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Beatles forums => Albums => Topic started by: stevie on November 05, 2009, 12:21:26 AM
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Hi guys. Ok, I could fairly say that this would be the least popular Beatle album?
Anyway, yesterday i was drving to pick up my daughter from school, and on a whim, decided to tak this CD. Hadn't listened to it for AGES!!
WOW, No Reply? how good is that song? You forget, don't you? Great song to sing along too, LOUD.
ok, skipped a few then 'side 2'... i don't want to spoil the party, yeah, not bad. then I listened properly to What You're Doing. some really nifty things goin' on in that song! little guitar fills in the BG.
it isn't funny how you can continually 'rediscover' the Beatles?
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ok, skipped a few then 'side 2'...
Lol, this is why its pretty much accepted as being their weakest (with Let It Be). lots of filler and covers. I know what you mean though, its good to break stuff out you havent heard in awhile and a lot of the times you come away with different opinions than you originally had.
then I listened properly to What You're Doing. some really nifty things goin' on in that song! little guitar fills in the BG.
Love the song but it honestly has one of the worst guitar solos in it ever. George hacked that one.
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I'm happy to hear you've rediscovered Beatles For Sale, stevie. I've always liked that album and regard it as a pivotal album for them. In many ways, Beatles For Sale heralded Rubber Soul.....
(http://www.stevesbeatles.com/vinyl/british/ep/covers/beatles_for_sale.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~thorobred7/BFS_RS.jpg)
(http://www.stevesbeatles.com/cds/album-covers/rubber_soul.jpg)
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I never noticed that those two photos were so similar!
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I think that the less popular album is Yellow Submarine, but anyway...
There's the same number of covers that in "Please, please me" and "With the beatles", but are better that them for me. "Kansas City", "Everybody's trying...", "Honey don't" and "Rock and roll music" blow my mind.
And you can find "No reply", "I'm a loser", "Baby's in black" or "Eight days a week". All of them could be a single.
And I love "What you're doing" too. The Paul's voice sound very, very "McCartney" here ha2ha
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Ahhh...'No Reply'; what a way to start an album! One of my favourites! One of my favourite albums too; a real changing point in sound, for me-really opens the door for the more 'mature' sounding Help!, and especially Rubber Soul. I'm not too bothered by the covers either, they're more in keeping with the overall sound of where Lennon & McCartney were going-to me!
But oh! 'No Reply'.......what a song! One of those I can just listen to over and over!
Cheers,
Steve.
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'No Reply' is kind of a neutral song for me. It annoys me if i hear it to often, but its decent every now and then.
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I've always had a soft spot for Beatles for Sale, so I was happy to come across this article today: https://americansongwriter.com/making-the-case-for-the-beatles-unheralded-1964-album-beatles-for-sale/ (https://americansongwriter.com/making-the-case-for-the-beatles-unheralded-1964-album-beatles-for-sale/)
Ahhh...'No Reply'; what a way to start an album!
Totally agree!
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I've always had a soft spot for Beatles for Sale...
Me too. As i mentioned all those years ago, in many ways Beatles For Sale heralded Rubber Soul.....
(https://i.postimg.cc/wjLj76W2/Beatles-For-Sale.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzhyGtHT/Beatles-For-Sale-Rubber-Soul.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3wZrFtQD/Rubber-Soul.jpg)
Rubber Soul has always been my favorite Beatles album.
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I think the originals on Beatles for Sale are great. No Reply is a terrific opener straight off the bat. And yes some of them could fit on Rubber Soul comfortably.
The covers are beginning to sound a bit like a throwback to their earlier years but they’re mostly still a good listen.
So I’m more than happy to throw BfS on the turntable (or streaming device)
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I think the originals on Beatles for Sale are great. No Reply is a terrific opener straight off the bat. And yes some of them could fit on Rubber Soul comfortably.
The covers are beginning to sound a bit like a throwback to their earlier years but they’re mostly still a good listen.
I agree on all these points. I prefer the originals on Beatles for Sale to the covers. The only original I've never been too keen on is What You're Doing. And I'm repeating myself, but yeah, No Reply is such a fantastic opener. One of the best off any album, in my opinion. :)
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The only original I've never been too keen on is What You're Doing.
It's reported that Paul wasn't too fond of this song either and described it as "filler." But he wrote the song alone and most likely Jane Asher was his muse.
