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Title: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on August 29, 2013, 01:36:45 AM
Don't look at me...

(http://i.imgur.com/pHQpSmA.png)

Paul McCartney 'New' - Album out 14th Oct [UK] / 15th Oct [US] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE_1V0phMW8#)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on August 29, 2013, 01:52:04 AM
Hats off to Mr. McCartney there.

It's not often a song gets you first time, this has.

Que Todd b****in' on the hand claps.

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on August 29, 2013, 09:33:37 AM
I like it. No complaining about the hand claps. If I had anything negative to say about it, it would be that I felt his voice sounded tired and old, but it is so thats to be expected. I need to come to grips with that, but its tough.

Great song. Thanks for posting it Ollie.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on August 29, 2013, 03:17:12 PM
Thanks for the positive reply, hopefully a few will also add their 2c...

Not been about recently, not that I've been anywhere, I can't be assed with the STINYC microscope either.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on August 29, 2013, 11:23:17 PM
Thanks for the positive reply, hopefully a few will also add their 2c...

Not been about recently, not that I've been anywhere, I can't be assed with the STINYC microscope either.

Eh, been pretty slow around here lately. Maybe if I started listening to the Beatles again, something interesting might come out of it.  ha2ha
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on August 30, 2013, 05:31:24 AM
Hmmm, been on a bit of a Beach Boys binge recently, waiting for something "New"...
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on August 30, 2013, 10:21:58 PM
It appears that a new song and album from Paul gets no attention on here anymore.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on August 31, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
I know why I don't come here much anymore, there's new Paul music just about to be released and no sod is talking about it.

This is a nostalgia forum, nothing more.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Ovi on August 31, 2013, 11:07:46 AM
I gave it two listens and thought it quite good, but nothing more. My opinion may change for better or for worse when the album's out, but I'm "saving it" until then. I don't want to be tired of the song by October - I want to be able to open-mindedly judge it within the context of the album.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 01, 2013, 12:39:35 AM
It's a nice song.  It would be even nicer with a piccolo trumpet ending.   ;)

Yay Paul!

 :)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Snoopy66 on September 01, 2013, 06:25:38 PM
Usually, I'm not too much into Paul's solo stuff. But when I heard that song on the radio, I liked it immediately. It's very catching and reminds me of the Beatles - so it can't be bad to my ears. "Now" I'm looking forward to the whole album...

Snoopy
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 02, 2013, 03:15:31 AM
It's very catching and reminds me of the Beatles...

Right, Snoop.  It's like 1967 all over again!
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Snoopy66 on September 02, 2013, 11:08:30 AM
It's like 1967 all over again!
... but why 1967 ? I mean, the hand-clapping could also be from 1964, couldn't it ?

Snoopy
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on September 02, 2013, 11:53:14 PM
I'd say probably circa 2013 or something like that...
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 03, 2013, 03:05:09 AM
... but why 1967 ? I mean, the hand-clapping could also be from 1964, couldn't it ?

Yes, Snoopy, it could have been any of The Beatles years.  But the song reminded me a lot of Penny Lane.  I listened to it right after I got Paul McCartney's email on the 29th.  I see by the comments left on YouTube that many others feel that way too.

I'm also looking forward to the full album.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on September 03, 2013, 10:31:57 AM
But the song reminded me a lot of Penny Lane

Really?  I don't get that statement at all.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Snoopy66 on September 03, 2013, 02:42:17 PM
Yes, Snoopy, it could have been any of The Beatles years.  But the song reminded me a lot of Penny Lane.  I listened to it right after I got Paul McCartney's email on the 29th.  I see by the comments left on YouTube that many others feel that way too.

I'm also looking forward to the full album.
That's odd, I can't really rely this song to Penny Lane, maybe because of the clapping-hands or maybe I should listen to "new" a few more times  ;D. Anyway, I'm very curious about the whole album, if the rest of it also sounds like the Beatles; let's wait and see  :)

Snoopy
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on September 03, 2013, 07:56:18 PM
It doesn't sound any more or less like a Beatle song than about 75% of tunes with a Macca lead vocal if you told someone who was only a casual observer of the B's that it was a Beatle tune...

Wasn't "Fine Line" "Lady Madonna"? "Jenny Wren" was "Blackbird"?

