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Title: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on April 27, 2005, 11:59:21 AM
The Paul Is Dead Story and the 'Clues'

The Paul Is Dead rumor started with a series of events in the 1960s that led fans of the popular rock band The Beatles to believe that bassist Paul McCartney was actually dead and replaced with a look-alike. McCartney remains alive, as of 2005.

The rumor began in earnest in 1969, when Russ Gibb, a radio DJ from WKNR-FM in Detroit, Michigan, announced that McCartney was dead. Other DJs, television news reporters, newspapers, and magazines picked up on the story and began to look for clues.

The rumor eventually became a full-fledged conspiracy theory as members of the media and Beatles fans searched album artwork and song lyrics for clues to the cover-up and McCartney's supposed death. Believers eventually decided that McCartney had died in a car accident that happened at 5 a.m. on a Wednesday morning (the time and day, mentioned in the song "She's Leaving Home"), and that "he hadn't noticed that the lights had changed" ("A Day in the Life") because he was busy watching the pretty girl on the sidewalk ("Lovely Rita"). According to believers, McCartney had been replaced with the winner of a McCartney look-alike contest. The name of this look-alike has been recorded as both William Campbell and William Shears. Though it has been denied by all four members numerous times, many fans are convinced that the rumor was a hoax perpetrated deliberately by the Beatles as a joke. The rumor has been exhaustively examined in the book Turn Me On, Dead Man: The Beatles and the "Paul-Is-Dead" Hoax by Andru J. Reeve, the latest edition released in October 2004.

Other alleged clues included:
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 27, 2005, 12:30:33 PM
Great read, cheers Al ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bruno on April 27, 2005, 01:54:48 PM
great post Alan :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on April 27, 2005, 04:47:11 PM
Ta ;D

I was bored during my lunch-break!! ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on April 28, 2005, 05:15:07 PM
 ;Dhehe

good post anyway
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Indica on April 28, 2005, 05:57:51 PM
The Rubber Soul cover theory..how weak! made me chuckle :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: lennonlemon on April 28, 2005, 09:48:47 PM
i must agree with indy. who knows what the hell they were looking at?

personally, the paul is dead theory stuff is good for a laugh, but never something i'd believe and take seriously. i mean, you can take any small detail and distort it into a "clue." my favorite one was always the last one mentioned regarding his solo work.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on April 29, 2005, 11:11:36 AM
It's the very last comment that I agree with the most!

Quote from: The_End
it is usually a joke itself among Beatles fans.

Here's a question for everyone - has a conspiracy theory ever been proved to be correct? I can't think of one. Maybe Bay of Pigs?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on April 29, 2005, 11:04:13 PM
the best one is the bass drum on Sgt Pepper. If anyone hasn't seen it, I can post it.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on April 30, 2005, 04:07:59 AM
A couple that were left out:

--The intruments the Beatles are holding are all marching band instruments except Paul's which is an oboe.

--On the back cover of Pepper, their hands make different letters: George is 'L'; John is 'V'; Ringo is 'E'. The only letter missing in the word 'love' is 'O' because Campbell's back is to the camera, and Paul is the only Beatle who doesn't have the letter 'O' in his name.

--On the back of Abbey Road, next to the passing girl, the shadow looks like a skull.

--There are a pair of skeleton hands grabbing Paul in one of the pictures on the White Album poster.  The list goes on.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on April 30, 2005, 04:16:42 AM
I also heard a guy give a lecture on it once and he said toward the end of 'Gently Weeps' that George is singing 'Paul Paul'.

There was also the deal with their name being a phone number. The first three letters like they're spelled out on Magical Mystery Tour are 834, which is also the time on the board in the MMT booklet behind John the mustachioed ticket man. Supposedly someone called the number and there was a message saying "You're getting closer".
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on April 30, 2005, 04:19:43 AM
(http://img243.echo.cx/img243/6333/copyofioneix6xx.th.jpg) (http://img243.echo.cx/my.php?image=copyofioneix6xx.jpg)

11/9 he die. The Stupid Bloody Tuesday.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 30, 2005, 12:41:39 PM
They could have been a bit more subtle. lol
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: SieLiebtDich on May 08, 2005, 03:27:42 AM
XD good one Alan hehehe
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Harrison on May 08, 2005, 03:57:08 AM
I love reading about these.  The whole Paul is dead theory is just a fun thing to make stuff up for.  Has anyone read the article about this on www.iamthebeatles.com?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Rowdy on May 08, 2005, 12:53:46 PM
I could've sworn Paul died after "Back To The Egg"............but then he released "Flaming Pie"......
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on May 16, 2005, 11:59:03 AM
Here's another clue for you all.... I have updated my post with all your new 'clues'! Got any more?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on May 16, 2005, 11:44:03 PM
Here is a great site LOADS of pics and some great 'clues'!

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/opd/home.html
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on May 17, 2005, 01:42:32 AM
Quote from: The_End
Here is a great site LOADS of pics and some great 'clues'!

[url]http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/opd/home.html[/url]



Man, just when you think things can't get any more far fetched, there's always more.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on May 17, 2005, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
Man, just when you think things can't get any more far fetched, there's always more.

The good thing about that site though is that it has compiled all the available 'clues' and just lets people decide for themselves.

By the way, I added your clues to my original post - hope you don't mind!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on May 18, 2005, 12:16:43 AM
Quote from: The_End

The good thing about that site though is that it has compiled all the available 'clues' and just lets people decide for themselves.

By the way, I added your clues to my original post - hope you don't mind!

No, of course not, I'm flattered. One more thing, if I might: To those who argue the 28IF clue--yes, he'd have been 27, but 'Paul Is Dead' theorists counter that, in some Indian cultures, you are given an extra year for time spent in the womb, ergo 28 years old.

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on May 18, 2005, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
To those who argue the 28IF clue--yes, he'd have been 27, but 'Paul Is Dead' theorists counter that, in some Indian cultures, you are given an extra year for time spent in the womb, ergo 28 years old.

Yeah, I remember reading that too.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on August 16, 2005, 12:58:08 AM
What does "Paul is Dead because the King is Naked" mean?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on August 30, 2005, 09:51:50 PM
anybody?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on September 26, 2005, 02:31:12 PM
I read today that experts (not familiar with Paul's work) have taken a closer look at McCartney's paintings. He seems to use a lot of red paint. The experts thought it might have something to do with 'blood'. And of course, thinking further, they figured out that the painter might not be the one we think he is.
Now, that's what we've got experts for...
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on September 27, 2005, 08:39:51 AM
Found the article:

ART CRITICS RECONSIDER 'McCARTNEY IS DEAD' MYTH    
 
 
New York's top art critics are refuelling the rock 'n' roll myth that PAUL McCARTNEY died over three decades ago - after taking a rare close-up view of his paintings.

Top Big Apple celebrity art expert BAIRD JONES staged a one-night exhibition of JOHN LENNON and McCartney art from his own personal collection at New York club Deep earlier this month (15SEP05) and was left stunned by the reactions of his "austere" friends.

A fan of McCartney's art for years, Jones admits it took the opinions of his critical pals to make him realise that the 'Paul is dead' rumours that started in the late 1960s could be true.

He explains, "There were lots of questions about why he (McCartney) predominantly uses the colour red in ways one would not. It's the colour of blood and death.

"The critics were asking questions like, 'Why is there so much red in the garden (painting) and on the beach (painting)? It's macabre.' Call it art psychoanalysis, but the 'Paul is dead' rumour has started to spread.

"These were highbrow, austere people who take their art seriously. Some had never really had the chance to see McCartney's art up close."

Jones now claims there are major clues in McCartney's art that suggest the rocker might not be what he seems to be.

He explains, "It's one more sign that this man is communicating something. Red has been a dominant colour of his for some time.

"It might be evidence that the Paul McCartney we think we know is not Paul McCartney; he's an imposter - and here's a signal."

 
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on September 27, 2005, 10:35:59 AM
Red just might mean he supports Liverpool Football Club!!!! lol...Although I believe he is apparantly neutral when it comes to supporting football.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on September 27, 2005, 10:48:47 AM
I thought he was supporting the blues of Liverpool, Everton?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on September 27, 2005, 11:03:33 AM
Tell me it's not true!!! lol
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on September 27, 2005, 11:09:18 AM
Found this. Sorry, it is true. From a site naming famous Everton-fans

Sir Paul McCartney (Musician)

The loveable Mop Top from the world's greatest group once penned "Can't Buy Me Love. No. No. No. Noooo" That may be true but he could of bought us a new f**king ground. When Macca is not creosoting his bird's leg or getting beaten at Twister by Lady McCartney-Mills, Sir Paul loves nothing more than sitting back, lighting up a spliff and watching old Everton DVD's. Paul may "..believe in Yesterday" but today's Blues team ain't half bad either!

Check out: http://www.bluekipper.com/toffee_celebs/1.htm
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on September 27, 2005, 11:24:59 AM
Nah! It's propaganda!!!!!!! lol

Heres mine!!!

http://football.guardian.co.uk/news/theknowledge/0,9204,1104898,00.html

The answer, James, is ambiguous at best. The Beatles were never regulars at either Anfield or Goodison Park - so it really depends on which titbit of folklore you choose to swallow.
Let's keep it a mystery please. lol
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on September 27, 2005, 11:30:02 AM
This so-called Liverpudlian doesn't like football? There's another proof that this is not the real Paul McCartney, but an American stand-in.  ;D

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on September 27, 2005, 11:40:09 AM
Heheheheheh!!!!!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on September 27, 2005, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: Bobber
This so-called Liverpudlian doesn't like football? There's another proof that this is not the real Paul McCartney, but an American stand-in.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on September 27, 2005, 04:48:58 PM
^Don't tell Frightwolf!!! lol
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on September 27, 2005, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: The_End

Blimey, that is THE clue of the century - and it was SO glaringly obvious! I have just converted to Paulisdeadism! ;D

I've noted elsewhere on the board that there's a famous picture of the Beatles, taken in 1962 or '63, with Paul holding a cigarette in his RIGHT hand. That means he was already dead in 1963! Now, how's that for a clue.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on September 29, 2005, 07:39:13 PM
Here are some photo comparisons I've made because...

ummmm....

I'd rather not say. :P

http://img221.echo.cx/img221/2302/63wa0se.gif
http://img234.exs.cx/img234/852/slamdunk.gif
http://img121.exs.cx/img121/6044/64686eo.gif
http://img143.echo.cx/img143/69/stillthesame7pk.gif
http://img18.exs.cx/img18/592/Paul_is_Paul_83828483.gif
http://img86.exs.cx/img86/7656/LIB.gif
http://img83.exs.cx/img83/8663/60s90s.gif
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/4695/frightys2kw.gif
http://img248.echo.cx/img248/6355/huh0eo.gif
http://img97.echo.cx/img97/3629/6467a9fk.gif
http://img232.echo.cx/img232/595/space24rk.gif
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on September 30, 2005, 11:01:03 AM
This Billy Shears and Paul really look a lot alike.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on September 30, 2005, 11:22:04 AM
Quote from: KHAN
Here are some photo comparisons I've made because...

ummmm....

I'd rather not say. :P

[url]http://img221.echo.cx/img221/2302/63wa0se.gif[/url]
[url]http://img234.exs.cx/img234/852/slamdunk.gif[/url]
[url]http://img121.exs.cx/img121/6044/64686eo.gif[/url]
[url]http://img143.echo.cx/img143/69/stillthesame7pk.gif[/url]
[url]http://img18.exs.cx/img18/592/Paul_is_Paul_83828483.gif[/url]
[url]http://img86.exs.cx/img86/7656/LIB.gif[/url]
[url]http://img83.exs.cx/img83/8663/60s90s.gif[/url]
[url]http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/4695/frightys2kw.gif[/url]
[url]http://img248.echo.cx/img248/6355/huh0eo.gif[/url]
[url]http://img97.echo.cx/img97/3629/6467a9fk.gif[/url]
[url]http://img232.echo.cx/img232/595/space24rk.gif[/url]


Aha, this PROVES Paul is dead because in most of those pictures his hair changes and he is wearing different clothes!!!

Seriously though, thanks for sharing Khan! ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on October 01, 2005, 04:24:52 AM
Here's another clue for you all :D


(http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9513/paultofaul7jl.gif)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 22, 2006, 09:40:15 AM
Paul's wearing a Liverpool FC rosette on this one:

(http://www.nemsworld.com/beatles/md/m1_07.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: adamzero on March 23, 2006, 02:11:44 AM
And John's got a coke can that you opened with a church key.

Perhaps a little hungover?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Indica on March 23, 2006, 10:09:04 PM
they should bring back them sort of cans ^
It's wierd, pictures like that could be taken now - it's only products  - for instance,  the can of coke that shows how dated it really is.

A world way before my time :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Sondra on March 24, 2006, 02:14:29 AM
Quote from: Bobber
Paul's wearing a Liverpool FC rosette on this one:

([url]http://www.nemsworld.com/beatles/md/m1_07.jpg[/url])


Omg, I've never seen that pic from that photo session! I love it! Except Paul looks like he's wearing a wig. I've never seen those kind of cans before. Cool. I've heard of a church key, but I have no idea what one actually is. I know what a skate key is, but not a church key. Cool pic anyway, thanks Bobber!!!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 24, 2006, 07:43:57 AM
Of course Paul's wearing a wig. It's not really him, remember. Anyway, more pics like this are to be found here: http://www.nemsworld.com/beatles/
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on March 26, 2006, 12:59:45 AM
Quote from: Bobber
Paul's wearing a Liverpool FC rosette on this one:

([url]http://www.nemsworld.com/beatles/md/m1_07.jpg[/url])



You can't see it very well, but Paul wears the same Liverpool FC rosette in this pic too:

(http://www.nemsworld.com/beatles/md/m3_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: adamzero on March 27, 2006, 03:10:08 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
I've heard of a church key, but I have no idea what one actually is. I know what a skate key is, but not a church key. Cool pic anyway, thanks Bobber!!!


They preceeded the pop-top.  Amazing that it took that long for the pop-top to be invented.  I guess American have always liked the old do-it-yourself approach.

(http://www.aecom.yu.edu/aif/gallery/20021101/images/church_key.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Sondra on March 28, 2006, 01:59:15 AM
That's a church key?? I've used one my entire life and never heard anyone call it that. It's usually bottle or can opener. You still need those to open up tomato sauce cans or Corona beer bottles. At least that's my two uses for it.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: adamzero on April 01, 2006, 06:52:46 PM
Apparently you can also use it to open a church. ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 02, 2006, 12:51:46 PM
http://james-paul-mccartney.5u.com/show-case.html
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kate on April 04, 2006, 05:43:45 AM
quite amusing to read about all those 'clues'.
Paul is Paul is Paul and a hoax is a hoax is a hoax
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f243/1cass/Pauly.gif)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on April 04, 2006, 11:29:08 AM
Quote from: Kate
quite amusing to read about all those 'clues'.
Paul is Paul is Paul and a hoax is a hoax is a hoax

I totally agree - but it's fascinating stuff!!! ;D

It's amazing to think that many people actually believe this crap!!! LOL! ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 04, 2006, 01:15:48 PM
Quote from: The_End
...
It's amazing to think that many people actually believe this crap!!! LOL! ;D

Crap? Which crap? Paul is dead, isn't him?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kate on April 04, 2006, 02:04:21 PM
yes, raxo, Paul is dead, infact he's doing a 'See-the-Dead-Tour' this year  ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 04, 2006, 02:27:51 PM
Quote from: Kate
yes, raxo, Paul is dead, infact he's doing a 'See-the-Dead-Tour' this year  ;D

Oh, it has to be that ... the thing I've heard, I mean ... so he's with the Grateful, isn't him? ... that's what I call a DeadLine-Up ...
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on April 05, 2006, 08:48:33 PM
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7996/sonofgameover2px.gif)

(http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/4237/piddersslamdunk3fi.gif)

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6841/comp642ap.jpg)


(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2249/64rs682yk.gif)


(http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/3114/apple629ds.gif)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on April 06, 2006, 11:50:40 AM
I'm so glad MY head doesn't do that!!! ;D

(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7996/sonofgameover2px.gif)

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 06, 2006, 12:24:19 PM
Quote from: The_End
I'm so glad MY head doesn't do that!!! ;D

([url]http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7996/sonofgameover2px.gif[/url])



 :-/ ... but mine does ... hand-over ...  8)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: adamzero on April 06, 2006, 02:41:13 PM
The pictures of the toothy Paul are kinda scary.  Maybe he's a vampire.  
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 14, 2006, 10:16:51 PM
Who buried Paul McCartney?

http://www.cinema.nl/cinema/mediaplayer/index.jsp?media=24021121&refernr=23997369&portalnr=3142294&hostname=www.cinema.nl&portalid=cinema
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kate on April 17, 2006, 11:45:20 AM
so far the best clues I found....really start to believe it now...;D

Paul is dead clues[/u] (http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: adamzero on April 18, 2006, 02:50:21 AM
Awesome site, Kate!

It's in the eyes.  Faul's are narrower, beadier.  He's probably a reptilian.  Those boys at EMI were deep into top secret military projects.  Music was just a sideline-until they realized that it was a great method of mass hypnosis.  

The real Paul tried to blow the cover on whole thing and had an "accident."  Then Faul moved in and took over the band.  Yoko was recruited through a Japanese spy ring to get John hooked on heroin and take him out of the picture.  She brainwashed him with the silly "peace" initiatives, in the hopes that we'd let our guard down so that the reptilians could conquer us without the threat of nukes.  

Faul must have also had some kind of onboard drumming program--which is why he started pestering Ringo about the looseness and swing of his drumming.  

Remember, beware the buckyballs . . . .
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 18, 2006, 03:25:07 AM
Reptilians? lol...You been reading David Icke? hehehe
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on April 18, 2006, 12:02:08 PM
Quote from: Kate
so far the best clues I found....really start to believe it now...;D

Paul is dead clues[/u] ([url]http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/[/url])


What a sad waste of time - I feel sorry for the guy (if it's a guy) who sat there all those hours and came up with that.

Paul McCartney is Viv Stanshall (of the Bonzos) AND Neil Aspinall??? And where does Don Knotts fit into all this exactly???

I actually laughed a lot!!

Good find Kate ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: adamzero on April 18, 2006, 02:16:01 PM
I thought the Don Knotts bit was the true stroke of genius.  It wasn't from left field, it was out of the park.  But what better front than bumbling Barney Fife?  Apps, sounds like you've been checking out abovetopsecret.com for reptilians and other real lunacy.  
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 18, 2006, 03:49:52 PM
(http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8817/paulisdeadmagazine4ap.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 18, 2006, 03:55:02 PM
It seems that some of you are interested ... have you heard this?

Paul Is Dead (WABC radio broadcast, 1969) ... 16.45 minutes ...

Here you are:
http://rapidshare.de/files/11607945/Paul_Is_Dead_1969.mp3.html

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 18, 2006, 04:36:01 PM
Nice find, raxo.  I heard it the first time around.  I laughed then as I am laughing now.

(http://home.att.net/~thorobred7/Paul_Is_Live.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 18, 2006, 04:36:09 PM
Some more for those of you ...  ::)


Is Paul Dead (A report from Australian TV, 1969)

Here you are:
http://rapidshare.de/files/11606891/Is_Paul_Dead.avi



Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 18, 2006, 04:38:50 PM
Quote from: Hello_Goodbye
Nice find, raxo.  I heard it the first time around.  I laughed then as I am laughing now.

[url]http://home.att.net/~thorobred7/Paul_Is_Live.jpg[/url]


Thanks!  :)

I'm trying to upload another one (funnier and longer: 45.25 minutes) ... but I'm having some problems with yousendit and rapidshare   ??) ... I'm trying megaupload right now ... let's see ...  ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 18, 2006, 04:43:17 PM
(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8283/paulislive2nv.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

How can be there ^... when we all know he died a long long long time ago?!  :o  :D

(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7544/paulisdead0um.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 18, 2006, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: raxo

Thanks!  :)

I'm trying to upload another one (funnier and longer: 45.25 minutes) ... but I'm having some problems with yousendit and rapidshare   ??) ... I'm trying megaupload right now ... let's see ...  ;)

In about half an hour or so ...   :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 18, 2006, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: raxo

In about half an hour or so ...   :)

I can't understand what's happening today  >:( ... it's obviously my falt  :-/ ... 'cos I couldn't upload it ... none of the three sites  ??) ... I'll try later, tho ... sorry ...  :B
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 18, 2006, 06:54:51 PM
I'm looking forward to that second broadcast, raxo.  As I said, I was around when this all happened for the first time.  We got a kick out of all those "clues" and figured the Beatles were just goofing on all of us.  Everyone I knew was buying Beatles albums and playing them backwards and forwards at different speeds.  They certainly sold a lot of records, from Rubber Soul through Abbey Road in late 1969!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 18, 2006, 07:15:31 PM
I'm trying again ... the forth time this afternoon ::)

... this clip is from 1978 ... still asking Is Paul Dead?  ::)  ... with those backwards and forwards at different speeds you've mentioned too (funny "I buried Paul" thing) ...

... What I can say is: sooner or later you'll have that clip here!  :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 18, 2006, 08:36:50 PM
AT LAST, Hello Goodbye!


Paul Is Dead (CFNY radio broadcast, 1978 ) (45.25 minuts)

Here you are:
http://rapidshare.de/files/10825458/Paul_Is_Dead_1978.mp3.html

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 18, 2006, 08:48:32 PM
Thanks, raxo!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kate on April 19, 2006, 06:24:53 AM
Quote from: The_End

What a sad waste of time - I feel sorry for the guy (if it's a guy) who sat there all those hours and came up with that.

Paul McCartney is Viv Stanshall (of the Bonzos) AND Neil Aspinall??? And where does Don Knotts fit into all this exactly???

I actually laughed a lot!!

Good find Kate ;D

yeah, sad isn't he/she/it? But a good laugh anyway.

Think I could do something like that....with another theory.....plot is.....John's dead.....Yoko is behind all this...has FBI been fooled?....or has John been fooled?.....

This would make a nice fiction-thriller-story .... ;) :P
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on April 19, 2006, 01:06:13 PM
Summing up ...
(http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8817/paulisdeadmagazine4ap.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7544/paulisdead0um.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Paul Is Dead (WABC radio broadcast, 1969) (16.45 minutes)

Here you are:
http://rapidshare.de/files/11607945/Paul_Is_Dead_1969.mp3.html

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Is Paul Dead (A report from Australian TV, 1969)

Here you are:
http://rapidshare.de/files/11606891/Is_Paul_Dead.avi

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Paul Is Dead (CFNY radio broadcast, 1978 ) (45.25 minuts)

Here you are:
http://rapidshare.de/files/10825458/Paul_Is_Dead_1978.mp3.html



Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 20, 2006, 10:18:56 AM
Quote from: adamzero
  Apps, sounds like you've been checking out abovetopsecret.com for reptilians and other real lunacy.  

I havn't....it's just that the reptilian theorist Daviv Icke lives in my town!!! lol

Big Leibowski rules dude!!!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on April 21, 2006, 02:11:33 AM
Quote from: Kate
so far the best clues I found....really start to believe it now...;D

Paul is dead clues[/u] ([url]http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/[/url])


Here is the forum started by the same insane wacko from the above link. :o

ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! (http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: adamzero on April 21, 2006, 02:23:55 AM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle

I havn't....it's just that the reptilian theorist Daviv Icke lives in my town!!! lol

No way!  Icke lives in your town?!  Anyway we can get some audio on him? I'd love to sample him on reptilians or whatever.  I wonder if he has any opinions on the Beatles and conspiracy theories.  I'll have to check abovetopsecret.com.  

