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alexis

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Old Brown Shoe - Great song?
« on: October 20, 2008, 04:55:28 PM »

I have always been attracted to this song, it is so original in style/chords, etc.

I wonder though - if it had been released without the "Beatle treatment" (harmonies, McCartney Bass, Starr drums, phased/odd-beat piano) - would it have been as good, would it have sounded as good?

In other words, how much of it's excellentness (for those who feel it is) is due to the quality of the song itself, vs. the arrangement/production?

Thanks for your opinions  :)
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 06:58:11 PM »

I happened to listen to Old Brown Shoe the other day and my evil mind thought that John and Paul approved of releasing the song because Paul plays an excellent bass on the song!
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Re: Old Brown Shoe - Great song?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 07:44:18 PM »

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I wonder though - if it had been released without the "Beatle treatment" (harmonies, McCartney Bass, Starr drums, phased/odd-beat piano) - would it have been as good, would it have sounded as good?

In other words, how much of it's excellentness (for those who feel it is) is due to the quality of the song itself, vs. the arrangement/production?

Thanks for your opinions  :)

Have a listen to the demo version on Anthology 3: the dour and sardonic George of "Don't Bother Me" meets Bob Dylan. :)
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Re: Old Brown Shoe - Great song?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 07:45:48 PM »

Bass is fantastic but song is pretty poor.
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Re: Old Brown Shoe - Great song?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 08:23:21 PM »

Pretty boring song in my opinion. It just drags on. It gets a skip most times.
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Re: Old Brown Shoe - Great song?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 10:53:04 PM »

Of course, I love the song. According to Lewisohn's notes George did the arrangement for the recorded version on his birthday. And according to George:http://www.creemmagazine.com/_site/BeatGoesOn/GeorgeHarrison/Interview001.html
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2008, 01:59:24 AM »

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Of course, I love the song. According to Lewisohn's notes George did the arrangement for the recorded version on his birthday. And according to George:http://www.creemmagazine.com/_site/BeatGoesOn/GeorgeHarrison/Interview001.html


George was playing both bass and lead guitar on Old Brown Shoe. I didn't know that! Dana ; )



Great article, thanks! And who would have known that George played bass on that track!
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2008, 08:00:59 AM »

That's interesting. Didn't know that! I always thought that Paul did an amazing job on bass.
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 01:38:48 PM »

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George was playing both bass and lead guitar on Old Brown Shoe. I didn't know that! Dana ; )

I didn't know it either. I'd always assumed it was Paul.  :)
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2008, 01:49:40 PM »

and every source i have checked tells me it is indeed paul
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2008, 02:00:22 PM »

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and every source i have checked tells me it is indeed paul

Yeah... Ian Macdonald says it's Paul (p.305). Anyone have Lewisohn handy?

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Re: Old Brown Shoe - Great song?
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2008, 02:08:15 PM »

I do like this song...Didn't when I first got into The Beatles but since come to admire it's greatness more over time. It is a busy mix...I wonder if they were compensating at the time to what they considered may have been a weaker tune? I love the sound of the piano, the organ seems busy but I love it on the outro.

Regards the bassline it may have been Georg as it's very syncopated to the guitar line......Also love the sound of the big F guitar chord just before 'baby I'm in love with you.'

Oh and the drums....lol

I also got a hunch that George put the vocals down relatively quick and simply but they spent more time on accompaniment.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2008, 02:16:00 PM »

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Yeah... Ian Macdonald says it's Paul (p.305). Anyone have Lewisohn handy?



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Wednesday 16 April (1969)
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Proper, group recordings of `Old Brown Shoe' and
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on 25 February. Actually, George recorded a second demo of
'Old Brown Shoe' during this afternoon, 2.30
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2008, 02:22:07 PM »

A new mystery is born!

WHO PLAYS THE BASS ON OLD BROWN SHOE?  ;D
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2008, 02:59:22 PM »

^Heheh I got hold of the multi-tracks for A Day In The Life and I REALLY do know the answer to that one. ;)
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Re: Old Brown Shoe - Great song?
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2008, 05:25:40 PM »

When you listen to it, it does sound vintage macca but like you know if you spend long enough with someone you pick up there habits, sayings ways of doing things(way of Playing/Writing), so i think theres a good chance it George.
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Re: Old Brown Shoe - Great song?
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2008, 08:47:07 PM »

I've always thought that the three played guitar similarly. But that would be true since they all learned together and from each other (and "Teacher" Tony Sheridan). D ; )
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2008, 08:27:01 AM »

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^Heheh I got hold of the multi-tracks for A Day In The Life and I REALLY do know the answer to that one. ;)

Yeah, me too. I'm not telling though!!
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2008, 03:21:50 PM »

 
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Heheh I got hold of the multi-tracks for A Day In The Life and I REALLY do know the answer to that one.

What's the secret? Do tell. Dana ; )
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2008, 03:32:52 PM »

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What's the secret? Do tell. Dana ; )

Long ago, on a thread far, far away there was a discussion on who sang the 'Ahh's' on A Day In The Life. It's difficult to tell, but becomes slightly more apparent when you hear the multi-track.
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