasses). A makeup woman comes over to adjust his architecturally-impressive hair, known as a duck's ass to North American proto-rockers and a duck's arse to the skiffle-mad boys of Lennon's childhood who imported the rockabilly influenced sound.

"Aaron's going to be a star," says Nowhere Boy 's producer, Kevin Loader, watching from the side of the set, echoing producers' pronouncements since the first clapboard clapped shut. It is, to say the least, a challenging role. Loader says, "He's playing someone we all think we know everything about. He's got to have a confidence and sense of destiny, but he's also a mixed-up teenager whose family is throwing him all over the place. Aaron's got an emotional understanding, for his age, that's just mind-blowing. And he does stillness very well."

At first, the thing Johnson didn't do very well was sing. "We knew we had to get the best actor," says Loader. "The rest could be learned."


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([url]http://i37.tinypic.com/5esmtv.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i37.tinypic.com/2gy15io.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i33.tinypic.com/w141li.jpg[/url])

This movie looks awful but you know I'm going to see it anyway. At least the actor is hot.



The artistry looks more like Ralph Steadman than John Lennon, and John looks more like Stu or Buddy Holly than John. But besides that, it looks good!
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: eroz0 on October 20, 2009, 09:40:27 AM
The guy who did the screenplay also wrote Control, the Ian Curtis  (Joy Division) movie, which was very well recieved and nominated for heaps of awards. The studio also seems well regarded.
Although it's her first movie, the director is very "art house" and has been nominated for BAFTA's (British oscars) for a short movie (a rock based romance.) She's also a very well respected conceptual artist.*
It might be okay. Interesting to see how much myth will creep in.

*sudden horror thought - I hope she's not connected with Yoko.
I meant it doesn't look very promising as far as historical accuracy goes. It might be a great movie, but if it's not true to facts, I know I won't enjoy it.

It's not connected to Yoko in any way. It's based on Julia Baird's book and the director seems to have a friendly relationship with the McCartney family, I think she's friends or has worked with Mary in the past. I said Paul didn't like it because in an interview he talked about how books etc. can be inaccurate and he brought up the movie as an example he said that they screened it for him and he told Taylor-Wood something like "This is all wrong, Sam, it wasn't like that at all".
Title: Nowhere Boy trailer
Post by: sgt. peppie on October 28, 2009, 10:03:28 PM
here's the trailer for the movie ;D
Nowhere Boy - Official Trailer - HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yIXxkD-6j8#normal)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy trailer
Post by: HeyJude18 on October 28, 2009, 11:52:18 PM
Aw ok I wanna see that.  It looks like a really sweet movie.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on October 29, 2009, 01:40:37 AM
Yah thats what I thought. Is it worldwide???
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: georgeharrisonluver on October 29, 2009, 02:33:26 AM
okay, I have to see that now!
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Euan Buchan on October 29, 2009, 11:47:14 AM
That looks a good film heard it could be out this Xmas
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: eroz0 on October 29, 2009, 02:16:25 PM
Blue-eyed John is just wrong. Haven't they heard of contacts?

And the Paul actor is just as bad. I don't mind if an actor doesn't look exactly like the actual person they play, but they could at least find someone with a similar body type. This kid is all angles.

Acting ability is more important than looks, of course, but their appearance is distracting. And the problem could have easily been avoided.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 29, 2009, 02:40:57 PM
Blue-eyed John is just wrong. Haven't they heard of contacts?

And the Paul actor is just as bad. I don't mind if an actor doesn't look exactly like the actual person they play, but they could at least find someone with a similar body type. This kid is all angles.

Acting ability is more important than looks, of course, but their appearance is distracting. And the problem could have easily been avoided.
^ Maybe. Everyone said the same when Val Kilmer got to play Jim Morrison, but he ended up perfect. "Paul" looks okay to me. Babyfaced and gangly should do it.
I heard the tail end of a radio interview with the director. She knows she'll never please Beatle fans. She said it was exceptionally hard to decide whose "truth" was more accurate than other's "truths"
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: HeyJude18 on October 29, 2009, 03:17:25 PM
Exactly my thoughts Kevin.  I'm just intending to take this movie with a grain of (creative) salt, almost like Backbeat in a way.  It may not be the exact way things unfolded but there's only one person who would have known that, and unfortunately nobody can ask him.  Of course I'm expecting creative liberties but it honestly looks a lot better than I expected.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: eroz0 on October 29, 2009, 03:28:06 PM
^ Maybe. Everyone said the same when Val Kilmer got to play Jim Morrison, but he ended up perfect. "Paul" looks okay to me. Babyfaced and gangly should do it.
I heard the tail end of a radio interview with the director. She knows she'll never please Beatle fans. She said it was exceptionally hard to decide whose "truth" was more accurate than other's "truths"
Gangly is totally wrong for Paul, IMO. If anything, he was plump as a teenager.

I don't know, I guess it could turn out to be a good film, but I'm afraid the look of the actors will be distracting to me. On the bright side, I adore Kristin Scott Thomas and I think she's perfectly cast as Mimi.

On the whole, I'm afraid this is going to turn out as another "Backbeat" which I loathed, but I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 29, 2009, 03:43:04 PM
Dunno. I think that plumpness might have come with the good living lifestyle of being a rockstar.

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Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 29, 2009, 03:52:19 PM
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Title: Nowhere Boy: New John Movie?
Post by: Paulram on October 29, 2009, 05:14:00 PM
So apparently I'm very unplugged from the John Lennon World ;D because I just found out that the movie Nowhere Boy is about him :) But I don't know too much about it. Anybody else?