BTW the sightings near Rendelsham Forest is still pretty spooky.   :o
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 21, 2006, 10:45:48 AM
Yeah he does Az. He left his wife for some young (as in like 18 to his 50something) desciple i think. All I know is 'the son of god' has to catch the ferry to the mainland like the rest of us. lol

Would be funny to see him walk across water. He was a really good proffesional soccer goalkeeper. His son is trying to front a band at the mo. I can see the headlines.... 'Grandson of God hits the charts.' heheheheh

I'll be honest...i have not checked out his work although for some reason i managed to be flicking through a copy of his corrected draft version of his famous book. Whacky stuff. Still, could be conceived by any drug-taking, middle aged crisis, frustrated career man. lol
He has suffered great ridicule in ths country.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on April 24, 2006, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: KHAN

Here is the forum started by the same insane wacko from the above link. :o

ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! ([url]http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi[/url])


Nice one - I just spent a long time browsing these posts, it's sad that people actually believe this nonsense!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on April 24, 2006, 06:02:48 PM
Sad is a good word for it.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on September 20, 2006, 02:51:48 PM
It's NEIL ASPINALL: http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Frightwolf on October 04, 2006, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: 63
It's NEIL ASPINALL: [url]http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/[/url]


I actually did a speech on this last semester for, well, Speech class.  At about 5 - 7 minutes, I couldn't get into conspiracy theories, but I did provide the basic gist of the routine album/song/backwards clues, plus a clip from a radio broadcast that helped spread the word of this hoax (thanks again, Al!).  Suffice to say, easy A  :P

My English term paper last semester was also on the hoax.  Another easy A, and I was surprised that it was written so well! When you're interested in something so much, it's very easy to write and write and get caught up, as opposed to something you're just bsing and getting out of the way.  If only I could find some way to incorporate this kind of stuff in all future college papers...
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on February 12, 2007, 12:15:30 AM
(http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8817/paulisdeadmagazine4ap.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Quote from: 297
[...]
Paul Is Dead (WABC radio broadcast, 1969) ... 16.45 minutes ...

Here you are:
[url]http://rapidshare.de/files/11607945/Paul_Is_Dead_1969.mp3.html[/url]


Re-uploaded here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/13710789/Paul_Is_Dead__WABC_radio_broadcast__1969_.mp3.html
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on February 13, 2007, 02:55:00 AM
Quote from: 297
AT LAST, Hello Goodbye!

Paul Is Dead (CFNY radio broadcast, 1978 ) (45.25 minutes)

Here you are:
[url]http://rapidshare.de/files/10825458/Paul_Is_Dead_1978.mp3.html[/url]



Re-uploaded here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/16239065/Paul_Is_Dead__CFNY_radio_broadcast__1978_.mp3.html
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The End on February 13, 2007, 01:08:30 PM
Quote from: 130

I actually did a speech on this last semester for, well, Speech class.  At about 5 - 7 minutes, I couldn't get into conspiracy theories, but I did provide the basic gist of the routine album/song/backwards clues, plus a clip from a radio broadcast that helped spread the word of this hoax (thanks again, Al!).  Suffice to say, easy A  :P

My English term paper last semester was also on the hoax.  Another easy A, and I was surprised that it was written so well! When you're interested in something so much, it's very easy to write and write and get caught up, as opposed to something you're just bsing and getting out of the way.  If only I could find some way to incorporate this kind of stuff in all future college papers...

Can you post the text to your presentation - I still have those audio files I made for you to tie in. It would make a great addition to the board :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on February 13, 2007, 10:56:33 PM
Quote from: 297
Some more for those of you ...  ::)

Is Paul Dead (A report from Australian TV, 1969)

Here you are:
[url]http://rapidshare.de/files/11606891/Is_Paul_Dead.avi[/url]



Re-uploaded:
http://rapidshare.com/files/16344455/Is_Paul_Dead__A_report_from_Australian_TV__1969_.avi.html
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on February 14, 2007, 01:39:41 PM
Summing up ... a-gain!
(http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8817/paulisdeadmagazine4ap.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7544/paulisdead0um.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Paul Is Dead (WABC radio broadcast, 1969) (16.45 minutes)

Here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/13710789/Paul_Is_Dead__WABC_radio_broadcast__1969_.mp3.html

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Is Paul Dead (A report from Australian TV, 1969) (video, 5.14 minutes)

Here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/16344455/Is_Paul_Dead__A_report_from_Australian_TV__1969_.avi.html

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Paul Is Dead (CFNY radio broadcast, 1978 ) (45.25 minutes)

Here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/16239065/Paul_Is_Dead__CFNY_radio_broadcast__1978_.mp3.html

 
and finalley ...


Paul Is Dead (video, 19.48 minutes)

Here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/16420295/Paul_Is_Dead.avi.html

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: raxo on February 25, 2007, 01:50:42 AM
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1289/paulwhoburrieddvdms5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Who Buried Paul McCartney? (2005)

In the late sixties the news about the death of Paul McCartney swept the world. But did Paul really die? This documentary explores the true story behind the Paul Is Dead mystery.

Here's the trailer (video, 44 seconds):
http://rapidshare.com/files/18144322/Who_Buried_Paul_McCartney_DVD__trailer_.mpg.html
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on March 01, 2007, 06:00:25 AM
Amazing what a hair cut and moustache can do huh?


Pic 1: 1966
Pic 2: 1967
Pic 3: 1966 pic with '67 hair and moustache animated over top.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/Member27/PID/67pfanimation.gif)


 ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Revolution on March 01, 2007, 06:02:21 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on April 26, 2007, 06:45:20 AM
These links contain some backwards clues I had never heard before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8eFq7RJYN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJFUxYOTA6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON3cb8ur7pM
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: BlueMeanie on April 26, 2007, 08:59:11 AM
I expect we could find some pre 1966 ones if we really tried hard enough! ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on April 26, 2007, 09:10:21 AM
Quote from: 483
I expect we could find some pre 1966 ones if we really tried hard enough! ;D


One of the major clues on Abbey Road was Paul holding a cigarette in his right hand, being a lefthander. But he already did that in 1963:

(http://www.fab4collectibles.com/ParlophonePoster1.JPG)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 27, 2007, 01:01:50 AM
Well, it was either hold the ciggie in his right hand or burn Ringo's jacket.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Revolution on April 27, 2007, 01:39:51 AM
Paul isn't dead but Heather is off Dancing with the stars!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on May 04, 2007, 11:19:56 AM
I find the Paul is Dead stuff so incredibly interesting even though it's all a hoax.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: BlueMeanie on May 04, 2007, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: 63
One of the major clues on Abbey Road was Paul holding a cigarette in his right hand, being a lefthander. But he already did that in 1963:

I'm right handed, but I hold my pint with my left!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Andy Smith on May 04, 2007, 02:56:30 PM
I'm ambidextrous so i can use both hands. it is strange but that's the way
it goes. Maybe Macca is, & we don't know. :-/
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on November 14, 2007, 10:43:01 AM
There's a series on youtube about the Paul is Dead-hoax, called The Rotten Apple. It's collecting 'evidence' up to today's releases.

Example:

WchlIWsbTyc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WchlIWsbTyc)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on November 19, 2007, 03:50:02 PM
Oh gosh, that's one of the most stupid but funny things I've ever seen XD and the video really cracks me up LOL
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: blackmath on November 19, 2007, 04:12:46 PM
i really enjoy the rotten apples series actually, very funny. all those backwards stuff and "omg, is this the same man" text.
i actually think that paul's faced changed a bit after 66/67 though.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: BlueMeanie on November 19, 2007, 04:26:11 PM
Quote from: 706
i actually think that paul's faced changed a bit after 66/67 though.

In what way? Everybody's face changes a bit after time.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: blackmath on November 19, 2007, 04:48:51 PM
but he looks the same all the time before [to me atleast] and it's a big difference i see in his face. i don't know, maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Andy Smith on November 20, 2007, 03:20:44 PM
mmm.... :-/
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: on November 27, 2007, 04:04:09 PM
I've read every book available on the Paul is dead thing.

Great fun, but people who still believe this crap NEED TO GET A CLUE (and NOT about Paul's "untimely demise") but about their own GULLIBILITY.

no, that Campbell guy isnt Paul for chrissake !

John probably concieved the entire hoax--or at least I hope so :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Paulram on February 05, 2008, 04:31:04 PM
Thanks needed a laugh. the things people come up with. Next thing we'll hear Paul McCartney was killed in Hamburg and it's a fake on the Ed Sullivan Show ::)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: fendertele on February 06, 2008, 01:47:54 AM
yeah anyone can see all the pics they use to show changes in face shape, are just pics stretched to make him his face longer and smaller instead of his actual rounder face.

but i do find the whole thing very amusing and like to see what they will come out with next.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on February 08, 2008, 02:47:40 AM
The difference is like "Night and day".

Make that "Night and later that same night"...  ;)


(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/6170.gif)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/expressions.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on April 18, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: 15
Tell me it's not true!!! lol

SIR PAUL McCARTNEY has outraged fans in his native Liverpool, England - by agreeing to play a concert at the ground of his favourite soccer team's rivals.
The former Beatle, 65, is due to perform at Liverpool Football Club's Anfield stadium on 1 June (08 ) to celebrate the city being named 2008's European Capital of Culture - despite declaring himself a supporter of the opposing local team, Everton.
He says, "It is always lovely for me to go back to Liverpool and play for the home crowd. I am looking forward to that, it should be cool, even though I am in Everton fan officially. When it comes to the crunch, my dad was born in Everton."
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: harihead on April 18, 2008, 01:43:05 PM
Oh, good grief. Somebody better put a full-time watch on his shrub, or Sir Paul will lose his head!

The complete lack of sympathy for this outrage can only be understood by someone who cares as little about sports as I do.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: fan numero uno on April 27, 2008, 12:33:50 PM
we all know the "3" on the back of the abbey road cover. but what if it really was a 5? that would change pretty much everything we have "know" about the paul is dead mystery.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Mellotroniac on May 18, 2008, 12:47:16 AM
I love that clue on ATMP album, "It's Johnnys Birthday" backwards, you can clearly hear George say,"He never wore his shoes, we all know he was dead."
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Geoff on May 18, 2008, 05:06:00 AM
Lately I've wondered about all those feet in the air on cover of Off The Ground. Surely that must mean something, especially when you consider that Paul (or someone) was barefoot on the cover of Abbey Road.

(thinker)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: cubanheel on June 13, 2008, 09:50:39 PM
Well, I don't see how he could have been replaced; his kids all look like him or his dad, so what's that all about??? Plus the man himself looks like old Jim Mac, not to mention family resemblence to brother Mike. They can't ALL have been replaced, can they????
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Dante on July 08, 2008, 04:41:02 PM
Good read. Reminds me of those endless 2Pac alive theories I used to read over and over again. At the end of the story, 99% of all conspiracy theories are fake.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: freakchic9 on July 08, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Has anyone here heard of the Ringo Is Also Dead thing? It only has one clue.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: fan numero uno on July 08, 2008, 09:29:18 PM
what is that clue?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: freakchic9 on July 08, 2008, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: 1300
what is that clue?

On the "With The Beatles" cover, Ringo's not the same as the other 3, which means he's not like them, hencing he died.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: fan numero uno on July 08, 2008, 09:42:46 PM
maybe it was just that he was short! kidding.
anyway, my dad has a book called The Wierd 100. one of the hundred chapters is the Paul is dead mystery. it was the longest chapter in the book, i think, and it had lots of clues. im to lazy to type them all, but if there is any questions anyone has about a specific album cover, i can check to see if the book has any info on it.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: PaulieBear on July 08, 2008, 11:00:28 PM
Quote from: 186
The difference is like "Night and day".

Make that "Night and later that same night"...  ;)


([url]http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/6170.gif[/url])

([url]http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/expressions.jpg[/url])


I think that's called EATING! or growing up!
weird, freakish people thought he was dead....
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Andy Smith on July 09, 2008, 01:25:17 AM
yes, exactly, everybody grows up and ages
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: fan numero uno on July 09, 2008, 01:28:47 AM
my dad told me that HE is Paul McCartney, and he staged his own death so that he could settle down and live a normal life.  ;D how could his life be normal with me as a daughter?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: freakchic9 on August 20, 2008, 01:33:26 AM
I have another clue! I was watching the Free As A Bird music video today, and there was this one scene where John and a bunch of people were at the end of a crosswalk, and there was this car. It looked like the ar had crashed and there were a bunch of policemen there. It COULD have been Paul in that car.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on August 20, 2008, 07:36:26 AM
Quote from: 1301
I have another clue! I was watching the Free As A Bird music video today, and there was this one scene where John and a bunch of people were at the end of a crosswalk, and there was this car. It looked like the ar had crashed and there were a bunch of policemen there. It COULD have been Paul in that car.

Oh, the Free As A Bird video is well known for lots of clues.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: freakchic9 on August 20, 2008, 10:46:12 PM
Quote from: 63

Oh, the Free As A Bird video is well known for lots of clues.

Well, that was the only clue I found. I guess I wasn't really looking.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 21, 2008, 03:43:54 AM
Or listening.  ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on October 16, 2008, 09:02:37 AM
Paul McCartney Admits Beatles Planned Death Hoax
by Bruce Spizer

(Originally Published April 1, 2004)

While on a recent quick vacation in New Orleans, Paul McCartney let his guard down and admitted what some Beatles fans have suspected for years. He confirmed that the "Paul is dead" clues found in several Beatles album covers and songs were deliberately planted by the group as part of an elaborate scheme dating back to the summer of 1966.

According to McCartney, the plan was formulated by manager Brian Epstein. "Brian dropped by the studio to hear the playback of our latest single, 'Paperback Writer.' He didn't like it one bit. 'Not a love song,' he said. He was concerned that the press and our fans wouldn't get it. He told us, 'People want love songs. They won't spend money for a song about a novel writer. You boys are gonna blow it with this one.' But by this time, we were running the show, not Brian. We insisted that 'Paperback Writer' would be our next single and told him that the song represented the new direction our songwriting was going in."

When contacted in London, former Beatles press agent Tony Barrow confirmed Brian's concerns. "Brian was into traditional love songs. He had told Paul to come up with another 'Yesterday' or 'Michelle' for the next single. Imagine his shock when he heard 'Paperback Writer' and 'Rain.' Not only were they not love songs, but they were so loud! We didn't know it at the time, but the Beatles had recorded the first heavy metal single. Not exactly 'Till There Was You' or 'A Taste Of Honey.' I was worried, too. I wondered, 'Had the boys gone too far this time?'"

Brian became even more concerned when he imagined an album full of unconventional songs. While a fan might take a chance on a single, an album purchase was a big thing in those days. Due to its higher price, youngsters, particularly those in the U.K., were very careful about buying albums. That is why the Beatles often issued an EP from an album containing four of its best tracks. So Brian came up with a plan to help sell albums in the event he was right about the dangerous new direction the group was heading in. Paul explained, "When I told him our future albums would be dominated by songs about interesting people and places, his heart sank. He didn't think people would buy such albums and came up with this great idea to push sales in the event he was right and we were wrong. The idea was that we would plant clues in our songs and album covers that one of us had died in a car wreck. If after a few albums, our records weren't selling well, we'd leak out word about the clues and let our fans and the press take over. People would buy the albums to see and hear the clues. We thought, 'Wow, that's an incredible idea!' We realized it would be great fun to have all those clues sitting there undiscovered until people started going nuts looking for them all."

Tony Barrow also thought the plan was brilliant. "Nothing re-energizes a singer's career like his death. Do you really think Buddy Holly would have been so famous had he not died in that plane crash? Same for Richie Valens and certainly that one-hit wonder Big Bopper with his 'Chantilly Lace' song. And how about Otis Redding? He never had a number one hit till after he died in a plane crash. The fact that Brian came up with a car crash shows his genius. Airplane crashes were the norm."

Having sold the group on the idea, the Beatles had to decide which one of them was to "die." Brian wanted the victim to be Ringo because he was the most popular Beatle in the all-important U.S. market, but the drummer wanted nothing to do with it. Tony Barrow recalls, "Ringo flat out refused to be the one. He said, 'Being painted red in a movie is one thing, but pretending to be dead's another. I'm superstitious. Those clues might make it happen.' Brian was disappointed because he knew Ringo was the most sympathetic Beatle. You know Ringo got more mail from America than the other members of the group combined." [Author's Note: Ringo was unavailable for comment.]

After Ringo turned down the "opportunity" to die, the honor of being a dead Beatle was up for grabs. According to Paul, "George said right away he didn't feel comfortable faking his death. But it sure got him thinking. A few days later he showed up at a session with a new song called 'The Art Of Dying.' We didn't think it was that good a song, so we never recorded it. George later improved the lyrics and included it on his first album."

Paul's recollections are backed by the original lyrics to the song, which appear in George's "I Me Mine" book. The 1966 version of the song referred to Brian Epstein, who was the mastermind behind the death clues. It contained the line "Then nothing Mr. Epstein can do will keep me here with you."

With Ringo and George not willing to "die" for the good of the group, it came down to John and Paul, with both thinking it would be fab to be "dead." Paul recalls, "John wanted to be the dead Beatle, but this time I didn't cave in to John like I did on the songwriter credits. I thought it should be me because I was the second most popular Beatle. Brian agreed it should be me because he was worried that once the clues became known, people might think it was a John practical joke if John was supposedly dead. But me...Brian thought, 'No one would suspect Paul for rigging his own death. They think John's the clever one.' So I got to die."

A few days after the "Paperback Writer" listening session, the group was at Brian's office when photographer Bob Whitaker dropped by with the pictures from the butcher session. Brian asked Whitaker to shoot a picture of Paul in steamer trunk to symbolize his lying dead in a coffin. Paul picks up the story. "Bob thought it was too direct, so he suggested we stand the truck upwards and have me sit in it with the other standing around. That way, it would only look like I was lying in a coffin if the cover was turned sideways. Bob had Ringo place his hand on the trunk lid like he was closing the coffin. Brilliant! Brian told us to throw some clues into our songs. Right away John came up with 'I'm Only Sleeping,' as if 'Paul isn't dead, he's only sleeping.' Pretty subtle. Most people missed that clue, and that was one of the first!"

The "coffin trunk" photo was sent to Capitol to serve as the cover for the American album "Yesterday And Today." But when Brian saw the cover mock-up, he began having second thoughts about using the photo so early in the game. He was concerned that people might suspect Paul was dead a lot sooner than the group wanted to clues to be discovered. So Brian sent Capitol the butcher photo, knowing that it might ultimately be rejected, but at least it would deflect attention away from the provocative coffin trunk cover. The plan worked to perfection with the Butcher cover causing so much controversy that when it was "replaced" by the trunk cover, no one noticed it showed Paul lying in a coffin!

One of the casualties of the plan was Robert Freeman's unused cover for "Revolver." Paul explains that, "For 'Revolver,' Robert Freeman came up with a great cover image, but there was no death clue in it. I asked Klaus [Voormann] to do a pen and ink with a photo collage so we could throw in some clues. I had him place an image of my face in my ear. That represented a 'beetle' crawling out of the ear of my buried corpse. You know, insects get into coffins and mix with the dead bodies, crawling through eye sockets, ear openings and the like. Very creepy and very subtle. And the other clue came from Klaus drawing my face in a side profile looking to the left. The others were drawn looking forward. When you turn the cover on its side, I'm looking upward, just like I'd appear on a morgue slab or if I were buried underground. We really were into having clues appear when you turned our covers sideways. I'm surprised nobody caught those 'Revolver' clues."

According to Tony Barrow, there was one other clue planted on "Revolver." "John had this really weird song that had no title, so he called it 'Mark I.' Later he came up with 'The Void,' to symbolize the void left in the group by Paul's death. Ringo thought that was too subtle, so he came up with the perfect phrase for describing the direction the group would go in if Paul really were dead. And that was 'Tomorrow Never Knows.' Ringo was great at stuff like that."

By the time the Beatles recorded "Sgt. Pepper," the plan really took off. Tony Barrow recalls, "Brian thought 'Tomorrow Never Knows' was way out there. You can imagine his fear of an entire album of songs like that. He was terrified that Sgt. Pepper would be viewed as pretentious nonsense! He told the boys to throw in a bunch of clues on that one!"

The first song recorded for "Sgt. Pepper" was "Strawberry Fields Forever," though it ended up being used as a single. At the end of the song, John was supposed to repeat "I buried Paul" several times, but that was too obvious, so instead he said "Cranberry sauce" and then slurred his words so that "I buried Paul" sounded like "I'm very bored." The plan worked as it took over two years before anyone realized what he was really saying.

Later songs also had clues. Paul admitted that "She's Leaving Home" contained the time the car wreck supposedly occurred-"Wednesday morning at five o'clock as the day begins." The line "Meeting a man from the motor trade" tied in the motor vehicle. And, of course, "A Day In The Life" was about a car crash. According to Paul, "The drug references were just a smoke-screen to deflect attention away from the car crash, you know. 'He blew his mind out in a car' could mean his head was crushed or he was doing drugs. Take your pick."

The cover was full of clues: the crashing car; Paul's bass made of flowers; Paul having his back to the camera on the back cover; the hand over Paul's head; and the infamous "O.P.D." patch on Paul's uniform, which was McCartney's favorite Pepper clue. "We had to work hard on that one. Someone told John that in America the letters OPD stood for 'Officially Pronounced Dead.' I remembered I had this patch with the letters "OPP," which I got in Canada. I think it stands for Ontario Police Precinct or something like that. So I got the idea to put the patch on my uniform's sleeve and shoot the picture so that the lower part of the second 'P' would not be visible, thus making it look like 'OPD.' I was quite pleased with the way it came out."

Although the sales of "Revolver" and "Pepper" made Brian realize that the clues probably weren't needed to sell records, the group kept creating more and more clues. According to Paul, "It was so neat coming up with clues that we kept doing them even thought we never thought they'd be needed to sell albums. It was great mischievous fun! When Brian died, we really went wild with it! For 'Magical Mystery Tour,' I wanted to wear a black flower on my jacket. The florist thought Alistair Taylor was nuts when he insisted they send us a black carnation. We became worried people would catch on when they saw the 'Magical Mystery Tour' booklet because the clues were so obvious. The 4 or 5 musicians, the "I was" sign. But no one caught on."

Paul stated that placing the clues was even more fun than the visual images. "Ringo had this old song, 'Don't Pass Me By,' which we had refused to record for years. But I realized it could be used for a clue. I gave him the line 'You were in a car crash and you lost your hair' And we did great stuff with backwards tape loops and mumbling. John going 'Paul is a dead man, miss him, miss him.'"

Some of the clues were easy and obvious. John's "Glass Onion" even told the fans what was going on with its line "And here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul." But some were quite intricate.

According to Paul, the toughest one was "Revolution 9." "We had to come up with a phrase to go 'Number 9' when you played it backwards. Our plan was to have it go 'Number 9' on the record, but when you played it backwards it would sound like 'Paul is dead.' When we recorded 'Paul is dead' and played it backwards, it didn't go 'Number 9.' It sounded more like 'Pythagorian Theorem.' The phrase 'Macca is dead' sounded like 'Thermo nuclear' when we played it backwards. We experimented for hours until Alan Parsons came up with 'Turn me on dead man.' When we reversed the tape, it sounded like he was saying 'Number 9, number 9.' So that's how we did it."

