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Solo forums => Paul McCartney => Topic started by: apple sauce on October 20, 2006, 10:48:25 AM
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Unfortunatley the court case of Heather Vs. Paul has turned somewhat ugly with allegations of drug and alcohol abuse along with verbal and physical tormenting also. This does nothing but tarnish an incredible music career of solo and Beatle work that "Paul" has given us! You would think that Heather would take a generous settlement and be on her way without dreadging up all this muck? Thoughts about this situation would be appreciated.
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My thoughts are on Paul Abuse thread
http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/m-1161255088/s-12/#num12
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In my opinion the only abuse Paul is guilty of is the Frog chorus!!
I think Heather is gradually showing her true colours while Paul has handled himself with total dignity.
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I bet Paul did not abuse Heather, but I also bet he wishe's he had now.....lol Seriously, I think it's a ploy typically used in divorces to make on partener look bad. If I was the judge presisding over this my ruling would be, Ms. Mills gets no money for her self, full visitation with the child, and a brand new prosthetic leg.....case dissmissed!
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I'm only a dedicated Beatles fan but I know the allegations of abuse by Paul are false. The only thing that's true is that he smokes pot & has been for over 40 years. She will only be a very small part of Beatles history unlike Yoko, Linda & Patti. His marriage to his soon to be ex-wife was the biggest mistake of McCartney's life & he will lose some money, but not too much for him, along with his reputation slightly bruised.
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I have a feeling this divorce is going to get uglier.
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I have a feeling this divorce is going to get uglier.
Sadly, with the millions at stake how could it end otherwise
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It's probably going to be much uglier than even the fans expect it to be Paulsluv, but Macca will survive with his image slightly bruised a bit.
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Maybe like Heather's face, wayne.
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If Heather has tapes as she claims, it sounds like she set him up.
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I believe our "Paul" is a bit of a control freak which would explain some of his bizzare behaviour. Prehaps when Heather knew it was going sour she decided to cover herself with these tapes? You know Paul is just going to fly to Scotlad somewhere and sit on a farm while contemplating where it all went wrong.
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maybe come out with a new album
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Paul will bounce back quickly she however will not, Paul has never been my favorite but I know he didn't do the things she is saying he did. She just wants more money and hopefully she'll get none. Besides Paul's already gone through one very messy, painful and public divorce in 1970 when he divorced The Beatles.
-Mr. Kite
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Very ugly if this is true:
MACCA GAGS LINDA TAPES
20 hours of her most intimate thoughts on her marriage to Macca.. could they now become the focus of his divorce battle with Heather? SIR Paul McCartney yesterday gagged tapes of intimate revelations made by his first wife Linda. Linda, who died in 1998, documented extraordinary details of their 29-year marriage in 15 tapes now held by her friend Peter Cox. It is understood they shed an alternative light on her "golden" relationship with Sir Paul, 64.
Amid fears they were to be made public and could feature in his divorce from Heather Mills, Macca, won an undertaling they would stay secret. An insider said: "They're dynamite." The 15 audio tapes are believed to cast an alternative light on the former Beatle
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Ouch.
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I can only speek for myself, but I always had bad feeling about Heather. Gold digger is the expression that crosses my mind.
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I'm sure it's only a coincidence that these tapes surfaced during the divorce proceedings ::)
Bullsh*t.
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I don't know why you seem to be attacking me for some reason with a sarcastic comment lennonlegend. I don't believe Paul did anything to her in the first place, she did it to him & she's only after his money. I knew his second marriage wouldn't last 5 years before the wedding & I was right. It's too bad you can't check my other posts about it on another website, but it was going down like the Titanic before their first date.
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I heard some rumors that on one of Linda's tapes she confesses to having a crush on Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits in the 60's & wanted to marry him instead of Macca.
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I don't know why you seem to be attacking me for some reason with a sarcastic comment lennonlegend. I don't believe Paul did anything to her in the first place, she did it to him & she's only after his money. I knew his second marriage wouldn't last 5 years before the wedding & I was right. It's too bad you can't check my other posts about it on another website, but it was going down like the Titanic before their first date.
Why can't i check your other posts about it on another website? hmmm, maybe because your accounts been deleted, Along with your posts, for being such an annoying a**hole yah?
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Quit it please... Wayne said in another topic he wants to stop the arguing, so give him a chance.
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I don't care if none of you believe me or not, if you can't find my posts on other websites, then I guess you're bigger idiots than I thought, like yourself BP. You can go to Classic Rock Forums to find out for yourself & I knew it wouldn't last because it was doomed from the start.
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I don't care if none of you believe me or not, if you can't find my posts on other websites, then I guess you're bigger idiots than I thought, like yourself BP.
OK, now I'm confused. What did I do this time?
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you and me are just the two people that he blames for everything. like democrats
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If you say so somedude 210 & I don't blame anybody for anything, but I do have strong opinions. I knew Paul's marriage to his second wife wouldn't last too long & his image will be bruised a bit after the divorce but he will survive thankfully.
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No, seriously: what were you calling me an idiot for? I thought we were going to try to get along, but I could be wrong...
If you act like an adult, I'll act like an adult and leave you alone. It's your choice. You reap what you sow.
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This is what you get when you marry a groupie and a gold digger. Where are Paul's kids during all of this? Shouldn't they be coming to his defense or something? I mean, he can't really say anything because of the pending court case, but I'm sure they could put in a few words on his behalf. Maybe he wants everyone to be quiet or something.
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Paul is only human, so we can't really say "Their is no way Paul did those things!". As huge admirer of Paul, I hate to say it but I won't really count out the fact that he may have done those things to Heather. She always looked like a b**** to me, so maybe she deserved it. Sour relationships can really bring out the nastiest sides of people.
Besides that, I'm very very curious as to what Linda said in those tapes. Makes me a little nervous that maybe their marriage wasn't all that it seemed to be. Its got to be pretty big if Paul doesn't want them getting to the public. Paul and Linda never really showed much affection towards each other in public. I think Heather and Paul showed more affection than Paul and Linda. I could be wrong, but thats what I've noticed. Maybe Linda wasn't as happy as Paul was, who knows. I'm really curious...
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This is what you get when you marry a groupie and a gold digger. Where are Paul's kids during all of this? Shouldn't they be coming to his defense or something? I mean, he can't really say anything because of the pending court case, but I'm sure they could put in a few words on his behalf. Maybe he wants everyone to be quiet or something.
Saying nothing and ignoring is a way to handle these things. Let the other one shout and wait for mistakes. More people should do that.
Paul and Linda had a long relationship. They undoubtedly had their fights and periods of misunderstanding and all that. There's nothing new.
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The whole thing is rather suspect. First of all, these tapes are being released by Heather and Peter Cox- both people who have grudges against Paul.
Secondly, as I said before, isn't it strange that these tapes only surfaced during the divorce proceedings?
Lastly, if Linda was so unhappy she wouldn't have stayed with Paul for thirty years.
But I agree with Sandra... where are Heather (Linda's), Mary, Stella, and James? Why don't they defend their father?
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Just my thoughts:
It may well be that the revelations on the tape are not that sensational that they would have caused much of a stir outside the context of this divorce. It's only coupled with heather's allegations that they will have any real newsworthiness. Also Mr Cox would also have appeared rather mean spirited releasing them without all the current goings-on to give him an excuse. He has seen his moment. (and their cash value must have skyrocketted)
And unfortunately, many woman stay in unhappy/abusive relationships. Who knows the real dynamics of their relationship.
Thec McCartney Camp strategy seems to be to maintain a respectful silence. And to be perceived as dragging his kids into the arena will not help Pauls image much.
After Linda's death Paul remarried with what seems rathewr indecent haste.And we've had the whole discussion about Paul's apparent indifference at the news of John's death.
How many times have people said "Of course Paul was in love", "of course Paul was in shock" "of course Paul isn't violent or abusive."
The truth is we don't know. Being a Beatle doesn't make you a saint. Paul (like John) is a human, and like all of us flawed. We just don't know.
A criticism often levelled at Pauls music is that he never bares his soul. He hides behind pretty words. A Macca fan, more than others, can't say that being a fan and listening to his music gives you some insight into the man's soul.
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But I agree with Sandra... where are Heather (Linda's), Mary, Stella, and James? Why don't they defend their father?
PAUL McCartney's daughter Stella threatened to KILL her hated stepmother in a blazing bust-up with her dad, we can reveal.
The fashion designer flew into a terrifying rage after hearing that Heather claimed Macca hit her mother Linda.
Pregnant Stella, 34, had to be restrained by the former Beatle as she screamed: "I'm going to kill that b****! I can't believe what she's doing! I'm going to kill her!'"
PICTURE EXCLUSIVE: BEA'S UNHAPPY BIRTHDAY
It was clear she didn't mean it literally but she was beside herself after reading what Heather had said about Linda.
"I told you she was a b****," she screamed. "Why did you marry her? She's been a manipulative cow from day one. The cow won't be happy until she destroys all of us
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And what source is THIS from?
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http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news1.shtml
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hmmm. it sounds a bit tabloid-ish to me.
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Oh well, it all shows that paul should learn not to follow his di*k in the future.
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Found this on the net on a The Sun newspaper website (OK, I know it's the Sun!):
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/linda%20co-writer%20unimpressed%20by%20mccartney_1012242
LINDA CO-WRITER UNIMPRESSED BY McCARTNEY
LATEST: SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY is cold and has "dead eyes" according to the owner of audio tapes recorded by the former BEATLE's late wife LINDA. PETER COX co-wrote the book LINDA MCCARTNEY'S HOME COOKING in 1989 and spent many days at the couple's English country estate where he recorded 20 hours of Linda discussing her ideas and life. According to British newspaper the Daily Mirror, the tapes contain intimate details of Linda's marriage to MCCartney which the former BEATLE wants kept out of the public domain in light of his bitter divorce battle with HEATHER MILLS. Cox was shaken by his first meeting with the LET IT BE star and never warmed to him. He says, "Paul and I went for a walk around the garden. It was all very strange. He said to me, 'If I gave you a million pounds would you eat a hamburger?' "I said no and he accused me of lying. What does that say about him - that he thinks everyone has a price? There was always this question mark with Paul, as if he was constantly thinking, 'What do you want from me? I am Paul MCCartney and you want something from me and I'm going to find out what it is.' "That attitude was always there and I found it most depressing. I didn't warm to Paul. There was an awful coldness about him. His eyes were deader than any I had ever seen." Cox has assured MCCartney's lawyers that he will not divulge the contents of the tapes.
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methinks he had the hots for Linda and was jealous of Paul.
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Heather Mills Reportedly Claims McCartney Abused First Wife
9 Days Ago - October 23, 2006 by exposay.com
Featuring Heather Mills and Paul McCartney
The divorce plot just thickens and thickens with more claims of abuse. Heather Mills has now reportedly claimed Paul McCartney used to hit his first wife Linda.
The ex-model intends to ask the former Beatles' staff to testify in court that he was violent to her during their marriage, and claims they saw him treat Linda the same way.
A source told Britain's Mail on Sunday newspaper, "She told me that he did to Linda what he did to her that Linda had also suffered abuse. She told me that staff of Paul's told her that Linda had also suffered abuse."
However, Sir Paul's former publicity man Geoff Baker struck back, saying, "It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. Everyone knows that Paul and Linda had one of the happiest marriages in showbiz."
The claims follow the publication of divorce court papers which were leaked last week, alleging Paul was abusive to Heather during their marriage. But it has also been claimed that it was in fact Heather who was violent, and once threw a bottle of tomato ketchup at Paul's head in September 2003.