I think I want to see it if it's not R
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy: New John Movie?
Post by: BlueMeanie on October 29, 2009, 05:20:18 PM
Now merged with original thread.

Please, please, please look before posting guys!!!!
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: eroz0 on October 29, 2009, 06:10:54 PM
Dunno. I think that plumpness might have come with the good living lifestyle of being a rockstar.

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Most of the photos you linked are from Hamburg and post-Hamburg. He reportedly lost a lot of weight during their stay in Hamburg, but before that he was considered plump. In fact his brother used to call him fatty (although, he wasn't really fat). This is from an article Mike wrote back in the 60s:

Paul loved everything sweet. He'd eat sweets and cakes until he exploded if somebody didn't stop him. Toleration and Moderation, young Paul! He ate so much sweet stuff that he grew very fat in his early teens. I used to call him Fatty. He didn't like that, of course. But he was a fatty. Weren't you, Fatty?

...

That five-week season in the nightclub-quarter of Hamburg almost finished the Beatles before they had really started! They were worked practically to death. Their hours were little short of suicide - from 10 p.m. till midnight and from 2 a.m. till 5 a.m. Fantastic hours for kids who were little more than schoolboys. And even then they had to buy their own food - which didn't leave very much over for expensive guitars or clothes or other things. When Paul returned home and rang the front doorbell, Dad and I hardly recognized him. His hair was really wild and he was so thin that he looked like a refugee from a concentration camp. I couldn't call him "Fatty" any more, and even though we did fatten him up a bit again, he was never so chubby.


Unfortunately, there are very few, if any, pictures from that time. The last one you linked is maybe around that time, or a little later. He is definitely not fat, but he is not gangly either.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: BlueMeanie on October 29, 2009, 06:25:56 PM
He may well have been a bit of a tub in his pre Hamburg days, but unless you're a hardcore fan such as those on forums like this one, you wouldn't know it, and you'd think it was odd portraying him like that.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: breedofrandy on October 29, 2009, 06:40:55 PM
This looks really sweet. I think it will be pretty good! After watching the preview you get a whole new sense of the film.

The only downer is the looks of John. But I guess I can get past that bit. It looks really sad. But I want to see it!! :)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Jane on October 29, 2009, 10:28:50 PM
I already want to see the film. And I won`t be too critical.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: nyfan(41) on October 29, 2009, 11:10:46 PM
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paul had his babyfat face and i heard he was teased

i always assumed that was one reason he was a sensitive person
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: nyfan(41) on October 29, 2009, 11:13:48 PM
trailer looks good !  ;yes
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on October 29, 2009, 11:15:09 PM
paul had his babyfat face and i heard he was teased

And now there's girls like me who think Paul's babyface is the cutest damn thing ever  ha2ha

( I have problems  2ch)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: breedofrandy on October 29, 2009, 11:25:57 PM
And now there's girls like me who think Paul's babyface is the cutest damn thing ever  ha2ha

( I have problems  2ch)

I think we all have problems Emmi!  ha2ha
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on October 29, 2009, 11:29:03 PM
I think we all have problems Emmi!  ha2ha

Hahaha!! At least I'm not alone  ;D
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: nyfan(41) on October 29, 2009, 11:32:39 PM
^^ haha

but i think he was like the kid who lost the babyfat one summer and came back handsome - because he never carried himself arrogant like "mr. goodlooking all his life" - and i think that's a key part of his sensitive personality

when you look at this school picture 'body language-wise', it's like he's an outcast - look how the boys in the back have their little clique and the girls seem like they don't know he's alive . . . i read that the people in this photo are trying to get him to take a new picture with all the same people . . . . i bet you it never happens !

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Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: eroz0 on October 30, 2009, 07:04:24 AM
^^ haha

but i think he was like the kid who lost the babyfat one summer and came back handsome - because he never carried himself arrogant like "mr. goodlooking all his life" - and i think that's a key part of his sensitive personality


I think you have a point there.

Here is a review of the movie from Hollywood reporter.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/nowhere-boy-film-review-1004031851.story (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/nowhere-boy-film-review-1004031851.story)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 30, 2009, 09:20:41 AM

paul had his babyfat face and i heard he was teased

i always assumed that was one reason he was a sensitive person

I surrender on the gangly thing. But Paul sensitive? Most descriptions I've read of him describe him as rather, cold and detached. He's always seemed to me to be the kind of person that keeps his real self locked away. Not saying his a cyborg, just that he doesn't seem anymore sensitive than your average bear.
I saw an interview with the director. She spoke about how they portray John's relationship with his mum (ie borderline incestious).
She gave a John Lennon quote (I don't know it and I paraphrase here) "she (Julia) brushed against me and I knew then that I could have her."
The director said whether this was true or another Lennonism (Beatlespeak for bullsh*t) the fact is Lennon felt comfortable playing with the idea so so did they.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: BlueMeanie on October 30, 2009, 09:49:21 AM
I surrender on the gangly thing. But Paul sensitive? Most descriptions I've read of him describe him as rather, cold and detached. He's always seemed to me to be the kind of person that keeps his real self locked away. Not saying his a cyborg, just that he doesn't seem anymore sensitive than your average bear.
I saw an interview with the director. She spoke about how they portray John's relationship with his mum (ie borderline incestious).
She gave a John Lennon quote (I don't know it and I paraphrase here) "she (Julia) brushed against me and I knew then that I could have her."
The director said whether this was true or another Lennonism (Beatlespeak for bullsh*t) the fact is Lennon felt comfortable playing with the idea so so did they.