Abbey Road engineer Alan Parsons remembers the session well. "We spent hours recording different phrases until I lucked into 'Turn me on dead man.' When I played the tape backwards and heard 'Number 9,' well, it was one of the greatest moments of my life! We were all sworn to secrecy about the clues, but now that Paul's let the cat out the bag, I can talk about it. I later recorded my own song about looking for clues, 'Eye In The Sky.'"

The last batch of clues were planted on the album cover to "Abbey Road," which was designed by Paul. McCartney came up with the idea to stage his own funeral. George, in the role of the grave digger, dressed in work clothes. Ringo, the funeral director, wore a black suit. John, the angel, wore white. Paul was barefoot, as it is the custom in several cultures to bury people without their shoes. In a subtle touch, the left-handed McCartney held a cigarette in his right hand. This was to imply that the Paul who had been with the group since mid-1966 was a right-handed imposter.

Paul recalls the other major "Abbey Road" clue with fondness. "I've always liked puns, so I wanted to have a Volkswagon Beetle represent me. Alistair Taylor arranged for a friend of his to park his VW Beetle on the street by the studio. Alistair and I placed a special license tag we had made the night before on the car. It said '28 IF,' meaning that I would have been 28 if I had lived. Unfortunately, I out-thought myself on that one. I was only 27 at the time, but I told Alistair to paint it as 28 because I didn't think "Abbey Road" would come out until I was 28. That's because I was sure that the "Get Back" album would come out first. By the time we decided to put out "Abbey Road" first, I had forgotten about that clue, so we didn't have the picture altered to have the tag read '27 IF.'"

When John told the others he was quitting the group, Paul began thinking it was time to expose the clues. "I was always nervous before a record came out, you know. Would people like it? And, in this case, what if word leaked out that John had quit? We were all worried that the album would bomb, and when word spread that John was out, we'd be forgotten. No one would buy our latest LP or our old records. The clincher was a pair of bad reviews published in 'The New York Times' and 'Rolling Stone.' I thought, oh sh*t, no one likes the long medley on side two. So I had Mal [Evans] go to Detroit and tell some college kids about the clues. One of the guys phoned in some of the clues to a radio station there. That was all it took."

Once people started looking for clues, they were easy to spot. The American press was fascinated with the story. Brian's plan worked to perfection. Not only did sales for "Abbey Road" take off, but people began buying "Sgt. Pepper," "Magical Mystery Tour" and "The White Album" to see and hear the clues. Paul hid away at his farm in Scotland to further fuel the hoax. When a reported from "Life" magazine finally caught up with him, Paul dead-panned, "If I were dead, I'd be the last to know."

The Beatles and their inner circle kept the clue caper a secret for over thirty years. Not only do we now know that the Beatles deliberately planted the clues, but we also know that it was part of a brilliant marketing plan formulated by manager Brian Epstein back in 1966. As for why Paul finally revealed the secrets behind the scheme, we may never know if it was an accidental slip up on his part or a plan to reignite sales of the Beatles catalog.


Bruce Spizer is a well-know Beatles author and historian who has not only written a series of critically acclaimed books on the group's American records, but also has been known to tell a tall tale or two for April Fool's Day. This article originally appeared in the April 1, 2004 issue of Goldmine Magazine.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on October 16, 2008, 01:44:53 PM
^ Those crazy Beatles!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: BlueMeanie on October 16, 2008, 05:24:56 PM
Wonderfull! Cheers Rick.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on October 17, 2008, 07:07:07 AM
I don't buy it.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: freakchic9 on October 17, 2008, 07:23:30 PM
Today in class, FNU and I thought of a Ringo Is Dead thing, a Georgie is Dead thing, and a John Is Dead As Well thing. We have cluse and everything!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The Swine on October 17, 2008, 07:26:13 PM
pigsh*t
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: BlueMeanie on October 17, 2008, 08:32:40 PM
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Today in class, FNU and I thought of a Ringo Is Dead thing, a Georgie is Dead thing, and a John Is Dead As Well thing. We have cluse and everything!

There's some good ones for John and George.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: freakchic9 on October 18, 2008, 01:17:46 AM
FNU made a great one for the Ringo Is Dead thing. She says:
You know how Ringo now wears sunglasses? Well, the Ringo we know has blue eyes. But the Ringo replacement doesn't have blue eyes, so he wears sunglasses!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: HeyJude18 on October 18, 2008, 02:48:54 AM
^ Glad to see that you guys are productive in class!  LOL
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 18, 2008, 04:01:43 AM
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You know how Ringo now wears sunglasses? Well, the Ringo we know has blue eyes. But the Ringo replacement doesn't have blue eyes, so he wears sunglasses!


(http://www.aref-adib.com/archives/arafatstar.jpg)
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Post by: cubanheel on October 18, 2008, 11:46:52 AM
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There's some good ones for John and George.


(rolling3)
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Post by: Penny Lane on October 22, 2008, 08:54:33 PM
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([url]http://www.aref-adib.com/archives/arafatstar.jpg[/url])


LOL.  And I've long wondered why Ringo won't go without his sunglasses.  Now we know the "truth."   :P :P ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: freakchic9 on October 22, 2008, 10:05:36 PM
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LOL.  And I've long wondered why Ringo won't go without his sunglasses.  Now we know the "truth."   :P :P ;D

You can thank FNU for uncovering the truth!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Mrs Lennon on December 04, 2008, 10:26:47 PM
Oh! I've got Ringo is dead stuff! On the cover of the American album 'Beatles VI', Ringo is the only one not touching the knife, so it could be a cardboard stand-up. In the CD leaflet for Help!, Ringo is the only Beatle with his hands on his face, which could be someone else's hands holding him up. Same hand with Rubber Soul. On the Abbey Road album cover, Ringo is in black. In many countries, black is a color that represents death. Okay, that's a little much. This just proves that the whole 'Paul is dead' thing is B-O-L-O-G-N-A, because you can do it with any Beatle.
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Post by: dabbik on December 15, 2008, 05:13:20 AM
Really liked Come Together theory... Maybe this was a inside-joke from the beatles? : o
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Pitch on January 04, 2009, 09:51:19 PM
I'm actually starting a PiD documentary that I'm gonna put up on TouTube. If y'all have any clues you came up with yourselves, or if you have an opinion about the conspiracy that I could quote you on, let me know if I could use it in the video. ^^

I personally don't believe in it. Like Ringo said, it's a bunch of rubbish. XD
However, it's totally interesting. o.o And I have nothing better to do this week. X3
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Penny Lane on January 04, 2009, 10:31:47 PM
^  When you do your documentary, I would strongly recommend that you add a disclaimer that you personally do not believe in this theory.  Otherwise you might wind up with lots of angry messages from Paul fans.   :X  Just a friendly thought because I've seen stupid flame wars on YouTube.  

Anyway, though, I do think the documentary is a great idea.  I don't subscribe to this theory either, but it is fun to try and pick out clues.  I was telling a friend about all the Paul is dead "clues" last week and she thought it was interesting.
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Post by: Pitch on January 05, 2009, 01:31:54 AM
I am, don't worry. =3 Thanks a lot. ^^

A lot of people I know that are into it don't believe it either, but we all find it so intersting. It's weird how a bit of it actually works out.

There's this one chap on Youtube with over 77 videos about the PiD conspiracy. o__o This fellow has a LOT of time on his hands.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: freakchic9 on January 05, 2009, 01:37:21 AM
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There's this one chap on Youtube with over 77 videos about the PiD conspiracy. o__o This fellow has a LOT of time on his hands.

Is it the Rotten Apple guy? He ran out of clues around the 20th video.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Pitch on January 05, 2009, 02:40:35 AM
Yeah, that guy. Did he? XD
I'm not quite intersted enough to watch them all, really. X3
Thanks, though. Now I don't have to waste my time on them. ^^
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on January 05, 2009, 08:26:17 AM
Quote from: 1546
Yeah, that guy. Did he? XD
I'm not quite intersted enough to watch them all, really. X3
Thanks, though. Now I don't have to waste my time on them. ^^

Yeah, the Rotten Apple is well known. Besides the more well known clues, it also digs into more nonsense then you'll ever think of!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Mrs Lennon on January 15, 2009, 06:12:00 PM
This doesn't have anything to do with 'Paul is Dead', but I thought it would have a good place here.

                                                                           [size=14]Paul is Alive[/size]


Reason #1. Strawberry Fields
In the song Strawberry Fields Forever, John is heard mumbling 'Cranberry Sauce'. Though, due to the tone and volume of this, many believe he said 'I've buried Paul'. BUT HOLD IT!!! On the Abbey Road sleeve, the Beatles are believed to be in a funeral procession-John as God, Ringo as Minister, Paul as corpse, and George as gravedigger. But hang on! These two 'clues cancel each other out because it would be strange if two people dug Paul's grave.

Reason #2 Abbey Road On the Abbey Road cover, there are many supposed
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: cubanheel on January 18, 2009, 09:20:24 PM
(rolling3)(clap)
Ha ha ha and bravo!!!!!
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Post by: Penny Lane on January 20, 2009, 01:42:56 AM
Miss Lennon, your list is very clever!

Anyway, I had to toss this one in:

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/heavenlymonster/Beatles/944ae730.jpg)

Paul was already dead even before Ringo joined the Beatles.  Who knew?!   ;D ;D
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Post by: Hello Goodbye on January 24, 2009, 02:09:56 AM
Nah!  He still has his shoes on.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Penny Lane on January 24, 2009, 02:32:26 AM
^  LOL!!  Gee, how could I have missed such a major detail? ;D
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Post by: freakchic9 on February 17, 2009, 01:50:31 AM
iVNe7yypGYE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVNe7yypGYE)
^1:47
The hoax spills into their cartoon? This was a family show!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 05, 2009, 02:27:45 AM
Dino Danelli could have easily passed for Paul in the late 60s....

(http://www.jim-howe.com/jerseycity/dinodanelli4%5B1%5D.jpg)

.....and some think he did.



But, as we all know......

(http://www.jpgr.co.uk/pcsd147_a.jpg)


 ;)
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Post by: MandyBuglet on March 06, 2009, 03:19:57 AM
The cartoon didn't work :(.

It said "This video has been removed by the user".
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 06, 2009, 01:18:28 PM
Oh, he's dead for sure

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2607/abbeytrucheadaju7.jpg)
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Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on March 06, 2009, 01:35:09 PM
 ;D
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Post by: Pilzkopf on March 06, 2009, 05:15:58 PM
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([url]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/heavenlymonster/Beatles/944ae730.jpg[/url])

Okay, I recognize Bob Geldof on the left, and Brando in the middle. But who is the other guy?


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Post by: BlueMeanie on March 06, 2009, 05:18:17 PM
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Okay, I recognize Bob Geldof on the left, and Brando in the middle. But who is the other guy?



Looks like Victor Mature!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on March 06, 2009, 06:23:45 PM
Stupendous
Quote from: 63
Oh, he's dead for sure

([url]http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2607/abbeytrucheadaju7.jpg[/url])


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Post by: Swine on March 06, 2009, 09:39:52 PM
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Stupendous
yoko even switched lanes to hit him
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Post by: Penny Lane on March 06, 2009, 11:51:52 PM
Quote from: 63
Oh, he's dead for sure

([url]http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2607/abbeytrucheadaju7.jpg[/url])


LMAO!!!  Nice one!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: freakchic9 on March 07, 2009, 02:06:01 AM
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The cartoon didn't work :(.

It said "This video has been removed by the user".

Oh no! I can't remember which cartoon it was. I just remember that The Beatles were at a wax museum.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Mrs Lennon on April 08, 2009, 10:19:28 PM
If anyone cares anymore, the cartoon was 'Misery'  ::)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: HeyJude18 on May 10, 2009, 01:03:09 AM
Check out a new movie coming out... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1378367/ coincidence, I think not!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Penny Lane on May 10, 2009, 05:43:45 AM
I saw a guy today wearing a "PAUL IS DEAD!" shirt.  I just stared and stared.

 >:( >:( >:( >:(  Gaaah!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Mrs Lennon on May 10, 2009, 05:36:37 PM
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Check out a new movie coming out... [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1378367/[/url] coincidence, I think not!


It's coming out on Paul's birthday, lol.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Andy Smith on May 10, 2009, 10:27:01 PM
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It's coming out on Paul's birthday, lol.

and yet the clues won't stop!!! :P

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on May 30, 2009, 12:24:08 PM
Haha this is funny! Sorry but I think this whole "Paul is dead" theory is really stupid. Sorry. But good for a laugh! ;-)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: walrus_21 on May 31, 2009, 02:15:27 PM
My favorite take on all this:  Dylan talking about one of his albums, said something along the lines of, "If you hold the album sleeve up and turn it 90 degrees to the right, the record falls out."
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Euan Buchan on July 14, 2009, 11:22:35 PM
Oh, the Free As A Bird video is well known for lots of clues.


Here's one when you go past the car next to the policemen you notice a reflection that looks like Paul here

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/EuanB/pauldead.jpg)

on the back cover of MMT if you tip it sideways and look at the Beatles it looks like it reads RIP
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: lucy~(-_-*... on October 08, 2009, 02:56:38 PM
in Abby Road, Paul barefoot and expresses that he is not connected to ground, ie, dead ...
Besides in the song "strawberry fields forever" section made by the song backwards.
 John says: "I buried Paul".
sed hh.... :'(
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: dramster on October 15, 2009, 06:31:57 AM

Wanna hear my theory about the whole 'Paul Is Dead' thing?  No?  Too bad, here it is!

In this theory Paul did NOT die, and the Beatles did NOT deliberately insert clues into their albums.  So how does one explain this phenomena?  Coincidence?  I think not!

It's funny that the date of Paul's supposed death (1966) corresponds roughly with the time that the Beatles (George and John at least) began using LSD.  A well documented side-effect of taking LSD (particularly in the prodigiously huge doses that people were taking at the time) is that the LSD user experiences ego death and rebirth. 

To quote from Timothy Leary's 1960s Acid Manual based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead (upon which Lennon based the lyrics for 'Tomorrow Never Knows'):

     O (name of voyager),
     That which is called ego-death is coming to you.
     Remember:
     This is now the hour of death and rebirth.
     Take advantage of this temporary death to obtain the perfect state -
     Enlightenment.

(from First Bardo Instructions, page 115 of the 1995 edition)

So what's this have to do with anything?  Well, despite the fact that McCartney was the Beatle who (after finally taking LSD in 1967) revealed to the press that he had done so, he didn't get into the LSD experience as much as the others.  He has stated in interviews that he had heard that if you take LSD too many times it irrevocably changes you, so he used it a handful of times and that was it.

So this evidence suggests that, unlike the other Beatles, Paul McCartney was a very cautious user of LSD, and didn't submit to going 'all the way' to the experience of ego death (which itself requires a heavy dose to achieve).

So the irony is that McCartney is the only Beatle NOT to have died on LSD!

So what about the hundreds of well-documented 'clues' that suggest that Paul Is Dead?  Here my theory gets a little strange, so bear with me.  I see it as a manifestation of cosmic humour, synchronicity rather than coincidence.  Strange things can happen when massive amounts of energy are unleashed, such as they were in the 1960s when the acid fad was at its height.  In a way the 'clues' were an expression of the energy of the universe (operating on the chaotic principles of self-organisation) poking fun at McCartney for keeping his ego intact instead of experiencing the oneness with everything that so profoundly affected the other Beatles.

So that's my theory, my theory that it is.  The truth is out there, eh?

If these shadows have offended, think but this and all is mended.. Don't get upset!  Take it in the spirit in which it was intended.

It's all a BIG JOKE! ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: lucy~(-_-*... on October 18, 2009, 06:28:43 PM
Hhmmmff .. Not long ago I read a book about John and Yoko (numbers also on "Paul is dead") I read how he died (a cut) I fell token!. After all I knew how he died!
I asked my parents and they did not know. I asked my history teacher, and he did not know.
  Who did not ask!! They did not know to give me an answer .. And now I know (:)

You know?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: HarriGirl_44 on December 04, 2009, 10:12:46 PM
 He had an accident but he didn't die. It just a stupid joke.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 05, 2009, 02:13:04 AM
So what about the hundreds of well-documented 'clues' that suggest that Paul Is Dead?  Here my theory gets a little strange, so bear with me.  I see it as a manifestation of cosmic humour, synchronicity rather than coincidence.  Strange things can happen when massive amounts of energy are unleashed, such as they were in the 1960s when the acid fad was at its height.  In a way the 'clues' were an expression of the energy of the universe (operating on the chaotic principles of self-organisation) poking fun at McCartney for keeping his ego intact instead of experiencing the oneness with everything that so profoundly affected the other Beatles.

So that's my theory, my theory that it is.  The truth is out there, eh?

It's all a BIG JOKE! ;D

We all pretty much explained it that way in 1969. 

I like how Paul toyed with David Letterman during his appearance on Letterman's show....

Paul:  “I mean, you know, I just laughed at it and knew it was just because of the fame and the craziness. It was American DJs, so you guys are to blame. Not you personally, but – no, the thing is you know, I just laughed it off, but it was a little bit strange ‘cause people did start looking at me like, ‘Is it, is it him or a very good double?’”

Letterman:  “Well, that was the idea.  That was the other part of it, that there was a guy who looked like you taking your place,”

Paul:  (pointing to himself) "Well, no, this is him...(then smiling at the audience)...or is it?"
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: MrsStarkey on December 23, 2009, 06:16:25 AM
I saw someone quote someone on this thread, but I couldn't find the post that they quoted, but it said that Ringo's eyes were blue and the double's was not, and that was the reason he wears sunglasses all the time. Well, I was looking on the Ringo official website, like always, and I watched this video: http://media.ringostarr.com/video//2009-12-21/Update_20091209_350X180.mov (http://media.ringostarr.com/video//2009-12-21/Update_20091209_350X180.mov). You can see his eyes through his sunglasses and they are blue. ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on January 04, 2010, 05:26:03 AM
Right.  His double wears darker shades for that reason.     :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: MissMcCartney on January 05, 2010, 06:29:12 AM
We all pretty much explained it that way in 1969. 

I like how Paul toyed with David Letterman during his appearance on Letterman's show....

Paul:  “I mean, you know, I just laughed at it and knew it was just because of the fame and the craziness. It was American DJs, so you guys are to blame. Not you personally, but – no, the thing is you know, I just laughed it off, but it was a little bit strange ‘cause people did start looking at me like, ‘Is it, is it him or a very good double?’”

Letterman:  “Well, that was the idea.  That was the other part of it, that there was a guy who looked like you taking your place,”

Paul:  (pointing to himself) "Well, no, this is him...(then smiling at the audience)...or is it?"

Lucky audience, I have a mini heart attack every time Paul smiles!
He smiles like a little kid, it's adorable!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: MissMcCartney on January 05, 2010, 06:50:18 AM
I saw a guy today wearing a "PAUL IS DEAD!" shirt.  I just stared and stared.

 >:( >:( >:( >:(  Gaaah!

Omg!
Let him rot in hell.
HOW DARE HE! >:(
Agh! I am sooo mad now.
I hate that guy.
Grrr.

Oh, now I'll have to watch endless clips of Paulie on YouTube to satisfy my needs :D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: MissMcCartney on January 05, 2010, 06:51:44 AM
in Abby Road, Paul barefoot and expresses that he is not connected to ground, ie, dead ...
Besides in the song "strawberry fields forever" section made by the song backwards.
 John says: "I buried Paul".
sed hh.... :'(

In an interview with John Lennon, he said that he didn't say 'I buried Paul', he said 'cranberry sauce'.
It made me so happy, even though I knew Paul wasn't dead. :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: sgt. peppie on February 06, 2010, 03:52:11 AM
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj307/oldiesbutgoodies_photos/MagicalMysteryTour.jpg?t=1199059049)

Well, Paul's the one in the hippo suit, he's the only one with his coat slightly opened, and it could represent an open wound.  :P
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: I_Will on February 06, 2010, 04:05:45 AM
^^Haha nice one
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 10, 2010, 03:42:18 PM
Hi Everybody:

I hate to burst your bubbles that many of you think that THE REAL Paul McCartney is alive.  The person you are seeing today is the FAKE, and he is known as the FAUL McCartney.

Now many of you will say whoa wait just a minute here.  Please do that and do some investigating if you like, and you will eventually find out for yourself.

The last known official appearance of the Real Paul McCartney was on September 16, 1966 when he was attending a shindig holding a wine glass and posing for some pics with two other people who were at the party.  This is the last known official Paul himself to the best of the experts knowledge of him being ALIVE.  After this date to around the middle of October of 1966, it is surely presumed that something definitely happened to the Real Paul, and that something the REAL PAUL McCARTNEY was never seen again up to the present time and its still counting.  The fakes and the Faul McCartney began appearing in November of 1966 more than you care to realize.

Here is some of the evidence known to date.  The vocal chord octaves between the real Paul and the Fake Paul that you see today DO NOT MATCH.  Number two, the skull structure of the Fake vs the Real Paul does not match.  Number 3, up to now no known official photo of the Real Paul has surfaced since September 16, 1966.  Number 4 the Faul has many scars on his face in the efforts to make him look like the Real Paul.  In Fact we do have a pic of the Fakes real mother and it matches.  Oh wow, and you will see it yourself, and its not a mistake folks.

There is more, the FAKE does not even look close to the Real Pauls FATHER!!!  Also the genetics of the Family line is well known and this FAKE FAUL does not even come close.  Besides this, there is conclusive evidence PROVING that the Faul you see today is genuinely and definitely not the Real Paul McCartney.  Add the handwriting too, and the side of the face too!!!!  If you look close enough you will see the obvious difference.

To make it simple for you to understand.  Once the skull is fully grown, it is permanent.  You cannot change the skull.  What we have today is two different skulls, One is The Real Paul and the other is the Faul.  They do not match up not even close.  When you see this, it makes you begin to wonder.

Ah you want more.  Seek and you shall find.  The announcement by the DJ many years ago did not realize it at that time that something did happen to the Real Paul, and it was unknown to him and many others that it was actually TRUE TO ITS WORD.

The reason why we can say this now, is because of the latest technology.  Don't forget to add the retina of the eye patterns, and most of all the zinger being the DNA.  This DNA is your spinal cracker.

Listen to the song of Come Together.  Its all there if any of you like to have a start someplace.  From there start looking around.

So if any of you want to say this is not true, THEN PROVE IT with a genuine official photo of the Real Paul with the official date of that photo imprinted on the photo itself, and I can assure you that you will not be able to do so, because the REAL Paul is not around.

If by per-se chance that the Real Paul shows up on the radar screen it is suicide and how to explain the Faul himself ehhhhhh.  There you go.

The comments made from the Faul to Letterman is very typical, as the Fake himself definitely knows it was a dangerous piece of territory and one mistake would reveal everything.  So the Fake will say as little as possible and the defense he gave was minimum at best. 

John Lennon once said to the Fake Paul on one of his letters as quoted:  You better see right thru that womans eyes!!!!  Yes there are official letters between the Fake and John Lennon that has been obtained.

The shindig on the roof when the song GET BACK came out in January of 1969, was a test run to see how the FAKE will perform and do with the group out in the open, but guess what, it was done on the roof of a building of which the public cannot get a good look at the players.  It was here on that recording the voice analysis was done, and viola we do have a FAKE singing as Faul McCartney.

The only true real survivor right now is Ringo!!!!  The last man standing as all the others are DEAD.

So you will then come to me and ask me what happened to the REAL Paul??  None of us knows at current time, but we do know the Real Paul has not shown up at all since September 16, 1966 up to present time.  We do know he disappeared never to be seen again after that party in England, but what happened to him or how it happened we simply do not know.  The Come Together song pretty much gives you some good hints and details describing about what may have happened to the Real Paul.  Without the body at current moment, we cannot verify it.