A source told Britain's News of the World newspaper, "It was Heather who caused all the rows by constantly nagging Paul, and they turned violent. The housekeeper would have to come in and clean up afterwards. After the ketchup battle there were marks where a bottle of ketchup had been thrown and landed just behind where Paul usually sits. It must have just missed him."
Geoff was FIRED by Paul and he's still sticking up for him. Now you KNOW Heather is lying.
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Geoff was FIRED by Paul and he's still sticking up for him. Now you KNOW Heather is lying.
I can't agree with you Mairi. We don't know how well Geoff knew the intimate goings on of the McCartneys relationship nor his motives for speaking up.
We just don't know.
(the reason I'm trying to be so rational about this is that I spent a lot time belittling Michael Jackson fans for saying "of course" their man was innocent with no more basis in fact than what they knew as fans. Kharma prohibits me from doing the same for our Paul)
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Well, you may be right on that aspect, but then what does Heather know herself?
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Mairi's on a mission. Go for it, Mairi!
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What? LOL
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Well, you're on a mission to cut the last leg, aren't you? ;D
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hahahahaha!! I'm just expressing my opinion. You know I'm a pacifist.
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I will always admire Paul as a singer, songwriter, musician & performer, of course & I don't give a damn about his personal life. I believe Macca will survive this ordeal with his image slightly scarred, but will bounce back with a new album & one more major tour.
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It seems that Paul has bought The Linda Tapes for 200,000 BP. I heard a rumour he wants to release them as a bootleg though.
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It seems that Paul has bought The Linda Tapes for 200,000 BP. I heard a rumour he wants to release them as a bootleg though.
Good thing that it's impossible to copy tapes...
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It seems that Paul has bought The Linda Tapes for 200,000 BP. I heard a rumour he wants to release them as a bootleg though.
;D
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The first part is true.
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The Linda Tapes episode is truly bizarre. Why would this guy hold onto them after her death? Whose property were they in the first place?
It doesn't sound like the "evidence" in the tapes will have any bearing on a judicial settlement, it's just a way to try to embarrass Macca and force him to agree to Heather's terms.
How does she sleep?
And it also makes me wonder about Linda's judgment--who would record apparently intimate info about your husband and give them to some other guy to keep--to do with what he will?
Poor Macca. At least he seems to be taking the long view. 500 years from now (if there is a 500 years from now), people will still be humming "Yesterday" "Let it Be" "Blackbird" and dozens of other songs by some cat named McCartney and all the rest of these players won't even rate a footnote.
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Sir Paul plans TV first-strike
TV interviews: Paul and Heather McCartney will give their accounts of their turbulent break-up
Sir Paul McCartney is hoping to spike his wife's guns by getting in first with a TV interview about the breakdown of their marriage. Heather Mills, 38, has been offered £500,000 to appear in a Princess Diana-style ITV special and Sir Trevor McDonald is making strenuous efforts to persuade her to take part.
But aides of 64-year-old Sir Paul are understood to have been negotiating to do a 'spoiler' interview with the BBC to go out beforehand. Both specials are expected to be screened after the couple have finalised their divorce.
The interviews will bring back memories of November 1995 when Diana was interviewed by Martin Bashir for an hour-long Panorama special. During the programme - watched by 20 million - she revealed her adultery with her riding instructor James Hewitt and that Camilla Parker Bowles was the 'third person in her marriage' to Prince Charles.
'Sir Trevor has literally been calling Heather every day to sign her up,' said a source close to the couple. 'She has been proving very resistant, but now it's all but in the bag. 'This would be a very big catch for ITV and they are willing to pay out for it. The global syndication could make back a lot of that outlay. 'Heather appears to have a lot to say. Paul's camp have got wind of what is going on and they are trying to arrange a spoiler interview.
'Paul has always been adamant that the right way to deal with the divorce and all the accusations surrounding it is in the divorce courts. 'So he is planning a more dignified interview where he will brush over the detail and speak in more general terms about the sadness surrounding the marriage breakdown. He's taking the higher ground. Paul does not want to drag his loved ones through some TV battle, but at the same time he is not going to take any accusations lying down.'
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When either of these are on I intend to light a joint/pour a glass of wine, put my feet up and Revolver on the turntable and remember simpler times.
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Found this:
SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY will give his estranged wife HEATHER MILLS a $235 million (GBP120 million) divorce package to safeguard his health, according to a British newspaper. The News Of The World reports the former BEATLE was urged to agree the deal by his daughters STELLA and MARY because they are concerned the bitter divorce battle is affecting his well being. The siblings reportedly told their father, "If this goes on, it could kill you. Being happy is more important than money." The newspaper claims MCCartney will publicly give his estranged wife a mere $19.5 million (GBP10 million), most of which she'll donate to charity. But she'll actually secure an enormous secret package including $5.9 million (GBP3 million) a year as a divorce settlement, $15.7 million (GBP8 million) to buy homes in America and Europe, $5.9 million (GBP3 million) for English accommodation and more than $3.9 million (GBP2 million) a year for staff and general expenses for the next 15 years. One of MCCartney's aides tells the newspaper, "It's a done deal and Paul is relieved."
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Stella McCartney Trying to Find Dad Paul McCartney a New Woman
"After the split from his wife Heather Mills, Paul McCartney's been a lonely guy. Now his daughter, Stella McCartney, is trying to help him out in finding a girlfriend. Stella recently set her dad up with a friend of hers, with whom he apparently got along quite well with.
A source reveals that he really likes this woman that he met, but that he is very paranoid about getitng close to another woman. The situation with Heather Mills has more than ruffled his feathers.
According to the source, Paul is incredibly lonely right now, even asking a friend "What is the point of all my money and success now?"
The only thing that keep him going, says Paul, is his daughter Beatrice and his music. They are what hold him together. He never imagined that his child would grow up in an environment in which his parents were involved in a bitter divorce.
Paul fears that Heather is filling their daughter's head with thoughts against him, and saying inappropriate things about him to her. The source claims that Paul already has evidence of this.
While Paul is trying to hold things together, he is writing a letter to his daughter Beatrice about his split with Heather. He will set the letter to music, and allow her to read it one day if she wishes to. He is desperate to let his daughter know what really happened, and to hear his side of the story so that she will know that he never meant for her to suffer."
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Big haul for Paul
"Furious Paul McCartney has stripped ALL his homes of treasures to keep them away from Heather Mills.
Macca has ordered security staff to grab valuable artwork, antiques, heirlooms and personal items and hide them in a vault.
He acted after learning Heather, 38, had attempted to gain access to his houses in London's St John's Wood and Peasmarsh, Rye, East Sussex.
A pal said: "Paul thinks Heather is after the McCartney treasure chest. He has beaten her to it."
Earlier this week, Mills called police saying she had been locked out of the Sussex estate and that artwork had been stolen."
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over Christmas there was a lot to read in the English papers....
EXCLUSIVE: LOVE ME DOUGH
Heather demands FOUR homes in shock divorce 'shopping list' for Macca
HEATHER Mills is demanding FOUR of Sir Paul McCartney's homes in an amazing divorce shopping list.
She has told her lawyers she wants the properties - in London, Sussex, Los Angeles and New York.
And her list also details her plans for a jetset life with their three-year-old daughter Beatrice - and includes cars, clothes, holidays, bodyguards, a private jet and helicopter rides.
Heather, 38, also wants an annual allowance - because she claims the high-profile marriage and split wrecked her career.
And she is demanding a oneoff lump sum - believed to be £50million - as "back payment" because she says she was unable to get work while they were together.
But sources believe she is using the wish list as a bargaining tool and is likely to settle for much less.
A source close to Macca said Heather was "living in dream land. Paul will be mildly irritated or even amused rather than seriously worried or upset."
Last week the Sunday Mirror revealed that Macca had vowed not to pay Heather "a single penny" and that any settlement would be solely for Beatrice.
He says he owes Heather nothing because he made nothing during the marriage. In fact, he claims that the huge cost of his world tours meant he actually made a loss while they were together.
He also claims that he is only worth £300million - not the £1billion that has been widely reported. A source told the Sunday Mirror: "Heather was reeling from Paul's counter-claims. She's drawn up a list of exactly what she will need to carry on in the lifestyle she's used to."
Heather's demands could total up to £200million. If Heather got what she wanted it would be the biggest ever divorce pay-out in British legal history - after just four years of marriage.
Macca, 64, is known to have built up a substantial property portfolio over the years and as part of her shopping list, Heather wants him to hand over the £4million home they used to share in St John's Wood, North West London.
Heather was humiliatingly barred from the mansion when she arrived with her daughter Beatrice in August and found all the locks changed.
She also wants Macca's £6million home in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles, as well as his apartment in Manhattan, New York, worth around £5million.
And she wants a property on his 950-acre Peasmarsh estate in Sussex, where she loved to stay in a £1.5million log cabin. Macca has been ordered to pull it down by planners but is appealing against their decision.
Heather says she already owns her lavish seafront home in Brighton, close to where her sister Fiona lives because Macca bought it for her as a present.
Macca's lawyers will try to prove he doesn't owe Heather anything because he did not amass any of his vast fortune during their marriage.
But she thinks he should pay her for the time they were together because she says he ruined her chances of earning her own money.
Heather claims that she has been left with no savings because she was unable to get work while they were a couple. A source said:
Throughout the marriage Heather told her friends and people she worked with that nothing good has come out of marrying Paul.
"She says before she met him she used to earn lots of money, but being with him destroyed her earning potential.
"She kept going on about how all the television companies wanted her before she met Paul but, because of him, no one would give her any work unless she could bring him as well.
"The truth is, she didn't earn a lot before. Her television work was minimal and as a 'reporter' she earned no more than £1,000 per show.
"She earned a bit more for the American work she did, but she never would have got that had she not been married to Paul.
"She also said that money used to pour in for her charities, but because of all the negative publicity, donations went right down and she had to fund all the work herself - resulting in her losing money." The source added:
THE truth is that Paul gave her all the money she needed for her charity work.
"Now Paul will try playing her at her own game and show that he lost money too while he was with her."
Another source close to Macca said last night: "Heather is living in dream land. She hardly earned millions before they got together. If anything, her profile and therefore earning potential escalated after she met Paul.
"Paul has spent years building up his property portfolio and he's not going to be giving up any homes he owns without a fight.
"But he'll never let Beatrice go without. That has and never will be an issue."
After their split in May, Heather and Macca insisted they would remain friends and blamed the media for their break-up. But now they can't stand each other.
In Heather's divorce petition, she claimed she was physically and verbally abused by Macca.
His lawyers dismissed the claims which left her furious and even more determined to push on.
WHAT SHE WANTS
Four homes... £4m mansion in St John's Wood, London' £6m home in Beverly Hills' £5m apartment and offices in New York' a property on Macca's estate in Sussex where he has £1.5m log cabin
Maintenance staff, housekeepers and gardeners for all the homes
A nanny until Beatrice is 18
Two helicopter rides per week
Access to a private plane
Round-the-clock Bodyguards for her and Beatrice
Cars for each home (to be replaced every two years)
Annual holidays for her and Beatrice
Replacement electrical and computer goods every two years
A clothing allowance for her and Beatrice
Private schooling for Beatrice
Child maintenance
Entertainment allowance
Grocery and fuel allowance
Private healthcare for her and Beatrice
Annual allowance
£50m lump sum
source (http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/archive/archive/tm_method=full%26objectid=18355618%26siteid=62484-name_page.html)
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i actually hate her...thanks kate
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Yeah, I read that "shopping list" in the paper on Sunday - she must be rubbing her hands together!!
