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Title: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Xose on March 09, 2013, 04:48:58 PM
Just for comparison, TTWY lead guiar evolution:

Decca, 1 January 1962:

http://youtu.be/BPfzQWpQCpM (http://youtu.be/BPfzQWpQCpM)

Star Club, 28 December 1962:

http://youtu.be/ZKRU_nvrybc (http://youtu.be/ZKRU_nvrybc)

BBC, 1 June 1963:

http://youtu.be/1YGLV4_plbA (http://youtu.be/1YGLV4_plbA)

Xosé
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Xose on March 09, 2013, 04:50:03 PM
30 July 1963 with no vocal:

http://youtu.be/oQtmhzTqMRg (http://youtu.be/oQtmhzTqMRg)

Xosé
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 09, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
And the released version with vocals    18 and 30 July 1963...

The Beatles - Till There Was You (2009 Stereo Remaster) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRkkmvfGTos#)




The Beatles recorded only one Broadway show tune and they picked one of the prettiest love songs written...

The Music Man Shirley Jones "Till There Was You" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLDsLeVxOaU#)
Meredith Willson    "The Music Man"
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Xose on March 09, 2013, 11:35:42 PM
Thank you, HG!! ;)

But the version released on 18 July 1963 was played with two electric guitars plus drums. I heard that version time ago, but I can't locate it on YouTube... :(

Best!! ;)

Xosé
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 10, 2013, 12:17:08 AM
Quote from: Xose on March 09, 2013, 11:35:42 PM
Thank you, HG!! ;)

But the version released on 18 July 1963 was played with two electric guitars plus drums. I heard that version time ago, but I can't locate it on YouTube... :(

Best!! ;)

Xosé

I listed the recording dates, not the release date Xosé.  The same no vocal version you (and I) posted above, but with vocals added. 
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 10, 2013, 12:23:30 AM
The electric versions I remember are:

The Beatles Till There Was You (Live At The Royal Variety Performance) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUUUJLaSNOs#ws)


Till There Was You, The Beatles (Live In Washington, D.C. 1964) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hna0B0XDcA#)
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Xose on March 10, 2013, 12:26:48 AM
Yes, they are...

But there are also at least two tales from the 18 July 1963 session at Abbey Road Studio 2. Unfortunately, i can't find them... :(

Thanks anyway for your help!! ;)

Xosé
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 10, 2013, 12:34:57 AM
Quote from: Xose on March 10, 2013, 12:26:48 AM
But there are also at least two tales from the 18 July 1963 session at Abbey Road Studio 2. Unfortunately, i can't find them... :(


Well, maybe they're still around somewhere, Xosé.

Meanwhile, here's some good music to search by...


Paul McCartney - Till There Was You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJaap5XwiPA#)
Fall 2005
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 10, 2013, 12:40:57 AM
The Beatles 1st Ed Sullivan Performance (REMASTERED) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHuRusAlw-Y#ws)
The Ed Sullivan Show   9 February 1964
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Xose on March 10, 2013, 09:25:17 AM
Excellent... Thank you very much, HG!! ;)

Maybe other members could help to find those takes...

Best!! ;)

Xosé
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 11, 2013, 07:19:44 PM
Xosé, I went back to Mark Lewisohn's The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions: The Official Story of the Abbey Road Years.  The entry for 18 July 1963 indicates three takes, two of which were complete.  The entry for 30 July 1963 indicates Till There Was You remade with Ringo playing bongos as Sir George Martin felt the full drum set on the previous takes was a bit overpowering.  With just this information available, it would appear that the takes on 18 July were with John and George playing acoustic guitars if drums on those takes were indeed obtrusive.

I don't have any bootlegs of these recording sessions and I'm not sure if any exist.  But I'd be curious to hear a studio electric take of this song from this period.
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 11, 2013, 07:22:01 PM
Meanwhile, Paul liked Peggy Lee's 1961 version and based his arrangement on it...


Peggy Lee - Till There Was You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9pgxT4bkhg#)
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 11, 2013, 07:47:06 PM
The Music Man

76 Trombones - Music Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBQWsBiM5YY#ws)

Music and lyrics by Meredith Willson


(http://www.masterworksbroadway.com/sites/broadwaymw/files/photos/WILSON_Meredith_phA.jpg)

(http://www.mchs62.org/images/MWillson1.jpg)
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Bobber on March 11, 2013, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: Xose on March 10, 2013, 12:26:48 AM

But there are also at least two tales from the 18 July 1963 session at Abbey Road Studio 2. Unfortunately, i can't find them... :(


Not known to exist.
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Xose on March 12, 2013, 11:32:05 AM
Quote from: Bobber on March 11, 2013, 10:13:12 PM
Not known to exist.

Yes, I was probably wrong...

Thank you, Bobber!! ;)

Xosé
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 12, 2013, 05:51:51 PM
Xosé, I found a video of this performance where Ringo played tambourine on Till There Was You...


"The Beatles Come To Town" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg30UGVxtFU#ws)
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Dcazz on March 14, 2013, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: Hello Goodbye on March 10, 2013, 12:40:57 AM
The Beatles 1st Ed Sullivan Performance (REMASTERED) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHuRusAlw-Y#ws[/url])
The Ed Sullivan Show   9 February 1964
Awsome show! They were flawless!
I'm curious as to the dedication bettween sets. Does anyone know or remember what that was about?
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 14, 2013, 07:24:41 PM
Quote from: Dcazz on March 14, 2013, 03:53:01 PM
I'm curious as to the dedication bettween sets. Does anyone know or remember what that was about?


Dave, this article from the June 5, 2012 New York Times explains it all:  http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A07EED81031F936A35755C0A9649D8B63 (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A07EED81031F936A35755C0A9649D8B63)
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Dcazz on March 15, 2013, 02:35:43 AM
Quote from: Hello Goodbye on March 14, 2013, 07:24:41 PM
Dave, this article from the June 5, 2012 New York Times explains it all:  [url]http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A07EED81031F936A35755C0A9649D8B63[/url] ([url]http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A07EED81031F936A35755C0A9649D8B63[/url])
Thank you for that little tidbit of info.
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 15, 2013, 03:44:56 PM
Quote from: Dcazz on March 15, 2013, 02:35:43 AM
Thank you for that little tidbit of info.


Randy Paar was in The Ed Sullivan Show audience that night.

The Beatles appeared on TV in the United States a month before, on The Jack Paar Show, January 3, 1964...


Beatles on Jack Parr Show BEFORE Sullivan Clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCnENAj2jhs#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Dcazz on March 25, 2013, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: Hello Goodbye on March 15, 2013, 03:44:56 PM
Randy Paar was in The Ed Sullivan Show audience that night.

The Beatles appeared on TV in the United States a month before, on The Jack Paar Show, January 3, 1964...


Beatles on Jack Parr Show BEFORE Sullivan Clip ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCnENAj2jhs#noexternalembed-ws[/url])
I didn't know that either!
Title: Re: Till There Was You solo
Post by: Bobber on May 14, 2013, 07:37:35 PM
Quote from: Dcazz on March 25, 2013, 12:21:39 PM
I didn't know that either!

You should play DM's Beatles Quiz more often!