I think it's definitely fair to portray the relationship like that. The Lennonites will be up in arms of course, but he said it, so I think that makes him fair game.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: The Swine on October 30, 2009, 09:50:25 AM
Lennonism (Beatlespeak for bullsh*t)

that made my day


kristin scott thomas eh? might be worth it
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: eroz0 on October 30, 2009, 09:58:57 AM
I surrender on the gangly thing. But Paul sensitive? Most descriptions I've read of him describe him as rather, cold and detached. He's always seemed to me to be the kind of person that keeps his real self locked away. Not saying his a cyborg, just that he doesn't seem anymore sensitive than your average bear.


Keeping his real self locked away, doesn't mean someone is not sensitive, it could just be a defense mechanism. People who are close to him described him as sensitive. I think most artists are sensitive, anyway. It goes with the territory.

A very positive review of the film from the Independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/first-night-nowhere-boy-london-film-festival-1811705.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/first-night-nowhere-boy-london-film-festival-1811705.html)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 30, 2009, 10:41:46 AM
Keeping his real self locked away, doesn't mean someone is not sensitive, it could just be a defense mechanism. People who are close to him described him as sensitive. I think most artists are sensitive, anyway. It goes with the territory.



Most..maybe not all. This professional (admittedly not overly successful) c1910 Viennese artist appeared to lack a little warmth. By all accounts Picasso was a pr*ck and that dude from Momass and Papas was sleeping with his daughter. I can never get over the fact that Paul proposed to Heather barely three years after the death of the "love of his life."
My understanding of McCartneys personality come from quotes too, but damned if I can remember who from. Mostly I think from people who knew him professionaly, not family (who may know him better.) Mind you, they're hardly unbiased witnesses.   :)
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Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: eroz0 on October 30, 2009, 12:05:17 PM
Most..maybe not all. This professional (admittedly not overly successful) c1910 Viennese artist appeared to lack a little warmth. By all accounts Picasso was a pr*ck and that dude from Momass and Papas was sleeping with his daughter. I can never get over the fact that Paul proposed to Heather barely three years after the death of the "love of his life."
My understanding of McCartneys personality come from quotes too, but damned if I can remember who from. Mostly I think from people who knew him professionaly, not family (who may know him better.) Mind you, they're hardly unbiased witnesses.   :)

Being a prick doesn't preclude being sensitive, either.  :P

As for Paul marrying Heather, so fast (is 3 years that fast, btw?), it's something rather common for men who were in long term successful marriages. If anything, it shows how lonely he felt. It's not like he started fooling around with a different woman every week. I think he was subconsciously trying to replace Linda, that's why he chose a woman who was an activist and not some starlet. He obviously screwed up because, I think, he wasn't ready for a relationship and he didn't see Heather for who she is.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 30, 2009, 12:24:37 PM
Being a prick doesn't preclude being sensitive, either.  :P

As for Paul marrying Heather, so fast (is 3 years that fast, btw?), it's something rather common for men who were in long term successful marriages. If anything, it shows how lonely he felt. It's not like he started fooling around with a different woman every week. I think he was subconsciously trying to replace Linda, that's why he chose a woman who was an activist and not some starlet. He obviously screwed up because, I think, he wasn't ready for a relationship and he didn't see Heather for who she is.

ummmmmmm....go to your room!
I think (guess) the real answer is neither of us really know the inner workings of Paul's mind. You see him as lonely, I see him as cold. Not that this is the case here, but so many assume Paul a romantic because he writes love songs. But we know Paul was the consumate songwriter who could put his hand to almost anything.
I just baulk (sp) a bit when people make assumptions about their characters without much (that I can see) to back it up. I just can't see anything that makes him seem anymore sensitive than most. ( I take it we're talking about sensitive as in loving or caring, not easily slighted. Obviously Lennon would win that one.)
If I can join The Sweeping Generalisation Club I don't thinking many northern men of his generation were known as being especially sensitive. Liverpool doesn't breed them like that. Keep it in they do. My dad was a scouser and he never said he loved me. Not once! Bastard. Would it have hurt? Oh, but no, he just drank and banged on about football. Told me to be a man. Now I'm 51, single, with a chronic substance abuse problem. F*cking northerners. They can all go to hell.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: cassNJ on October 30, 2009, 12:36:51 PM
Actually it was 4 years; Linda died in Apr 98 and he married Heather Mills in Jun 2002.  But either way, I can't believe someone would think that was disrespectful of Linda's memory!  Anyway, Paul is apparently the kind of guy, and there are many of them, that hates to be alone.  Too bad Heather turned out to be crazy and evil but she fooled a lot of people besides him.

When Paul met John his mother had died less than a year before.  It of course had a huge effect on him.  Besides burying himself in his guitar-playing, he became withdrawn.  John's reaction when his mother died was different; we all have our ways of dealing with tragedy.

A few articles that came out recently from schoolmates say that Paul was always very popular with the girls and he was considered to be very good-looking.  He was pretty out-going, before his mother died, the star of the school plays, entertaining his classmates, etc.  He might not have had a "posse" like John did but he had some close friends, including Ivan Vaughan and of course George Harrison.  He's always had the reputation, even back then, of being outwardly friendly, but only letting a few people actually get close to him.