We also know that the real John Lennon is DEAD, and we also know that the real George Harrison is DEAD.  This is all official.  Speaking of about John Lennon to say a few words, David Chapman was actually set up, unknown to him by two people, and he was not the person who killed John.  He was there for something else, and he did accomplished it and as it turns out he was there at the wrong time and place when John got shot.  One very good piece of evidence can prove it, as there is no way a bullet can make a 90 degree turn to hit the left side on the back when David Chapman was verified to be on the right side of Lennon at the time he was shot.  You can pretty much zero in who the killer was.  Don't let that escape you or let it deny you.  When you realize a few things from that investigation, it will come to you as a shock and the real killer is still walking around free as a bird.  It is not often that a innocent person gets blamed for something they did not do as most of the time the killers do get caught.  Now ask yourself this question >  Why would someone simply sit on a curb across the place where John got shot? Duh???? Usually when someone shoots someone they get the hell out of there and do their best to escape and not get caught.  Even if you are mental in the head you will still run like hell!!!!  This guy Chapman was simply sitting on the curb!!!!!!  It was this part that caught the attention of some well respected attorneys, and they hired some experts and  investigated the entire case and their findings will shock you indeed. The investigation clears Chapman of the killing.  I will leave you the clue of who the real killer is from the song of Come Together>  """He got ONO sideboard""""

Good Luck

Daveyo

 



Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 10, 2010, 11:04:36 PM
Welcome to the forums Daveyo. Hope you'll enjoy them. ha2ha
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: maclen on March 11, 2010, 12:19:53 AM
wow. somebody got some serious issues..  2ch
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 11, 2010, 02:54:49 AM
Hey Daveyo.....use the search feature to find other like-minded believers and reports around here. Have you only just discovered this theory? You sure like Come Together eh? lol
I have that Chapman theory book somewhere. I think most things can be magnified and distorted, especially when it involves The Beatles. One things for sure, he don't sound like the Macca from 66....wonder why that is?....No way? It couldn't be old age could it?  :o
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 11, 2010, 07:28:43 AM
Hi,

No I don't have a serious problem at all.  I also knew the issues about Chapman and its not a theory either.  The information was received by a well respected attorney, and yes it was discussed and debated and the scenarios were played out to see just how it happen on a physical sense.

One of the key points is the deskperson.  That person did not even know John was shot, because Yoko ran up to him screaming he was shot?  Isn't this kinda odd?  Another was about the driver of the car that night.  He says Yoko exited the car last, which would me she would be behind him because he said John was already walking inside ahead of her.  This is in the police reports not from me.  Also there are people who live around the complex, and it would have echoed all over the place.  Strange that no one even heard the multi shots being fired?  With this in mind the one part that they are certain of is there had to be a silencer used that night.

Anyway in concern of the Real Paul, many still think the Real Paul exists now and is alive.  What I am trying to point out to these specific people that it is not so, and asking them to examine it a bit further.  I am not out to tell them this or that, they need to see this for themselves and form their own opinion, but sadly it is very hard to do so when faced with outright reality.  Prior for many years we did not have that opportunity to explore all this and the internet really became of age in the 90"s. 

I do see what people wrote here.  It sure needs to be told and to point them in the right directions.

Since we all know he has not shown up officially since September 16, 1966 from that English shindig in London, a lot of years have past by.  I would say in about another 10 more years we can officially say that he is dead if he does not show up on the radar screen anywhere in the world.  So if anyone by sheer luck or by per se change just happen to catch him someplace alive after 1966, I really would like to see it and have it examined.  To this day, no one has seen him.  It is always the Faul that they see.

The Beatles were unique human beings.  Very special indeed as this was the only group I think that actually changed the music world and society almost overnight.  They were just a pure simple group of 4 guys singing their music and their music was a great departure from the 50's type of music, and so was their hairstyle etc.  No fireworks or pyrotechnics etc, or huge screens etc, and quite frankly their own amplifiers just barely had enough.  They had Vox amplifiers.  I have never seen any bands since this group, to bow down to the people after playing a song all the time.  I was fortunate to see this group back in the 60's as many of those people during that time period today are dead.  We are all fading out.  So it is up to the last originals meaning us the public who were present at that time to let the world know you do have a imposter portraying the Real Paul, and whats worse taking the title of Sir that was bestowed upon the Real Paul himself by the Queen herself.  Why rob this person his true identity and himself.

We do have that happening today on some people who have their actual identity taken and the massive headaches that come with it.

Thanks for welcoming me to the forum.  I do appreciate it.  I hope this place strives to find the real truth and state the real truth as all of us are compelled to do so to set the records straight for the future generations that is soon to come when they want to take a good long hard look at the Beatles and other groups.

The Beatles were just like any other rock band.  They had their ups and downs, their arguments, their fights, their cooperation and feelings and emotions etc.  They were not angels either.  Just looking at the schedule that they had I can understand why they were so burned out by end of 66.  EWF for example, their schedule is well spaced out with time to relax and have a personal life.  That is why they are still around.  Its not easy to keep a band together for 30 to 40 years and more.  Very hard to do.  The other band with many years of 30 plus is the Rolling Stones.  From 1900 to 1999 the three best solo singers to exist is Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson and the honorable mention is James Brown, Stevie Wonder and a few others.  The best Bands I would say is the Beatles, EWF, Commodores, Rolling Stones and honorable mentions like the Beach Boys, Paul Revere and the Raiders and a few others like Kiss etc.  All of these shaped up music like never before.  So I would say the Age of Music occurred from the middle 50's up to middle 80's.  Rapping music and punk music is for the birds.  Other people might see this differently but this is my opinion for myself.

If I had a wish to the Shining Star, I would wish to see the Beatles perform again live, would wish to see James Brown, and Mike Jackson.  Jackson may not have looked that great as we all know, after he destroyed his face for some funky reason, but his type of music was darn very good by itself notwithstanding his personal problems he had out in society.  His performances and showmanship is hard to forget.  I was lucky to meet him in person, to talk to him and see him, as well as being with the Commodores in Chicago that one special night I had with them because I took the relatives belonging to a Commodore player to see them in person.  Courtesy of Willie King.  The place was at the Hotel Washington in Chicago.  I have many pics of me being with them.  Stayed with them till late morning hours and left around 5 AM.  It was a rare booking that the Commodores and Michael Jackson were to perfom the same place for two nights.  Usually this does not happen.

Anyway, thanks again for your welcome message.

Daveyo








Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 11, 2010, 09:13:18 AM
Maybe you should write a book.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on March 11, 2010, 10:33:12 AM
Since we all know he has not shown up officially since September 16, 1966 from that English shindig in London, a lot of years  Jackson may not have looked that great as we all know, after he destroyed his face for some funky reason, but his type of music was darn very good by itself notwithstanding his personal problems he had out in society.  His performances and showmanship is hard to forget.  I was lucky to meet him in person, to talk to him and see him,

Sorry - I've got ask - how do you know it was Michael Jackson, what with all that face changing and disapearing from public?  Because he said he was? Because most of the world believes he is? Didn't you demand proof? Gosh, I think you may have been hoodwinked by a double. An imposter. How could you let yourself be so easily fooled?
I admire your dedication/obsession to/with your cause. But perspective my friend is a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 11, 2010, 11:04:24 AM
Daveyo,

Obviously you have every right to believe whatever you want to believe.

But if your theory is right, that would mean they found someone:

- Who sounded, talked and sang exactly like Paul
- Who looked exactly like Paul
- Who had the same wit and charisma as Paul
- Who could write international #1 hits just like Paul
- Who in fact was arguably more talented than Paul, because the album widely regarded as the Beatles' best was made after the "real" Paul died
- Who could play bass and guitar exactly like Paul did
- Who was left-handed like Paul
- Who also had a Liverpudlian accent, or has been able to fake it for decades without ever falling out of his role
- Who in fact was so identical in every way to Paul, one of the most popular and famous people on the planet at the time, that he had hundreds of millions of people fooled for 44 years
- Who was willing to leave his own life behind, to this day has cut all ties with his old relatives and friends and somehow has never been reported missing
- Who does not have a single relative, friend or acquaintance from his old life who since 1966 has recognized him as the person that he actually is
- Who has been able to keep such a big secret for 44 years

And on top of that, nobody who prior to 1966 was close to either the real or the fake Paul McCartney ever "spilled the beans" in the past 44 years (though it no doubt would've been very lucrative).

Also, how did The Beatles, who weren't even able to cross the street unnoticed, manage to secretly find this mysterious "Faul" person and prepare him for his new role, all in a matter of a couple of weeks?

Furthermore, why would they have gone through all the trouble of replacing a dead/missing person with a look-a-like? It's common knowledge that dying is pretty much the best thing you can possibly do to boost your record sales.

It all seems a bit unlikely, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 12, 2010, 07:50:18 AM
Hi Joost;

I do appreciate your post, and do agree everybody has a right to believer whatever it may be.

I would like to comment sort of from what you said.  OK. 

The sound is way off, because the vocal chord octaves are not the same.  This is well known and proven by experts who did analyzed it.  For most people they will not notice it that much, ( and I definitely did notice the change back in 1969 when Get Back came out but I could not pinpoint it at that time of why) but when you combine the vocals of Faul with the real John together singing it becomes quite obvious provided you really study and listen and hear the voices of the real Paul, and of John for the years they were together.  Every person alive today has a different vocal octave, and its another tool just like fingerprints.  None are the same anywhere in the world.

Next the looks was all done surgically.  You have to see and take a close look at all the scars that the Faul has on his face.  In fact he does have one scar in the adams apple area and had it shaved off.  The biggest tip off was the ears my friend.  This they could not duplicate it, and if you look at the real Paul vs the Faul you will see this glaring difference.  Another is the skull itself, and they do not match. Skulls become permanent when fully grown.  Yes you can alter the jawbone, the cheekbone, the adams apple etcs, put in fillers to the face but you cannot change the skull.  Another is the entire physical aspects.  Why all of a sudden is this Faul taller than the others.  You can see this when you compare them together.  The three had the same height except for Ringo who was smaller than the others.  Watch their concerts and you will see.  On the Get Back the Faul is definitely taller and bigger here than the others and was flapping his right hand on the fret board which is very unusual for a Bass.  I myself play the Bass too, and noticed this but most people will not even twink an eye to see this themselves.

The wit and charisma is different.  Again you must study the real Paul vs the Faul and you will begin to see it.  Its very different between the two of them but again who took the time to also notice this?

The Faul is not really talented and don't forget they can remix and add vocals and change the vocals etc.  Example, Michael Jackson, when he sang he wanted to keep the same voice pitch even at the age of 50 and at this point it is very difficult but with the tuning they have on the mixers it can be adjusted to keep and sound the same deal.  Not hard to do.

The Faul was born and raised around Liverpool so the accent will be there. 

Yes with a lot of practice and training one can learn to play bass and guitar, left handed.  It takes time but it can be achieved.

I am right handed but like to hit the balls left handed playing baseball.  I throw right handed. So I am sort of like a switch hitter, be it a left handed or right handed pitcher.  Ok   

Yes I agree that this Faul has fooled people for the last 44 years.  That is why today, the real Paul will never show up now, because we are almost convinced something terribly happened during the early Fall of 66 resulting his disappearance from public view never to be seen again.  The letters from the late John really is quite to the point with his warnings to the Faul.

Yes it is not hard to sever the ties to your past provided you have the right help given to you.  Today they do have this under the Federal Protection Protocols for witnesses etc that are important or certain people they need to protect.  They will change your entire identity from top to bottom, issue new backgrounds, and whatever else is needed.  Also they have surgery done to alter their looks and are relocated to a very much different area where no one knows you at all.  Basically you start fresh right from the top on down.

Yes the secret has been kept for all these years with the help of certain individuals etc.  In the beginning it is very hard to do, but as time goes on it gets easier, and it does also create a lot of strain to the fake in the beginning, but once this fake begins to be accepted by others then the rest follows.  There are certain people that we do know that have this knowledge, but are totally frightened to even mention it for fear of their life and their families.  They are monitored day and night.  If they so much as want to spill the beans as you say, they will have a unfortunate accident happening to them resulting their death.  There are professional killers in this world who do this for a living and these are so good they will never get caught.

No this Faul was trained for minimum of three years very quietly.  In fact the training continued up to the 80's and so was the surgical techniques over the course of time.  In the meantime any professional can make these albums to look like the real Paul.  Prior to doing the scene on that street they practiced it enough to get it right. Then they did the real thing and that was it. Photograph snapped and done.  If you were to go to see the old western towns in America, or when they do the movies, it can be made to look very real.  What about this one movie called 2012.  There is no way you can have water rise up 6 miles which would be Mount Everest around the globe and be able to still breathe in that thin air and see land breaking up and falling into the sea like it showed and at the end Africa somehow rises up quite a few thousand feet so its above the water line .  If this happened the planet would explode from the earths core pressure.   Yet they were able to make the scenes appear real which makes a good movie for many around the world.

The same can be done for humans too, and yes one can find someone very close being the near exact copy.  Hmmmm, I once went to a bar many years ago, and one person came up to me telling I made the best drinks and was the best bartender he has ever seen.  I myself never was a bartender my entire life, but this person swore up and down it was me and so did several other people besides him.  So it dawned on me that it might be my long lost brother.  I was adopted so it is possible.  Never pursued it and today I wish I had pursued it to find this person.

On your last sentence, today yes it can be quite lucrative, and yet it can get quite messy too.  For the Beatles to announce the death of Paul, I am not sure what would have happened since this never took place, and I would think the higher ups feared their demise, so ...............  such was done to preserve the Beatles legacy, because they were on top of the world as a group probably bigger than Jesus as John Lennon once said.  They tried in 1969 for their comeback with a new person, but it did not work out because they could not get along with this Faul at all and were too afraid of the consequences together, and they already started something that they could not reverse.  In fact the Fauls voice is so obvious at the very end!!!!  So...... they split up.  Each to their own.  Again I might be wrong here but it seems to be the only logical explanation as to why they kept it going.  Yes Money was another part of the equation into this deal plus other tie ins that affected them.

To kevin, MJ is dead absolutely.  When I met Jackson at the Hotel Washington, he was the original uno ono and he got all that changing done about 8 years later.  He drank Orange Juice with me, and we the Commodores and Jackson and I and the relatives sat in the hallway discussing many things of many topics etc., and I even discussed some private stuff with him that night too.  What he said to me was very private, and I will keep it that way because it was never reported to this day out in the public.  Yes, his statements to me is quite lucrative, but out of respect for him and his request I will honor it and take it to my grave.  Yes Lionel Ritchie, Orange and King were near me and quite frankly in spite of their stardom status, they were all normal people just like you and I.  Today Orange is dead RIP.

Anyway, with all that face changing MJ did, who in the world would want to look exactly like him as a copy.  I know I wouldn't.  Something happened to him mentally but I do not know what it was, since all that took place after my encounter with him in 77.  And also you cannot find a person who can dance and move around like MJ did.  In such short notice.  Impossible.  Two autopsies done verify its the real MJ, and the coroner's statement, and the funeral home and of course the police too.  Naw, no imposter around today, and MJ is definitely dead and buried in steel and concrete.  RIP  He ended up being a junkie and wanted to sleep and sleep he got which is permanent.  Propofol is illegal to have personally, and it is closely monitored, yet Doctors can get it themselves, but such is recorded.  Its primarily used in hospitals.  Combined this with all the other drugs he was taking that same 12 hour time period, it became lethal.  Look what happened to Corey Haim and a few others, and truthfully I say to you, we all are druggies to some extent like it or not, and we do live in a drug induced society!!.  Find me one person who has not gotten a vaccination shot, or taken asprin, or gotten a flu shot, or taken over the counter items etc or never been injected with drugs to reduce pain etc., their entire life and I will pay for a Gold medal if authentic.  We all have gotten it in our lives at one time or another.  Even the illegal stuff too.  Whoooooooo man.

Hmmm, look at what Toyota did.  They covered up a lot all these years, and don't think that GM or Ford did not either.  Some get exposed and others escape being noticed.  Corruption rules on this planet even in your own homes like it or not.  Its the way of life.  Everybody looks for the angle to get ahead, and has been since humans started regardless of what you do.  Sooner or later some do pay the price for their greed, and others seem to slide right by unscathed.  This part is reality so........you're either damned if you do or damned if you don't.  Take your pick.

Like I said I am most fortunate to have been present and see and to hear and to witness some of the best musicians ever play, even be with them in person and for that I cherish it fondly in my memory.  It is something that cannot be repeated ever again.  I think all of us feel that way from time to time.  We all have something special involving our lives, and if it is good, then do your best to remember it and not forget it.  When it touches us it is indeed a small precious gift, and once gone its gone forever.  This is how I feel about the Beatles and other things that came into my life.

Daveyo



 



     
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: maclen on March 12, 2010, 10:28:42 AM
Is this really the kind of forum where those conspiracy-guys have a platform? Really, this kind of Paul/Faul obsessed people recently started to spam everywhere. I just signed up to this forum to have a peaceful and happy Beatles chat once in a while and again: there is one of them.

Really?

"The reason why we can say this now, is because of the latest technology.  Don't forget to add the retina of the eye patterns, and most of all the zinger being the DNA.  This DNA is your spinal cracker."
"The Faul is not really talented and don't forget they can remix and add vocals and change the vocals etc."
"No this Faul was trained for minimum of three years very quietly.  In fact the training continued up to the 80's and so was the surgical techniques over the course of time."
"There is more, the FAKE does not even look close to the Real Pauls FATHER!!!  Also the genetics of the Family line is well known and this FAKE FAUL does not even come close."




Stuff like that is not really an opinion, to me it is blatant gibberish and trolling.


I appeal to the mods, to let this forum be a place for fans who don't want to fight with obsessed conspiracy theorists. please!

 2ch   :(

 
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 12, 2010, 10:55:18 AM
As long as people respect each other's opinions I think it's OK. I'll believe in Santa Claus before I'll believe that whole "Faul" theory, but I can't say I'm not enjoying Daveyo's stories so far.  ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on March 12, 2010, 11:59:51 AM
I am loathe to ban or censor anyone because they say or believe things different to the norm. And let's face it, The Paul Is Dead thing is a fun bit of The Beatles story.
And damn, if Daveyo doesn't actually seem sincere. I know he takes his crusade around the forums, and generally is met by a torrent of abuse, but....
- as long as he doesn't post the same thing over and over again
- doesn't clog the place up with mile long posts
- remains (or appears to be) sincere, rather than some a*se just trying to cause trouble, then I don't have a problem.

To be honest, people like this (I'm thinking Fanoffab4 and the catholic guy) tend to arrive in a blase of glory and then just as quickly disapear. They prefer to rant rather than discuss. They prefer confrontation. They're our Beatle Westboro Baptists or Beatle Talebans.
If the majority think they're being silly, the majority should just ignore them, or smile, and they soon get p*ssed off and disapear. Banning them or getting angry is what they want.
But I think Daveyo might turn out to be a decent enough chap who might want to join in other threads as well.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The Swine on March 12, 2010, 12:05:08 PM
i rather read his bollocks than teenage girls sh*t about highschool
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on March 12, 2010, 12:57:19 PM
i rather read his bollocks than teenage girls sh*t about highschool

 :) Not exactly my choice of words, but I agree with your general thrust. We all come here for different reasons.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 12, 2010, 06:25:21 PM
Sorry if my posts were too long for you.  The point I was trying to say with the proof included so you wouldn't doubt me, is something happened to the real Paul in 66, and I wish this being not so, but he has never been seen since up to now.  

How other people will respond when the truth is revealed remains to be seen but at least I told you the truth.  Please accept my apologys if I annoyed you in any way.  I would like to go to the thread of John Lennon, but I am afraid because of what I see here.  I have information about John Lennon, submitted to me from a Attorney who investigated the incident himself.   This attorney is one of the most respected people and he made a lot of sense from his findings which most of us today are not aware of.  So I would like to walk tip toe now.   

Daveyo
 ;sorry
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 12, 2010, 07:23:04 PM
The point I was trying to say with the proof included so you wouldn't doubt me
No offense, but what proof? All you've presented so far are theories. "Investigators say..." or "scientists found out that..." doesn't mean anything unless you can at least give us some names, numbers and details. The shape of his skull changed? Says who and where's the undeniable proof? His voice changed? Which experts confirm this? He just learned how to play bass and guitar with his wrong hand? That's possible, but I can assure you that if you're going to train a right-handed adult (the older you are, the slower you learn) to play bass and guitar with his left hand, it'll take him many years before he'll be as good as Paul was at the time, if he'll ever get there at all.

I could go on and on. To be honest, this whole theory has so many plot holes that a fiction writer would never get away with it.

I have information about John Lennon, submitted to me from a Attorney who investigated the incident himself.   This attorney is one of the most respected people
Some of the greatest swindlers in history were smart, respectable people in high positions.

Again, no offense here, you seem to me like a nice guy who's trying to get his point accross without stepping on any toes and I really respect that, but if you want us to believe such a wild story, you're going to have to come up with some pretty darn good evidence. :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 12, 2010, 10:23:19 PM
Hi Joost

Been trying to put the pics in and the upload folder is full.  How is it possible, and I just joined as the three pics total only 72kb which is small.  1 set is 39kb and the other is 33 kb.

Are we allowed to post pics here or not.

Daveyo

If not I do have an alternative but you will have to click on the link to see it, but I would rather have it here in the forum so people can see.

Any suggestions.   I see also the Admin has the older version of SMF.  The update should be 1.1.11  I have SMF too and my own site.  I have the latest and of course they are already into 2.0RC
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: stevie on March 13, 2010, 12:14:15 AM
This guy who might've replaced Paul is either William Campbell or Billy Shears, correct?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 13, 2010, 08:00:56 AM
Hi Steve

The answer to your question is  ;yes  That is the one that is playing today and is the Faul, and I am trying to upload some pics here and its still a problem.  Anybody know how to upload on this site and get it to show up?  The members here want to see the proof.  I can also prove definitely the person who played on the last gig in 69 on the roof top is the Faul too.  No doubt about it.

Would appreciate it.

Daveyo
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 13, 2010, 08:39:21 AM
Hi All

Try this link and you should see this first pic.  Hope it works.

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/Daveyo/Fauls%20Album/paul_faul_ear_lobe.jpg)



Daveyo
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 13, 2010, 11:35:29 AM
Hi All

Try this link and you should see this first pic.  Hope it works.

[url]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/Daveyo/Fauls%20Album/paul_faul_ear_lobe.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/Daveyo/Fauls%20Album/paul_faul_ear_lobe.jpg[/url])



Daveyo


Sorry, but what is this supposed to prove? His ear looks different? Isn't it common knowledge that many men get bigger ear lobes as they get older?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 13, 2010, 02:30:54 PM
Hi Joost

I am trying to do this as best as I can so what I am doing is transferring a lot of files over to the photobucket site so you and others can see the evidence.  it gets even better as you begin to see it yourself.

The ears joost is like the fingerprints of a person.  The ears do not change over time and it points straight to the genetics of the person from the parents.  Ears don't get bigger or smaller once fully grown. It is like the skull.  Fingerprints do not change as you get older either.  That too is permanent.

As to the pic that I started this is what you need to look for besides the entire ear.

James Paul McCartney ear lobe is completely "attached" to the skin of his mandible.
Faul's ear lobe is perfectly separated from the skin of his mandible.