I happen to like this song a lot because of its simplicity and similar personal experiences...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sba2LbhkVY# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sba2LbhkVY#)
Isolated studio instrumental tracks have been blocked but this fellow recreates the full instrumental perfectly...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRe0CS3GQiU# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRe0CS3GQiU#)
George Martin played piano in the studio.
And here are the isolated the isolated vocals...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBdnWgWfrus# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBdnWgWfrus#)
4:52
Maybe Paul has changed his mind about this song as his monthly newsletter is called "What's That You're Doing?"
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Oh, and here are some early takes during the What You're Doing and No Reply Sessions (29-30 September and 26 October 1964)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65gssFapBdo# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65gssFapBdo#)
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I’ve always liked What You’re Doing. Maybe not as weighty as No Reply or I’ll Follow the Sun but it’s got a nice feel.
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I think the originals on Beatles for Sale are great. No Reply is a terrific opener straight off the bat. And yes some of them could fit on Rubber Soul comfortably.
The covers are beginning to sound a bit like a throwback to their earlier years but they’re mostly still a good listen.
So I’m more than happy to throw BfS on the turntable (or streaming device)
I too play BFS quite often. It's an album that kind of annoys me though. On the one hand I think the originals are awesome, very awesome ! But I don't really like the covers. It annoys me that they had other original songs they could've worked on more put on BFS, but they needed an album out fast and covers it was.
As I say I put the originals on a par with Rubber Soul, Every Little Thing being my favourite, the refrain...."If I Were You, I'd Realize that I" to me is mind numbingly brilliant, those vocals of John & Paul send shivers down my spine.
I'm A Loser is one of John's first incredibly great songs imo.
Eight Days A Week should've been a single in the UK. A No 1 for sure.
After the high jinx of She Loves You, A Hard Days Night and I Wanna Hold Your Hand they became more subdued and introspective, more acoustic. Those songs are timeless.........
But I don't like the covers.
Love the cover though ;)
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Yeah, Beatles For Sale is a great album.
It's all the better because it's the album many people don't know very well.
And for UK listeners it's an album with no songs released as a single, so you never hear any of these songs on the radio.
The only tracks I don't like much are Mr Moonlight (that cheesy organ) and Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby (too much echo).
But all the rest along with the other covers is just fine.
And No Reply is one of the best opening songs to any Beatles album.
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The only tracks I don't like much are Mr Moonlight (that cheesy organ) and Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby (too much echo).
I guess I'm the only here who loves Mr. Moonlight. It's a very romantic song.
Paul's Hammond organ is an integral part of the recording. Most people only hear the organ solo but it's played through most of the song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzx3GqIFPW8# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzx3GqIFPW8#)
Okay, now I'm just waiting for nimrod to chime in about how bad the song is.
:)
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I guess I'm the only here who loves Mr. Moonlight.
You're not alone, Barry; I like it as well. But I think we are the only two. ;)
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I too play BFS quite often. It's an album that kind of annoys me though. On the one hand I think the originals are awesome, very awesome ! But I don't really like the covers. It annoys me that they had other original songs they could've worked on more put on BFS, but they needed an album out fast and covers it was.
As I say I put the originals on a par with Rubber Soul, Every Little Thing being my favourite, the refrain...."If I Were You, I'd Realize that I" to me is mind numbingly brilliant, those vocals of John & Paul send shivers down my spine.
I'm A Loser is one of John's first incredibly great songs imo.
Eight Days A Week should've been a single in the UK. A No 1 for sure.
After the high jinx of She Loves You, A Hard Days Night and I Wanna Hold Your Hand they became more subdued and introspective, more acoustic. Those songs are timeless.........
But I don't like the covers.
Love the cover though ;)
It sounded like they just ran out of time. Most of the covers were done in one day in one or two takes. Seems they just went with what they could play quickly to get it out for Christmas.
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You're not alone, Barry; I like it as well. But I think we are the only two. ;)
(https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/beatles-paul-mccartney-organ-piano.jpg?x50157)
Paul got Mr. Moonlight sounding right...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg0x5P6DAKA# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg0x5P6DAKA#)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZQ8nWZJrhA# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZQ8nWZJrhA#)
:)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/Ypmthds9/New-York-City-Pavillion.jpg)
The New York City Pavillion of the 1939 and 1964 World's Fair stayed on after the World's Fairs and had a ice skating rink with an organist. I took my first girlfriend there one evening. She was a very good skater with her own pair of figure skates replete with pom poms. Me, I had my own pair of hockey skates. After a little while, I asked her to wait where she was and skated over to the organist and asked him to play Mr. Moonlight. He smiled and said "Gladly."