Not that I expect the movie to get those kind of details right.  It's a movie about John, after all.  I just thought I'd let you guys know what Paul was like according to the stuff I've read.   I do hope that someday somebody makes a movie about the relationship between John and Paul.  I mean, they were the most important musical partnership of our time.  You'd think somebody would find that interesting!
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 30, 2009, 12:47:11 PM
nice post^
Paul and John's relationship is indeed interesting, probably because it's a little wierd. John doesn't seem to have bonded with Paul the way he did with Stuart or Yoko. I'm standing by my thoughts that maybe Paul doesn't bond strongly with anyone, so he's harder to judge. But we know that John can become besotted with both male friends and ladies, and he doesn't seem to with Paul.
Paul says in Hunter Davis's book that he now realises his relationship with John was like that of army buddies (ie men thrown together by circumstance whose friendship survives only as long as that circumstance lasts.)
I can't think of anything that indicates that Paul was any closer to John than he was to George and Ringo or even Denny Laine.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 30, 2009, 12:53:13 PM
Actually it was 4 years; Linda died in Apr 98 and he married Heather Mills in Jun 2002.  But either way, I can't believe someone would think that was disrespectful of Linda's memory!  Anyway, Paul is apparently the kind of guy, and there are many of them, that hates to be alone.  Too bad Heather turned out to be crazy and evil but she fooled a lot of people besides him.
Gidday.
Now we have three suppositions based on this:
mine - he's cold
cassNJ - it's common for men to remarry quickly after being in longterm successful marriages
yours - he's the kind of guy who doesn't like being on his own.
There's a Hitchcock movie in this somewhere.

But I'll hark back to my original point. Nothing indicates that Paul was especially sensitive. He might be. But we don't know.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: cassNJ on October 30, 2009, 01:23:29 PM
Kevin, I don't know how many books you've read about The Beatles.  I've been reading quite a few, and articles, interviews, etc.  I'm doing it for a project that I'm working on.  Anyway, there is tons of evidence that their relationship was very close.  I'm going by primary sources (the Beatles themselves, close friends and associates, etc.)  Starting when they first met each other, and continuing until the breakup.  After the breakup, there's lots of conflicting information, so I won't even go into that here.  But before that, like I said, there are many, many quotes that I could use to back up what I'm saying.  Quotes from Cynthia, Julia Baird (John's step-sister), Tony Bramwell, George Martin, and Geoff Emerick, just to name a few.  That's not even mentioning what John and Paul themselves have said.  Of course a lot of people discount anything Paul says automatically.  And John contradicted himself constantly, so we can only guess what he really thought about anything.  But they have both described their relationship as being very close.  Even Yoko, who seemed determined to keep John away from people who might compete with her for John's time and attention, has admitted that John loved Paul very much. 

That quote you mentioned about "army buddies" needs to be seen in its context.   During those years that John was frequently flogging him in the press, Paul at times, very understandably, began to question the relationship himself, thinking that maybe John had never really cared much for him.  After John died, Yoko and May Pang reassured him that John really had loved him.  We can only guess why John said some of the things he said. I bet he didn't even know himself.  Their friendship definitely had its problems, but that doesn't mean they weren't close, at least at one time.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: eroz0 on October 30, 2009, 01:26:15 PM
Paul says in Hunter Davis's book that he now realises his relationship with John was like that of army buddies (ie men thrown together by circumstance whose friendship survives only as long as that circumstance lasts.)
I can't think of anything that indicates that Paul was any closer to John than he was to George and Ringo or even Denny Laine.

Paul said that to Hunter Davies while he was having a minor mental breakdown over the phone because Yoko said he had hurt John more than any other person. It was wrong of Davies to put that conversation in his book, it was a betrayal of Paul's trust, but I think it illustrates how sensitive Paul is, not the opposite. John was obviously very important to him and because of the various interviews John gave slamming him in the 70s, he felt very insecure about their relationship.  

I think John and Paul were close, various Quarrymen have said that the moment they met they became inseparable. It's also telling that Paul seemed jealous when John formed strong relationships with other people, like Stuart for example.

I don't know, to me it seems kind of natural that they would be close. Their partnership caused them to spent a lot of time together. I think it's telling that John referred to him as his best friend during an interview in 71-72 when their relationship was at its lowest point.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: cassNJ on October 30, 2009, 01:54:54 PM
Good point, eroz!  Paul was very hurt by stuff that John said about him; and the books that minimize his role in The Beatles, as well as minimize the friendship between John and him, hurt him too. Paul teared up in a video on youtube where he's playing "Beautiful Boy" and telling the DJ that it's his favorite song of John's.  Before you call them crocodile tears, remember that Paul is a notoriously bad actor.  John hid his sensitivity by being sarcastic and at times vicious.  Paul hides his by guarding his feelings, playing it "close to the vest" as someone said.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 30, 2009, 02:34:53 PM
Kevin, I don't know how many books you've read about The Beatles.  I've been reading quite a few, and articles, interviews, etc.  I'm doing it for a project that I'm working on.  Anyway, there is tons of evidence that their relationship was very close.  I'm going by primary sources (the Beatles themselves, close friends and associates, etc.) 