I wonder what first attracted Heather to the multi-millionaire!!!
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I wonder what first attracted Heather to the multi-millionaire!!!
Ehm. His legs?
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She'll be after them next
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Ha ha!!! ;D
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hope she gets what she deserves...and I don't mean this in a nice sort of way :X
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She'll be after them next
Well, one of them anyway ;D
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Yeah, thank's Kate :) ... she's somewhat crazy ::) ...
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Heather complains
One of the most photographed women of the moment has complained to police after being followed by photographers in Rye. Heather Mills-McCartney spoke to Police Community Support Officers in Rye on Friday, claiming she was being followed.
Mrs Mills-McCartney, currently divorcing musician husband Paul McCartney, was outside the Hilden Health Club, in New Winchelsea Road, when she made the complaint.
Mrs Mills-McCartney's personal trainer Ben Amigoni, who works at the club, was not with her when she spoke to police.
The two photographers, one from Bromley and one from Sandgate, had their press cards checked by police but no arrests were made.
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Tho things began in a different way ...
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.. how they end is what matters!
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^Ick. Especially that first one. :P
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Theyre all disgusting pictures of her.
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^Ick. Especially that first one. :P
I thought they were laughable ...
Theyre all disgusting pictures of her.
But remember that only one of the legs is hers ... she only owns the other! 8)
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All those pics are pretty creepy. But the middle is the worst for me. There's something awkward and offbalanced about their position--an omen of the future? Also Paul seems to be wearing some serious lifts. Look at the heels on those shoes!
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They were drunken, that's all! ;D
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There's something awkward and offbalanced about their position--an omen of the future?
You're saying that some people (apart from pro's) actually look good when they're dancing? ;)
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Paul's hands look deformed or devilish in the first pic. Notice how he's doing the devil/rock-and-roll sign with his left (i.e., sinister) hand.
And notice the obvious lust in his eyes.
It seems clear that he was overcome by the Devil when he met Heather.
Another clue: Those high heels and her exposed feet make her look cloven-hoofed.
[Cue "Exorcist" theme.]
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Strange. Heather demands 10,000 pounds a day! Heather Mills is always going on about charities and people dying and starving and she claims she needs 3.5 million a year just to live on.
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Is it true that Heather is going to be in the American version of Dancing With The Stars?
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^Yes. At least that's what I keep hearing on the radio. Pretty weird.
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Doin it for the Money, that's what she wants................ :P
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SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY and estranged wife HEATHER MILLS are still friends and the former BEATLE sent a bouquet of flowers to mark the former model's debut on US reality TV show DANCING WITH THE STARS. Despite media reports of a bitter battle between the pair - who split last year (06) after four years of marriage - Mills insists relations between her and MCCartney are amicable, and blames the rocker's lawyers for dragging out their divorce. She told talk show host LARRY KING last night (20MAR07) about MCCartney's gift: "It was nice. "There was a card that read, 'Dear Mummy, love Daddy and BEATRICE.' "We still have a friendship, it's just the lawyers who are nasty. Not on my side, but on his side. There's one woman. "The lawyer, FIONA SHACKLETON, wants to drag it out to fill her pockets. She has said some mean things. She wants to make it as difficult as possible." She adds of her split from MCCartney, "I still love him. He's the father of my child. But you can love someone and not be right for each other and have to move on. "It's like a death. You marry someone because you are madly in love. We had a beautiful child after I'd had ectopic pregnancies and a miscarriage. "We were together for seven years. We tried and tried and tried. But sometimes you have to say, 'It's not working.'"
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I completely agree that some attorneys deliberately draw out a case and escalate tensions for personal gain. Personal experience is talking here. :-/
However, it does not explain some of the nasty things I've also been seeing in the press-- the McFartney cartoon, etc. You're telling me the lawyer made this up? Or the media has been making this up, and we've all been deceived? It's hard to believe all of this is coming from one lawyer (out of a cast of tens, probably).
On the other hand, people get very, very angry in a divorce situation, even if they try to keep it amicable. I think it's part of the splitting-up process. Let's hope these things were all said in anger, but that anger is spent and they're both ready to move on. "Hope" being the operative word here.
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However, it does not explain some of the nasty things I've also been seeing in the press-- the McFartney cartoon, etc. You're telling me the lawyer made this up? Or the media has been making this up, and we've all been deceived? It's hard to believe all of this is coming from one lawyer (out of a cast of tens, probably).
I was quoting the newspapers.
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Oh, yes, I realized that! I just wondered if anyone wanted to discuss this article-- this part did not seem very credible to me.
Mills insists relations between her and MCCartney are amicable, and blames the rocker's lawyers for dragging out their divorce
Hugs, buddy! :)
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It'all good. :)
Don't know about that part either. Bad feelings temper when people haven't seen each other for a longer period. Look at the Beatles...
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All this talk in the press i tend to ignore and not believe.
Why would a guy who sang about love all his life suddenly harm his
wife in such horrible circumstances.
I from the beggining when they got married felt joy for Macca and his happinss.
but i personally think the age diffrence caught up with them! Heather is a very active person
who i think wants so much in life (money maybe!) but Macca wants to slow down a bit
even though he loves still going out touring.
I was speaking to a fan-friend not long back who met Macca just a few years before
Linda's death and he said how much 'complete rubbish' it is that Macca would harm anyone,
after what i read about some tapes of Linda apparently claiming she was abused.
Heather is a very tough person who wants her own way i feel.
It is tough for Macca in the position that he is in to have a proper relationship because
of his fame. the press are always sniffing around. Give Macca a break!!!
the press should take notes on George's 1976 solo song
"See Yourslf":
It's easier to critisize somebody else, than to see yourself"!
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Nice post, Andy. I'm also inclined to give Paul the benefit of the doubt. I can see him browbeating someone, but not beating them. Nothing in his history suggests that he would.
I believe the Linda tapes (and forgive me if I have this wrong) were about Paul basically being too controlling in her life. That is a situation that certainly fit with some of the reasons behind the Beatles' break-up and some Wings people leaving, too. There is evidence that Paul had very strong opinions on how he wanted things to be. This makes him a challenge to live with, not a wife beater. That's a whole other animal. I'm not saying that someone can't be psychologically abused, but I think "abuse" is a loaded term and we have to be careful how we use it. ("we" including the media in this case.)
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Yeah, i do do see it from your point of view Harihead.
Maybe it was a bit too much when Linda joined Wings and going out
with him touring in the late 80's/early 90's. Paul did confess he was a
bit too controlling when Linda was trying to concentrate on her photography
& cooking. But Linda did say she enjoyed the tours etc. I think if anything bad
happened maybe some of the wings members would have spoke up.
I also think John was a bit too controlling on Yoko (maybe). i think when Yoko
had a break-up period with him in 73 (?), John was relying on her too much, so she
needed a break.
I think Macca felt quite lonely after Linda died & needed to be with someone
& found Heather. I do think he jumped into conclusions a bit too quick with the
marriage etc.
He has always been my favourite of the four and i always prefered his
solo records the best. but i can say 'with hand on heart', he is not a bad
person!
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From The Times
Can
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I know Paul said he was planning on touring next year, but the divorce seems to have went up a notch I believe & I don't expect him to tour until 09 to be honest.
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lined up top legal teams, using the same lawyers who acted against each other in the divorce of the Prince of Wales and Diana, the Princess of Wales.
Good grief. I'm so glad I'm not famous.
The database isn't printing the characters properly, but I think they're saying Mills might get 25 million? Tough times! Gosh, I hope she would be able to support the kid on that. ::)
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Good grief. I'm so glad I'm not famous.
The database isn't printing the characters properly, but I think they're saying Mills might get 25 million? Tough times! Gosh, I hope she would be able to support the kid on that. ::)
It's going to be tough, isn't it?
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the only way i would believe that there was drug and alcohol abuse in the marriage is if Heather was doing it.... and if anybody would believe that Paul could do something...they have a lot more problems in there own life..... then paul has in his....
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The database isn't printing the characters properly, but I think they're saying Mills might get 25 million? Tough times! Gosh, I hope she would be able to support the kid on that. ::)
No, I don't think she could. Gosh, harihead, just the thought. ;D
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the only way i would believe that there was drug and alcohol abuse in the marriage is if Heather was doing it.... and if anybody would believe that Paul could do something...they have a lot more problems in there own life..... then paul has in his....
I'm sorry - but I don't know how you are able to presume to know Macca's personality or how he conducts himself behind closed doors. Because you've listened to some of his music and read a few fan books? This is like Michael Jackson fans saying he was innocent because, um, he's Michael Jackson.
The truth is we don't know. And there's nothing written in the stars that says Beatles must be all round good guys. Ask Cynthia.
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I'm sorry - but I don't know how you are able to presume to know Macca's personality or how he conducts himself behind closed doors. Because you've listened to some of his music and read a few fan books? This is like Michael Jackson fans saying he was innocent because, um, he's Michael Jackson.
The truth is we don't know. And there's nothing written in the stars that says Beatles must be all round good guys. Ask Cynthia.
It's true. Just because they are Beatles they must be good guys. That's what people have always thought, since they were 'loveable' moptops. And The Stones were The Antichrist. Whereas in reality The Beatles were at least as bad, if not worse than The Stones. I imagine at one time they revelled in the fact that they could do virtually anything - take LSD, hash, 3 in a bed sex romp thingies - and still be adored by mothers and housewife's alike.
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Paul McCartney is a bad person. But at the same time I'm assuming that he's also human, and could just as likely be a lying, cheating, womanising, anti semitic with a drink problem, and a healthy appetite for little boys. (not my opinion, of course ;D)
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a healthy appetite for little boys
You describe it in such lovely words... ugh (afraid2) (shakehead1)
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You describe it in such lovely words... ugh (afraid2) (shakehead1)
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Well, I wasn't being totally serious. Just trying to make a point.
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Yeah I know- point has been made :P
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" Their's no fool like an old fool " ,thats what my mum had to say about Paul ,and i find myself agreeing with her :P
For some years now ive thought Paul might be quite a difficulte person to be around , and as much as i love him ,ive not been fooled by them puppy dog eyes for a long time .
I see a lot of Paul in Stella it's the way they look sometimes that stubborn face, which they both have .
DaveRam :)
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What I meant...before this turns ugly....
Paul may be stubborn and not the easiest person to be around...but I highly doubt...that he's abusive in any way...
Was there any signs of abuse when he was married to Linda? So he just decided to become abusive with Heather...right?
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What I meant...before this turns ugly....
Paul may be stubborn and not the easiest person to be around...but I highly doubt...that he's abusive in any way...
Was there any signs of abuse when he was married to Linda? So he just decided to become abusive with Heather...right?
I tend to agree abusive people tend to have a history , Paul should have said he'd sufferd Elder Abuse from Heather ;D
DaveRam ;)
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I tend to agree abusive people tend to have a history , Paul should have said he'd sufferd Elder Abuse from Heather ;D
LOL ;D
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I don't believe that paul is abusive in any way but i kind of
agree that he can be pushy & a bit of an a** at times ;D
Thinking of when Linda joined the band, it might of been too
much for her but he wanted her there. I'm sure it was great fun
for Linda throughout Wings career but a fight when Wings started
in 71. and he was being quite annoying to the other beatles
on the twickenham sessions. i can see John at times on the edge
of punching him! ;D :P :P
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These lines come to mind in this thread....
I used to be cruel to my woman
I beat her and kept her from the
Things that she loved
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These lines come to mind in this thread....
