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Title: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: nimrod on July 16, 2017, 02:31:49 AM: Ive been interested in listening to songs they did by their original artists, some really good songs, that the boys enjoyed playing and singing.
Joe Brown & The Bruvvers had chart success before The Beatles and I think "A Picture Of You" was their only No 1
They obviously liked it and George sang it well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE-EFKv1qn8# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE-EFKv1qn8#)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4fgEZ9JZ0U# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4fgEZ9JZ0U#)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: KelMar on July 16, 2017, 03:31:55 AM: This is a great topic, Kev! It's also an interest of mine, one that got ignited the first time I listened to Live at the BBC. What a joy it's been to discover a previously unknown body of work.
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: nimrod on July 16, 2017, 06:54:42 AM: Quote from: In My Life on July 16, 2017, 03:31:55 AM
This is a great topic, Kev! It's also an interest of mine, one that got ignited the first time I listened to Live at the BBC. What a joy it's been to discover a previously unknown body of work.

Thanks Kelley, its a real goldmine of great songs
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: nimrod on July 16, 2017, 11:33:38 PM: Famous Yodeller Frank Ifield had a huge British hit with his song "I Remember You" in 1962 .The Beatles actually toured with him, Paul also sang it, a very catchy song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgm0KNICGcU# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgm0KNICGcU#)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdCXwcOI7CY# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdCXwcOI7CY#)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: KelMar on July 17, 2017, 02:28:40 AM: I love this one by Arthur Alexander. It's probably my favorite.

https://youtu.be/5RosiKzxRJghttps://youtu.be/gbP0ooVMXPQ (https://youtu.be/5RosiKzxRJghttps://youtu.be/gbP0ooVMXPQ)

I really wish The Beatles had done a proper recording of this.

https://youtu.be/gbP0ooVMXPQ (https://youtu.be/gbP0ooVMXPQ)

I'm not sure why Ringo's picture was put in there. Oh well!
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: nimrod on July 17, 2017, 07:01:56 AM: That was on my list Kelley, great song and I believe John in particular was a bit obsessed by it
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 17, 2017, 08:14:52 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIJZSs2gxdo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIJZSs2gxdo#)
Written and performed by Consuelo Velázquez 1940

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En4Dk4zQn-M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En4Dk4zQn-M#)

Cha-cha boom! ;D
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 17, 2017, 08:27:21 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXBT4ksiXZY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXBT4ksiXZY#)
1957

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZefx59sI30# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZefx59sI30#)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: nimrod on July 18, 2017, 12:24:49 AM: Quote from: Hello Goodbye on July 17, 2017, 08:14:52 PM
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIJZSs2gxdo#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIJZSs2gxdo#[/url])
Written and performed by Consuelo Velázquez 1940

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En4Dk4zQn-M#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En4Dk4zQn-M#[/url])

Cha-cha boom! ;D

;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI7UbuhMTbY# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI7UbuhMTbY#)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 18, 2017, 12:59:46 AM: ^

They even threw a cha-cha boom in there. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7EhSrD1GE8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7EhSrD1GE8#)
James Melton and Rhythm Wreckers 1937

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWW89Abyank# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWW89Abyank#)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: nimrod on July 18, 2017, 04:23:40 AM: This was a B side that Paul discovered by The Lafayettes, but I cant find a Beatle recording of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI7UbuhMTbY# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI7UbuhMTbY#)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 20, 2017, 04:20:33 AM: ^

Cha-cha boom!
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: nimrod on July 20, 2017, 08:06:38 AM: Quote from: Hello Goodbye on July 20, 2017, 04:20:33 AM
^

Cha-cha boom!

Disappointed that our you tube expert couldnt find a Beatles version ;D
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 21, 2017, 12:35:35 AM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtXnDC27h30# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtXnDC27h30#)

Nobody But You is on this CD, Kev...

(https://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/8160273//bmmg/ent/Various-Beatles-Beginnings-Vol.-5-Star-Club-1962-63-L5060331750093.JPG)

1. Love Is a Swingin' Thing
2. Shot of Rhythm & Blues
3. Thumbin' a Ride
4. Nobody But You
5. If You Gotta Make a Fool
6. Soldier of Love
7. Dream Baby
8. Mr. Moonlight
9. Man with the Golden Arm
10. Bring It on Home to Me
11. Picture of You, A
12. Don't Ever Change
13. I Remember You
14. Reminiscing
15. Sheila
16. Beautiful Dreamer
17. Hey Baby
18. Open (Your Lovin' Arms)
19. One Track Mind
20. What a Crazy World
21. There's No One in the World
22. Where Have You Been All My Life
23. I Got to Find My Baby
24. I Just Don't Understand
25. Red Hot
26. Will You Love Me Tomorrow
27. Sheik of Araby, The
28. Send Me Some Lovin'
29. Sharing You

I'll see if I can find it on YouTube but I remember seeing it in the Bootleg Section.
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: KelMar on July 21, 2017, 12:40:59 AM: Quote from: nimrod on July 17, 2017, 07:01:56 AM
That was on my list Kelley, great song and I believe John in particular was a bit obsessed by it

I get obsessed with it from time to time, too! The title sounds kind of like a smarmy pick-up line but the lyrics are very sweet and it has a cool sound.
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: KelMar on July 21, 2017, 02:52:07 AM: On the subject of inspiration for Hello Little Girl, John told author David Sheff, "That was me. That was actually my first song. [Singing] 'When I see you every day I say mmm hmm, hello little girl.' I remember some Thirties or Forties song which was [singing] 'You're delightful, you're delicious and da da da. Isn't it a pity that you are such a scatterbrain.' [Laughing] That always fascinated me for some reason or another. It's also connected to my mother. It's all very Freudian. She used to sing that one. So I made Hello Little Girl out of it."