I bow to your superior knowledge. I admit my Beatle reading is a tad out of date.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: nyfan(41) on October 30, 2009, 03:26:51 PM
you don't need to comb through rare interviews to know paul is sensitive. just listen to his music
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on October 30, 2009, 03:47:55 PM
you don't need to comb through rare interviews to know paul is sensitive. just listen to his music

Oh, now you've gone and ruined it. I was with you on the "primary sources" thing. Sorry, but I don't think pop/rock songs portray any real sensitivity in their author. Paul was a (very good) professional songwriter. Heartbreak Hotel was written by a team of professional songwriters. Pulling heartstrings is what they do. Much of Paul's songs appear to be excellently clever examples of extremely good songwriting. He knocks them out in any style at the drop of a hat. "You want a love song - I'll give you a love song. You want reggae - I'll give you reggae.) That's not to criticise - the man's a genius - just not a particularly sensitive one?  :)  It's pop music, not Shakespeare.
Lennon does sensitive emotion much better, but is cursed by being an utter prat.
For the record I prefer McCartneys Beatle work overall, but my favourite Beatle songs are John's (Walrus and ADITL)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: nyfan(41) on October 30, 2009, 04:02:46 PM
you know what kevin . . . . . she's leaving home  :'( :'( :'( and you don't really seem to give a @#$% !!   ha2ha ha2ha ha2ha
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: fendertele on October 30, 2009, 06:25:05 PM
Just watched the trailer the guy theve picked for Paul looks like him but he is dwarfed by Lennons Actor, not that its a huge thing but wee things like that strike me as lazy if theyre gonna try and do it right then things like that should be spotted and resolved maybe give him lifts.. i also had no idea John decked Paul when they were younger.

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb52/The_Playlist/nowhereboy-quarrymen.jpg)

and for some celeb gossip on the movie.

With an age gap of 23 years they said it would never last.

But today artist Sam Taylor-Wood, 42, announced she is to marry her 19-year-old toyboy Aaron Johnson.

The couple met when she cast the relatively unknown teenager  as John Lennon in her debut feature film Nowhere Boy, which premiered in London last night.

A spokesman for the couple confirmed their wedding plans this afternoon and said they were 'very happy'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1224118/Artist-Sam-Taylor-Wood-42-marry-19-year-old-Nowhere-Boy-actor-Aaron-Johnson.html#ixzz0VReIz3EK (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1224118/Artist-Sam-Taylor-Wood-42-marry-19-year-old-Nowhere-Boy-actor-Aaron-Johnson.html#ixzz0VReIz3EK)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: cassNJ on October 30, 2009, 07:14:45 PM
Paul had just turned 15 when he met John.  And he was nearly 2 years younger, so it seems reasonable to me that he'd be shorter than John.  As for John decking Paul, I have never heard anything about it.  Not that it means it's not true... but maybe they used some dramatic license there.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: sgt. peppie on October 31, 2009, 12:56:33 AM
^^ haha

but i think he was like the kid who lost the babyfat one summer and came back handsome - because he never carried himself arrogant like "mr. goodlooking all his life" - and i think that's a key part of his sensitive personality

when you look at this school picture 'body language-wise', it's like he's an outcast - look how the boys in the back have their little clique and the girls seem like they don't know he's alive . . . i read that the people in this photo are trying to get him to take a new picture with all the same people . . . . i bet you it never happens !

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aw, i can relate to that. there's a picture of me in my old basketball team, they had their shoulders basically linked while i was at the side, obviously looking left out. they treated me like crap except for about 2 team mates.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: fendertele on October 31, 2009, 03:47:35 AM
a think we might be reading into it too much, its probably just the tall kids around the same height at the back and he wasnt around the same so was placed in the centre row and told to kneel down, if he had been at the back am sure he would have had his arm round his shoulder too like the other guys no ?.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: sgt. peppie on October 31, 2009, 03:49:14 AM
^^
probably  ;D
either way, my basketball team mates were real snobs
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Andy Smith on November 06, 2009, 12:07:42 AM
seen a trailer for it and i'm a bit,..mmmmm :-\
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Euan Buchan on November 07, 2009, 10:49:38 AM
The film is out on Boxing Day
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: HeyJude18 on November 18, 2009, 04:10:28 PM
The soundtrack list has just been released (and I guess the soundtrack itself will be released December 14th on CD and for download according to the website)

CD1 - OST

Wild One - Jerry Lee Lewis
Mr Sandman - Dickie Valentine
Rocket 88 - Jackie Brenston & His Delta Cats
Shake, Rattle & Roll - Elvis Presley
Hard Headed Woman - Wanda Jackson
I Put A Spell On You - Screamin’ Jay Hawkins
Maggie May - The Nowhere Boys
That’ll Be The Day - The Nowhere Boys
Rockin’ Daddy - Eddie Bond & The Stompers
Twenty Flight Rock - Eddie Cochran
That’s Alright Mamma - The Nowhere Boys
Movin and Groovin - The Nowhere Boys
Raunchy - The Nowhere Boys
Hound Dog - Big Mama Thornton
Be-Bop-A-Lula - Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps
Hello Little Girl - Aaron Johnson
In Spite Of All The Danger - The Nowhere Boys
Mother - John Lennon

CD2 - (Tracks subject to final clearance)

Elvis Presley - Baby Let’s Play House
The Isley Brothers -Twist & Shout
Duane Eddy - Rebel Rouser
Charlie Rich - She Loved Everybody But Me
Lonnie Donegan - Putting on the Style
Buddy Holly - Peggy Sue
Frankie Vaughan - These Dangerous Years
Dale Hawkins - Susie-Q
Barrett Strong - Money (That’s What I Want)
The Del Vikings - Come Go With Me
Bill Haley - Rock Around the Clock
Lloyd Price - Stagger Lee
Little Richard - Rip It Up
Alligator Charles - See You Later
Little Richard - Long Tall Sally
Chan Romero - The Hippy Hippy Shake
Buddy Knox - Party Doll
Shirley & Lee - Let the Good Times Roll
Fats Domino - Ain’t That A Shame
Everly Brothers - Bye, Bye Love
Bobby Fuller Four - I Fought The Law
Jimmy Lloyd - I Got A Rocket In My Pocket

(http://www.live4ever.uk.com/2009/11/john-lennons-biopic-soundtrack-nowhere-boy-released-as-cd-and-digital-download/ (http://www.live4ever.uk.com/2009/11/john-lennons-biopic-soundtrack-nowhere-boy-released-as-cd-and-digital-download/))
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Wonderland on November 18, 2009, 04:55:49 PM
^^ It looks like an interesting soundtrack. :)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: cubanheel on November 18, 2009, 11:23:11 PM
Who are the Nowhere Boys? are they a tribute act? or session musicians? I'd just be interested.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Joe on December 01, 2009, 09:49:39 AM
Who are the Nowhere Boys? are they a tribute act? or session musicians? I'd just be interested.