Police departments also use this for positive identification of people as well. being one of their tools.  Besides the DNA, or fingerprints or the eye retina and skull.  The coroners do this all the time to verify dead bodies.  The Police and FBI use the other means first to identify people.

What you see here pertaining to the ears being completely different is quite how should I say it, very damning because it certainly raises up a huge pandora's box.  I have pics of George Harrison of his ears and it never changed since 1966 to the time of his death.  I also have pics of John from the 60's up to his death, and it remained the same.  Even Ringo was compared and it never changed all these years.

I even tested myself to convince myself as well.  I took pics of me when I was around 22 and now almost 60 years old and it is still the same - and it never changed.  If you have pics of yourself when you were around 22 and if you are say like 60 or 40 take a look and you will see yours still remain the same over the years.

I will post more so give me a chance to arrange it.

Thanks

Daveyo
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: I_Will on March 13, 2010, 03:20:37 PM
Ears don't get bigger or smaller once fully grown.

Actually, they do. Your ears and nose never stop growing.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: lunchpunch on March 13, 2010, 04:33:28 PM
I was interested in his thoughts on the conspiracy theory.
...until I read this:

Speaking of about John Lennon to say a few words, David Chapman was actually set up, unknown to him by two people, and he was not the person who killed John.  He was there for something else, and he did accomplished it and as it turns out he was there at the wrong time and place when John got shot.  One very good piece of evidence can prove it, as there is no way a bullet can make a 90 degree turn to hit the left side on the back when David Chapman was verified to be on the right side of Lennon at the time he was shot.  You can pretty much zero in who the killer was.  Don't let that escape you or let it deny you.  When you realize a few things from that investigation, it will come to you as a shock and the real killer is still walking around free as a bird.  It is not often that a innocent person gets blamed for something they did not do as most of the time the killers do get caught.  Now ask yourself this question >  Why would someone simply sit on a curb across the place where John got shot? Duh???? Usually when someone shoots someone they get the hell out of there and do their best to escape and not get caught.  Even if you are mental in the head you will still run like hell!!!!  This guy Chapman was simply sitting on the curb!!!!!!  It was this part that caught the attention of some well respected attorneys, and they hired some experts and  investigated the entire case and their findings will shock you indeed. The investigation clears Chapman of the killing.  I will leave you the clue of who the real killer is from the song of Come Together>  """He got ONO sideboard""""


Then I said...
(http://i41.tinypic.com/207w4jn.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 13, 2010, 05:32:43 PM
Actually, they do. Your ears and nose never stop growing.

I disagree, your ears and nose once grown do not change.  Mine haven't for the last 40 years.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 13, 2010, 05:35:32 PM
Hi Lunch

I see you posted two pics here.  The one that says huh is the Faul, and the one on the bottom is the Real Paul.  Definitely two different people.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 13, 2010, 05:57:37 PM
I forgot to mention about Billy Shears, and he is a natural left handed person.  Billy Shears and the Faul you see today is the same person.  The ear and the lobes match.  By the way there is a 45 + years spread between these two shots and these same two ears definitely did not grow or shrink either.

Just curious has anyone seen Faul's mother?  I myself when I first saw it, I could not believe how similar they both look side by side so I made an inquiry and questioned it at length and as it turns out its Fauls mother.

I will post the ears shortly as I get it put together for you.

Thanks for your patience as the uploading takes time.

Daveyo
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on March 13, 2010, 06:26:57 PM
Quote
Speaking of about John Lennon to say a few words, David Chapman was actually set up, unknown to him by two people, and he was not the person who killed John.  He was there for something else, and he did accomplished it and as it turns out he was there at the wrong time and place when John got shot.  One very good piece of evidence can prove it, as there is no way a bullet can make a 90 degree turn to hit the left side on the back when David Chapman was verified to be on the right side of Lennon at the time he was shot.  You can pretty much zero in who the killer was.  Don't let that escape you or let it deny you.  When you realize a few things from that investigation, it will come to you as a shock and the real killer is still walking around free as a bird.  It is not often that a innocent person gets blamed for something they did not do as most of the time the killers do get caught.  Now ask yourself this question >  Why would someone simply sit on a curb across the place where John got shot? Duh? Usually when someone shoots someone they get the hell out of there and do their best to escape and not get caught.  Even if you are mental in the head you will still run like hell!!!!  This guy Chapman was simply sitting on the curb!!!!!!  It was this part that caught the attention of some well respected attorneys, and they hired some experts and  investigated the entire case and their findings will shock you indeed. The investigation clears Chapman of the killing.  I will leave you the clue of who the real killer is from the song of Come Together>  """He got ONO sideboard""""


Alright, many people in my family work with mentally ill people, and there are a few in my family (I.E. Schitzophrenia runs in my family) and in most cases a mentally ill person wouldn't run. For one reason, they would think what they did was the right thing. They believe people would agree with them about shooting John, he most likely thought the world wanted him gone and they would praise him for it. Also, someone like Chapman most likely ran through the scenerio so many times in his head that he knew exactly what he was going to do. But he forgot what would happen to him after his deed was done. He maybe froze up and didn't know know what to do, or he thought that they would take John away and he would go on his way. So those are two legit reasons he might have not ran for his life. There's probably a thousand other reasons someone mentally ill might not run, so just because he didn't run away doesn't mean he didn't kill John.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 13, 2010, 07:35:01 PM
The ears joost is like the fingerprints of a person.  The ears do not change over time

For a lot of people they most certainly do. My grandfather, as I knew him, had huge ears. But on pictures of him as a young man they looked perfectly normal.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 13, 2010, 07:54:07 PM
I forgot to mention about Billy Shears, and he is a natural left handed person.

No, you didn't forget to mention that, you in fact denied that several posts ago. You wrote that he was a righty who learned to play with his left hand. I wrote that it's highly unlikely that he got so good with his left hand in such a short amount of time, and now you suddenly remember he was a lefty after all?

Sorry, but I think your story keeps getting more unlikely as you go. There was a guy who looked AND sounded like Paul, AND was the same age, AND also was from Liverpool, AND was also left-handed, AND also sang and played bass and guitar, AND was just as good as Paul, AND had the same charisma and way of talking, AND he was willing to give up his own life? And you believe this because you think his ears look a bit different now than they did 45 years ago?

So far, you wouldn't have a very strong case if you were an attorney and this were a court room, sir.  ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: I_Will on March 13, 2010, 09:54:21 PM
I disagree, your ears and nose once grown do not change.  Mine haven't for the last 40 years.

Well I actually was a bit mistaken, however
"That doesn’t mean the size of people’s ears and noses doesn’t continue to increase as they age, O’Brien says. These facial features increase in length because the cartilage and skin lose elasticity, causing them to appear droopy. And gravity pulls those loose fibers downward, adding to the saggy appearance", says Robert Kotler, M.D., a cosmetic surgeon in Beverly Hills, Calif.

I know that looking at photos of my grandfather, and looking at him now, there is CERTAINLY a difference.

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 14, 2010, 02:18:08 PM
Hi

Ok here is Billy Shears when he was a young lad as the Brits say, around 24 years old.  And of course look at his ears carefully.  Then it will zoom up in time to the current Faul of today.  Take note of his ears too.

They are exact and it pretty much zeros in on who the Faul more likely really is.

Also here are two pics showing the last authentic official sighting of the Real Paul posing on as dated on the pic September 13, 1966.  The party continued into September 14, 1966.  This took place in England.  Some references about Paul was made around the 15th, and nothing from the 16th on up to now.

I did not mention anything about Billy Shears in my previous posts and the first time I mentioned it when I told you I forgot to say something about him.  You have to keep in mind, I did not do all the dirty work folks or do all the coverup.  I am just a normal person like you, and gradually those who have a genuine interest to investigate the matter themselves are slowly finding out the truth.  Don't blame me for all this, I did not do the coverup I did not commit the Fraud of the Century.  I am merely trying to show you something that should pique your interest and I am sure out of curiosity you would like to know many answers to your questions.  I am not Mr. Know it all.  I don't have all the answers but can only be realistic about this, and voice my opinion on it as logically as I can.  I am not saying he is dead full 100% but I am saying the odds definitely favor him being dead at this point of time more than 85%.   I am allowing that small possibility if somehow he suddenly should appear out of nowhere as some are thinking he is still alive.  But I will say in about 5 years from now he is officially dead if nothing changes between now and at that time. The bubble I am talking about is the surprise that the Faul is not the Real Paul as the vast majority today think he is as shown.

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/Daveyo/Fauls%20Album/ears2.gif)

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/Daveyo/Genuine%20Beatles%20Album/LastPicsofPaul266.jpg)

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/Daveyo/Genuine%20Beatles%20Album/LastPicsofPaulin66.jpg)

Then I will show you the Fauls mother and of the incredible similarities between them.  This woman by the way as I understand it her name is Pauline.  I don't know too much about the background on it, but there are people who are quite familiar about her.



Thanks for your patience

Daveyo
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 14, 2010, 03:28:41 PM
Can you show us the 1st official pic of Faul after 66 then please? This would clear a lot up surely? Not really getting that earlobe thing mate. Nose looks a good match too. Lips are thinner some 40years later though.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 14, 2010, 04:23:14 PM
[url]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/Daveyo/Fauls%20Album/ears2.gif[/url] ([url]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/Daveyo/Fauls%20Album/ears2.gif[/url])


I'm pretty sure that's one and the same person. Apart from the age difference I see no differences to speak of.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 14, 2010, 07:49:25 PM
To An Apple Beatle the Admin

I will post it for you and its a time line post of pics and there are over 40 of them.  I do have the first appearance late 66 and I also have pics way prior to this too in showing how he was transformed over time.  Please let me know how you want me to present it, so you can see for yourself with all due respect.   But you need to know also all the scars that is on the current Fauls face as this face slowly transformed to be almost an exact look-a-like to the Real Paul McCartney.  They could not do anything about the height unfortunately which by the way is another dead give away.

Once you see these scars make a note of it.  The Fauls ear was tampered with on the very bottom of the ear lobe slightly in the attempt to change it but they backed off because it was too much to do, so they left it alone.  Only his right ear was touched but his left ear remained the same untouched.

Furthermore, keep in mind Billy Shears was kept under tight wraps for 3 solid years until January 1969 when they tried him out on the roof top.  Even I after seeing it, it was a bad as it comes and no where near close to the real Paul.  After that they split up as a group knowing the consequences was too risky if the Faul gets caught.  They were using other better look a likes during the interim, such as the Apple Studio famous walk across the street etc., but Billy Shears was their selected choice.  Reasons are unknown.

He did pop out here and there during those 3 years only briefly doing stints for the group.

I do request if possible that you can allow me to post pics directly here but I cannot because it keeps saying its full.  Can you fix this problem for me please.

Thanks.
Daveyo
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: maclen on March 15, 2010, 08:10:25 AM
please don't post these photos. everyone who wants to see your so called evidence can go to this TKIN forum, where the have all these pics.

 2ch
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 15, 2010, 08:37:03 AM

Been trying to put the pics in and the upload folder is full.  How is it possible, and I just joined as the three pics total only 72kb which is small.  1 set is 39kb and the other is 33 kb.

Are we allowed to post pics here or not.



You can post as many pics as you want. Please not as attachment. There's an excellent tutorial here: http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/index.php?topic=7946.0 (http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/index.php?topic=7946.0)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 15, 2010, 08:50:16 AM
I haven't had so much laughs on the forum for ages. ha2ha
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on March 15, 2010, 10:17:59 AM
Daveyo mate  - I don't normally argue these things, because it gives your nonsense credence, but....
your story has a cast of thousands - the people who knew Paul died, or knew "Faul," the plastic surgeons, the trainers, The Beatles and their circle and god knows who else (plus this still lurking evil mastermind, ready to send in professional hit teams to exterminate anyone who spills the beans. Nya hah hah.)

Putting aside the fact that we're talking about the member of a pop group here (not a President or a Pope), and a pop band that at the time was universally regarded as past it's peak and about to break up (singles and album sales down, declining concert numbers, Epstein forced to issue "they're not breaking up" press statements.) They were being outsold by Hermans Hermits and The Monkees for chrissakes. Why would anyone bother?

All that aside, the best evidence you can come up with is comparing photos seperated by nearly 50 years of age? Come on mate, you can't be that mad.

The other night the BBC had a documentary about whether Bin laden is still alive. Some folk have done what you've done with video images and say the differences prove he's dead.
Experts from both the CIA and MI5 and indepent security agencies all agreed that image matching is a very imprecise science and that the slightest thing - angle, light, perspective, age etc can create changes, and that they operate on a basis of degrees of certainty  (ie a 95% match means it's most likely a match), and it is almost impossible to ever have an exact match.  And these were images seperated by only 10 years

And I have a mirror. I'm 51 and can see my face changing. I'm becoming more thickset and my face is noticably sagging.

like Joost said, evidence my friend. Paranoid wishful thinking won't cut the mustard around here.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Ahme on March 15, 2010, 10:29:45 AM
The ears joost is like the fingerprints of a person.

I never saw that on CSI.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 15, 2010, 10:39:33 AM
Look at the guy singing lead here in 1964:
The Beach Boys lost concert - Surfer girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsle8Y-fc4M#normal)

And here's the same guy singing lead in 1976:
The beach boys - I'm bugged at my ol'man (studio) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99pgXBv33kI#normal)

I suppose we can all agree his looks and his voice changed a lot more than Paul's ever did. Besides that, he'd dissapeared from the public eye for a few years and when he returned most of his talents seemed to have drastically paled. So a "Brian is dead" theory would be far more believable than a "Paul is dead" theory. Yet I've never heard anyone say that Brian died and was replaced by someone else.

What I'm trying to say here is that some people just see what they want to see, even if there is nothing to see.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Ahme on March 15, 2010, 10:50:57 AM

James Paul McCartney ear lobe is completely "attached" to the skin of his mandible.

Daveyo


(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3263/paulmccartney.jpg)

There goes your theory.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on March 15, 2010, 12:54:47 PM
And another thing.....
you're trying to convince us that in 1966, someone (who Dr Evil?) convinced John Lennon (who was still the bands principlal hit songwriter) that not only was Paul being replaced, but that this imposter was going to be made the bands principal focus whose songs would be given preference over his, and given credit for Pepper, MMT and Let It Be. If as you say they waited until 69 to "try him out" on the rooftop why did they submit him to those glaring closeups in Hey Jude and Let It Be. And why, if they had hit teams waiting to go, did they allow all those silly clues like "here's another clue for you all" etc.
Slipping this new guy in and then immediately making him the focal point of the group seems a tad silly to me.
And all you have is ear lobes.

Nonsense.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 15, 2010, 02:12:51 PM
Ok, how many of you believe the person you see today is the real Paul?

and

How many of you believe the person you see today is not the real Paul.

A simple two questions, irrespective of what it might be, but really many have their minds made up and believe what they want to believe and it will take more than evidence to be convinced.

I somehow sense that even if the DNA somehow proves either way, none still will not believe.  It will take more than that for someone to just say hey he is not I, and I am not him.

Like John Lennon once said, let them figure it out.

Recently I have come across people claiming that Dave Dave (the infamous burn victim) is MJ, and have also seen people claiming that Elvis was replaced as well.

Who knows what they will come up next

Perhaps maybe we can call upon Peter Graves of Mission Impossible to figure it out ehhhhh.  ooops just heard he died.  Oh well.



 
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on March 15, 2010, 02:25:00 PM
No answers then?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 15, 2010, 02:30:28 PM
How many of you believe the person you see today is not the real Paul.

I'm not even that much of an "obsessed" Beatles or Paul McCartney-fan (they're only my second favorite band) and I like a good conspiracy theory every now and then, so if there would actually be any good evidence for your story I don't think I would be entirely close minded about it.

But considering the facts, I would rate this story on a likeliness-scale of zero to ten (with the excistence of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny being somewhere around zero) at about... ehm... zero.

Oh, and if there really was a "Faul" who took over in 1966, I have to say that as a songwriter, he kicked the real Paul's ass!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 15, 2010, 02:40:17 PM
(nevermind)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on March 15, 2010, 02:43:43 PM
I'm the same as Joost. I like The Beatles and find their story interesting, but it matters little to me if McCartney is dead or alive.
What destroys your theory is it's lack of evidence and high degree of improbability.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The Swine on March 15, 2010, 02:58:40 PM
:) Not exactly my choice of words, but I agree with your general thrust. We all come here for different reasons.

we look a lot alike


daveyo if you really can come up with dna i might believe you. earlobes are no fingerprints and certainly not dna. i did check the king is naked forum and almost joined. then i realized pigs are smart animals. but it is hilarious i must admit. o and dont worry about peter graves. it was only his standin that died.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: lunchpunch on March 15, 2010, 05:13:02 PM
And another thing.....
you're trying to convince us that in 1966, someone (who Dr Evil?) convinced John Lennon (who was still the bands principlal hit songwriter) that not only was Paul being replaced, but that this imposter was going to be made the bands principal focus whose songs would be given preference over his, and given credit for Pepper, MMT and Let It Be.

John would have never stood for that, if anyone knows ANYTHING about John's personality.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 16, 2010, 02:33:33 AM
Ok

For all of you if you can just simply it, just what it will take for you to believe about the Real Paul being allegedly replaced or be convinced that he might be dead.  Scientifically I believe Once cremated DNA is gone forever.

Example:  DNA from Faul vs DNA from his brother Michael, or DNA from Faul vs DNA from the Real Paul (provided one can find his body somehow).  I think the best bet is Michael direct closest decendent, and would this be sufficient for many of you?

Today Michael and Ringo are I think the only ones left that hold the keys to the truth.  True or False?  I will not trust the Faul in any way shape or form because he is so questionable & there are many doubts. I think we all need something outside, something independent for accurate verification.  Who would you trust?

If there is anything else that you might be inclined to believe please state it.

TKIN for example has made a start and perhaps maybe also made a small dent in raising up this doubt level but its not enough proof wise I believe, but enough to get one to start thinking hmmm, etc., if the person has an open mind. Some of it will stand up to the legal test and some probably will not unless like some people say if that DNA is shown and officially entered, then it will turn a lot of heads I think without a doubt.

Would appreciate your input.

Daveyo

I also viewed some pics inside the Apple Studios showing the band members and alleged Faul being in there.  I don't see the date on the pics, or how it was smuggled out, or when it was taken, but somehow it now is being shown from the TKIN side.  But its a bit intriguing to say the least.  Not that it matters but it does cause interest though.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 16, 2010, 04:25:02 AM
we look a lot alike


daveyo if you really can come up with dna i might believe you. earlobes are no fingerprints and certainly not dna. i did check the king is naked forum and almost joined. then i realized pigs are smart animals. but it is hilarious i must admit. o and dont worry about peter graves. it was only his standin that died.

Hi Swine!!!

Hmmm, definitely your entitled to your own opinion, but ahem, may I be allowed to say something.  Ears and its style and shape is definitely some means of a way to identify someone, and if this is not so, Ok here is a test.  Go to one of your friends, and take a pic shot of your friends ear and have your friend take a pic shot of your ear.  Develop it and then compare.  Would they be the same or not?  

Also DNA is used for criminal cases now, and or for your genetic history and background.  Everyone has a different DNA sequence and also the strands are different resulting in proving something.  If one was to take your brother and you being the sister, your DNA and his DNA will practically match except at some parts that show differently between you and your brother and parts that points to your parents.  Also this can be used to find your long lost ancestors etc.  It is also used to determine and or find the diseases that you might have or its potential to have.

On a crime scene, without the defendant saying anything and they cannot find the weapon, or have any witnesses, and yet they find the DNA on the victim or some item and it is different, they search etc, and later on they get a suspect and it points to the accused after they obtain the samples are you convinced that the accuse did it even when the accuse denys doing the crime?  As far as I understand, it has met the test in criminal courts from top to bottom and they find it quite reliable and convincing.  Never the less somehow there is always something that will create the doubt and I think in some way it will always exist as long as humans exist.

So in a sense the DNA has pretty much met the test of the probable factors.  The ears itself is one means, the dental records is another means, Fingerprints is another means, the eye retina's is another means, vocal analysis is another, lie detectors is another etc.  All have some means one way or another to help clear up issues, and or identify someone whether the person is deceased or alive.  Out of all these probable factors I tend to agree the DNA is the strongest.

Anyhow I noticed the main topic says "Paul is Dead: Story & Clues.  What is true here is Paul dead or not?  hehehehehehe. So............. 





 
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 16, 2010, 07:42:32 AM
just what it will take for you to believe about the Real Paul being allegedly replaced or be convinced that he might be dead.

How about a plausible story and credible evidence...   :-X

You come here with a highly improbable story, your only "evidence" is that someone's ear lobe looks different to you now than it did almost half a century ago and you're actually surprised that you haven't convinced everyone yet? That's a bit like throwing a rock at the White House and being surprised that the president doesn't get so scared that he resigns and flees the county...
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 16, 2010, 08:10:28 AM
Example:  DNA from Faul vs DNA from his brother Michael, or DNA from Faul vs DNA from the Real Paul (provided one can find his body somehow).  I think the best bet is Michael direct closest decendent, and would this be sufficient for many of you?
Yeah, if you can show me an official DNA report that rules out the posibility that "Faul" and Michael are brothers, that would change things. When do you think you can show us the report?

Today Michael and Ringo are I think the only ones left that hold the keys to the truth.  True or False?
False. This would be such a huge conspiracy that there would have to be many more people involved that are or might be still alive. The people who performed plastic surgery on "Faul", people who did the paperworks, Billy Shears's old friends and relatives, family and friends of the real Paul (if one of your friends or relatives would be replaced by someone else, I suppose you'd notice it, right?), Billy's trainers, Jane Asher, George Martin...

If there is anything else that you might be inclined to believe please state it.
You haven't even really started giving us any evidence yet, have you? Show us what you've got (besides the ear lobe thing, we've seen it and we're not buying it) and we'll let you know what we think of it.

Ears and its style and shape is definitely some means of a way to identify someone, and if this is not so, Ok here is a test. Go to one of your friends, and take a pic shot of your friends ear and have your friend take a pic shot of your ear. Develop it and then compare. Would they be the same or not?
There were almost fifty years between the two pictures of the ear that you posted. Not just one year. And different camera angles and different lightning can make a big difference.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on March 16, 2010, 09:49:38 AM
Ok

For all of you if you can just simply it, just what it will take for you to believe about the Real Paul being allegedly replaced or be convinced that he might be dead.  Scientifically I believe Once cremated DNA is gone forever.

Example:  DNA from Faul vs DNA from his brother Michael, or DNA from Faul vs DNA from the Real Paul (provided one can find his body somehow).  I think the best bet is Michael direct closest decendent, and would this be sufficient for many of you?

.

And the day you present us with that evidence I shall personally come around and kiss your ar*se.
Until you do all you have is a couple of suppositions based on your amatuerish comparisons of photos fifty years different.
That's simple enough for most of us.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 18, 2010, 09:34:24 AM
I suppose Daveyo is currently trying to arrange that DNA test... Can't wait for the results.  :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 19, 2010, 04:46:59 PM
Hi

Sorry for not responding.  I have been very busy with other important private matters.  As of the DNA I wish I can get it but the guy is a half world away from me, and the chances of me even getting close is zilch.   It would have to be done by someone who has some authority, and the tracking has to be accounted for from beginning to end, etc etc. 

All I know is from the Albums and pics that many of you have yourselves and including me, and the news reports of all his surgerys etc, including seeing the bomb being his mother, really thru some curves here and caused a lot of doubt.  I myself believe and its my own opinion that the person you see today performing is not the real Paul.  Someday this will all come out and I hope it does in my lifetime.  If any of you want to see all the comparisons and reading materials etc., and maybe perhaps some of you not know about it, so here is a link

http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/ (http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/)

also see TKIN and Revolution 9

there is plenty of it all around.

