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Title: Bob Marley
Post by: Sondra on March 09, 2005, 05:33:01 AM
Just wondering what eveyone thinks of him. I love him. He was so freaking talented. His lyrics are amazing. It's sad that he died so young though. I've been singing Redemtion song all day. That and Cry Baby Cry. I've been alternating from Bob to the Beatles!
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Lenny Pane on March 09, 2005, 08:00:11 AM
i was into marley in my late teens, when i was heavily into smoking pot.. but i think i over played his music, and now i feel a little bored with it .. but even still he wrote some great songs...
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: tkitna on March 09, 2005, 08:13:46 AM
I'm not into that raggae stuff. It all sounds the same to me. My friend just recently burnt just about all the Bob Marley that ever existed and I had to ask him why. He didnt know because he doesnt listen to him either, but he said it just seemed like the right thing to do. Whatever!
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Kevin on March 09, 2005, 03:34:00 PM
Q magazine called him " a kind of black John Lennon" which sums him up quiet nicely.
It's the only reggae I can listen to.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: on March 09, 2005, 03:45:19 PM
yeah it's the only reggae i can listen to also...he's great
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on March 09, 2005, 07:59:35 PM
i think hes kinda overrated.  his music is a little bland
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Mairi on March 09, 2005, 11:00:27 PM
My dad likes his music, I think it's pretty good. I love Redemption Song. :)
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on March 10, 2005, 12:06:24 AM
Quote from: Herecomesyoursun
i think hes kinda overrated.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: lennonlemon on March 10, 2005, 12:12:57 AM
i like bob and although reggae isn't my thing i find interest in his music. redemption song has great lyrics and i really like no woman no cry.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: adamzero on March 10, 2005, 02:20:50 AM
Bob Marley overrated?  What kind of crazy talk is that?  Listen to "Exodus"--or even the early stuff.  He was no black John Lennon, he was black Bob Marley (actually mixed race with an irish father).  I'd say that "No Woman No Cry" is a better song on the same subject as "In My Life" (which won some kind of stupid poll of best song of all time).  

"My feet is my only carriage . . ."  

Bob had trenchtown street cred that puts JL's middle-class teddy-boy Menlove Ave. background to shame.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on March 10, 2005, 02:24:01 AM
i dont care about his street cred.  i just find that hes kind of overrated as a sort of representative of stoner music, when i find some* of his music rather bland.  he does have many great songs tho.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on March 10, 2005, 02:46:40 AM
no woman no cry better than In My Life??????? what are you doing in these forums?? ohk, nvmnd, you probably jsut dont like In My Life that much, I shouldnt be judging you all because you dont like 1 great beatle song that much..
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Sondra on March 10, 2005, 05:38:15 AM
Quote from: Herecomesyoursun
i dont care about his street cred.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on March 10, 2005, 05:41:04 AM
maybe its just the reggae that gets to me
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Sondra on March 10, 2005, 05:45:14 AM
Maybe. You can't get into No Woman No Cry or Get Up Stand Up, Stir it Up, or Redemption Song? How 'bout the original I Shot the Sheriff??? Oh well, we all have different tastes.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on March 10, 2005, 05:47:43 AM
No i like all those songs.  Its just Marley seems to be on a pedestal with an image, and i dont think his music backs that image up
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Sondra on March 10, 2005, 05:53:04 AM
Well, it's sort of like Lennon and his pedestal. When you die young, that tends to happen. But Marley wrote some great songs and created some great music. So I think it's okay to put him up there. He's a one of a kind thing.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: on March 10, 2005, 05:53:43 AM
Man, just because the ganja is part of the Rasta culture, doesn't make it stoner music. It was music made by poor black people that got gobbled up by white kids to get baked to. It was very political, very much about oppression, because down in Jamaica you have the 'Really haves' and the 'Really have nots'. Trenchtown is a very violent part of Kingston and Kingston ain't friendly at all.  Bob Marley's music might be tired to some people now because everyone has the 'Legend' CD and has heard it ad nauseum, but do some digging--Kaya, Natty Dread, and Exodus are excellent and are worth a listen. If you don't like Reggae music, then never mind this post. We all have our different tastes, but he was very important.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on March 10, 2005, 05:55:39 AM
alright i will try to check out more stuff by him (your right all i have is the Legend)
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Sondra on March 10, 2005, 06:00:01 AM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
Man, just because the ganja is part of the Rasta culture, doesn't make it stoner music. It was music made by poor black people that got gobbled up by white kids to get baked to. It was very political, very much about oppression, because down in Jamaica you have the 'Really haves' and the 'Really have nots'. Trenchtown is a very violent part of Kingston and Kingston ain't friendly at all.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 10, 2005, 06:17:47 AM
I gotta say Bob is up there in the scheme of music. His lyrics are often at biblical proportions, with great humankind sentiments. His use of Rhodes, hammond and the reggae thing has made him a very influential artist all around the world. He is almost as popular an icon as Lennon in terms of 'posters on the wall' and 'political message' in the UK and possibly Europe.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Lenny Pane on March 10, 2005, 06:30:35 AM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
Man, just because the ganja is part of the Rasta culture, doesn't make it stoner music. .