The Nowhere Boys are the actors in the film who play the Quarry Men/Beatles (depending on the scene). The performances are generally faithful to what is known to have been recorded in the 1950s/early 60s (eg That'll Be The Day and In Spite Of All The Danger, though in much better quality than the Anthology versions).

I saw the film last night, at a special screening Abbey Road's studio two. It was a wonderful, magical night. Sam Taylor-Wood introduced it to about 50 of us in the audience. Each of us were given 7" singles of the Nowhere Boys doing That'll Be The Day/ISOATD in retro sleeves (though it was nice to see the MPL publishing credit for TBTD).

Nowhere Boy itself is generally very good, though Beatles obsessives will be able to pick up on the odd (very minor) detail - eg the St Peter's Church event after which John met Paul is described as the Quarry Men's first live show, whereas they're known to have played Roseberry St before then. It won't matter for most people who see it though.

The main problem I had was that, Lennon, Mimi, Julia and Pete Shotton aside, most of the actors look nothing like the people they're portraying. So when the camera pans to a watching Paul at the St Peter's fete, nobody knows it's actually him and the sense of occasion is missed.

I'll be posting a fuller review on www.beatlesbible.com (http://www.beatlesbible.com) when I can, probably the next day or so. I have photos from Studio Two as well.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Joe on December 02, 2009, 01:02:42 PM
OK, here we go. Sorry if anyone objects to all the links.

Blog post from Abbey Road (including photos and a scan of the promo 7"): http://www.beatlesbible.com/2009/12/01/nowhere-boy-screening-abbey-road-studios/ (http://www.beatlesbible.com/2009/12/01/nowhere-boy-screening-abbey-road-studios/)
Film review: http://www.beatlesbible.com/film-and-video/nowhere-boy/ (http://www.beatlesbible.com/film-and-video/nowhere-boy/)
Soundtrack: http://www.beatlesbible.com/albums/nowhere-boy-original-soundtrack/ (http://www.beatlesbible.com/albums/nowhere-boy-original-soundtrack/)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Mairi on December 02, 2009, 04:53:07 PM
Thanks for the info, Joe!
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Euan Buchan on December 05, 2009, 11:14:17 AM
Heres a video of a premire of it

LFF 2009 Videoblogisode Day 16: Nowhere Boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVGkD_QpSTw#normal)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: cutecub00 on December 11, 2009, 04:29:57 AM
Nowhere Boy has striking emotional depth, a spot-on sense of period, and a central performance of remarkable texture and nuance from newcomer Aaron Johnson.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Euan Buchan on December 14, 2009, 03:57:18 PM
The Website of the film

http://www.nowhereboymovie.com/ (http://www.nowhereboymovie.com/)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Euan Buchan on December 29, 2009, 08:03:49 PM
Went to see the film today, it's really good but sad
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Jane on December 29, 2009, 09:28:48 PM
Some people say it is a failure. I haven`t seen it yet.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Oomu on December 29, 2009, 09:46:09 PM
I'm absolutely dying to see this movie (whether it's good or not is irrelevant till I see it, heh) but I've looked for it at all my local theatres and not only is it not playing but there are no release dates listed at all...

If it doesn't play here I may have to kill something...
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Bobber on December 29, 2009, 10:10:50 PM
I'm absolutely dying to see this movie (whether it's good or not is irrelevant till I see it, heh) but I've looked for it at all my local theatres and not only is it not playing but there are no release dates listed at all...

If it doesn't play here I may have to kill something...

Premiere over here won't be until April 1st 2010.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Oomu on December 29, 2009, 10:14:54 PM
Premiere over here won't be until April 1st 2010.

Well, crap. I don't wanna wait that long.  :P But it's good to know that there's still hope...
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Jane on December 29, 2009, 10:35:40 PM
We are promised the film in January.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: alexis on December 30, 2009, 12:38:17 AM
Who was that Joe who got to go to Abbey Road studio 2 to see the film? Yikes!!
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Euan Buchan on December 30, 2009, 10:24:02 AM
It gave me a tear in my eye the soundtrack is superb though
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Eliza on January 17, 2010, 03:35:43 AM
The release date for me is January 27th which is my birthday it'll be a present for me
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Euan Buchan on February 08, 2010, 12:49:14 AM
It comes out on DVD on the 26th April
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Euan Buchan on February 22, 2010, 12:16:43 PM
Heres the cover of the DVD

(http://lennontribute1.zoomshare.com/files/nowhereboydvd.JPG)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: digna on February 22, 2010, 07:21:43 PM
Premiere over here won't be until April 1st 2010.