Some of you are convinced and your minds are dead set on the person you see is the real paul and some of you are not. It's up to you to decide, not for me to be proving it to you.  Sure I started started talking about the topic of showing some possible evidence, and wanted to get some feedback on it, and took it under advisement not to go further,  and if you look under the main HEADING of this, it says what > Paul is Dead: Story & Clues.  Maybe I should suggest some of you to do your own research and compare and look.  I am not a professor or a know it all.  From what I have done for myself, doing my own homework, it changed my way of thinking and I am almost positive that this person is the Faul, and leave room for doubt.  One thing is for sure, no one has seen or taken a genuine picture the real Paul officially since September 13, 1966.  How can a person explain and show something when some people shoot the person down broadside ehh.

So now explain and prove how this person can be with undisputable evidence if any that the one you see today is the Real Paul that some of you say he is.  This topic says Paul is Dead, so how can he be alive?   Fair is fair right?   ;D

Daveyo





Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 19, 2010, 05:08:42 PM
Oh, just a question and its off topic but just a question

Would you believe me if I told you I found the cure for Canine Distemper in the CNS?

That is all I wanted to ask.

Daveyo
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 19, 2010, 07:02:07 PM
So now explain and prove how this person can be with undisputable evidence if any that the one you see today is the Real Paul that some of you say he is.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_O2o4HUH_4LM/SxVBCGCmPPI/AAAAAAAAAvA/BjIx5-zQA38/s1600/paul_mccartney_paul_is_live_portada.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: MrsPaulMcCartney on March 19, 2010, 07:15:13 PM
First of all,I don't believe that Paul's dead.
I think it's really funny how people look for clues to have proof that Paul is really dead xD
I started to play along today because I was bored and paid more attention to some of the pictures and videos of Paul.
Here's a clue I found (sorry if its already been posted) :
In the "Hello Goodbye" music video..it looks like Paul's bass is covered in blood..
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/7276839/The+Beatles+hello20goodbye.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 19, 2010, 07:24:01 PM
If any of you want to see all the comparisons and reading materials etc., and maybe perhaps some of you not know about it, so here is a link

[url]http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/[/url] ([url]http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/[/url])

That site has some of the biggest nonsense I've even seen. Just look at the 'With The Beatles' album cover thing... They have a picture of Paul with a heavy shadow over the LEFT side of his face and compare it to a picture of Paul with a shadow over the RIGHT side of his face and the "difference" between the two photos is supposed to be "undeniable forensic evidence"?  ha2ha
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 19, 2010, 07:36:12 PM
Did you ever see this site Daveyo? I think you should.
http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul.html (http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul.html)
http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul2.html (http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul2.html)
http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul3.html (http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul3.html)
http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul4.html (http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul4.html)
http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul5.html (http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul5.html)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: I_Will on March 19, 2010, 11:45:02 PM
Did you ever see this site Daveyo? I think you should.
[url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul.html[/url])
[url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul2.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul2.html[/url])
[url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul3.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul3.html[/url])
[url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul4.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul4.html[/url])
[url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul5.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul5.html[/url])


Oh fantastic stuff Joost! I really enjoyed reading that :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 20, 2010, 08:46:07 AM
Hi joost

I did take a look at what you suggested for me to do.  Hmmmm, many questions still not answered and I do allow the argument from this person to enter my mind.  Like I said I am open minded and I have to say only the DNA is the way to go.

Pictures can be altered, faces can change over time, looks can change over time etc etc.  Lets go beyond that OK.  I agree with you Joost we do need some real proof, and as I said before that kind of proof is very hard to obtain.

There are some pieces that does raise doubts, and in some cases even a slightest doubt can raise the level bar quite high.  I am sure both you and I try to find the truth and hopefully both of us someday get to hear and read about the real truth.  Until then its a back and forth issue and quite debatable to say the least.

There is just something about this person that I have doubts on, and not convince entirely it being the same Paul as of 66.  Something just does not add up.  Don't really know why maybe instinct I guess or from what I have seen over the years.  TKIN by the way did not convince me regarding my thoughts, and neither did this other site you mentioned.  In regards to the album  on tlc site I tend to agree to the question so raised by that person of why they had to stretch the faces etc.  Right there is your doubt, and very first question.  I also saw two different outfits when another comparison is made from that album.  Another question and another doubt.

I also read the summary and thesis from this person too.  A lot of WHY questions. 

I myself have no intentions to add or subtract what is reported or told.  We all have to make our own decisions of what to believe in and not to believe in.  Personally the way I see this if you are there, if you saw it take place, if you hear it, then it cannot be denied.  If you are not there, if not seen and if not heard personally yourself then one cannot say this or that regardless.

So to sum it up until all of us can get the real truth be told, with something clinically proven (like example DNA) or some verified eyewitness account that can prove it conclusively, everybody will have a question in their minds one way or another. 

We both are warriors Joost, and we both battle as adversaries I suppose, but the bottom line both of us like to get the straight scoop.  I do shake you hand as a friend, and I hope you feel the same way.  Agreed?

Daveyo
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 20, 2010, 08:54:41 AM
First of all,I don't believe that Paul's dead.
I think it's really funny how people look for clues to have proof that Paul is really dead xD
I started to play along today because I was bored and paid more attention to some of the pictures and videos of Paul.
Here's a clue I found (sorry if its already been posted) :
In the "Hello Goodbye" music video..it looks like Paul's bass is covered in blood..
([url]http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/7276839/The+Beatles+hello20goodbye.jpg[/url])


Hi Mrs Paul

I see the pic you posted.  Is that the real John or a Fake John ,  hehehehehehehe.  It just doesn't look right.

Daveyo
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 20, 2010, 12:05:06 PM
We both are warriors Joost, and we both battle as adversaries I suppose, but the bottom line both of us like to get the straight scoop.  I do shake you hand as a friend, and I hope you feel the same way.  Agreed?
Sure!  :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: lunchpunch on March 20, 2010, 12:44:56 PM
Did you ever see this site Daveyo? I think you should.
[url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul.html[/url])
[url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul2.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul2.html[/url])
[url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul3.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul3.html[/url])
[url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul4.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul4.html[/url])
[url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul5.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul5.html[/url])


Joost, I think you just may be my favorite person on this thread.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 20, 2010, 03:28:36 PM
Joost, I think you just may be my favorite person on this thread.

Oh oh, do I sense something here?  hehehehehehehehehehe
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: lunchpunch on March 20, 2010, 10:35:28 PM
Oh oh, do I sense something here?  hehehehehehehehehehe

lol.

What you are sensing is the fact that I agree with Joost.

Daveyo, I was into your theories on PID until you brought up that John was killed by Yoko Ono or someone else... and not MDC.

Then I called bullsh*t on you.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 21, 2010, 02:01:58 PM
Hi Lunch

I do believe my case concerning the issue on the death of John Lennon is quite strong as Joost is looking into the matter. 

As of the Paul McCartney being dead or alive I have stated that my reasons are gut reasons that he was replaced.  I disagree on Joost saying he is alive.  Yes they will go thru a lot of trouble to train and get the person to feel like paul, act like paul, play like paul, sing like paul and even look like the real McCoy etc.  From 66 up to around I think 71 or 73 somewhere around there the public appearances were limited and then in the 70's that is when the Paul we see today began the journey to be more public.  Also during the 70's there was talk going around about his mother being alive.  To my knowledge the real Pauls mother was dead like 20 years or so earlier.  Then pops this Pauls mother who happens to look so similar to the Paul of today facial wise.  I did not know about this and was taken back a bit a couple months ago, but wow, hehehehehehehe so I kinda wonder what the hell is going on.

Ahhhh, so many strange things happened Lunch, and none of us know anything, and the only sure fire way is that DNA period.  If any of us and I mean anyone around the world gets lucky enough to get the DNA from the Paul today and that DNA from Michael McCartney  I swear my life on it that it will not match up at all.  Until then its debatable and nothing can be construed to be BS. 8)

I have been leaning on the skull evidence, and on the voice octave evidence which to me these two things are very hard to contradict and its scientifically and medically proven.  That is all I've got that gives and raises the doubt bar quite high.  I have heard many songs from the Real Paul all thru the years up to end of summer of 66 over and over again even today at home.  Just listening to it very carefully.  It takes a long time to really get it down pat in your memory.  Then compare it afterwards, and the first one I heard was the Get Back song.  Its not the real Paul vocal wise.  Its different.  Just the sound is what I heard and nothing to do with him physically.  I knew this way back in 1969!!!!!!!!!! and at that time became suspicious of it.  But I just could not put my finger on it.  That is because I knew how he sounded and when he did the combo singing with John and with George.  When John sang in 69 his voice was still the same, with absolutely no change.  But when both sang together wow, it is quite different.

Some other things does not make sense either, like why would he go to Africa on some stupid safari trip?  He never was interested in that before. :-X

So joost and I are warriors peacefully, regarding the Paul issue.  Its good to have people argue things and hopefully someday honestly that we all can hear or read the real truth at the end before we are dead ourselves.  I am almost 60 now, and quite frankly living wise I don't have that luxury like those only 20 years old now have living wise.  I pray and hope that the truth comes out before I say goodbye forever.

Now what kind of lunch did you make for me today and what kind of punch I get to drink ehhh. ;D :D

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Jane on March 21, 2010, 08:09:21 PM
One reply: THIS IS PAUL. OUR PAUL has always been him and still is him.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: cubanheel on March 21, 2010, 08:57:49 PM
? but is it the real Michael McCartney/McGear to get the DNA from?????!  And how do you verify that???!!
Oh, and how come the 2010 'Paul' looks so like his dad? and you can see the family resemblence with extended family (see Mike Mac's family photos). You can't fake the entire bloomin' family!!!  In the past I have actually taken some interest in the PID thing, load of old balony in my not very humble opinion, but I have to say those conspiracy guys make you notice details you never saw before, and connect random things which are very interesting (but a load of old balony  -- did I mention that before???)    ha2ha
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 23, 2010, 02:49:14 PM
I do believe my case concerning the issue on the death of John Lennon is quite strong as Joost is looking into the matter.
Sorry, but that's yet another wrong assumption. We're having a discussion here so I think it's only fair that I at least try to see your point. That however, unfortionately, doesn't automatically mean that I think you have a strong case.

From 66 up to around I think 71 or 73 somewhere around there the public appearances were limited and then in the 70's that is when the Paul we see today began the journey to be more public.
But Paul never quite took a break from writing songs and recording music in the studio during those years. So I guess he got the singing and songwriting down right away?

Some other things does not make sense either, like why would he go to Africa on some stupid safari trip?  He never was interested in that before. :-X
Thousands of people go to Africa for "stupid safari trips". Why does that make no sense? We're on an incredibly interesting planet here and you never know how much time you've got to check it out. It would make no sense to me if you have the chance to see something of the world and you DON'T do it.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 23, 2010, 08:01:12 PM
Plus Pauls public appearances between 66 and 73 were not limited at all.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: maclen on March 24, 2010, 10:23:52 AM
Plus Pauls public appearances between 66 and 73 were not limited at all.


Very true! Actually he probably went more in public then the other three. He was the bachelor of the group at that time and did a lot of clubbing. He also was very active in the London art & underground scene and is probably the most photographed Beatle in 1966-1968.  :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on March 24, 2010, 11:22:16 AM

Very true! Actually he probably went more in public then the other three. He was the bachelor of the group at that time and did a lot of clubbing. He also was very active in the London art & underground scene and is probably the most photographed Beatle in 1966-1968.  :)

I was a bit sad and did a count for the 52 weeks from Sept 66. He appeared in public as much as John, and far more than the other two. These appearances included photo shoots, radio and TV interviews and a trip to the US to be with Jane. Hardly the actions of a man being kept under wraps.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 25, 2010, 06:15:11 PM
This pic is not about Paul here, but its about my argument that if and when people change over time they can still be identified with precision as many features of the person will match including those freaky ears!!!! and the skull itself still has not changed at all.  Take a real closeeeeeeeeeeeeeee looooooook.   ;D

Check this out.  These are mug shots taken 55 years apart when the police finally caught up to this dude running a wedding chapel after skipping parole back in the 50's.  This dude originally was given the death sentence which later was resentenced to life and did 15 years and then was released and on parole 1972. He was never heard from since.  Well he ditched it and ahem, wow, they caught up to the sucker 2 days ago.  On the first mug to the left it shows you the year being 1955, and he just was caught 2 days ago and now is 78!!!!!!!  This is a 55 year spread!!!!!!!!

Now make your comparisons because this is one of the gists of my arguments that the Paul you see today is not the same Paul of yesterday.  Viva Paul McCartney - Shes got a ticket to ride she don't care.  My favorite.

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/Daveyo/100324-wedding-fugative-hmed2p_hmed.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/Daveyo/?action=view&current=100324-wedding-fugative-hmed2p_hmed.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: I_Will on March 25, 2010, 07:13:48 PM
^^I think that guy has changed just as much as Paul--and just about everyone in the world--has in the span of about 40-50 years...
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 25, 2010, 07:17:06 PM
His ears have grown for a start. If it is the same person at all. It's plain ridiculous anyway.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 26, 2010, 08:42:34 AM
This is so unreal gang, the guy on the left is the very same sap on the right, and fingerprints match and yet you all still deny.  And this is a span of 55 years.  I can just picture this.  If someone went thru the trouble to look and age very similar to the Real Paul, and did everything else via the training even vocal, you would believe it to be the Real Paul.

The ear style has not change at all, and neither did the skull and many of his features still are the same 55 years later.  Obviously many of you cannot tell or want to admit that this is the one and the same sap.  That is why I posted this pic here to see your reactions.

When he got that first mug shot he was around 22-24 years old.  The aging effect I believe is what throws most folks off and that is probably the biggest point.  The skull is never going to change via aging effect as that is permanent for virtual several hundred thousand years and longer.  The ears can go up and down, but the style of the ears remains the same like it or not.  The nose can be changed a lot and that is well proven by MJ. 

This person never had surgery on the face and was genuinely and positively identified, and I wanted to show everyone this pic to prove my point and that is the gist of my argument that the Paul you see today is not the Paul of yesterday.  It just does not match even 40 plus years later.  I wish it did, but its not so.   I wish I can get or find some expert on aging that has the computer capability to show all of you but at the moment I don't know who has it, and will find out once back in USA>

It is not ridiculous to say the least and it truly is a valid point.  Why isn't it?

Daveyo



 

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The Swine on March 26, 2010, 09:05:01 AM
youre contradicting. ears change or they do not change. you have not responded to an earlier post on pauls ears. how can you tell that the skull of the two men pictured is the same? mjs nose changed because of surgery. i guess this man was identified by his fingerprints not by the shape of his skull or shape of his ears. how this case of aging can be related to pauls or whoevers is not clear to me. pretty individual if you ask me.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 26, 2010, 09:06:34 AM
This is so unreal gang, the guy on the left is the very same sap on the right, and fingerprints match and yet you all still deny.

Fact: One person here wrote that he's not sure that it's the same guy.
Your interpretation: Everyone is denying that it's the same guy.

It's typical how you just keep bending and twisting facts to make them fit what you want to believe.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Daveyo on March 26, 2010, 09:36:22 AM
youre contradicting. ears change or they do not change. you have not responded to an earlier post on pauls ears. how can you tell that the skull of the two men pictured is the same? mjs nose changed because of surgery. i guess this man was identified by his fingerprints not by the shape of his skull or shape of his ears. how this case of aging can be related to pauls or whoevers is not clear to me. pretty individual if you ask me.



Hi Swine;

Ok I think there is a way for you to understand and the idea just popped into my head.  What I will do is post 4 pics of ears OK.  You tell me which one matches.  I will first post the easy one.  Then I will post the hard one.  I think once you see it, then you will understand what I am talking about.  Fair enough

The guy was first identified by comparing him and the mug shot.  So when the police thought the person they were looking at and the mug shot, sure it looked awful close.  So they asked the sap his name and ah, well its a different name, looked at the drivers license he said who he was, yet the police again looked at the mug shot, and looked at him and decided to take him in for questioning.  Once there, when the fingerprints were sent out, the guy confessed to who he was and the identification confirmed one and the same sap. 

Swine, the police who looked at him were 90% sure it was the same person, but still had doubts that they could be wrong as everything looked in order no problem etc, and everything looked legit.  The sap knew this and was praying they go away.  Not so, and after they made him submit to the fingerprints, his cover was blown.

The same thing can happen when the police do the DNA check on a suspect, and this also can blow the cover on the suspect too.

The thing regarding the Pauls involved here, is first, we do not have the genuine actual fingerprints of the real Paul up to the end of the summer of 66.  I swear my sweet peas Swine, had we got even just one print of the real Paul, you can bet I myself would do everything I can to get any kind of print of the Paul of today and see it matches up.  Since we do not have this vital evidence, all we got now is the facial features plus other things to debate on and hopefully some day we can get that DNA and compare it to Michael the Real Pauls brother.  If not, everybody loses and this festering issue will be like cancer lasting for many many years.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: The Swine on March 26, 2010, 09:43:18 AM
(http://www.salem-news.com/stimg/april292008/mccartney_mike.jpg)

id say that mike was replaced as well. look at his skull when he was young. theres absolutely no match with faulmikes skull now. dont you agree? the lips are like fingerprints as well. and expert told me so last night. the same goes for eyebrows and the shirt that somebodys wearing. so i have to deduct that were not looking at the real mike mccartney.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on March 26, 2010, 10:04:31 AM
Quote
As we see others age or as we see ourselves age, we often notice that ears appear to get longer in middle and old age. But do they really?

The scientific validity of this common observation has been challenged from time to time by those who maintain that ears don't really grow longer (or larger) with age - they only look as if they do - that it's all just an illusion.

They point out that since the body shrinks somewhat with age, the ears may appear to have grown longer (and larger) while actually staying the same size. So what does science say? In fact, our ears do grow longer with age. Indeed, they grow throughout our lives.

In 1990, Drs L Pelz and B Stein from Medical Branch of the University of Rostock in Germany measured the ears of 1,271 children and adolescents. They report in Padiatrie und Grenzgebiete that ear length increases "steadily and annually", but ear width remains the same.

Dr James Heathcote, a general practitioner from Kent in the UK, along with four colleagues, studied 206 patients with the mean age of 53. Dr Heathcote concluded in the 23 December 1995 British Medical Journal, that "as we get older our ears get bigger (on average by 0.22mm a year)".

The next year, in the 2 March British Medical Journal, Dr Yashhiro Asai, a physician at the Futanazu Clinic in Misaki, Japan, along with three colleagues, agreed with Heathcote. Their study of 400 consecutive patients aged 20 and older concludes "that ear length correlates significantly with age, as Heathcote showed, in Japanese people".

In 1999, Dr VF Ferrario and four colleagues from the Functional Anatomy Research Centre at the University of Milan in Italy, writing in the Journal of Craniofacial Genetic Developmental Biology, present evidence that not only do ears get longer with age, but it happens to both women and men. Men’s ears start out longer than women's and they stay that way.

Why ears grow longer with age? Gravity over time forces every body appendage to sag. The bane of human aging: If it can sag, it will sag! Ears included.

Stephen Juan, Ph.D. is an anthropologist at the University of Sydney.

So much for the ear theory.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: cubanheel on March 29, 2010, 07:05:03 PM
Lend me your ears and I'll sing you a song and I'll try to look like the right guy...

Isn't anyone else singing this in their head????
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 30, 2010, 10:42:27 AM
Paul is not dead! Picture Comparison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNOsFQa_Ns#normal)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 30, 2010, 11:09:18 AM
^ And here endeth the lesson? heheh
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on March 30, 2010, 11:20:56 AM
Don't know. I didn't get a proper look on the earlobes.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: cubanheel on April 06, 2010, 08:22:54 PM
Stuff the earlobes, look at that cute photo of Paul with crossed arms as a boy and then late 60's! And the fade into Paul's father says it all for me. The guy IS the guy!!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on April 22, 2010, 12:42:53 PM
Died in a car crash? Well, he was fined for speeding in 1963...

(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID2082/images/newspaperclipcropped.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on April 22, 2010, 01:24:41 PM
Died in a car crash? Well, he was fined for speeding in 1963...

([url]http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID2082/images/newspaperclipcropped.jpg[/url])


They published someone's home address in a newspaper because he got a speeding ticket? That's just bizarre...
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: cubanheel on April 30, 2010, 03:00:10 PM
Tee hee! Inspector HARRISON!! How naughty you were Paul. Previous convictions, all sounds v suspicious, throw the book at him officer.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on May 04, 2010, 12:54:53 AM
Reality check.


(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/fades/aNOTHERGREATFADE.gif)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/fades/fade941lb.gif)


(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/fades/LIB.gif)


(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/fades/eyeswideopen-1.gif)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/fades/crackfade.gif)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/fades/66rs68.gif)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/fades/mvtest.gif)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on May 04, 2010, 01:05:34 AM
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/FPisBACK.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/sidebyside22.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/paul.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/42306comp.gif)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/doyouseewhatisee.gif)

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/1967-fady1.gif)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on May 04, 2010, 01:13:25 AM
Left Ear
(http://img18.exs.cx/img18/1858/dez3.jpg)
(http://img18.exs.cx/img18/2725/goodnighttonight.jpg)


(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/leftearcomp-1.gif)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/ear.gif)


Right Ear

(http://img42.exs.cx/img42/5940/earcompare1.jpg)

(http://img58.exs.cx/img58/3893/ear.gif)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/earcomp.gif)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on May 04, 2010, 01:14:56 AM
Here is Paul Playing Piano in '64 and '67, followed by close ups of what looks very much like the same hand. Notice the same odd technique of playing chords without using the thumb.


(http://img83.exs.cx/img83/5789/64-piano.jpg)  (http://img83.exs.cx/img83/7149/67-piano.jpg)

(http://img83.exs.cx/img83/5797/64-right-hand.jpg)(http://img83.exs.cx/img83/3533/67-right-hand.jpg)

The overlay fade clearly shows that this is the same hand. :D
(http://img13.exs.cx/img13/2308/hand_fade.gif)


Now for the bass. This little comparison   clearly shows that not only did Paul's hand shape and size remain consistant throughout his lifetime, but more importantly his hand technique, which like a fingerprint, is unique to each musician changes NOT ONE BIT throughout his entire lifetime.

(http://img84.exs.cx/img84/4908/handofpaul3nx.jpg)

There is only one Paul! 


(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/242aaaf7549f.jpg)

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/truecolors112/part%202/vantola64.jpg)


(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/handcomp2.gif)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on May 04, 2010, 08:14:44 AM
It looks as if every part of the body is unique like a fingerprint...
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Mrs Lennon on May 07, 2010, 01:00:01 AM
^ (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Secret_Rival/khan.gif)
It was too good to pass up...
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: KHAN on May 16, 2010, 01:01:04 AM
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6325/rotf6dn4tx.gif) (http://img91.exs.cx/img91/6488/pmsmoke8zy.gif)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: PaulMcCartneyReallyIsDead on June 07, 2010, 03:02:52 PM
Comprehensive new film assembles all the clues to prove that Paul McCartney Really Is Dead.

http://paulreallyisdead.com/ (http://paulreallyisdead.com/)


Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on June 07, 2010, 03:06:42 PM
Comprehensive new film assembles all the clues to prove that Paul McCartney Really Is Dead.
[url]http://paulreallyisdead.com/[/url] ([url]http://paulreallyisdead.com/[/url])

Hello and good morning. Is that all you came here for?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Joost on June 07, 2010, 06:19:28 PM
Concidentally, I heard an interesting story today that kind of relates to this.