I used to be cruel to my woman
I beat her and kept her from the
Things that she loved
But that was a John lyric, if my memory (almost full) serves me right! ;D
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Man I was mean but I'm changing my scene
And I'm doing the best that I can
I believe it was a Paul song, he sang lead.
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Man I was mean but I'm changing my scene
And I'm doing the best that I can
I believe it was a Paul song, he sang lead.
True, but I believe this contribution was John's.
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^ Aye, but what! Think: Why John wrote these lyrics (what influenced him)? Was Paul influenced by them? Were they actually McCartney lyrics yet we are all told they are Lennon? I must admit I'm being silly...
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I guess John had the experience on this part.
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LAME ARGUMENTS. If Paul had been abusive to Linda we would have heard about it. The man is Paul McCartney, for pete's sake! He can't go to the bathroom without everyone hearing about it.
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I agree.....we would have heard about it...now that there getting divorced it comes out all of a sudden....
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LAME ARGUMENTS. If Paul had been abusive to Linda we would have heard about it. The man is Paul McCartney, for pete's sake! He can't go to the bathroom without everyone hearing about it.
I don't think that's true. How do we know how they behaved alone? They lived a lot out of the public gaze - wasn't like they were party animals going out and getting snapped people. All we really know about pre-divorce McCartney is what he wanted us to know. And it's not as if the allegations involve him beating her black and blue.
It's a bit scary that you guys make such presumptions of innocence and assume to know so much about someone. And are so ready to proclaim her as some kind of lying fantasist. Women have been trying to battle against these prejudices for generations now.
The answer is we don't know.
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LAME ARGUMENTS. If Paul had been abusive to Linda we would have heard about it. The man is Paul McCartney, for pete's sake! He can't go to the bathroom without everyone hearing about it.
How would we have heard about it? Do you know if the guy 6 doors down from you is abusive to his wife? No, because she wouldn't go out until the swelling went down. Or very likely he beat her somewhere that wasn't visable. Very often women who are abused by their husband's don't tell a soul. Even their family's don't know. They won't leave and they won't report them.
I'm not saying that's the case here, but you can't make assumptions.
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Okay, you have a point, actually. I'm just saying that people who say "Well he might have been an abuser because you can't prove that it's not true" is the same as saying "Crumple-Horned Snorkacks exist because you can't prove that it's not true."
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is the same as saying "Crumple-Horned Snorkacks exist because you can't prove that it's not true."
And you're telling me that they don't? :(
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Im sure i read in the UK press the night before they got married that they were reported to be fighting like cats and dogs and wedding rings were been thrown out of windows , have i rememberd this right ?
DaveRam :)
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still think Heather abused him... :-/
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Well working as a social worker Andy for the elderly i see financial abuse of all the time and it's often a family member grabbing the cash ;D
DaveRam :)
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Well working as a social worker Andy for the elderly i see financial abuse of all the time and it's often a family member grabbing the cash ;D
That's too funny :D
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Macca: Give it 4 years and we'll see eh!! :P
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still think Heather abused him... :-/
Me too. I never really liked her, specially compared to the Lovely Linda. Paul-Linda was the most beautiful marriage ever.
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im sorry i just cant see it, im pretty sure if he ever raised a hand to her, she would have belted him, she doesnt come across as the sit and take kind of person, shes in her 30s hes in his 60s goin on 70, she would kick the crap out of him.
this avatar sums it up for me. Run paul Run
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LOL!!! (http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/4347/2bj1zr.gif)
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:P
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That's great Andy! ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMxthbkC_Nc&mode=related&search= ;D ;D
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Great Pasta Cheif! i have seen this on YouTube some while ago though.
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Mills: 'I've Had Worse Press Than A Paedophile'
Heather Mills has launched a fierce attack on the press, comparing her treatment at the hands of the media with that of Kate McCann and Princess Diana.
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Sir Paul McCartney's estranged wife said she had been "close to suicide" over the coverage she received.
The 39-year-old is locked in a bitter divorce battle with the former Beatle. The couple have a four-year-old daughter, Beatrice.
Ms Mills-McCartney launched her attack on the nation's press in a television interview, saying she had been "close to suicide" and had received death threats.
Speaking on GMTV, she accused a "certain corner" of feeding spin to the media to smear her - and called on the public to stop buying tabloid newspapers.
At one point she appeared to break down, later apologising for becoming upset and saying: "What are we doing as a nation buying these newspapers?
"We need to force a change as a responsible nation."
She said she had launched a petition at the European Parliament to strengthen the law against "a specific portion" of the media.
Tearfully she added: "They make up such lies. They've called me a whore, a golddigger, a fantasist, a liar, the most unbelievably hurtful things - and I've stayed quiet for my daughter.
"But my daughter. We've had death threats, I've been close to suicide. I'm so upset about this. I've had worse press than a paedophile or a murderer, and I've done nothing but charity for 20 years."
She refuted suggestions that she had "used the press", answering: "I haven't used the press for anything but my charity."
She went on: "Look what they're doing to the McCanns. The woman has lost, and the poor father, have lost their daughter. What are we doing as a nation?
"What are we doing persecuting a woman that is devastated behind closed doors and trying to hold it together, as I have for 18 months."
Mills also likened herself to Diana, Princess of Wales, saying they had both been hounded by the media.
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Quite what she expects is beyond me. She's done nothing but mouth off, and court the press ever since the split. This is a classic example of someone wanting to have their cake and eat it! Macca has been pretty stupid too. He should have settled with her a long time ago; cut his losses.
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Mills is right about the press: I consider her a golddigger, based on what I read. Is she really darling and nice? She might be, but I haven't seen it. I've seen anger and spite that spews out of almost everyone when they're divorcing. I've seen wanting to "get even" for real or imagined transgressions. It all comes with the territory, and is not particularly newsworthy to me. If it weren't for these forums, I'd never read anything about it.
I was about to blast you, Paul, for your comment about Macca being stupid. It's a divorce; no one is smart during a divorce, and they need their time to work through their issues. But then I thought, well, this is Macca we're talking about, and he has a driving need to win. So it could be that his drive to win has led him to stretch this out longer than necessary, because there's no way he's going to let that (I'll use my favorite term) "golddigger" get away with her huge settlement. No way! He'll fight it!
I consulted a very wise attorney during my divorce. He was the expensive one, my fallback in case I needed to pull out the big guns. It turned out I didn't need him; my husband became rational and we settled quite easily once the dust settled. Anyway, this guy said to me, "Stop worrying about who gets what. You're both going to get a lot more stuff. What you need to take care of now is your emotional health." It was the most liberating thing to hear, because most of the sticking points in a divorce revolve around dividing things up. If you walk away, you can get on with it. But until that point, you're still mired.
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I was about to blast you, Paul, for your comment about Macca being stupid. It's a divorce; no one is smart during a divorce, and they need their time to work through their issues. But then I thought, well, this is Macca we're talking about, and he has a driving need to win. So it could be that his drive to win has led him to stretch this out longer than necessary, because there's no way he's going to let that (I'll use my favorite term) "golddigger" get away with her huge settlement. No way! He'll fight it!
I consulted a very wise attorney during my divorce. He was the expensive one, my fallback in case I needed to pull out the big guns. It turned out I didn't need him; my husband became rational and we settled quite easily once the dust settled. Anyway, this guy said to me, "Stop worrying about who gets what. You're both going to get a lot more stuff. What you need to take care of now is your emotional health." It was the most liberating thing to hear, because most of the sticking points in a divorce revolve around dividing things up. If you walk away, you can get on with it. But until that point, you're still mired.
He should have realised that she wouldn't go quietly. And I expect his laywers would have told him to settle quickly. I have little sympathy.
She has deliberately courted the British Press, knowing full well what they are like. It of course means that she can justify her 'woe is me' persona, when they go too far. It's a game she's playing very well.
I was pretty lucky with my last divorce. We had no problems dividing possessions. If their was something we both wanted we tossed a coin for it! My problems started later. But that's another story!
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I expect his laywers would have told him to settle quickly.
You're quite right. If I got this advice, I'm sure Macca did as well. We're back to that need to win, which I think is Paul's peculiar manifestation of aging.
She has deliberately courted the British Press, knowing full well what they are like. It of course means that she can justify her 'woe is me' persona, when they go too far. It's a game she's playing very well.
I agree she's playing the game well, but will anyone believe the 'woe is me' bit? Granted, people's memories are appallingly short, but this is "entertainment" so they might remember some of her earlier salvos.
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Me too. I never really liked her, specially compared to the Lovely Linda. Paul-Linda was the most beautiful marriage ever.
i agree 100%
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Smart move by Paul:
Sir Paul McCartney is set to apply for full custody of his daughter with estranged wife Heather Mills.
The Beatles legend - who split from Heather in May 2006 after a four-year marriage - is said to be worried about four-year-old Beatrice after Heather sensationally claimed Paul has done nothing to protect them from death threats in a series of TV interviews.
A source said: "Paul fears Heather has lost the plot and needs help. She claimed to the world her life was at risk and he is understandably concerned about the safety of his daughter.
"Going for full custody is a last resort but he is really scared for his child. He doesn't feel he has a choice. He also is worried about her being psychologically damaged by their increasingly public divorce."
Paul allegedly contacted his lawyers on Friday (02.11.07) to prepare his case for full custody, after a heated meeting with Heather.
The musician was reportedly outraged when Heather, 39, demanded he hand over his beloved £12 million Peasmarsh estate in their divorce settlement because it has a state-of-the-art security system.
He was also said to be saddened by the former model's threats to "tell the world the truth" about their failed marriage.
Last week, Heather claimed she was suicidal, likened herself to the late Princess Diana, blamed Paul for the breakdown of their marriage, said he refused to give her a "quick and gentle" divorce and branded his daughter Stella "evil".
Paul, 65, fears Heather has turned Beatrice against her fashion designer sister, after she hid when Stella visited recently.
The source added: "Beatrice called Stella, 'That bad woman,' and told Paul, 'Mummy is so sad.' "
Meanwhile, Heather claims she has secret recordings of Paul and Stella mocking her false limb.
Heather, who lost her left leg below the knee following a motorbike accident in 1993, reportedly played the tape to Paul and threatened to reveal other taped conversations unless he agrees he was to blame for the failure of their marriage.
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Is she blackmailing him? this woman needs serious help! :-/
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Yep, that's blackmail! Ain't she sweet?
Nearly everyone is a retard during a divorce. Mills is certainly upholding the viciousness principle which is such a charming feature of disentagling one's life from a future former. Next time, Paul, listen to your kids!
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I don't know how he's going to find anyone to fill her shoe.
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I heard on the radio that after Paul saw ALL the stupid interviews his lunatic ex has been doing he decided he would sue her for full custody of his kid. Is this true? Anyone else hear this? I can't find any confirmation. She's been on every damn show possible this month. She's really digging herself into a hole. Moron. I'm listening to her right now during various interviews. She's really lost it.
The guy on the radio who was playing the interviews funny. When he heard her say all the Beatles wives get bad press he goes: Barbara Bach is married to Ringo, never got bad press. George Harrison's wife never got bad press. Pattie Boyd who ran off with Clapton never got bad press! Maybe it's just you and Yoko!
He forgot about Linda I guess. They always gave her a hard time didn't they?
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From The News Of The World. (Bear in mind that this is not exactly what you'd call a 'quality' newspaper)
POP legend Paul McCartney is applying for FULL CUSTODY of his four-year-old daughter Beatrice after estranged wife Heather
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He forgot about Linda I guess. They always gave her a hard time didn't they?
As far as I remember, only as a "musician." Linda always seemed strangely in the background, and I don't remember her speaking out much. Wierd. Maybe she was withdrawn and insecure after all the abuse domineering cold-heartred Paul alledgedly gave her.