I'm going on the 29th of March
http://www.parool.nl/parool/nl/106/Parool/article/detail/279128/2010/02/13/Nowhere-Boy-A-night-with-John-Lennon.dhtml (http://www.parool.nl/parool/nl/106/Parool/article/detail/279128/2010/02/13/Nowhere-Boy-A-night-with-John-Lennon.dhtml)
:D
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Bobber on February 22, 2010, 10:03:35 PM
I'm going on the 29th of March
[url]http://www.parool.nl/parool/nl/106/Parool/article/detail/279128/2010/02/13/Nowhere-Boy-A-night-with-John-Lennon.dhtml[/url] ([url]http://www.parool.nl/parool/nl/106/Parool/article/detail/279128/2010/02/13/Nowhere-Boy-A-night-with-John-Lennon.dhtml[/url])
:D


Aha! Een speciale voorvertoning! ;D  Have fun.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Bobber on March 30, 2010, 07:53:41 AM
I read it won't be released in the US until October 8th, one day before John's 70th birthday.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Octie on April 01, 2010, 10:23:57 AM
My parents, KE and I went to see it last weekend. I thought it was quite good! We all liked it.
I prefer it to that other John Lennon film (whose name I've forgotten, sorry). The only problem I had was that I know the actor who played Paul so well as "the kid from Love Actually", so I had trouble seeing him as Paul. Not the actor's fault though... I thought all the actors did a great job 8) And quite cool how David Morrissey was in there 8)

It gave me a tear in my eye the soundtrack is superb though

It gave me multiple tears in my eyes :-[ had to wipe 'em off quickly before the lights came back on ;)
And I agree about the soundtrack 8)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Bobber on April 01, 2010, 01:51:52 PM
Remember it's not completely true.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: lunchpunch on April 01, 2010, 09:56:28 PM
It's released in the USA in theatres on October 8th.
Gah. I don't want to wait that long, i'm really interested in it.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Oh Pineapple on April 01, 2010, 09:58:16 PM
Dang, it needs to come out faster... D:
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: digna on April 02, 2010, 10:11:12 AM
I really liked the film!! :) I thought it would be more a documentary, but it was really a film :)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Sondra on April 02, 2010, 11:09:04 PM
So we don't get it over here til October? I guess that makes sense. Hope it's actually good. And realistic.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: cubanheel on April 05, 2010, 07:34:33 AM
The guy who plays John in the film was interviewed on Jonathan Ross (BBC) the other night, and I thought he seemed a bit ... well... 2 dimensional???! Haven't seen the film, waiting for DVD.  Reading back through the previous posts, am glad Kate Winslett was a red herring!! The casting for Julia and Mimi seem very good.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: HeyJude18 on April 05, 2010, 02:07:48 PM
So we don't get it over here til October? I guess that makes sense. Hope it's actually good. And realistic.

Really? I haven't seen any release date for Canada yet :(  Might have to find it online...
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kaleidoscope_Eyes on April 05, 2010, 10:24:33 PM
The casting for Julia and Mimi seem very good.
I agree. Julia especially.
Good casting overall, apart from Paul (oh it rhymed!)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Octie on April 10, 2010, 11:37:31 AM
Nowhere Boy got a good review in the paper today. It's quite rare when the paper's critics like something that I like ;)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kaleidoscope_Eyes on April 12, 2010, 11:08:23 PM
Nowhere Boy got a good review in the paper today. It's quite rare when the paper's critics like something that I like ;)
Or when they like something full stop
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: blackbird_ on April 22, 2010, 04:32:44 AM
Hmm, mixed thoughts.
I thought Paul and George's actors were very poorly chosen. And I really think they should have left out the bit where George is introduced. It just draws attention to the bad casting and it would have worked fine for him to just be in the later parts of the movie. I also disliked the scene where John is upset and starts openly sobbing in front of Mimi, and not really caring that he's doing so. It was very un-John in my opinion.
It was also very dramatized, probably to keep more mainstream audiences watching.
I really, really liked it, but the above problems irked me.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on April 22, 2010, 07:24:47 AM
. I also disliked the scene where John is upset and starts openly sobbing in front of Mimi, and not really caring that he's doing so. It was very un-John in my opinion.

I heard a radio interview where someone (can't remember who) said that during the "Bigger than Jesus" thing John broke down, put his head in his hands and openly sobbed. So it looks like John wasn't beyond a little crybaby action. Who isn't. We've all lost it, not always in the best place.  And it's not like John is some hard boy nerves-of- steel kind of man. C'mon, he's no Rock Hudson
Personally I can't see how you can reach a conclusion that that was "very un-John." In fact most things point to him being a rather nervous, sensitive (to criticism) kind-of-guy. I'm only guessing, but I can't imagine him being any less prone to emotional breakdown than most of us. Behind closed doors he could be as much Boy George as Claude Van Dam.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: blackbird_ on April 22, 2010, 02:07:13 PM
I heard a radio interview where someone (can't remember who) said that during the "Bigger than Jesus" thing John broke down, put his head in his hands and openly sobbed. So it looks like John wasn't beyond a little crybaby action. Who isn't. We've all lost it, not always in the best place.  And it's not like John is some hard boy nerves-of- steel kind of man. C'mon, he's no Rock Hudson
Personally I can't see how you can reach a conclusion that that was "very un-John." In fact most things point to him being a rather nervous, sensitive (to criticism) kind-of-guy. I'm only guessing, but I can't imagine him being any less prone to emotional breakdown than most of us. Behind closed doors he could be as much Boy George as Claude Van Dam.