As anyone who cares about soccer will know, the World Cup soccer tournament is held every four years and it's one of the biggest sport events in the world. Second only to the Summer Olympics, probably. In 1958, the tournament was held in Sweden.

In 2002, Swedish director Johan Lofstedt made a documentary called 'Conspiracy 58'. This documentary revealed that the 1958 World Cup tournament never actually took place. Sweden did not have the financial resources to organize the tournament, and when the CIA heard about this, they decided to set up a big media conspiracy that involved the Swedish national television station, to stage the tournament. And why was the CIA interested in doing this? They used it as a test case. They figured that if they could fool the whole world into believing that such a huge sports event was taking place while it really wasn't, they could fool the world into believing pretty much anything.

So what was the evidence that the documentary provided? All kinds of shady things. On the television footage there were houses in the background that weren't actually there. The shadows of the players didn't match with the position of the sun. "Experts" were hired to tell that they searched through the archives and never found any physical evidence of the tournament taking place.

Lots of people started to believe that the 1958 World Cup really never took place. Despite the fact that 35 matches were played during the tournament, that those matches were witnessed by up to 52,000 live spectators and television cameras, that some of football's biggest icons such as Pele, Just Fontaine, Garrincha and Lev Yashin played in the tournament and that prior to 2002, nobody had ever heard even the faintest rumor about the tournament being staged.

When the people who were watching the documentary the first time around didn't know is that the documentary was completely bogus. Lofstedt had made it up, only to show how easy it is for the media to make people believe the most outrageous things with the vaguest evidence...

(If you believe that Paul is really dead, please take a hint)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on June 08, 2010, 07:59:54 AM
^Interesting. I think the crucial flaw with these conspiracy stories is that they cherry pick the few bits of "evidence" that fit their story but ignore all the rest.
Back in the 70/80's, when Chariots of The Gods was all the rage, some bloke wrote a book "proving" that aliens had had contact with some ancient race in Thailand. His "proof" was that the positioning of eight temples in an ancient complex matched exactly the formation of stars as they were at some time long ago blah blah, therefore providing a star map. Presented on its own many found this evidence compelling.
What the guy completely failed to mention was that this complex contained dozens of other temples that didn't match anything. He had merely picked those that suited his "arguement." In fact, if you take a map of modern New York it was easy to find eight famous landmarks that also provided an exact match - as long as you chose them carefully and didn't mention all those that didn't.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on June 08, 2010, 08:13:36 AM
So you're saying that New York was visited by aliens as well?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on June 08, 2010, 09:05:12 AM
So you're saying that New York was visited by aliens as well?
:)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Spiritinthesky on September 17, 2010, 07:31:16 AM
Sept 17th 1969,
Media on both sides of the Atlantic were running stories that said Paul McCartney was dead. He was supposedly killed in a car accident in Scotland on November 9th, 1966 and that a double had been taking his place for public appearances. In fact, Paul and his girlfriend Jane Asher were on vacation in Kenya at the time.
 
From www.thisdayinmusic.com (http://www.thisdayinmusic.com)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 28, 2010, 06:22:57 AM
A lot of clues here...

Paul McCartney - Coming Up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBkySeyiDo#noexternalembed)


;)

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on September 28, 2010, 07:23:44 AM
A lot of clues here...

Paul McCartney - Coming Up ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBkySeyiDo#noexternalembed[/url])

;)



;D

I always wondered who the drummer was supposed to be? Ringo?




Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 29, 2010, 03:42:32 AM
;D

I always wondered who the drummer was supposed to be? Ringo?


Here's Ginger Baker ca. 1970...

(http://www.garstangcyclingclub.net/images/articles/gingerbakerr.jpg)



Paul said he was impersonating Ginger (The McCartney Years, 2007)...

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S1bdNBvOURk/TFYkKtOczWI/AAAAAAAAJrw/NJTB6LHqWQ8/s1600/coming+up+drummer3.JPG)




Anyway, here's a nice write up on Coming Up:  http://exquisitelyboredinnacogdoches.blogspot.com/2010/08/coming-up-video.html (http://exquisitelyboredinnacogdoches.blogspot.com/2010/08/coming-up-video.html)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: cubanheel on September 30, 2010, 01:03:39 PM
Paul looks more like a gnome or Noddy Holder than Ginger Baker!!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: An Apple Beatle on September 30, 2010, 01:19:53 PM
Paul looks more like a gnome or Noddy Holder than Ginger Baker!!
;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on October 17, 2010, 03:10:06 AM
The "Paul Is Dead" thing is SOOO old hat, THIS is what we need to worry about!

http://wethinkyoushould.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html (http://wethinkyoushould.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html)

 ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 17, 2010, 03:47:35 AM
The "Paul Is Dead" thing is SOOO old hat...

Ah, but that was another clue!

(http://www.orthogonal.com.au/music/beatles/magical/magic19.jpg)

(http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/early_faux_paul_mccartney/magician_faux_paul_mccartney_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 17, 2010, 03:57:20 AM
THIS is what we need to worry about!

[url]http://wethinkyoushould.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html[/url] ([url]http://wethinkyoushould.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html[/url])

 ;)


You should start a new thread.

 ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 19, 2010, 07:54:49 PM
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/schillid/TSMR_01.jpg)

Their Satanic Majesties Request




(http://i55.tinypic.com/2prwfuo.jpg)


Left to right:  Paul, George, John and Ringo


(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp254/Deltics_photos/Paulsm.jpg)

(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp254/Deltics_photos/Georgesm.jpg)

(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp254/Deltics_photos/Johnsm.jpg)

(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp254/Deltics_photos/Ringosm.jpg)




(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp254/Deltics_photos/Paulsm.jpg)

Uh-oh!  Is that another "clue?"  Look at the top of Paul's head.  Some of his hair is missing.

You were in a car crash and you lost your hair


;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on November 22, 2010, 08:23:30 AM
I think the red blood on his face -and exactly where he was hit- comes first.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 23, 2010, 03:46:09 AM
Omigod!  Maybe it's all true then!  (http://i56.tinypic.com/2ywu9oi.jpg)



(http://i53.tinypic.com/2m47eiq.jpg)

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 23, 2010, 05:20:50 AM
It's been said that there are many clues in Blue Jay Way...

The Beatles - Blue Jay Way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNLcXj5yR68#ws)



...and even more when played backwards!

The Beatles - Blue Jay Way Backwards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw9iLL8FfGo#)


;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on November 23, 2010, 08:39:37 AM
It's clear, isn't it? Throughout the song you can clearly hear: "Paul is dead, yes he is. But it's not too bad, we wanted to get rid of him anyway. Haven't you noticed the clues on that terrible record by The Rolling Stones? Yes yes, he is dead."
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 24, 2010, 01:10:53 AM
Raelc etiuq
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: nyfan(41) on November 24, 2010, 01:41:13 AM
the worst part about this paul is dead stuff is that one awful day wen paul mccartney actually passes away - every idiot news coverage is gonna include a reference to it like it's somehow ironically connected
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on November 24, 2010, 07:56:06 AM
No, when Paul really passes away, no one will believe it!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: fanofthefab4 on December 11, 2010, 12:26:50 PM
No, when Paul really passes away, no one will believe it!



 ha2ha, you even got me  ha2ha with that comment! But I really hope that Paul(who is the real true Paul) lives to be about 90,unless he doesn't want to,then I wouldn't wish it on him.If there is any justice in this world though,Paul will outlive Keith Richards,Mick Jagger,Pete Townsend,and Roger Daltry!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: fanofthefab4 on December 11, 2010, 02:06:26 PM
OK,so Paul's father,brother Michael,stepmother and stepsister wouldn't have known the real Paul?! They must have all been in on it too then!

 
And it's a real shame that British actress Jane Asher never will talk about her 5 year romance with Paul because she is the one who could debunk and  disprove this totally ridiculous garbage! Paul met Jane in April 1963 when he was 21 and she was only 17 and they became lovers for 5 years,from 1963-early 1968 when Jane came home early from touring with her theatre company and found Paul in their bed with another woman when they were engaged to be married since December 25 1967 and she then left him for good!
 

Paul lived  in her house with her and her parents and her older brother and her younger sister for several years until they bought their own house and lived together from early 1966 to early 1968.
 
So Jane was his lover before,during and after these ludicrious claims that he died in November 1966,Jane was and is very intelligent as well as beautiful,she would have known who her real lover of 5 years was!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: cubanheel on January 06, 2011, 12:43:48 PM
May have mentioned it before, but Pauls' kids look like his relatives, eg his dad and brother, so the Paul impostor must have been his spare brother Fred, who nobody had heard of previously. There, I've solved the puzzle. Do I win something?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 28, 2011, 03:36:27 AM
Yes, you win my 1969 vintage White Album.  Most of the tracks are scratched from playing them backward and forward at different speeds.  ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Gary910 on March 31, 2011, 12:57:26 AM
When William Campbell dies, the real Paul McCartney will come out hiding.

The real Paul McCartney never died, he just got tired of "Beatlemania" and so was replaced. The other band members had decided to never talk to him again, so they considered him "dead". He was replaced by a look-alike named William Campbell.

... And it isn't even April 1.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on March 31, 2011, 08:35:29 PM
Oh PID rumors.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 04, 2011, 03:40:39 AM
THE BEATLES Remasters! /// 12. Stg. Pepper's... (Reprise) - (SPLHCB) - (MONO Remastered 2009) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtqP6FAdBWU#ws)

http://www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/YAReprise.mp3 (http://www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/YAReprise.mp3)


What are you shouting about, Paul?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 04, 2011, 03:41:43 AM
Not you, Paul JMF, Paul Paul.  ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Walrus on July 18, 2011, 03:23:18 PM
There is a pretty big clue proving that it's just a joke...
On the Abbey Road album cover, there is a Volkswagen Beatle on the left side of the road. If you look closely you'll see the license plate reads "28 IF". Paul was 28 at that time. The "IF" implies that if he weren't dead, he would be 28. Much later, after the seperation of the Beatles, Paul's album "Paul is Live" features the same famous Abbey Road scene. If you read the license plate on the Volkswagen Beatles this time, it says "51 IS". Paul was 51 at the release of the album. The license plate and the title implies that Paul is saying he is not dead, but it was a stupid joke.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rV95R6_go5s/SS2XWCH7X8I/AAAAAAAABos/AF9hgz35q28/s400/28ifcloseup.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 18, 2011, 04:22:01 PM
There is a pretty big clue proving that it's just a joke...
On the Abbey Road album cover, there is a Volkswagen Beatle on the left side of the road. If you look closely you'll see the license plate reads "28 IF". Paul was 28 at that time. The "IF" implies that if he weren't dead, he would be 28. Much later, after the seperation of the Beatles, Paul's album "Paul is Live" features the same famous Abbey Road scene. If you read the license plate on the Volkswagen Beatles this time, it says "51 IS". Paul was 51 at the release of the album. The license plate and the title implies that Paul is saying he is not dead, but it was a stupid joke.

([url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rV95R6_go5s/SS2XWCH7X8I/AAAAAAAABos/AF9hgz35q28/s400/28ifcloseup.jpg[/url])



(http://i52.tinypic.com/2di4qqg.jpg)



(http://i56.tinypic.com/1zn32aa.jpg)


Welcome to the Forum, Walrus.



Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: stevie on August 03, 2011, 02:06:39 AM
http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68399 (http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68399)

Thought you guys might get a laugh from this!  My other passion in life is St.Kilda Australian Football Club, of which i frequent this fan forum.

Someone wondered whether one of our star players had had cosmetic surgery done - anyway, there is a few Beatle and music fans on this site and it inevitably led to joking about Paul Is Dead, etc.

Read the whole thread and you should get a laugh!!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: In My Life on August 03, 2011, 02:50:52 AM
Quote from: stevie
Read the whole thread and you should get a laugh!!
Quote

  ;D  Beatles fans are everywhere I guess!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Walrus on August 10, 2011, 02:00:00 AM
sure the paul story is interesting, but that's old news...
i think we're forgetting about ringo's replacement, billy shears
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 16, 2011, 04:32:30 AM
Bernard Purdie?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: stevejrogers on December 24, 2011, 12:57:24 AM
Listening to a podcast that was being recorded as the recent Bon Jovi death hoax started making the rounds on the internet.

One of the hosts suggested that crap like that would never have flown in the days before the internet.  No sooner did that suggestion come out of his mouth did one of his co-hosts say "Paul is Dead rumors?

Thought that was kinda funny.  BUT, imagine if the internet was around that fateful night when that radio DJ was just reading off that for fun article.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 24, 2011, 01:46:45 AM
The rumor started about a month prior to that radio show when articles began appearing in college newspapers.  Even with no internet, the rumor spread quickly.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: In My Life on December 24, 2011, 06:02:42 AM
  No sooner did that suggestion come out of his mouth did one of his co-hosts say "Paul is Dead rumors?

That was my first thought when I heard the Bon Jovi rumor. Hmm...maybe that's really Fon standing in front of the tree in that picture.  ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 11, 2012, 12:40:15 AM
Well here's another clue for you all...


Paul Is Dead - CLUE - Blue Jay Way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwUMh6Ie4zc#)




(http://i56.tinypic.com/2cxzuhj.jpg)        (http://i55.tinypic.com/2uetjxf.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: TomMo on June 09, 2012, 04:47:46 PM
Strangely, I first heard the rumor as early as the summer of 1968, before the Holy Grail of clues, better known as the "White Album", was released. At that time, there were precious few clues, and the rumor was (believe it or not) that Paul intended to kill himself, live on TV, on the "Ed Sullivan Show", to protest the Vietnam War. No, seriously.

It sounded like so much BS to me, I didn't even bother to do anything but laugh. I heard it from some students that attended the University of Wisconsin. Then, when the big story broke in 1969, I thought to myself, "Where have I heard this crap before?"
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: TomMo on June 09, 2012, 04:49:30 PM
It's the very last comment that I agree with the most!

Here's a question for everyone - has a conspiracy theory ever been proved to be correct? I can't think of one. Maybe Bay of Pigs?

Personally, I'm hoping someone can prove the "John Is Alive" theory, myself.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: TomMo on June 09, 2012, 04:55:03 PM
Quote from:  link=topic=2544.msg60632#msg60632 date=1114834602
I also heard a guy give a lecture on it once and he said toward the end of 'Gently Weeps' that George is singing 'Paul Paul'.

There was also the deal with their name being a phone number. The first three letters like they're spelled out on Magical Mystery Tour are 834, which is also the time on the board in the MMT booklet behind John the mustachioed ticket man. Supposedly someone called the number and there was a message saying "You're getting closer".

The lecturer knows his stuff. If you isolate George's vocal, it sounds like, "Oh, Paul", several times, sung in a mournful tone. Then, the ghost of Macca chimes in with "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah..."

As for the MMT booklet, you have to hold it up to a mirror to clearly see the number.

Not that I believe any of it, just wanted to clarify the rumor.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: TomMo on June 09, 2012, 05:06:38 PM
Okay, here's another clue for you all: Paul's death had to have taken place before July 20, 1968. Why? This was the date when Paul's engagement with Jane Asher was ended. The Beatles were concerned that if William Campbell were to make love with Jane, she would know it wasn't the real Paul. After all, everybody knows that Paul was quite well-endowed from the clue in "Mr. Kite"...you know, Henry the Horse. And you all thought the word, "waltz", referred to a dance.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: TomMo on June 09, 2012, 05:13:21 PM
Perhaps the best take on the "Paul Is Dead" hoax was by George Carlin: "If you play the new Beatles record backwards, it will screw up your needle."
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Dcazz on June 13, 2012, 12:34:34 AM
I haven't gone through the whole thread but, at the risk of possibly repeating a post I think one of the most important clues for a hoax is the banquet scene in the MMT booklet. If you don't know about it try this. Get some freinds (at least one) and open the booklet to the baquet scene. Have someone hold the open page against the wall with the mans beret at the top. Eveyone else stand back 10-15 feet and see what you get. Note that the scene was not in the movie so it was deliberatly put there with someones approval. Fun stuff but I say a hoax!
You can enjoy this more if you get a few beers going and listen to the album while doing this!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 13, 2012, 02:14:49 AM
I haven't gone through the whole thread but, at the risk of possibly repeating a post I think one of the most important clues for a hoax is the banquet scene in the MMT booklet. If you don't know about it try this. Get some freinds (at least one) and open the booklet to the baquet scene. Have someone hold the open page against the wall with the mans beret at the top. Eveyone else stand back 10-15 feet and see what you get. Note that the scene was not in the movie so it was deliberatly put there with someones approval. Fun stuff but I say a hoax!
You can enjoy this more if you get a few beers going and listen to the album while doing this!


Far out!

You wanna know who really started the rumor?  It was these girls singing "We Love You Beatles" outside the Plaza Hotel in February 1964...

(http://i47.tinypic.com/oa4tnm.jpg)



The Beatles -- The First US Visit Part Four (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9yPuvkUjqY#)

6:53
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: TomMo on June 15, 2012, 01:59:46 PM
And the hoax goes on...

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1ece_1s4bkU/Squl9tnvrCI/AAAAAAAADYE/WPHedn9aNyc/s1600h/21-fitz_09_11_beatles.ss_full.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 15, 2012, 11:42:26 PM
And the hoax goes on...


...or is it?


...or is it? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiD8oBKO78Y#)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: TomMo on June 19, 2012, 01:39:38 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1ece_1s4bkU/Squl9tnvrCI/AAAAAAAADYE/WPHedn9aNyc/s400/21-fitz_09_11_beatles.ss_full.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Dcazz on June 19, 2012, 10:18:10 PM
Well Dad, Is it!?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 05, 2012, 04:51:45 AM
Memory Almost Full

Gratitude

Paul McCartney-Gratitude (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRKhqdb8EoE#)



And now in reverse...

Full GRATITUDE Paul Mccartney Song In Reverse! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfKr1fhvr7Q#)

Paul Is Dead: A 'Gratitude' Clue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvRi7fhGRgU#)

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 05, 2012, 04:55:50 AM
I was Willy Campbell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkorFjeHDLQ#)


There's only one way to go out.

How's that?

SINGING!

All together now!!!      ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 13, 2012, 05:15:14 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/1zfsoax.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Dcazz on October 13, 2012, 11:54:16 AM
([url]http://i45.tinypic.com/1zfsoax.jpg[/url])
Funny! I never saw that one till now!
Do you know the year?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 14, 2012, 03:25:09 AM
It's the June 1970 issue, Dave.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Jema on October 14, 2012, 04:48:01 AM
([url]http://i45.tinypic.com/1zfsoax.jpg[/url])
That's wicked awesome!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 14, 2012, 06:05:17 AM
That's wicked awesome!



(http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Bat5.jpg)

(http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Bat6.jpg)



(http://i55.tinypic.com/mjtgsh.jpg)

Holy cranberry sauce, Batman!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Jema on October 14, 2012, 01:58:55 PM

([url]http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Bat5.jpg[/url])

([url]http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Bat6.jpg[/url])



([url]http://i55.tinypic.com/mjtgsh.jpg[/url])

Holy cranberry sauce, Batman!
That was really awesome, thanks for posting :) ! I thought it was clever how they said it was Alfred's birthday just because they needed to hear Saul sing ha2ha
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on October 15, 2012, 08:11:19 PM
Pretty cool. Never saw that before.
Btw, I still think Batman and Robin look ridiculous.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 15, 2012, 08:41:23 PM
Btw, I still think Batman and Robin look ridiculous.


What about Batgirl?


(http://www.thebatsite.co.uk/images/robin_batgirl_batman.jpg)

(http://bruehoyt.com/superheroes/DC/batman/batgirl/batyvonne4.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on October 22, 2012, 07:14:06 AM
What about Batgirl?


Just slighty better. Just.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 15, 2012, 04:12:01 AM
Well here's another clue for you all...


Magical Mystery Tour - Paul's Dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gawd7YVTiaw#)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: smithee on April 18, 2013, 01:51:38 PM
Hi everyone,

I've been a fan of this board for a while now, but this is my first post.  Sorry if this question has been raised before, but I haven't seen it.  It's just something I've always been confused about.

As I understand it, the whole "Paul is Dead" rumor started on a college campus in late 1969, then really took off when a Detroit disc jockey talked about it on his show in October of that year, followed by a NYC disc jockey later that month.

Now, one of the most famous (and obvious) "clues" is John's line in Glass Onion, "Here's another clue for you all, the walrus was Paul."  In at least one interview I've read, John said that he added that line in response to all the folks who were scouring the albums and songs for clues that Paul was dead and had been replaced by a double.

But the White Album came out in 1968, a full year before the rumor started and people started looking for clues.  So what was John responding to? 

Don't get me wrong.  I don't for a second believe Paul is dead, and I don't mean to imply that the Beatles really were placing clues in their music.  This is just something I've always been confused about, so I thought I'd ask the good folks on this board for help.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Klang on April 18, 2013, 01:56:33 PM

Good question. Dunno.

 ???

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Ovi on April 18, 2013, 02:56:34 PM
John just got his thoughts mixed up probably. My guess is that he wrote the song - just like 'I Am The Walrus' - as a "take that!" to the fans who over-analyze everything, including the whole walrus concept.

I wouldn't read too much into it, honestly.

Welcome to the forum, by the way. :)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 18, 2013, 08:31:49 PM
Hi everyone,

I've been a fan of this board for a while now, but this is my first post.  Sorry if this question has been raised before, but I haven't seen it.  It's just something I've always been confused about.

As I understand it, the whole "Paul is Dead" rumor started on a college campus in late 1969, then really took off when a Detroit disc jockey talked about it on his show in October of that year, followed by a NYC disc jockey later that month.

Now, one of the most famous (and obvious) "clues" is John's line in Glass Onion, "Here's another clue for you all, the walrus was Paul."  In at least one interview I've read, John said that he added that line in response to all the folks who were scouring the albums and songs for clues that Paul was dead and had been replaced by a double.

But the White Album came out in 1968, a full year before the rumor started and people started looking for clues.  So what was John responding to? 

Don't get me wrong.  I don't for a second believe Paul is dead, and I don't mean to imply that the Beatles really were placing clues in their music.  This is just something I've always been confused about, so I thought I'd ask the good folks on this board for help.


I think George explained it best when he said...


(http://i49.tinypic.com/s1u3w1.jpg)

"It’s all in the mind."
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 18, 2013, 08:33:26 PM
Welcome to the Forum, smithee!  Enjoy your stay.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: smithee on April 18, 2013, 09:34:18 PM
Thanks for the friendly welcomes.  It's fun to actually post on this site after enjoying it as a lurker for so long.

I guess my previous post got me in a mood to think more about this whole rumor thing.  (And I agree, it probably is all in the mind.)  Has anyone who actually believes the rumor every addressed the following fairly basic questions? 

1. After going to quite a bit of effort to create a faux Paul--plastic surgery, cover-ups, presumably lessons to train the imposter to sing and play like Paul--why would the Beatles then go out of their way to place clues that would give the whole thing away?  If they thought it was important enough to do it in the first place, whytake such a big chance?  And wouldn't Billy Campbell (or Billy Shears, or whoever) say, "Wait a minute, guys, I just went through hell for this.  I gave up my whole life to be Paul.  Don't blow it for me!"  I just don't see the point of the elaborate cover-up, followed by equally elaborate clues to reveal the cover-up.