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I think Linda was very shy. I remember an impromptu interview with Paul just before they got married, and she could barely say one word. I think she probably only agreed to be in Wings so that the family would be together.
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I think Linda was very shy. I remember an impromptu interview with Paul just before they got married, and she could barely say one word. I think she probably only agreed to be in Wings so that the family would be together.
I know she was brutalised into submission. I have this great insight into her private life because I've eaten some of her sausages and read one of her books. :)
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I know she was brutalised into submission. I have this great insight into her private life because I've eaten some of her sausages and read one of her books. :)
There you're one up on me. I've never tasted the sausages. Didn't she get into trouble because they contained animal renate?
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I confess neither have I. I can't see the point in meat substitutes. You're probably right about the shy bit. I'm just still astounded that others presume to know how Paul behaves in private based on what they know of him as fans of his music. Like eating her sausages gives me some insight into Linda's life. It's a dangerous way to think.
Maybe the likes of Linda and Maureen stayed out of the light because they played good wivseys and kept quietly in the background.
Heathers rants are strange, but she has been demonised by the UK press, and I think the dam burst.
Personally I refuse to take part in this demonisation process just because she's a bit gobby and married an icon. How do we know her allegations aren't true? Is this some throwback to the witch burning thing? Paula Yates went through this when she split with Saint Bob. People just couldn't seperate his public/private life.
Maybe she should have stayed submissive and hidden like the others.
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This is priceless. Great headline from The Sun.
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Full 'story' here: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article430262.ece
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LEAVE MACCA ALONE, GIVE HIM PEACE!!!! >:(
But Heather is so stupid coming out with stuff on interviews
when the divorce is happening now! At least Macca's got dignity
& not spread his dirty washing out!
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It's certainly ugly enough to be entertaining, eh?
:)
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Funny this... My Sister's Godmother lost her leg in a car accident about ten years ago and knows Heather Mills vaguely. Everyone's connected.
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Now I've heard she's p*ssed at him for not telling her that he was dating this new woman. I forget her name. But what right is it of hers to be angry? Their marriage is over! But then, it may not be true. I don't know what to believe.
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Back to Heather. Now I've heard she's p*ssed at him for not telling her that he was dating this new woman. I forget her name. But what right is it of hers to be angry? Their marriage is over! But then, it may not be true. I don't know what to believe.
It's none of her business what he does. At least he doesn't go on national TV to tel everyone!
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Part of the discussion on Yanks etcetera has been moved here: http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-conversations/m-1194390050/
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good, it was getting a little bit... well, y'know! ;D :)
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good, it was getting a little bit... well, y'know! ;D :)
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Actual newspaper headline: 'Heather Hopping Mad'
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Someone had to step into her shoe.
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This whole ordeal just goes to show that you should listen to your children when they tell you that someone you're dating is bonkers.
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That was my point too, Mairi. Glad we agree. :)
Paul is a strong-willed person. But if he's really shaken by this, perhaps he'll learn something-- that he isn't indestructible, perhaps, and that having people around you who really love you is a gift that should never be taken lightly. I honestly don't know much about his personal life, but if this ordeal brings Paul closer to his kids, that can only be a good thing. (I'm a sap when it comes to families getting closer.)
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I think Paul has always had a close relationship with his kids. He always seemed like he wanted to be with them growing up and they do seem very supportive of him.
The latest rumor going on about Stella.
Did Stella Make Fun of Heather with One-Legged Pendant?
Posted by ExtraTV Staff on November 6, 2007 9:30 AM
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A new report says Paul McCartney
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good, it was getting a little bit... well, y'know! ;D :)
Yeah, but at least we got a nice new thread out of it. That's why I've always loved this place. People actually discuss things in a rational way. Just sometimes it starts out in the wrong place. Anyway, sorry to all annoyed that the thread got so off topic. :B
Back to topic. Will the people from England pleeeaaasseee keep posting those headlines!! They are so funny. I just read one concerning him and this new woman. The headline was TRYST AND SHOUT! I mean, come one. These are great. Please share them with us! The only newspaper I can think of that does headlines like that over here is the New York Post and I don't live in NY anymore.
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LMAO @ "Tryst and Shout".
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Last week, Paul and Heather
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Paul McCartney offers Heather a $14m divorce settlement
Sir Paul McCartney has reportedly cut his divorce offer to estranged wife Heather Mills to just $14 million following her recent, now infamous rants on UK & US television.
65-year-old Paul slashed a whopping $86 million off his original settlement offer of a reported $100 million.
According Britain's News Of The World Newspaper, Paul convinced that Heather, dubbed Mucca due to her porn past - has dramatically weakened her position, thanks to her recent TV outbursts, in which she blamed him for their split.
Paul's latest settlement offer comes just weeks after the former Beatle gave her a reduced $46 million now-or-never ultimatum.
But 39-year-old Heather, a former animal rights activist, who claims that she's now suffering panic attacks, is planning to hit back by selling bombshell tapes on their turbulent five-year marriage.
A source said: "The war between them has just gone to a new level. Paul knows she will go all out to damage his reputation."
Last week it was revealed that Heather has a secret box of evidence which includes a claim Paul branded her a 'one-legged b****', raged at her and used Viagra to pep up their sex life.
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Excellent! Heathen's got a blog!!! ;D ;D ;D
http://heathermillsmccartney.blogspot.com/2007/11/countess-michele-elyzabeth-celebrity.html
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Heather complained that Stella gave her just ten percent discount.
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What price a one legged trouser suit?
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Heather complained that Stella gave her just ten percent discount.
not enough for her eh? ;D
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Last week it was revealed that Heather has a secret box of evidence which includes a claim Paul branded her a 'one-legged b****', raged at her and used Viagra to pep up their sex life.
WHO CARES?!?!
Married people never argue or call each other names. Married people never use *gasp* Viagra. I think all this anguish is worth at least $86 million, don't you? *goes off to find a wealthy old man*
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I am surprised that Stella hasn't knocked the crap out of Heather yet.
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I am surprised that Stella hasn't knocked the crap out of Heather yet.
Now, I look forward to that on YouTube!
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The latest:
McCartney's Estranged Wife Berates Rich
DUBLIN, Ireland, Thu Nov 22, 12:25 AM
Heather Mills McCartney, who is reportedly seeking millions of dollars in her breakup with Paul McCartney, denounced the world's rich as misers and snobs Wednesday.
Mills McCartney delivered the critical comments during her 90-minute speech to the debating society of Trinity College Dublin.
Former model Mills McCartney, 39, married the 65-year-old music legend in 2002 and gave birth to the couple's only child, Beatrice, a year later. But the couple separated last year, and McCartney filed for divorce alleging "unreasonable behavior" by his wife.
Mills McCartney said she was reluctantly obliged to befriend the world's wealthy because that was the only way to maximize her power as an agent for change.
"Sadly, you have to mix at a certain level of people to raise the level of funds you need to bring about the greater good," she said. "Because people are very snobby. These people who have lots of money, they're either snobby or they're stingy. If you have lots of money, you have to be stingy
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Looks like she had a plan to get her hands on a lot of cash all along then ? so much for love ;D
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she would kick the crap out of him.
ahem
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Man, I missed you guys!
Why doesn't this "woman" just go away!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (angry2)(angry2)(angry2)(chainsaw)(chainsaw) I just want to take her leg and whack it upside her head or stick it where the sun don't shine! (devil5)
I really feel sorry for Paul and Beatrice.
http://www.showbizspy.com/2007/12/16/heather-mills-paul-mccartney-wanted-me-dead/
She had no right to listen in on that! I don't know if Paul actually said it, but geez, lady, don't listen in or wiretap phone conversations.
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Man, I missed you guys!
How have you been? It's been a while. It's good to see you're back! :)
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Thanks. ;D
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Welcome back Paulsluv, I don't think we've met?
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Welcome back Paulsluv, I don't think we've met?
I was on before you were a moderator, BM. :)
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so, it's miss Mills 40th today, ..is anyone going to wish her there
wishes? :P
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What a nice present! ;D
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Not I, said the fly.
So John was shot by someone wanting to be famous, and Paul married someone wanting to be famous.
OK, so the boys are extremely rich and famous, but they've been though a helluvalot of pain!
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McCartney and Mills face off in court
LONDON (Reuters) - Paul McCartney and Heather Mills faced off in one of the biggest-ever showbiz divorce battles on Monday, with a slice of his massive Beatles fortune at stake.
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Mills, the 40-year-old former model whose marriage to the pop icon lasted less than four years, is representing herself in court after having sacked her lawyers.
The five-day case being held behind closed doors could end in Britain's biggest divorce settlement.
McCartney, 65, co-founder of the world's most famous pop group, is generally estimated to be worth some 825 million pounds.
Mills is believed to be asking for up to 50 million pounds from McCartney, who newspapers say is only ready to settle for half that sum.
The case could also set an important precedent in measuring just how much spouses can pitch for when short marriages fail -- McCartney's lawyers argue he made the bulk of his millions before he met Mills.
Mills, dressed in a grey suit and pink blouse, arrived first at the London court.
McCartney offered a cheery "Good Morning" to waiting reporters but did not reply when asked if there had been a last-minute out-of-court settlement.
Large "No Admittance" signs were on the court doors and its windows were covered to ensure privacy.
Their divorce, the most high-profile showbusiness split since Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman parted company, has turned into a battle for sympathy fought out under a media spotlight.
Mills' PR adviser quit when she decided to give a string of tearful television interviews to pitch her case, claiming remorseless media coverage had brought her to the brink of suicide.
McCartney married Mills in 2002, four years after his first wife Linda died of cancer and they have a daughter, Beatrice.
Their fate will be decided in an oak-panelled courtroom at the ornate Royal Courts of Justice -- with the judge expected to reserve his decision until a later date.
Any settlement may also be subject to a gagging order with all details of the final agreement remaining secret.
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This is getting very tiresome now. The only person that's getting hurt here is McCartney, and the rest of us that are going to be bombarded with it on the news all week.
Apparently a gagging order is pretty much a waste of time. If she goes for him in court, anything said has to remain confidential, so could not form any part of a book, otherwise she would be held in contempt, and possibly imprisoned!
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Paul to lawyer: Get her off my back
Paul McCartney is ready to offer estranged wife Heather Mills $60 million to "get her off my back."
The Beatles legend, who has been in London's High Court all week for his divorce battle with Mills, is said to have instructed his lawyer Fiona Shackleton to increase his original $20 million settlement offer.
A source told Britain's The Sun: "Paul was very irate and told his lawyer, 'Offer her [$60 million] and get her off my back.' His lawyer replied, 'We will have to see about that.'"
Mills instructed her minder to wheel a giant box of hate mail into the hearing yesterday.
The 40-year-old vegan -- who is representing herself in the settlement -- claims marrying McCartney, 65, ruined her life and she has become the victim of a vicious campaign by Beatles fans.
A source said: "She read out messages from before she wed Paul, which praised her charity work. Then she read out the hate mail sent after the split. She was determined to make an impact. She feels her reputation has been destroyed and she has been made to look like a villain. She believes the judge should take that into account when deciding how much money she is awarded."
you go Macca! get her off y'r back!! ;D
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A British judge will give the financial terms of Paul McCartney and Heather Mills' divorce settlement on March 17.
http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=303243>1=7702&silentchk=1&
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24.3 million GBP.
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What was the record again?
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A drop in the bucket. Go, Paul!
I enjoyed the following way too much:
The 40-year-old vegan -- who is representing herself in the settlement -- claims marrying McCartney, 65, ruined her life and she has become the victim of a vicious campaign by Beatles fans.