hahahahah roflmfgdao omfg.. i cannot believe i just read that  :o

Marley = stoner music dood .. how you can sit there and type what you just said is ludicrous.. no matter what culture you come from ..  smoking pot and listening to marley is like having a cup of tea and a cigerette.. even better on a sunny afternoon with a few beers ... how can so many people be wrong..... and my question is .. have you JF ever been a long term pot or weed smoker and sat down and listen to some marley ? my guess is that you havent...............................................................
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Sondra on March 10, 2005, 06:35:22 AM
Dude, Marley reaches people on different levels. You don't have to be stoned to dig his music. The whole Jamaican ganga thing is a stereotype. But yeah, you can lite up and enjoy his music. Just like you can with any other bands of that era. BTW, what time is it there??? I'm trying to figure out if it's a 7 hour or 8 hour difference.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Lenny Pane on March 10, 2005, 06:39:24 AM
its 6:30am sandra..

well it seems that everyone has their opinions on this .. so im not gonna get into a debate about it .. :)
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Sondra on March 10, 2005, 06:46:43 AM
Thanks. 7 hours then. Yeah, everyone's got their opinions. I think it's cool to debate, but not argue. I see what you mean about Marley's music. It sort of gives out that vibe. (kinda like Floyd) I don't mean to contradict you or anything. Just saying what I think. I listen to Marley all the time when I'm straight that's all.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Kevin on March 10, 2005, 08:18:17 AM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
Man, just because the ganja is part of the Rasta culture, doesn't make it stoner music. .

To say you have to be stoned to listen to Marley is rubbish.
It works just as good on pills :)
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on March 10, 2005, 02:38:30 PM
Redemption Songs and Jammin are my favorite Bob songs...Roots,Rock,Reggae isawesome too
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Kevin on March 10, 2005, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm

I don't smoke pot anymore, but I used to smoke for many many years. Didn't need reggae to enjoy my buzz. You don't need to be high to listen to Bob Marley, that's just your pinheadedness. What I said isn't ludicrous, maybe to a an idiot like you. Do you have to drink Jack Daniels to listen to Sinatra? No. Or rum to listen to Jimmy Buffet? No. You are a sheep.

Sorry, but can't some of you guys disagree without turning nasty. I don't want to be on a site where all we say is how nice The Beatles are.
But we needs some Rules of Engagement. I like a good discussion, but not if they turn out like this.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: on March 10, 2005, 03:43:08 PM
Quote from: Mr_Kite

hahahahah roflmfgdao omfg.. i cannot believe i just read that
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 10, 2005, 04:24:29 PM
Who's Jimmy Buffet???
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: Kevin on March 10, 2005, 05:18:20 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
Who's Jimmy Buffet???

I think he fell off a Cliff
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: adamzero on March 11, 2005, 12:05:28 AM
"In my Life" isn't even the best song John Lennon wrote--I don't know why it won that stupid poll.  "No Woman No Cry" is a superior song because it's more resonant--more particular images (black wood burning through the night, govt yard at Trenchtown, etc.).  "In my life" is frustratingly general (places I remember, etc.).  Why not just name them?  For what it's worth, I think Van Morrison's whole album "Astral Weeks" does this better than "In my life" or "No woman no cry".

You can still love and admire the Beatles without thinking that every song of theirs is better than everyone else's.  

Because there's no competition, really.  That's one thing that intrigues me about these boards and the beatle-fans.  How exclusive and protective and fanatic the posters can be.  Why do the Beatles elicit this kind of idolatry?  
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on March 11, 2005, 03:16:55 AM
In My Life is 100Xs better
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: on March 11, 2005, 03:36:22 AM
Quote from: adamzero

You can still love and admire the Beatles without thinking that every song of theirs is better than everyone else's.
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: adamzero on March 11, 2005, 10:59:10 PM
Good point, Junior.  I guess my real beef is with that poll not with any of the songs.  I prefer "Penny Lane" "Strawberry Fields" as songs to "In My Life" which has a beautiful melody and a great vocals but less evocative lyrics.  I like your comparison of color to b-w, maybe that's the best way to think of the difference.  

I think people see "In My Life" as the pinnacle of the Beatles youth and initial artistic growth or something.  I just can't figure out why it won that poll (was it Q or Mojo or Rolling Stone?)

I don't think Beatles fans are sheep--not the ones of this site anyway.  More like sheepdogs.  
Title: Re: Bob Marley
Post by: on March 12, 2005, 05:45:08 AM
That's the problem with the polls people post, there's only a handful of songs or albums or whatever, and like you, they usually don't include the one that I would have chosen, they're pretty limited.