2. Generally the rumor-supporters say that Faul (there, I've said it) had to undergo a series of surgeries, which is why he looked least like "the real Paul" around the time of Sgt. Pepper.  But during that time Paul was regularly seen out and about in London at parties, shows, openings, etc.  Did anyone ever notice any scars?  They wouldn't heal overnight.

3. Most rumor-supporters say the Beatles agreed to (or initiated) the Paul-replacement to keep the band alive.  So why bother to maintain the cover-up after the band broke up?  I'm thinking especially of John around 1970-71, when he was at the peak of his Beatles myth busting, his whole "the dream is over" phase, when he also seemed most angry at Paul and didn't mind insulting him.  While he was intent on telling people the "reality" of the Beatles in the Lennon Remembers interview, for example, why didn't he say, "Plus, Paul isn't really Paul. That was just another myth."?  I guess the really hardcore rumor folks would say he feared he would be killed if he blew the secret.  But then we're back to question number 1.

And then there are the obvious issues of, I suppose, either paying off or intimidating: the police at the car crash site, the doctors and nurses who performed the surgeries on Faul, all of Paul's family and friends, all of Faul's family and friends, George Martin, and everyone else who worked with or supported the Beatles.  That's a lot of folks, and no one's blabbed after all this time? 

Sorry if all of this has been addressed before, but I haven't seen some of these pretty basic issues covered, at least to my knowledge.  Most people tend to focus on possible physical differences between Paul and Faul, and of course, the "clues."  It's good every once in a while to get back (so to speak) to the roots of the question.  I'm also not trying to be antagonistic to people who believe the rumors.  If you can answer my questions, I'm very happy to hear it.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 19, 2013, 01:09:48 AM
I just don't see the point of the elaborate cover-up, followed by equally elaborate clues to reveal the cover-up.


It sure sold a lot of records in late 1969.  People were buying LPs just to play them backwards!

Same thing with the "more popular than Jesus" remark.  People bought Beatles LPs just to burn them!

But OK, smithee, since you chose to make your first post in this thread, what's Paul yelling here?


http://www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/YAReprise.mp3 (http://www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/YAReprise.mp3) 



;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: smithee on April 19, 2013, 02:45:38 PM
I don't suppose it's, "I was killed in a car crash."  Or "Hi, my name's Willy"? 

But seriously, I'm afraid I don't hear much that's intelligible.  The best I can come up with is something like "Shakin' in the band" or *something* "in the band."

Do other folks hear something I'm missing?  To be honest, I think a lot of the backward clues and aural clues in general are like Rorschach tests, where the brain is trying to create recognizable order or patterns from something indistinct.  Like finding animals or faces in clouds.  Having said that, I do agree that the "I was Willy Campbell" line in Gratitude is kind of creepy.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on April 19, 2013, 05:17:18 PM
Thanks for the friendly welcomes.  It's fun to actually post on this site after enjoying it as a lurker for so long.

I guess my previous post got me in a mood to think more about this whole rumor thing.  (And I agree, it probably is all in the mind.)  Has anyone who actually believes the rumor every addressed the following fairly basic questions? 



Hi Smithee.
I'm not sure what you're after here. Asking us why people believe the PID story is like asking the Pope why people believe in evolution.
In my experience folk who come here toutng this and the The FBI killed John thing are little more than slightly sad attention seekers who post  about  nothing else then disappear.
Present company excepted of course.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: smithee on April 19, 2013, 05:50:09 PM
Hi Kevin,

Sorry, no harm intended.  Looking back through this thread, it seemed like there were posts from people who actually believe the rumors, and I thought if I was ever going to get some input from a believer this would be the place.  But if, as you say, they've all moved on (maybe they're busy tracking Paul to try to get DNA samples) then I guess I'll move on too.

This is a great forum though, so maybe I'll just try a different thread.

 
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on April 19, 2013, 09:07:48 PM
What religion is that where a walrus is a symbol for the dead?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 19, 2013, 11:46:14 PM
What religion is that where a walrus is a symbol for the dead?


That's explained here...


DEATH RUMOURS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwjurvrb1ss#)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 19, 2013, 11:54:20 PM
(http://www.rutles.org/rpix/srodcb.jpg)


On the Sgt. Rutter album he was leaning in the exact position of a dying Yeti (from the Rutland Book of the Dead).

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 20, 2013, 01:45:27 AM
But the walrus thing all started here, Cor, in the 7 November 1969 issue of LIFE Magazine...


(http://i37.tinypic.com/15g2yp1.jpg)




John Neary, the author of the article The Magical McCartney Mystery, mentioned that the black walrus was a folk symbol of death...


(http://i37.tinypic.com/ftltaw.jpg)


No one knows where he got that information.  The dying Yeti explanation makes a whole lot more sense to me.   ;D




I guess I didn't explain anything at all.

 
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 20, 2013, 01:46:49 AM
But you can read the whole article here:  http://books.google.com/books?id=5FAEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=5FAEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 20, 2013, 02:45:57 AM
I don't suppose it's, "I was killed in a car crash."  Or "Hi, my name's Willy"? 

But seriously, I'm afraid I don't hear much that's intelligible.  The best I can come up with is something like "Shakin' in the band" or *something* "in the band."

Do other folks hear something I'm missing?  To be honest, I think a lot of the backward clues and aural clues in general are like Rorschach tests, where the brain is trying to create recognizable order or patterns from something indistinct.  Like finding animals or faces in clouds.  Having said that, I do agree that the "I was Willy Campbell" line in Gratitude is kind of creepy.

Listen to it a few more times, smithee, but don't concentrate too hard on it.  See if it becomes more intelligible that way.

Yes, the Gratitude backward bit was really creepy!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Kevin on April 20, 2013, 05:44:13 AM
Hi Kevin,

Sorry, no harm intended.  Looking back through this thread, it seemed like there were posts from people who actually believe the rumors, and I thought if I was ever going to get some input from a believer this would be the place.  But if, as you say, they've all moved on (maybe they're busy tracking Paul to try to get DNA samples) then I guess I'll move on too.

This is a great forum though, so maybe I'll just try a different thread.

No no I like talking about this stuff. Just that it's going to be difficult to find anyone here able to explain the rationale of the PIDists
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on April 20, 2013, 02:27:49 PM
I guess I didn't explain anything at all.


Don't say I didn't warn you.

It's the same with the hand above his hand. A so called symbol for the death. I don't know. Never heard of it.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: smithee on April 20, 2013, 04:53:34 PM
Hi Kevin,

Thanks, I was afraid I screwed up with my very first post here.  Sort of like showing up at a party where you don't know anyone and right away spilling a drink on the host.

Anyway, just because I like stuff like this, I'm going to propose a new theory.  (And no, I don't seriously believe this either.  I'm just doing it to show how "clues" can be interpreted many ways.)  Here we go: 

Ringo is dead!

That's right, the clues were real, but we got the wrong guy.  What if it was Ringo who died in that car accident, not Paul?  Let's see...

Sergeant Pepper:  Yes, the cover is a grave site, but if you look at the wax figures of the "old" Beatles, Ringo is in front of the other three, not in line.  He certainly looks the saddest of the four, and Paul seems to have his hand on Ringo's shoulder, comforting him.  In the actual music, when the band sings, "So let me introduce to you the one and only Billy Shears," who then starts to sing?  Right, it's Ringo.  If they meant that Paul was Billy Shears, they would have gone into Fixing a Hole, not With a Little Help from My Friends.  And don't forget, a couple years later, in I'm the Greatest, Ringo sings explicitly, "Yes, my name is Billy Shears.  You know it has been for so many years."  Surely a confession.  Speaking of With a Little Help from My Friends, Ringo is the one who asks, "What would you do if I sang out of tune?"  Is he worried that he won't fit in as the new Ringo?  But no, he "gets by with a little help from my friends."  The other three are helping him with his impersonation.  All of the other lyric clues on Sgt. Pepper still stand:  "He blew his mind out in a car", etc.

The White Album:  It's Ringo who sings, "you were in a car crash, and you lost your hair."  Was he singing this to the "real" Ringo, the man he replaced?

Abbey Road:  Yes, the cover is a funeral procession, but at least in America (I don't know the traditions in England) the body of the person to be buried usually goes before the mourners, who follow behind.  Therefore, John is the minister/priest/whatever, poor Ringo is the corpse, to be buried in his best suit, Paul is a mourner (surely being barefoot must be a sign of mourning in some culture somewhere in the world) and George is still the gravedigger.

The Batman comic book, shown earlier in the thread, nearly gets it right, or was it planted to show the Beatles' real intent?  In the comic, the band member who's thought to be dead, confesses at the end that he's still alive; it's the others who were killed.  Maybe some of the "Paul" specific clues, like the black carnation in Magical Mystery Tour, were intended to focus our attention on the wrong guy, so we wouldn't look too closely at Faux Ringo.

The other clues about car crashes, death, three Beatles, etc. could simply be referring to the death of Ringo, not Paul.  In a way, this makes more sense than a fake Paul.  At least according to legend, Ringo got more fan mail than any of the others, so it would be important to keep his death a secret from the fans.  And it would certainly be easier to cover up his death than Paul's; you don't need to explain how this imposter could write songs as well as a Paul imposter, or sing as well.  Ringo didn't write many songs, and no one ever said he was a great singer.  Likeable, but not great.

I'm sure if I went through all the albums, studied the covers and played the songs backwards with this in mind, I could find more clues, but this is just off the top of my head.  I would have placed this post in the "Ringo is Dead" thread, but for some inexplicable reason that thread doesn't exist.  A cover-up? 
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2013, 12:40:37 AM
Don't say I didn't warn you.

It's the same with the hand above his hand. A so called symbol for the death. I don't know. Never heard of it.

Maybe John Neary made that up too.  Who knows?!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2013, 12:53:51 AM
Ringo is dead!

...A cover-up? 


There's no cover-up.  Ringo is dead!  We've known that for a while.  And we know who replaced him all those years ago...


(http://i35.tinypic.com/30xd652.jpg)


(http://i38.tinypic.com/2gua59j.jpg)


(http://i35.tinypic.com/2lbgdbd.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: smithee on April 21, 2013, 01:57:14 AM
By god, I think you're onto something!  Maybe Ringo didn't die in a car accident.  Maybe *that* was just a cover story.  He quit to join the PLO.  *That's* why they needed to bring in an impostor.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2013, 02:53:42 AM
^

I think you've got it!  By George you got it!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2013, 02:54:41 AM
My Fair Lady - The Rain In Spain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVmU3iANbgk#)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2013, 02:55:35 AM
Now, what about Paul?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2013, 05:17:14 AM
It's the same with the hand above his hand. A so called symbol for the death. I don't know. Never heard of it.


Well, it looks like John Neary came up with this...


(http://i34.tinypic.com/8vuvf6.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2013, 05:29:00 AM
But wait!  Here's another clue for you all. 

The article ends with this picture taken in Scotland...


(http://i34.tinypic.com/33bihyc.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2013, 05:43:43 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/13/article-2308555-19445AAF000005DC-851_634x891.jpg)


(http://static.nme.com/images/gallery/PaulMcCartneyBalletGb210911.jpg)


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/08/article-2245121-14409B90000005DC-961_634x449.jpg)


(http://www.ispauldead.com/mediac/450_0/media/LastPage.jpg)



We're right back where we started.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: nimrod on April 21, 2013, 08:07:41 AM
([url]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/13/article-2308555-19445AAF000005DC-851_634x891.jpg[/url])





looks like an add for Nike :D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: stevie on April 21, 2013, 09:38:49 AM
Ringo dead?

Hmm, so that's why 'Yellow Submarine' played backwards says ' psst...I'm not the real drummer' at 1:34

 ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: smithee on April 21, 2013, 05:15:39 PM
HelloGoodbye,

Sorry, I've listened to that snippet from Sgt Pepper that you posted so many times now it's a good thing my wife isn't here or she'd think I'm nuts.  (Maybe she already does.)  But I still got nothing.  The only thing that I can make out is, "In the band, in the band," or something like that.  Break it to me, what am I missing?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 22, 2013, 01:08:44 AM
Ringo dead?

Hmm, so that's why 'Yellow Submarine' played backwards says ' psst...I'm not the real drummer' at 1:34

 ;D

 ;D

We should start a Ringo is Dead: Story & Clues thread in the Ringo Starr forum.  ;)

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 22, 2013, 01:19:36 AM
HelloGoodbye,

Sorry, I've listened to that snippet from Sgt Pepper that you posted so many times now it's a good thing my wife isn't here or she'd think I'm nuts.  (Maybe she already does.)  But I still got nothing.  The only thing that I can make out is, "In the band, in the band," or something like that.  Break it to me, what am I missing?


"I don't want to scare anyone..."


Sgt. Peppers Reprise Paul's Message (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpI4RlE4Nv4#ws)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 22, 2013, 01:26:58 AM
looks like an add for Nike :D


MONEY (1962) by the Beatles with Pete Best (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3If5AWP5eL4#ws)



;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Klang on April 22, 2013, 03:02:38 PM
"I don't want to scare anyone..."

Maybe it's just a reference to the psychedelia they had gotten into.

 roll:)

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: smithee on April 22, 2013, 03:58:30 PM
HelloGoodbye,

I gotta be honest, I'm not getting it.  Even listening to it after reading what Paul's supposed to be saying, I still don't hear it.  Still sounds like "Shaking (or something) in the band, in the band."  Maybe it's me.  I'm usually fine at hearing all the other aural clues, but this one's beyond me.

But I think I may have found a clue that I haven't seen folks mention before.  In the promo music video for Strawberry Fields Forever, the one where the Beatles are playing around near a broken piano and a tree, check out about 1:20 into it.  This is when John is singing, "No one, I think, is in my tree."  But just at that moment, someone *is* in the tree...Paul!  Just a coincidence?  I think not!  Is this John's way of saying that the person in the tree isn't real? In other words, Paul is dead!

I would have embedded the video in my post, but I don't seem to be smart enough to do that.  (I'm not particularly bright.)


Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 22, 2013, 04:10:27 PM
I gotta be honest, I'm not getting it.  Even listening to it after reading what Paul's supposed to be saying, I still don't hear it.  Still sounds like "Shaking (or something) in the band, in the band."  Maybe it's me.  I'm usually fine at hearing all the other aural clues, but this one's beyond me.

Hehe, you heard nothing!


;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 22, 2013, 11:59:22 PM
But I think I may have found a clue that I haven't seen folks mention before.  In the promo music video for Strawberry Fields Forever, the one where the Beatles are playing around near a broken piano and a tree, check out about 1:20 into it.  This is when John is singing, "No one, I think, is in my tree."  But just at that moment, someone *is* in the tree...Paul!  Just a coincidence?  I think not!  Is this John's way of saying that the person in the tree isn't real? In other words, Paul is dead!



The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever [Official Video] [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzcZttcpYFQ#ws)

Nah!  Paul's wearing shoes.




I would have embedded the video in my post, but I don't seem to be smart enough to do that.  (I'm not particularly bright.)


Just copy the url in the address bar of the YouTube video you're watching and paste it into your message.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 28, 2013, 01:31:30 AM
Listen again, smithee...


The Beatles - "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" (Mono) [Full Album] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oULZNUbuTMs#)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 21, 2013, 01:55:13 AM
Well, here's another clue for you all...


(http://i41.tinypic.com/f4mrth.jpg)


That's American author Stephen Crane whose right hand appears over Paul's head.  Noted for his Civil War novel The Red Badge Of Courage, he also wrote the short story The Open Boat...


(https://ia600805.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/3/items/olcovers564/olcovers564-L.zip&file=5647231-L.jpg)


...a story about his experience of surviving a shipwreck off the coast of Florida in 1897 while traveling to Cuba to work as a newspaper correspondent.  The ship he was on, the SS Commodore, sank after hitting a sandbar.  He and three other men were forced to navigate their way to shore in a small boat.  One of the men, an oiler named Billie Higgins, drowned after the boat overturned.

Four men started the journey, but only three finished.

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Moogmodule on December 21, 2013, 02:05:56 AM
Well, here's another clue for you all...




I thought I'd heard all the clues til that one. That's a beauty

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Dcazz on December 21, 2013, 03:22:28 AM
This is my favorite clue from magical mystery tour!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 21, 2013, 03:37:59 AM
This is my favorite clue from magical mystery tour!

That used to be your avatar!


The eagle picks my eyes
The worm he licks my bone...

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Dcazz on December 21, 2013, 03:47:48 AM
Yes it was.

You know the reason why!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: In My Life on December 26, 2013, 07:34:41 PM
I thought I'd heard all the clues til that one. That's a beauty

Really! And that's what I love about the Beatles; I'm always learning something new, especially with a little help from my friends.  ;)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Dcazz on December 26, 2013, 08:12:53 PM
Well, here's another clue for you all...


([url]http://i41.tinypic.com/f4mrth.jpg[/url])


That's American author Stephen Crane whose right hand appears over Paul's head.  Noted for his Civil War novel The Red Badge Of Courage, he also wrote the short story The Open Boat...


([url]https://ia600805.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/3/items/olcovers564/olcovers564-L.zip&file=5647231-L.jpg[/url])


...a story about his experience of surviving a shipwreck off the coast of Florida in 1897 while traveling to Cuba to work as a newspaper correspondent.  The ship he was on, the SS Commodore, sank after hitting a sandbar.  He and three other men were forced to navigate their way to shore in a small boat.  One of the men, an oiler named Billie Higgins, drowned after the boat overturned.

Four men started the journey, but only three finished.
Hmmm, new to me too!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on January 04, 2014, 06:22:11 AM
Well, here's another clue for you all...


Revolution 9 Backmask (backwards) by The Beatles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG0wksBzKSc#)


I wish I had this video when I was in college.  The only way we could play Revolution 9 backwards was to disconnect the drive belt on a turntable and spin the record in reverse with our fingers, as close as possible to 33 1/3 RPM.  It was hard to do for extended periods of time.

But here we have Revolution 9 at the correct speed in reverse along with a transcription.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Moogmodule on January 05, 2014, 03:19:04 AM
Well, here's another clue for you all...


Revolution 9 Backmask (backwards) by The Beatles ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG0wksBzKSc#[/url])


I wish I had this video when I was in college.  The only way we could play Revolution 9 backwards was to disconnect the drive belt on a turntable and spin the record in reverse with our fingers, as close as possible to 33 1/3 RPM.  It was hard to do for extended periods of time.

But here we have Revolution 9 at the correct speed in reverse along with a transcription.


That's a handy resource. Thanks for that.

Rev 9 gets a lot of stick. Not surprisingly. But I do think that as a piece of aural art it's pretty effective. I find it a very disturbing track.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Bobber on January 06, 2014, 02:54:51 PM
You need a lot of imagination to really make something of Revolution #9 played backwards. It's hard enough to make something of it played forward.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on January 08, 2014, 04:13:58 AM
Maybe we should try playing it upside down.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Dcazz on January 08, 2014, 12:57:57 PM
I'm sure someone has! I found it hard to get past Yoko's part, I agree it was disturbing! The "Get me out" and "Turn me on, dead man" are the most compelling clues but a lot of the comments are disjointed and don't really have much to them. Interesting!
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 28, 2014, 04:26:21 AM
If Paul isn't dead then I'm sure there were times when he looked at this idiot and wished he were!


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/07/article-0-028FAF3400000578-814_468x286.jpg)

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2dl69t5.jpg)

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: nimrod on April 28, 2014, 05:04:29 AM
If Paul isn't dead then I'm sure there were times when he looked at this idiot and wished he were!


([url]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/07/article-0-028FAF3400000578-814_468x286.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i62.tinypic.com/2dl69t5.jpg[/url])


maybe Paul was the idiot for marrying her  roll:)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Dcazz on April 28, 2014, 11:11:46 AM
I heard him say in an interview that one of the reasons he married her was that she had the guts to slap him across the face! :P
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 28, 2014, 09:32:14 PM
(http://www.laineygossip.com/Content/images/articles/heather%20judge%201%20mar08.jpg)


(http://i41.tinypic.com/105sf**.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: tkitna on February 05, 2016, 01:03:45 AM
My buddy has passed the point of being interesting when it comes to conspiracy theories (he's flat out exhausting now) and he drilled me yesterday for almost an hour in how he thinks Paul really did die, but not in the car accident, but being murdered.  I guess he read some article that some girl stated that he was murdered for some reason and that the Beatles had been training his doppelganger up until that point.  Its completely ludicrous, but my friend believes in that sh*t and wont let it go.  He says there are photos of Paul and Jane before in which Paul is taller or shorter (I cant remember) then later pictures (Gave him a million reasons for that being possible,,,shoes, hair, slope of the ground,etc,,,).  He says Pauls teeth are different in later photos.  He also goes as far as saying that his voice sounds different from Revolver on.  Anyways, he's killing me and has challenged me to present to him proof that Paul never died.  I barely have the energy to even consider diving into this, but does anybody have concrete proof other then just normal common sense?  If not, I guess i'll kill a few hours.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: In My Life on February 05, 2016, 03:22:50 AM
Todd, I wouldn't spend too much time trying to disprove his theory. I deal with this sort of thing a lot where I work. I hear stuff from patrons all the time that makes me want to say, "Are you SERIOUS?" but of course I can't. Even if I could they would not change their minds anyway so I just acknowledge that I've heard them without saying I agree. You shouldn't have to present proof, just tell him that you can see he's given this a lot of thought then believe what you and I both know is true. But if all else fails show him this:

http://youtu.be/1kYDdBWESQw (http://youtu.be/1kYDdBWESQw)

 ;D
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 05, 2016, 04:11:15 AM
You shouldn't have to present proof, just tell him that you can see he's given this a lot of thought then believe what you and I both know is true.

How do you know what you know is true is really true?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: In My Life on February 05, 2016, 04:21:51 AM
How do you know what you know is true is really true?

Because Paul said so.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: tkitna on February 05, 2016, 06:46:36 AM
I just spent 10 minutes searching for stuff and got what I need.  Doesn't matter, he wont believe me anyways.
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Moogmodule on February 05, 2016, 09:24:04 PM
I just spent 10 minutes searching for stuff and got what I need.  Doesn't matter, he wont believe me anyways.
I just spent 10 minutes searching for stuff and got what I need.  Doesn't matter, he wont believe me anyways.

Yes. Good luck. The essence of conspiracy theorists is that all evidence is evidence of a conspiracy regardless of what it says.

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Klang on February 05, 2016, 09:55:05 PM

Double quote, eh? Looks like a clue to me.

 :P

Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Moogmodule on February 05, 2016, 10:34:23 PM
You're right. They're representative of the two Pauls!  :o
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: In My Life on February 05, 2016, 10:45:12 PM
A quote and a faote. Or is that a fuoat?
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 17, 2016, 06:13:18 AM
I heard a new clue today, oh boy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6qTSplv4IQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6qTSplv4IQ#)

In the outro of All You Need Is love    1:18
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Loco Mo on December 17, 2016, 11:28:40 AM
Hello:  Now I'm asking myself:  "Will Paul come back as Superman?"
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Fab4Fan on December 17, 2016, 07:51:35 PM
Hello:  Now I'm asking myself:  "Will Paul come back as Superman?"

Naw, he's already come back as Batman: The Dark Knight! (even the Queen and Scotland Yard can confirm this but I'm not supposed to tell you so!)
Title: Re: Paul is Dead: Story & Clues
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 08, 2017, 04:50:21 AM
Spotted on Abbey Road the other day...


(http://i63.tinypic.com/10mmu84.jpg)


The VW has returned.  This must mean something.