A source said: "She read out messages from before she wed Paul, which praised her charity work. Then she read out the hate mail sent after the split. She was determined to make an impact. She feels her reputation has been destroyed and she has been made to look like a villain. "
Well, she worked hard to make herself look like a villain, so it's nice to know her hard work wasn't in vain.
As Macca's offer was originally 20 million, I suppose the additional 4.3 mill was compensation for the "vicious campaign by Beatles fans". Go, us!
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The funny thing is that Heather was delighted with the outcome.
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Well, she worked hard to make herself look like a villain, so it's nice to know her hard work wasn't in vain.
I think her own lawyers left her because she wouldn't take their counsel, didn't they?
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I don't think it's a bad outcome for Paul who's only worth 400 million ? where as the other 400 million gone off shore i suspect ?.
I just watched Ms Mills on the High Court steps making a statement and yet again she did herself no favours the women is obnoxious .
She's done as well as Princess Diana did when you think about it and she supplied an heir to the throne .She wanted 125 million for 4 years work and she's says she's no Gold-Digger .
I'm just glad it's over let's hope Paul can move on now , and their daughter can grow-up in peace.
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Mills after the settlement:
''It was an incredible result in the end to secure mine and my daughter's future and that of all the charities that I obviously plan on helping and making a difference with -- because you know it has been my life for 20 years,'' she said.
''Obviously the court do not want a litigant in person to do well, it's against everything that they ever wish, so when they write the judgment up they're never going to make it look in favor.
''But all of you that have researched know that it was always going to be a figure between 20 and 30 million (pounds), Paul was offering a lot less than that, which you'll see in the judgment, and very much last minute to put me and Beatrice sadly through this ... incredibly sad.''
Hmmm... be glad you're done with all that, Paul.
Whole story here:http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-McCartney-Divorce.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=heather+mills&st=nyt&oref=slogin
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Steve Marinucci's all over this if anyone's interested:
http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/news/211finalshowdown.html
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Anyone looking for a new rich girlfriend ,please apply here (afraid5)(afraid1)(afraid5)(afraid1)(afraid5)
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What was the record again?
38 million I think.
I think her own lawyers left her because she wouldn't take their counsel, didn't they?
They left because she couldn't pay them.
''But all of you that have researched know that it was always going to be a figure between 20 and 30 million (pounds), Paul was offering a lot less than that, which you'll see in the judgment, and very much last minute to put me and Beatrice sadly through this ... incredibly sad.''
Isn't it her that's put Beatrice through this? I see another court case around the corner! ;D
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Mills: "I'm not appealing against the judgment because it's not worth it," she said. "I'm appealing against the publication of it because it has so many details of me and my daughter in it. It has a stay on it until the appeal tomorrow."
That's rich coming from someone who wanted to write a book about her time with him.
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What was the record again?
38 Million, I think.
I think her own lawyers left her because she wouldn't take their counsel, didn't they?
They left because she didn't pay them. They'll be all over her now.
Paul was offering a lot less than that, which you'll see in the judgment, and very much last minute to put me and Beatrice sadly through this ... incredibly sad.''
isn't it her that's put the daughter through this?
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Anyone looking for a new rich girlfriend ,please apply here (afraid5)(afraid1)(afraid5)(afraid1)(afraid5)
That's it; I'm going celibate.
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Mills: "I'm not appealing against the judgment because it's not worth it," she said. "I'm appealing against the publication of it because it has so many details of me and my daughter in it. It has a stay on it until the appeal tomorrow."
That's rich coming from someone who wanted to write a book about her time with him.
That's why she doesn't want it to come out. Who'll buy her book if it's already public record?
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I've just heard on the BBC, that she could already be in trouble with the court. There is apparently a gagging order, but within minutes of leaving the court she'd breeched it. Excellent. Expect this to run and run!
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The BBC are speculating that Heather throw water over Fiona Shackleton ,Paul's solicitor in court , she is seen going into court with dry hair and when she leave's it damp and swept back .
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The BBC are speculating that Heather throw water over Fiona Shackleton ,Paul's solicitor in court , she is seen going into court with dry hair and when she leave's it damp and swept back .
Apparently, our Fiona dug the dirt big time! I'm sure a little water won't hurt too much when she receives her fee!
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Agree she's done a good job BlueMeanie . I think Heather's problems are just begining she could be skint in two years lol
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Agree she's done a good job BlueMeanie . I think Heather's problems are just begining she could be skint in two years lol
She owes her laywers a shed load, and the court case will have cost a fortune, even representing herself. She probably would have been better off financially, accepting his first offer.
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From the summary:
7. The lump sum of 16.5 million pounds ($33 million) is made up of a sum of 14 million pounds ($28 million) as the capitalized figure for the wife's income needs, which the judge assessed at 600,000 pounds ($1.2 million) per annum, and a sum of 2.5 million pounds ($5 million) for the wife to buy a property in London.
600,000 pounds a year? High maintenance, indeed.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/17/mccartney.ruling/index.html?iref=newssearch
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She owes her laywers a shed load, and the court case will have cost a fortune, even representing herself. She probably would have been better off financially, accepting his first offer.
Oh, right: she'll need all that to pay off the lawyers.
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Fiona Shackleton going into court with Paul and coming out .Looks very much like there was a water fight .Funny i thought Ms Mills did'nt agree with violence ?
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Hee! The water fight is cracking me up. Where are all the space aliens with their telescopes? I want to see this posted on YouTube. :D
600,000 pounds a year? High maintenance, indeed.
I could probably step up to that. *stands in line to marry Paul when all this is over*
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I'm sure there will be some wicked comedy sketches appearing very soon harihead of the water fight (beer)
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What really happened was that, in a cruel twist of fate, they both went to the women's restroom at the same time. Toilets, sinks-- this won't be pretty!
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Yay Paul!
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Fiona Shackleton going into court with Paul and coming out .Looks very much like there was a water fight .Funny i thought Ms Mills did'nt agree with violence ?
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Wow.......
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I can go along with this, not that it's encouraging (or applies much to me):
"The strongest lesson to emerge from the McCartney/Mills divorce is probably the one repeatedly stressed by lawyers who handle big-money divorces: try to marry someone roughly as rich as you are...."
Rest here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/mar/17/law.divorce
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My God Paul looks ancient in that last pic. But happy. Good for him that it's finally over. They called her the most hated woman in Britain on the news today. That's hysterical. She really does come off bad. She makes Yoko look like Mother Theresa.
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24.3 million GBP.
~16,660 GBP for each day they were married.
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~16,660 GBP for each day they were married.
I adore you.
"The strongest lesson to emerge from the McCartney/Mills divorce is probably the one repeatedly stressed by lawyers who handle big-money divorces: try to marry someone roughly as rich as you are...."
Rats, that leaves me out. And here I was all prepared to be the next ex.
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Well i just spent 2 hours reading through the full 58 page High Court ruling of Paul's divorce and i must say it's a fascinating read , so much more information than i thought he would allow into the public arena , it's a goldmine of facts .
I downloaded it from Sky news , it can only be read by Adobe Reader 8 , so i don't know how to get it up on here ?
I will e-mail it to BlueMeanie he will know how to get it up on the forum for you all to see.
What an absolute nightmare Heather was , there's loads to discuss .
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Wow! Thanks, DaveRam. It looks like I owe you and Paul and new bunch of flowers. *places order*
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Just e-mailed it to Paul ,can't wait to hear people's comments it's a longtime since we have had such a juicy document like this to get are teeth into , it's just so detailed harihead you will love it .
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Man the BBC are loving putting this out. You don't take on someone who has been dealing with the press for years in such a way. Weaved her own web or made her own bed...It's funny that she thinks she was worth so much before meeting McCartney.
Anyways, you guys are gonna rip it apart better than I will so I'll just read & enjoy. ;)
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From the BBC:
The judge added that her tax returns "disclose no charitable giving at all", despite Mills saying she gave "as much as 80% or 90% of her earnings ... direct to charities".
Commenting on that claims, Ms Mills said it was because her accountant "hadn't ticked the tax return box".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7302736.stm
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it's just so detailed harihead you will love it .
You know me so well. ;)
Commenting on that claims, Ms Mills said it was because her accountant "hadn't ticked the tax return box".
It's the accountant's fault! That shoddy accountant. Poor Ms Mills, never figuring out that her excessive tax bill was because the 90% deduction from her income went unnoticed.
And I'm sure you've seen this, but here's the sidebar. Again, Mills appears very calm and balanced:
Mills soaked McCartney's lawyer
Sir Paul's lawyer Fiona Shackleton left court with wet hair (right)
Heather Mills poured a jug of water over the head of Sir Paul McCartney's lawyer Fiona Shackleton at the end of their divorce case, she has admitted.
Ms Shackleton was seen leaving the High Court in London with wet hair after the hearing on Monday.
Ms Mills told the BBC she approached Ms Shackleton and said: "I'm not a loser."
She then "poured the whole jug of water on her head", she said. "I was very calm," she added.
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It's the accountant's fault! That shoddy accountant.
If I were her, I'd spend some of that 600,000p a year on a better accountant.
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Just e-mailed it to Paul ,can't wait to hear people's comments it's a longtime since we have had such a juicy document like this to get are teeth into , it's just so detailed harihead you will love it .
Thanks Dvae, but it's about 38 pages, so I'm not posting that!
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You can download it here (267k), or read some excerpts, if you like:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7303080.stm
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That's ok Paul , Geoff as the BBC Entertainment link you can read the full judgement on that (crosseyed2)
It's a bit legal but if i can understand the gist of it anyone can .
I love the bit where Paul acknowledges Heather's suggestion of an " Acrylic Finger-nail " to help him play guitar , it was a brilliant idea he says lol
Fiona Mills was Heather's personal trainer and she charged Paul 345,000 for that
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My Mum passed judgement on Heather today just the three words " Common as Muck "(clap)
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Fiona Mills was Heather's personal trainer and she charged Paul 345,000 for that
And she needed a personal trainer for what?
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And she needed a personal trainer for what?
Maybe to keep fit to carry the 40,000 pounds worth of flowers she charged to Paul , it beggers belief the amount of money she was spending . And she as the brass- neck to say she was'nt a golddigger .
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Remember, this is a woman who "computes her reasonable needs for herself and Beatrice at $3,250,000 p.a." Clearly, we are all pikers in the money-spending game. What's 40,000 pounds for flowers when you "need" to spend 3 million quid a year just to keep yourself going?
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Burn the witch. Burn her, Burn her!!!
Excuse me.
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And she needed a personal trainer for what?
Basic motor coordination. It can't be easy even walking with that chip on your shoulder.
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Basic motor coordination. It can't be easy even walking with that chip on your shoulder.
Well, at least she has two shoulders!!
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how do you know she's a witch?
she looks like one!!
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how do you know she's a witch?
she looks like one!!
I know where we can find a ducking stool! If she drowns she's not a witch!
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I'll bet she weighs the same as a duck.
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I finished the 58-page document. Interesting and also disturbing.
I wouldn't mind being awarded 30,000 pounds p.a. for food, wine and flowers. I could even use it for other things. I'd say Ms. Mills came out handsomely from this whole thing. I enjoy the judge's comments where (I suppose you're allowed to do this if you're a judge) he gives his real opinion, saying that Mills made her own trouble for herself, and she'll have to get out of it (in terms of reputation, primarily). It felt "fair" to me, albeit overly generous.