Shaff assumed that John was referring to Cole Porter's 1936 It's De-Lovely.

https://youtu.be/z2uiP0-VF78 (https://youtu.be/z2uiP0-VF78)

However, Mark Lewisohn picked up on the word scatterbrained and puts forth a different theory for John's inspiration:

"It was with Julia in mind that John wrote another song in the final weeks of 1957. It was his third attempt, following “Calypso Rock” and a second piece about which he’d remember just as little. (He said only once, some years later, “I did one which had the line ‘My love is like a bird with a broken wing’ which I was very proud of.”) Among the songs Julia liked to sing around 1 Blomfield Road was the 1939 dance-band and film number “Scatterbrain,” and John was fascinated by the rhythmic flow of such lines as 'When you smile it’s so delightful / When you talk it’s so insane / Still it’s charming chatter, scatterbrain."

https://youtu.be/dsNsC0jrYx0 (https://youtu.be/dsNsC0jrYx0)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Moogmodule on September 15, 2017, 11:13:09 PM: A book I've read contends that this version of Beautiful Dreamer ...

https://youtu.be/HAlg7NMGexw (https://youtu.be/HAlg7NMGexw)

... was the inspiration for the Beatles arrangement.

https://youtu.be/WBwnY6qN1D0 (https://youtu.be/WBwnY6qN1D0)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: KelMar on September 16, 2017, 11:49:32 PM: Quote from: Moogmodule on September 15, 2017, 11:13:09 PM
A book I've read contends that this version of Beautiful Dreamer ...

... was the inspiration for the Beatles arrangement.

Based on the way the two songs sound to me and the timing reported in this article (https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/song/beautiful-dreamer/), it seems quite plausible to me, Moog. What do your trained ears tell you?
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 17, 2017, 12:23:05 AM: Quote from: Moogmodule on September 15, 2017, 11:13:09 PM
A book I've read contends that this version of Beautiful Dreamer ...

[url]https://youtu.be/HAlg7NMGexw[/url] ([url]https://youtu.be/HAlg7NMGexw[/url])

... was the inspiration for the Beatles arrangement.

[url]https://youtu.be/WBwnY6qN1D0[/url] ([url]https://youtu.be/WBwnY6qN1D0[/url])

Most definitely.
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: nimrod on September 17, 2017, 11:48:47 PM: Yes I agree with moog.

Back on dry land now......although the building seems to be swaying ;D

Baz I can't find that Beatles Beginnings album anywhere :-\
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 18, 2017, 02:43:30 AM: Quote from: nimrod on September 17, 2017, 11:48:47 PM
Baz I can't find that Beatles Beginnings album anywhere :-\

Kev, mate, it's been discontinued. But it's on Amazon for 99.45 USD

Beatles Beginnings 5: Star Club 1962-63 (https://www.amazon.com/Beatles-Beginnings-Star-Club-1962-63/dp/B00DN5OH9O/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1505702430&sr=8-11&keywords=beatles+beginnings)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: nimrod on September 18, 2017, 01:13:11 PM: Quote from: Hello Goodbye on September 18, 2017, 02:43:30 AM
Kev, mate, it's been discontinued. But it's on Amazon for 99.45 USD

Beatles Beginnings 5: Star Club 1962-63 ([url]https://www.amazon.com/Beatles-Beginnings-Star-Club-1962-63/dp/B00DN5OH9O/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1505702430&sr=8-11&keywords=beatles+beginnings[/url])

ouch.....expensive roll:)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 18, 2017, 06:37:40 PM: Quote from: nimrod on September 18, 2017, 01:13:11 PM
ouch.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVFRgoQe86U# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVFRgoQe86U#)

;)
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: nimrod on September 18, 2017, 10:00:16 PM: ha2ha
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Mairi on November 08, 2017, 04:37:39 AM: Paul mentioned the Joan Baez recording of "All My Trials" from her first album as an influence.
Title: Re: Songs That Influenced The Early Beatles
Post by: Normandie on January 22, 2022, 09:31:01 PM: Quote from: Moogmodule on September 15, 2017, 11:13:09 PM
A book I've read contends that this version of Beautiful Dreamer ...

... was the inspiration for the Beatles arrangement.

Darn, those videos are no longer available.

I wasn't aware the Beatles had covered Beautiful Dreamer. I just stumbled across it online. My mom used to love this song; I always disliked it, until I heard the Beatles' version, which I adore.

And unfortunately I've reached my unofficial quota of sending song links to my daughters for the week. I'll have to send them this in a couple of days. They've been surprisingly receptive (for Gen Z) to the stuff I've sent lately (viz., Walking in the Rain, Iko Iko). I have to be sure they continue to appreciate good music, after all. ;)