I'm not saying he was necessarily a nerves-of-steel kind of man, just that according to Mimi when he was younger he wouldn't cry in front of her, he'd start laughing, disappear to his room and cry there. I don't see him crying in front of her at the age he was in the movie, that's all.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Bobber on May 17, 2010, 08:17:36 AM
For as long as it's there:

http://rapidshare.com/files/385324053/NB.part1.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/385324053/NB.part1.rar)

http://rapidshare.com/files/385299651/NB.part2.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/385299651/NB.part2.rar)

http://rapidshare.com/files/385310609/NB.part3.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/385310609/NB.part3.rar)

http://rapidshare.com/files/385292056/NB.part4.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/385292056/NB.part4.rar)

Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Bobber on May 25, 2010, 10:54:54 AM
Paul trying to make another point:

SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY has yet to watch JOHN LENNON biopic NOWHERE BOY - because he's "peeved" the actor playing his role is too short.

The film stars Kick-Ass' Aaron Johnson as Lennon, while Thomas Sangster portrays MCCartney in the story of the late Beatle's early years.

But MCCartney is not happy about the height difference between the onscreen pair - because he was just as tall as his Beatles bandmate in real life and insists movie bosses should have put Sangster in "platforms" to make up the extra inches.

He tells Britain's Seven magazine, "I haven't actually seen it, but I hear I'm OK in it. But you know what I'm slightly peeved about? My character, my actor, is shorter than John! And I don't like that. I'm the same size as John, please. Put John in a trench or put me in platforms!"
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Jane on May 26, 2010, 06:56:08 PM
I think Paul is right here! his argument is quite reasonable!
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: The Swine on May 26, 2010, 09:14:13 PM
I think Paul is right here! his argument is quite reasonable!

does it really matter?
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Kevin on May 27, 2010, 07:57:21 AM
Dunno. I think it gives us another nice insight into how the band really functioned, as opposed to the Band Of Brothers  of legend. Paul still rankles at being percieved as second fiddle to Lennon, while Lennon packs a sad at George for how many years because he doesn't get a mention in his book.
It would be easy to deduce that like The Stones, Or Pink Floyd, or The Beach Boys,  competition, rivalry, jealousy and even personal animosity creates better music than any hippy love-fest nonsense. Oh, and lots of drugs.
We worship at a very strange shrine.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: eroz0 on May 27, 2010, 12:20:42 PM
I think it gives an insight on how the press twists things to create headlines.

Paul was laughing when he made that comment. He was obviously joking. He probably did it to avoid giving a straight answer about the movie, which he doesn't particularly care for, judging from previous comments.
If I remember correctly, the director is a family friend and I guess he was trying to be diplomatic.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Jane on May 30, 2010, 07:07:46 PM
It gave me multiple tears in my eyes :-[ had to wipe 'em off quickly before the lights came back on ;)
And I agree about the soundtrack 8)

I`ve just seen the film. I LOVE IT! I really believe it is a very good (kind of drama) film. It got me crying through to the end: tears dropping... The film is very emotional, more so cause you know the story and can feel every episode of it. The guys played very well, though Paul looks funny, but resembles real young Paul.
The women are wonderful, both Mimi and Julia. The guy I was with, who is not a Beatles fan, liked the film too. He said: Great. Very good indeed.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: jhonnymarsh on July 10, 2010, 07:43:36 AM
Matt Greenhalgh, who won a BAFTA for his screenplay about the last years of Joy Division, Ian Curtis, is to focus the writing is a lonely teenager of the future Beatle, who was brought to his aunt after his mother abandoned authoritarian . The film titled Nowhere Boy, Lennon finds solace in his music, art and friendship with Paul McCartney.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: KelMar on April 16, 2011, 08:19:35 AM
I finally saw this. I still wonder about the accuracy but one thing is for sure; I bawled my eyes out during the tearful scene between John and Paul, after John decks him. If Paul really did offer that kind of emotional support it would have definitely been a defining moment in their friendship. Overall I liked it. The whole flirtatious mom bit was kind of weird but once she settled down it was better.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Normandie on April 16, 2011, 02:18:27 PM

I really liked this movie, more than I thought I would. The casting was excellent, I thought, except the Paul character really didn't seem to look much like Paul, IMO. But Mimi and Julia were almost exactly how I pictured them as they were in real life.

I makes me think of James Cameron's Titanic movie: You need to try to find actors who are talented enough for the part yet still resemble the real-life character, and that's gotta be difficult. And luckily, Nowhere Boy had no annoying fictitious subplot a la Jack and Rose (although I understand a movie solely about the Titanic would never have appealed to a mass audience.)

I thought both the casting and acting in Nowhere Boy were great. I felt like I was really witnessing part of John's childhood/teen years.

One thing I'm curious as to why they left out was Mimi's famous refrain "The guitar's all right for a hobby, John, but you'll never make any money with it." (I probably paraphrased that incorrectly, but you guys know what I mean!  ;) )


Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: nimrod on April 24, 2011, 01:36:20 PM
I watched Nowhere Boy last night and I was absolutely riveted to it, a superbly well made film getting the balance dead right I thought, both the main women in Johns young life were played superbly, as were the actors playing John & Paul.

Everything looked realistic to me, the guitars, clothes, vehicles etc

I cant recommend it enough. 9/10

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1266029/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1266029/)
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: AppleScruffy96 on April 24, 2011, 03:07:30 PM
I cried my eyes out when I watched this movie  ha2ha  ;yes it was very good.
Title: Re: Nowhere Boy
Post by: Mairi on May 15, 2011, 07:03:08 PM
I finally got around to watching this film and I really loved it. I thought it was a well-rounded portrait of John and his family.