What disturbed me was all the info about Sir Paul's security arrangements that is now public. Excuse me, after John and George, I really felt very uneasy about this info being released publicly. I imagine for the short term Paul had better beef up security. Did I understand incorrectly, or wasn't this information supposed to remain private? I think both Heather and Paul may have got a nasty knock seeing their private business--overspendings, assets, habits-- aired to an eager public. I just don't want this to turn into something worse than an acrimonious divorce. *crosses fingers*
And Ms. Mills is not a witch. You dressed her up like that!
I'll bet she weighs the same as a duck.
It's a fair cop.
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Fiona Shackleton going into court with Paul and coming out .Looks very much like there was a water fight .Funny i thought Ms Mills did'nt agree with violence ?
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OK, I'm just a swine (no offense intended, The Swine), but what I see is a very tense Paul walking in (w/ lawyer well coiffed), then a very relaxed Paul coming out, and his female partner looking like she just took a little shower.
Sorry, but you know it IS Paul!
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I am SO GLAD that she got the 48 mill. you know Paul was nice and settled for 90 she went higher and got less. I'm glad, she got what she diserved. I mean come on, the lady married PAUL MCCARTNEY...A BEATLE, and she can't make it work. well I hope he will be happy now with his new daughter...Beatrice I think is how it's spelled.
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I agree with you harihead about your security concern a few farm workers keeping an eye out is a worry ?
The other thing that i also was concerned about is , there is clear evidence of a crime in the shape of trying to obtain a loan from Paul to pay off a non existent mortgage, to me that's fraud and criminal offence in the UK , why was Ms Mills not charged with that ?
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Reading the Sun yesterday made me laugh...The Long & Whining moan....Classic. lol
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The other thing that i also was concerned about is , there is clear evidence of a crime in the shape of trying to obtain a loan from Paul to pay off a non existent mortgage, to me that's fraud and criminal offence in the UK , why was Ms Mills not charged with that ?
There may not be enough hard evidence. And in emotional cases like these, it's often best to let past behavior slide. What's more important is that Paul move on and put this behind him, not drag it out with case after case, keeping it alive. As for Ms. Mills, the world has been warned. If some idiot wants to fall for her scheme now, well...
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I worry a bit about Beatrice: Mills has custody, right?
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I think it's joint, one week on and one week off. Did I get that right?
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I know what it's like to have parents split at a young age mine did when I was three and they weren't even completely living together before then. I don't know what it's lke to have 2 parents in the same house so I just hope that Beatrice get's what I didn't. I also hope that Heather gets what she diserves and that Paul doesn't suffer too much more. But I think that this can only bring Macca's kids closer to him and that's good.
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I think Paul should have gotten full custody of Bea. I mean for christ sakes, Mills said on national tv that she almost committed suicide or something like that. I wouldn't want my kid with her. :o
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Heather wants so much but only to benefit herself. I partially beleive that she only wants Beatrice to keep her from Paul.
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I partially believe that she only wants Beatrice to keep her from Paul.
You may be right, and it's worrying. The sad thing is that this may go on and on for just this sort of reason. I hope Harihead is right that it's joint custody.
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You may be right, and it's worrying. The sad thing is that this may go on and on for just this sort of reason. I hope Harihead is right that it's joint custordy.
I also think that even though Heather "doesn't get enough" from the settlement she won't actually be able to pay child support if Paul gets full custody of her. Although I don't think he would need any help.
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and it is soo ugly. i feel bad 4 him
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I heard on the radio that even though she claims she gives up to 80 percent of her income to charity there is absolutely no proof whatsoever of this. No records, no one coming forward to back her claims up, nothing declared. Don't know if this is true at all, just something that's going around. I also heard that she wants to move to the United States. If that's the case I'm suddenly all for strict immigration laws! Keep away!
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Possibly a crass question: is there anything in the judgment that would prevent Mills from writing a book? Would any publisher in Britain think such a thing was marketable?
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I heard on the radio that even though she claims she gives up to 80 percent of her income to charity there is absolutely no proof whatsoever of this. No records, no one coming forward to back her claims up, nothing declared. Don't know if this is true at all, just something that's going around. I also heard that she wants to move to the United States. If that's the case I'm suddenly all for strict immigration laws! Keep away!
There is no record in her tax returns for the last 6 years that she has donated anything at all to any charity. She says her accounant forgot to tick the box! So she let him 'forget' for six years!
Possibly a crass question: is there anything in the judgment that would prevent Mills from writing a book? Would any publisher in Britain think such a thing was marketable?
(afraid1)
Apparently there is a gagging order on her, so she can't write a book, or sell her story to the papers.
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What could she call such a book " A liar's Tale " or " How I Screwed A Beatle "(jumping)
What she needs to do is disapear for 12 years and redeem herself ,she could try been a really good mother to Beatrice , i think if she did such a selfless act people might just give her a second chance ?
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If I was the judge, I would have granted the 21 million and then deducted 80% to her charities! lol
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If I was the judge, I would have granted the 21 million and then deducted 80% to her charities! lol
At source, so Macca got the tax rebate!
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Oh, so Sir Paul gets the tax benefit for the charity part of the settlement! That's very clever, that judge. Especially as he could probably see that the passionate Ms. Mills would not donate one iota of her income to charity unless compelled.
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I think in the end Macca lost some money but gained perspective on people. ESP gold-diggers.
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There is no record in her tax returns for the last 6 years that she has donated anything at all to any charity. She says her accounant forgot to tick the box! So she let him 'forget' for six years!
Maybe she considers herself a charity case. Therefore spending obscene amounts of money on herself counts as charity in her warped mind.
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Apparently there is a gagging order on her, so she can't write a book, or sell her story to the papers.
But there is no gagging order on her sister.
According to several newspapers today she & her sister have gone to America to broker a publishing deal for her sister.
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What an evil b****. Doesn't she realize that NO ONE likes her?
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What an evil b****. Doesn't she realize that NO ONE likes her?
the judge certainly dosen't. just watching her giving that interview when she came out of court
makes me want to smack her! ...why can't she just shut up altogether now!! ??)
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your right. ugggggggggg. i hate her soo much ??)
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Her Head is so far up her A** she can't even see that no one is on her side.
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It isn't over yet:
HEATHER Mills is making a bold bid for Hollywood
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"Heather is more appreciated in the US than in this country. Her view will be greatly appreciated."
;D (laugh2) (crosseyed2) (hammer2)
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Director Scorsese ... has not yet commented on Ms Mills’s offer.
Publicly. I'd like to know what he said privately. :)
I'm sure Ms. Mills can throw lots of light onto George's life. She probably talked to him for, oh, ten minutes over the years, if we added it all up.
It irritates me that she was present at Paul's last conversation with George, because they apparently settled some old misunderstandings-- privately. The last thing either of them needs is for their final discussion to be broadcast to the world. I'd like to know if she intends to use her privileged position to blacken Sir Paul some more, or if she'd like to blacken George as well. Heck, why not all the Beatles! She was "in", she knows the truth!
Thanks for posting this, Cor. I'm thoroughly depressed now.
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. The last thing either of them needs is for their final discussion to be broadcast to the world.
I hadn't thought of that... ouch. :-/
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Thanks for posting this, Cor. I'm thoroughly depressed now.
I'm sorry about that. But you know bad news travels fast.
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No, no. It's best to be prepared. If I'd walked into Scorsese's film and got an unprepared blast of Mills, I'd probably need psychotherapy afterwards.
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Something in Ms Mills eyes , she really is quite unhinged (afraid5)(afraid5)(afraid5)
Hope to god Martin Scorsese does'nt entertain her , poor Olivia can do without her spiteful opinions .
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I don't think Scorsese is that stupid. I wouldn't worry. I also find it funny that she thinks she's going to be appreciated here. Once the Hollywood phonies she's hanging with get bored with her she's in for a rude awakening. I think the smartest thing she could possibly do would be to SHUT UP and GO AWAY! Seriously, keeping a low profile at this point wouldn't hurt. I think she's a little thick though.
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I also find it funny that she thinks she's going to be appreciated here.
Me, too: she's a C-list celebrity at best. Larry King may give her another hour on some day when the alternative is booking Larry Craig, but after that it's going to be things like Fear Factor- Special Celebrity Edition.
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I think she's looking to make a lot of money from being 'the b****.' ....yawn boring yawn.
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ITV had an hour long special on this last night. The bastards dropped Harry Hills "TV Burp" for it!! (I'd stayed awake especially.)
This was the modern equivalent of dragging her in to the street and tar and feathering her. Endless smug talking heads saying how crazy Heather is and what a nice man Paul is. Is the world really that simple?
All this pitchfork-and-torches hysteria is bugging me more than anything she ever did.
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the world really that simple?
Some people like to think it is, or at least people selling entertainment to people, where a hero/villain always helps the masses get on board with the program.
I did a stint as a divorce counselor, and there are always two points of view. The most memorable to me was a woman I was counseling about her awful, overbearing, suffocating husband. He was a monster! A few months later I counseled this other guy, meek, heart-broken, shattered. They had different last names; I only belated learned they had been husband and wife. This was the monster!
I'm sure the woman saw him that way. And divorce changes people, makes them crazy for a while. But people must always use their experience and judgment. I'm sure Mills and McCartney had enough disagreements between them to each collect a list of grievances. Paul has always been exceedingly good at personal presentation-- it's just the way he's built-- and that's working against Mills right now.
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bottom line she is a money whore b****(devil7)(devil7)(devil7)
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Paul has always been exceedingly good at personal presentation-- it's just the way he's built-- and that's working against Mills right now.
Mills is working against Mills now, too: dumping a pitcher of water over Paul's solicitor's head is not going to win her the publicity battle. ;)
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she's loose cannon that needs to be put away
I wish we had a "Heather behind Bars" smiley ;D
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she's loose cannon that needs to be put away
I wish we had a "Heather behind Bars" smiley ;D
The best I could do.
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SO GREAT!!!
nice picture ;D ;D
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Great pic, Paul. It does rather give her that chimpanzee look.
Mills is working against Mills now, too: dumping a pitcher of water over Paul's solicitor's head is not going to win her the publicity battle. ;)
Yes, but she was "calm" while she did it-- she said so! Surely you can get behind a woman who only pours water over other people's heads while she's "calm". ;)
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Surely you can get behind a woman who only pours water over other people's heads while she's "calm". ;)
Yes I can- far behind and running away in the opposite direction. ;)
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after pouring water over her head!
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Finally got logged back in! Hi guys!
Hopefully this will be the last we see of this awful woman. Maybe Paul can finally catch up to his mourning of Linda. RIP Linda.
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it shoulda been mills to get cancer, not linda!
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it shoulda been mills to get cancer, not linda!
Sorry but i can't agree with this , and as much as i don't like Ms Mills i would'nt wish that on her .
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I agree, Dave Ram. I don't like her either, but I wouldn't wish something like THAT to happen to her.
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I just wish Linda were still alive :'(
she was a great woman and so pretty
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thars what i mean. linda was so great 4 paul. its not that i wish death on anyone, its just that i wish linda was still alive, and if someone had to get cancer, i would like it to be a gold digger instead of paul's wife
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Got time to play a Heather Mills video game?
http://www.muccachucka.com/
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hahahahahahahahahaha thats a funny and awesome game
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Paul finds a use for the spare leg.
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hehehe
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Finally got logged back in! Hi guys!
Hopefully this will be the last we see of this awful woman. Maybe Paul can finally catch up to his mourning of Linda. RIP Linda.
Of course, there's also just as much liklehood that Paul did all his mourning in that extra brief period between wives. Many people testify to him being a rather remote, emotionally cold kind of chap. (which many people say is standard fare for your postwar northern type chap). You can take the boy out of Liverpool, but you can't.....
