Topic: Ringo's Songs (Read 8209 times)

GreenApple · « **on:** January 08, 2006, 07:03:34 PM »

Did Ringo write any more than three songs in the 60s, would anybody know? I'm including Taking A Trip To Carolina of course. Is there a list anywhere on the net?

ma_tt2 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2006, 04:47:35 AM »

I believe he helped write What Goes On, he definatly didn't write this one on his own though.

Bobber · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2006, 02:26:30 PM »

He added a few words here and there.

GreenApple · « **Reply #3 on:** January 15, 2006, 04:35:19 PM »

The fact that they included Ringo in the credit seems to show that there was a real desire to get him as involved as possible. Wish he could have made a few more of his own compositions onto the records though.

I distinctly remember reading several years ago in a music mag that Ringo outsold all other three Beatles combined for solo albums in the first five years after they split!!! Incredible but (apparently) true! I'm not negatively surprised - all power to the ultimate working class hero himself!

raxo · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2006, 04:53:19 PM »

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The fact that they included Ringo in the credit seems to show that there was a real desire to get him as involved as possible. Wish he could have made a few more of his own compositions onto the records though.
...

He tried to record his Don't Pass Me By during the Guymania (I'm not sure if it was in 1963 but at least it was before 1965 cos Ringo mentioned it -and Paul answered to him- in a radio interview in 1964) but the rest of them didn't want to ... As I' said before in other thread: I'd prefered Don't Pass Me By in Guys For Sale better than in The Guys album.

GreenApple · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2006, 05:20:54 PM »

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As I' said before in other thread: I'd prefered Don't Pass Me By in Guys For Sale better than in The Guys album.

I agree with that. It just sounds like it would have worked better earlier on.

I've always felt somehow that Paul was the most pro-Ringo of the guys.

raxo · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2006, 05:52:52 PM »

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I agree with that. It just sounds like it would have worked better earlier on.

I've always felt somehow that Paul was the most pro-Ringo of the guys.

Agree. It would fit better on Guys For Sale's feeling (western & country, y'know). And some George's guitar work would have improved it.

I've always felt that the most pro-Ringo was George.

An Apple Beatle · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2006, 09:06:07 PM »

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I've always felt that the most pro-Ringo was George.

Me too. The Let It Be footage kinda clinches it.

GreenApple · « **Reply #8 on:** January 20, 2006, 05:29:59 PM »

George and Ringo were the insider/outsiders I guess. I reaffirm with Raxo again - DPMB absolutely belongs on Beatles For Sale, or thereabouts. It just sounds like an earlier phase guys song, I think.

raxo · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2006, 06:19:21 AM »

Even a better album:

You Know What To Do (Harrison) instead of Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby
Don't Pass Me By (Starkey) instead of Honey don't

GreenApple · « **Reply #10 on:** January 22, 2006, 05:07:58 PM »

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George and Ringo were the insider/outsiders I guess. I reaffirm with Raxo again - DPMB absolutely belongs on Beatles For Sale, or thereabouts. It just sounds like an earlier phase guys song, I think.

Agreed. And even still better, they never should have done any cover versions, but recorded now 'lost' songs instead!

raxo · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2006, 12:33:59 PM »

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He tried to record his Don't Pass Me By during the Guymania (I'm not sure if it was in 1963 but at least it was before 1965 cos Ringo mentioned it -and Paul answered to him- in a radio interview in 1964) but the rest of them didn't want to ... As I' said before in other thread: I'd prefered Don't Pass Me By in Guys For Sale better than in The Guys album.

In an interview in Auckland, New Zealand Ringo's talking about his song Don't Pass Me By and Carl Perkins made him nervous being at the "Matchbox" recording session. The song was written in 1963 and Paul sang it in the interview (Jun 24th, 1964) ... why was Paul singing it? Because three weeks later ...

... in another interview ... Paul sang it partially and then he claimed that he wrote the melody (July 14th, 1964)

Bobber · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2006, 02:30:40 PM »

^Can we listen to this somewhere?

raxo · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2006, 02:46:42 PM »

I'm still researching ... I've got only these descriptions of the interviews

raxo · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2006, 03:14:54 PM »

AUCKLAND, June 24, 1964 by Bob Rogers ROYAL INTERNATIONAL HOTEL

Q: Is there any chance that either Ringo or George is going to start writing
some songs? I mean, will they -

RINGO: Well, actually, George has written a few songs, and he'll tell you
all about them now.

GEORGE: I'll tell 'em what - yeah. Actually, I wrote one that was recorded.