What a great song to skate to arms around each other's waists! And those lyrics...
You came to me one summer night
And from your beam, you made my dream
And from the whirl, you sent my girl
And from above, you sent us love.
And now she is mine
I think you're fine
'Cause we love you
Mr. Moonlight.
What a night that was! She was a Beatles fan too and loved what i did.
I'm still waiting for nimrod to say what a crappy song this is. ;D
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The New York City Pavillion of the 1939 and 1964 World's Fair stayed on after the World's Fairs and had a ice skating rink with an organist. I took my first girlfriend there one evening. She was a very good skater with her own pair of figure skates replete with pom poms. Me, I had my own pair of hockey skates. After a little while, I asked her to wait where she was and skated over to the organist and asked him to play Mr. Moonlight. He smiled and said "Gladly."
What a great song to skate to arms around each other's waists! And those lyrics...
You came to me one summer night
And from your beam, you made my dream
And from the whirl, you sent my girl
And from above, you sent us love.
And now she is mine
I think you're fine
'Cause we love you
Mr. Moonlight.
What a night that was! She was a Beatles fan too and loved what i did.
I'm still waiting for nimrod to say what a crappy song this is. ;D
Haha nice story Baz. But I suspect you just wanted to get your arms around her waist ha2ha
Mr Moonlight isn't a bad song, but it shouldn't be on a Beatle album, they'd gone past covers by then. I feel exactly the same about Words Of Love & Everybody's Tryin To Be My Baby. Kansas City also.
Words Of Love achieves nothing over the original version.
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Haha nice story Baz. But I suspect you just wanted to get your arms around her waist ha2ha
Well, yes but don't you know that about twenty other couples did the same thing, Kev. We all applauded the organist at the end of that number.
As I said, it's a very romantic song. And it left me with fond memories of coming of age. :)
Mr Moonlight isn't a bad song...
Could it be that you're beginning to like Mr. Moonlight?
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The New York City Pavillion of the 1939 and 1964 World's Fair stayed on after the World's Fairs and had a ice skating rink with an organist. I took my first girlfriend there one evening. She was a very good skater with her own pair of figure skates replete with pom poms. Me, I had my own pair of hockey skates. After a little while, I asked her to wait where she was and skated over to the organist and asked him to play Mr. Moonlight. He smiled and said "Gladly."
What a great song to skate to arms around each other's waists! And those lyrics...
What a night that was! She was a Beatles fan too and loved what i did.
I'm still waiting for nimrod to say what a crappy song this is. ;D
It's a crappy song and The Beatles do a crappy version of it.
George's guitar solo idea, when fully worked out, wouldn't have saved the track but would have made it more tolerable.
But the song obviously brings back nice memories for you which is nice.
Myself I like Cry Like A Baby by the Box Tops. It's a pretty nothing song but it reminds me of my first girlfriend ...
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Could it be that you're beginning to like Mr. Moonlight?
roll:)
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Well, Kev, at least you admitted it isn't a bad song. ;D
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It's a crappy song and The Beatles do a crappy version of it.
George's guitar solo idea, when fully worked out, wouldn't have saved the track but would have made it more tolerable.
If you say so.
But the song obviously brings back nice memories for you which is nice.
I guess I'm just an incurable romantic.
Myself I like Cry Like A Baby by the Box Tops. It's a pretty nothing song but it reminds me of my first girlfriend ...
You should have treated her better. ;D
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I don't mind Mr Moonlight as a song but the way The Beatles did it was a bit rubbish imo.
That backing reminds me of those old organs that people had in their house with Bass & drums backing, sort of like some cabaret nightclub.. My Uncle Bob had one ;D
I think BFS could've been a hundred time better if they'd worked on their own songs like World Without Love, Thinking Of Linking and heaps of others instead of the covers.
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Paul liked the Hammond organ, Kev...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx_7xjpySK0# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx_7xjpySK0#)
So did Rick Wakeman...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nth2QPM0lQ4# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nth2QPM0lQ4#)