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Sorry but i can't agree with this , and as much as i don't like Ms Mills i would'nt wish that on her .
heather just needs a good SMACK!!!! :P
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how did you get that picture, who posed for that?
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And after all she said about "not knowing the Beatles". Hmm!
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Heather just needs to change her name and move to Greenland.
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OK, I'm just a swine (no offense intended, The Swine), but what I see is a very tense Paul walking in (w/ lawyer well coiffed), then a very relaxed Paul coming out, and his female partner looking like she just took a little shower.
grunt. you look like an alexis to me.
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Watched " Heather Mills :What Really Happpend " on channel 4 last night ,which was an hour long documentry type programme looking at Heather's life .
She did'nt come out of it well , her high class call girl days was very intresting and the first TV interview with her father Mr Mills was very sad , he sufferd a stroke in 1991 and as trouble speaking , he denied physically abusing her as a child and said he was proud of her . They have been estranged for 20 years , all he asked for was a phone call now and then from his daughter . Looked to me like Heather needs to sort things out with her dad if she's ever going to find true happiness .
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I was curious if anyone had watched this.
I can't help wondering at what point Paul realized her past. It might not have bothered him, as he was a randy little sucker in his youth and fairly broad-minded (oh, a pun!). But if he found it out after they started falling out, he might have felt it more as a shock.
Thanks for the report, DaveRam!
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Paul was aware of Heather's glamour modelling , and in the early days as the programme showed he was ringing the newspapers and asking them to cut Heather some slack and give her a chance .
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heather has enough rope now, i'm sitting back watching her swing.
sooner or later we will hear something, but it won't shock us, unless she harms lil bea too.
a person who really is thinking of suicide, doesnt shuffle their feet, they do it.
she is a disgrace to women, handicapped people, and people with suicide on their minds.
her ugliness is really inside and out.
wonder if the mister ed movie is still in production, lol.
;D
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she is a disgrace to women, handicapped people, and people with suicide on their minds.
Oh that made me smile.
ps I don't think saying "handicapped" is very kosher these days. They're not fair game like wrist slitting loonies. "You're a disgrace to nutters everywhere!" Fantastic.
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"You're a disgrace to nutters everywhere!" Fantastic.
your right.
thanks for correcting me.
I should never compare heather with anyone, she's in a class all her own.
;)
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In the good way right ;)
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~16,660 GBP for each day they were married. Sheeeeyooot!
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I don't know whether to cringe at that or to become a high-class hooker.
Discuss.
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well both have advantages.... Tough one... :)
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Looks like someone has a DADDY COMPLEX.
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I hope Paul and Fiona Shackleton remember to bring umbrellas this time....
McCartney Divorce Set to be Finalised
Fri May 9, 2008 6:43pm BST
LONDON (Reuters) - Paul McCartney and his estranged wife Heather Mills are scheduled to return to High Court on Monday for their divorce to be formally finalised.
At the hearing before Justice Hugh Bennett, the couple are likely to be granted a divorce on the uncontested basis that they have lived apart for two years.
In March, Bennett blasted Mills, branding her evidence in a battle over her divorce pay-off as "inconsistent and inaccurate."
He ended up awarding Mills 24.3 million pounds -- a fifth of the sum she had been seeking. That still gave her the equivalent of about $34,000 (17,400 pounds) for each day of her four-year marriage to the pop icon.
In his judgment, Bennett also set a time-table for the final divorce.
He said that the former Beatle and Mills had agreed to stay their divorce proceedings until May. By then, they would have been separated for two years.
At the time he scheduled Monday's hearing, Bennett said "I hope to be able to pronounce a decree nisi of divorce."
McCartney married the former model and charity campaigner in 2002, four years after his first wife Linda died of breast cancer. They have a daughter, Beatrice.
(Reporting by Paul Majendie, Editing by Mike Collett-White)
http://uk.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUKL0990006020080509
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McCartney and Mills Granted Divorce
LONDON (Reuters) - The ill-fated marriage of former Beatle Paul McCartney and his estranged wife Heather Mills came to a formal end during a 30-second hearing at London's High Court on Monday.
Justice Hugh Bennett said the petition for divorce by Mills was granted on the grounds that the couple had lived apart for two years.
Neither McCartney nor Mills were in court for the decree nisi.
Bennett said: "On the petition for divorce presented by Miss Heather Mills, I pronounce the decree nisi of divorce on the grounds of two years' separation.
"Sir Paul McCartney has consented to the decree being granted on these grounds."
The brief hearing contrasted with the protracted and bitter fight over the divorce settlement earlier this year.
In March, the judge blasted Mills, branding her evidence as "inconsistent and inaccurate."
He ended up awarding Mills 24.3 million pounds -- a fifth of the sum she had been seeking. That still gave her the equivalent of about $34,000 for each day of the four-year marriage.
McCartney married the former model and charity campaigner in 2002, four years after his first wife Linda died of breast cancer. They have a daughter, Beatrice.
(Reporting by Avril Ormsby and Paul Majendie)
http://uk.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUKL122579520080512
... $34,000 a day, though. (thinker)
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... $34,000 a day, though.
Obviously some people manage their careers much better than the way I manage mine! ;D
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Obviously some people manage their careers much better than the way I manage mine! ;D
I come up short a few zeros myself. The possibility of another Mills career move ought to put the whole male gender on notice, too. ;D
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New Yorkers take note: ;D
Heather Mills' US Move
June 16, 2008
Heather Mills has splashed out over 2.5 million on a New York apartment.
The former model - who won 24.3 million in her divorce settlement from Beatles legend Sir Paul McCartney - will be living in the same exclusive area as fashion designer Calvin Klein and actress Nicole Kidman.
A real estate expert said: "It's a very special property. She will have important neighbours."
The apartment is in the prestigious 173 Perry Street block, designed by architect Richard Meier.
It is located in the city's West Village area and lies just half a mile from a store owned by Heather's ex-stepdaughter, fashion designer Stella McCartney.
British-born Heather will live in the apartment with her four-year-old daughter Beatrice, from her marriage to Paul.
Heather, 40, was awarded the huge divorce settlement in March after her four-year marriage to Paul, 65, broke down in 2006.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1411431.php/Heather_Mills_US_move
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Just to make sure we don't forget about her. ;D
(http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/heathermillsxv1.jpg)
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you've been a bad girl ms mills. :D
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Just to make sure we don't forget about her. ;D
([url]http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/heathermillsxv1.jpg[/url])
Ugggh, as if we needed to be reminded of the worst Beatle wife ever! >:( >:( ;D
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That ought to be censored!
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Ah, yes. Here we go.
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And who`s the guy?
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Ah, yes. Here we go.
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LMAO! ;D ;D ;D
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100329/tuk-mills-took-advantage-of-nanny-6323e80.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100329/tuk-mills-took-advantage-of-nanny-6323e80.html)
Mills 'took advantage of nanny'
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Sara Trumble, 26, said her former employer became rude and highly strung after she and the ex-Beatle divorced in 2008.
She also claimed the former model was unsympathetic towards her when she went through a difficult pregnancy, forcing her to accompany her on trips abroad.
Ms Trumble, who was paid £260 a week by Heather, said she felt she was a hard-working and loyal worker but in return her former boss took advantage of her.
Opening her case for compensation before an employment tribunal in Ashford, Kent, Ms Trumble who kept a diary throughout much of her employment, said her hours changed as Beatrice grew older and began going to nursery and she was then expected to help with housework as well.
However she soon found she was often expected to stay well after her set hours while she waited for Mills and Sir Paul to return home from their various engagements, but received no extra pay.
Ms Trumble said she was shocked when Mills told her she had to tell a film crew she had hired "how wonderful she was" for a film that was put on YouTube. The interview was entirely orchestrated by Heather," she said.
Ms Trumble told the tribunal that when she became pregnant in February 2007 Mills paid for her to go to a private clinic in London.
But she said she resented having to accompany Mills and Beatrice to the US while she competed in Dancing With The Stars as she was very sick at the time.
Ms Trumble said she was very grateful when Mills gave her a cheque for £1,000 after she gave birth to a daughter but added that she was then asked to look after Beatrice when she was meant to be on maternity leave.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/7538809/Heather-Mills-Nanny-I-treated-like-a-daughter-has-betrayed-me.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/7538809/Heather-Mills-Nanny-I-treated-like-a-daughter-has-betrayed-me.html)
Heather Mills: 'Nanny I treated like a daughter has betrayed me'
Heather Mills insisted yesterday that she treated her former nanny "like a daughter" and accused the beautician of betrayal for taking her to an employment tribunal.
By Matthew Moore
Published: 10:27PM BST 30 Mar 2010
Sara Trumble and Heather Mills arrive at Ashford Employment Tribunal, Kent Photo: DAVID ROSE
Miss Mills said she was "devastated" by Sara Trumble's sex discrimination allegations, which she alleged were motivated by money, and broke down in tears while describing the end of their frienship.
At one point the hearing was held up as Sir Paul McCartney's ex-wife directly accused her former employee of distorting the truth, saying: "Sara won't look at anyone in the eye because she is lying."
Miss Trumble, 26, is seeking compensation from Miss Mills, a charity campaigner, for unfair dismissal. She claims she suffered changes to her employment terms after taking maternity leave.
Giving evidence on the second day of the tribunal, Miss Mills was repeatedly warned by the tribunal chairman to stick to relevant information.
She also repeatedly walked across the roome to whisper in her solicitor's ear during Miss Trimble's evidence, at one point earning a request from her own sister Fiona to sit down.
Under cross-examination Miss Trimble confirmed that she had received a £10,000 gift from Sir Paul after her employers separated, but insisted that she declined the windfall several times before accepting
She also acknowledged that Ms Mills took her to Slovenia with her other staff and friends to celebrate her 39th birthday and she was invited to join the charity campaigner on a holiday to Sir Richard Branson's private Caribbean island, although she was unable to go.
But the former beauty therapist insisted thats Miss Mills's other employees also noticed a changed in the campaigner's behaviour after her divorce from the former Beatle.
She said "I wasn't the only person who felt that at that time. It's just that nobody else will stand up. I decided to take action and fight this for myself."
In response, Miss Mills told the hearing how she employed the younger woman as a childminder and beauty assistant after learning she earned as little as £20 a week for giving massages at Hilden Health Club in Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
She said: "Overly helpful Heather, I offered her some way to help her better herself as I thought she had huge potential."
Miss Mills described how she bought her employee gifts including clothes and a breast pump, and said Miss Trimble had asked her to be godmother to her children.
She said: "I wasn't demanding and that's always been my problem... she actually worked the least hours of all my staff, I was the softest on her of all my staff."
Reading from a statement, she added: "I do not accept that I discriminated against Sara in any way or that I treated her unfairly. I therefore have drawn the regretful conclusion that Sara has made these allegations against me purely to make money."
"I am still devastated by her claims and feel that I've been deeply betrayed by someone who I considered a dear friend, not just an employee."
Miss Mills also claimed that the nanny asked for £4,000 to fund breast enlargement surgery just months after giving birth to her daughter.
The charity campaigner said she refused the request out of concern for Miss Trumble's health, adding that she took an interest in the new mother's welfare having herself suffered six miscarriages and two ectopic pregnancies.
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Ugh! I hate this woman! I don't believe Ms. Golddigger at all.
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Our special reporter AAB will keep you informed. lol
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Our special reporter AAB will keep you informed. lol
Heheh...it amused to see these two conflicting articles.....keepoing it balanced. ;D
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A fly flies in,
A fly flies out,
Most flies they got three legs
But mine got one.