PAUL: "Don't Bother Me", only one of the most sensational songs ever.

GEORGE: Tried writing a few more, but they were laughed off.

PAUL: No, no George!

JOHN: They weren't, George.

PAUL: [hums a bit of "You'll Know What To Do"] Copyright!

GEORGE: That's my tune.

JOHN: George wrote a very good tune on the second LP.

GEORGE: Oh! John'll tell 'em.

JOHN: Which is called "Don't Bother Me". Which a lot of people won't e-
they'll think it's ours, anyway, but George did write it, and a very strong
tune, George.

GEORGE: But, as far as Ringo and I are concerned, we'll leave the
songwriting to...

RINGO: Excuse me! Paul's gonna sing the one I've written!

PAUL: No, I can't re- I can't quite remember it.

RINGO: Well, I'll get - just for a plug, Paul.

PAUL: But even so, we just - Ringo has written one called "Don't pass me by,
don't make me cry, don't make me blue." A beautiful melody. Sincere, folks.

RINGO: That's it, yeah.

PAUL: "Don't Pass Me By," it's called.

RINGO: That's what it's called.

GEORGE: But Elvis killed it!

PAUL: Sincere thought, sir, but...

RINGO: Elvis killed it.

Q: What?

GEORGE: When he did it.

RINGO: Oh.

Q: Elvis killed it.

RINGO: No, he didn't.

PAUL: No, but you really - this is Ringo's first venture into songwriting.

JOHN: And are you going to sing it for us now, Ringo?

RINGO: I'm not going to sing it, Paul's going to sing it.

PAUL: [singing] "Don't pass me by/don't make me cry/don't make me blue,
yeah".

RINGO: It's got a blues feeling.

PAUL: A blues feeling, y'know. "You know darlin' I love onl-"...

JOHN: Country and western. Crumbly and western, one of those.

RINGO: Well, it was gonna be a western, but Paul sang it the other night as
blues feeling, and it knocked me out.

JOHN: It knocked you out, even though you wrote it?

RINGO: In fact, I'm gonna get a tape of him singing it for me very own.

Q: Are The Beatles going to record it?

RINGO: I don't know.

PAUL: You never know.

RINGO: But I don't think so, actually, I keep tryin' to push it on them
every time we make a record.

JOHN: And we always try and do, but... unluckily, there's never quite enough
time to fit Ringo's songs on. Because he never finishes it!

RINGO: It's finished!

PAUL: It's finished.

RINGO: We finished it.

JOHN: After 18 years...

Q: Ringo, why don't you give it to The Rolling Stones?

[pause]

JOHN: Well, answer that, Ringo!

RINGO: I - I don't -

PAUL: Answer that...

RINGO: I refuse to answer that one.

PAUL: You know why? Because this song has got a sentimental attachment for
us. And it's just one of those songs, like a old ring, that he'd never give
away.

From here: http://www.briefreporter.com/tue-jan-03-2006-730-am-vp320731.html

Bobber · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2006, 03:21:37 PM »

PAUL: It's finished.

RINGO: We finished it.

This could mean Paul was somehow involved with this song.

raxo · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2006, 03:35:23 PM »

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PAUL: It's finished.

RINGO: We finished it.

This could mean Paul was somehow involved with this song.

Yep, ... and Ringo insisted Paul to sing it: Paul (melody) and Ringo (lyrics)? My first source was this one (where it's said that Ringo "wrote" it mostly in 1963):

http://website.lineone.net/~johnpaulgeorgeringo/book3.htm

I'm still looking for this other interview where Paul sang it partially and then he claimed that he wrote the melody (July 14th, 1964).

I guess it's going to be very difficult to find clips of both, ... however, sure there are bootlegs.

Bobber · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2006, 03:38:29 PM »

I haven't got it here, but wasn't there something of New Zealand on the Uncut-cd of the Beatles Press Conferences?

raxo · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2006, 03:43:10 PM »

I've not got that one, but it has to be, yep.
There's a serie of bootlegs (about 6 or 8 discs, I think) including almost everything they said in interviews and press conferences.

GreenApple · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2006, 03:47:15 PM »

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Even a better album:

You Know What To Do (Harrison) instead of Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby
Don't Pass Me By (Starkey) instead of Honey don't

I quoted myself wrongly above! Here it is again, with the quote from Raxo!

Agreed. And even still better, they never should have done any cover versions, but recorded now 'lost' songs instead!

HOW BORING OF ME!

Anyway, Ringo was pushed aside with his appreciable song. That's bad enough. But, keeping him waiting around five years to get it recorded..!

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