There's going to be similarities but apart from it having that oh so obvious infectious Macca sound then I can't hear "New" as "Penny Lane".

That's the usual crap from the part-timers...
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 03, 2013, 07:59:29 PM
That's odd, I can't really rely this song to Penny Lane, maybe because of the clapping-hands or maybe I should listen to "new" a few more times  ;D.

There are handclaps in Penny Lane too.  But as I said, my first thought upon hearing it a few days ago was that it was reminiscent of Penny Lane.

I guess now I should listen to it again...for clues.    ;D
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Badgirl66 on September 05, 2013, 04:59:31 PM
rumour tracks of the forthcoming NEW Album

 1. Save Us
 2. Alligator
 3. On My Way to Work
 4. Queenie Eye*
 5. Early Days
 6. New*
 7. Appreciate
 8. Everybody Out There *
 9. Hosanna
 10. I Can Bet
 11. Looking At Her
 12. Road

 13. Scared
 14. Struggle

 * from Macca Site
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: nimrod on September 05, 2013, 11:33:52 PM
I know why I don't come here much anymore, there's new Paul music just about to be released and no sod is talking about it.

This is a nostalgia forum, nothing more.

well the Beatles did split up years ago  ha2ha

I wasnt going to comment as I dont really want to be negative, but I hate the damn thing, Barry is right it does have the 'vibe' of Penny Lane, the rhythmic tempo and hanclaps and the melody in parts is kinda similar.
Penny Lane though was a truly great song, both lyrically and melodically, Paul wrote some damn fine lyrics on PL, describing his suburb, you almost felt like you were there, a kind of musical painting/tapestry of imagery and sounds.......so he's capable of greatness (as we all know), why is he writing this ?........................this is just meaningless schmalzz for me, devoid of any depth, just a little catchy tune with a little hook "All My Life...".........Im sorry Paul, like the other little ditty you wrote with your uke 'Everybody Gonna Dance Around' this is throwaway.
Beatle-esque yes, but seriously lacking any meaning or depth. (a trait sadly shown frequently in your solo years)
I dont even like the (what sound like) synthesised instruments, cant hear any guitar or real drums, just machinery thats been programmed in Pro Tools (Computer programme), the handclaps dont sound at all real either, too 'perfect' and robotic, no doubt a Pro Tools plug in.......(maybe thats painful memory for Paul when Stevie Wonder told him his handclaps were out of time during the recording of Ebony & Ivory)
I suppose Id like Paul to work harder on his songs, especially the words !!, Id have preferred this with an acoustic (real) guitar and some Ringo-esque drumming and an inventive bass line, McCartney style. (Im a sucker for The Beatles)  ha2ha

PS....If you like it, take no notice of me.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on September 06, 2013, 06:38:07 AM
I know why I don't come here much anymore, there's new Paul music just about to be released and no sod is talking about it.

This is a nostalgia forum, nothing more.

Come On Ollie, there's nothing wrong with you pulling the cart for a change. Yes, this is a nostalgia forum for the biggest part. Nothing wrong with that. The only current activities are Pauls and all we have now is a singalong song with a nice vibe. That's all. I am looking forward to the complete album however and your review on it.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Ovi on September 06, 2013, 11:09:35 AM

I wasnt going to comment as I dont really want to be negative, but I hate the damn thing, Barry is right it does have the 'vibe' of Penny Lane, the rhythmic tempo and hanclaps and the melody in parts is kinda similar.
Penny Lane though was a truly great song, both lyrically and melodically, Paul wrote some damn fine lyrics on PL, describing his suburb, you almost felt like you were there, a kind of musical painting/tapestry of imagery and sounds.......so he's capable of greatness (as we all know), why is he writing this ?

Yes, because with "And the banker never wears a mac/In the pouring rain, very strange", McCartney was really giving Dylan a good run for his money. Penny Lane's lyrics are typical McCartney, part good, part passable, part nonsense. What really matters is the incredible melody and atmosphere. That's what really makes you feel like you where there. And that's how the McCartney magic has always worked.

A good correspondent to it from his solo career would be 'Mull Of Kintyre' - a huge favourite of mine. Now that's a good set of lyrics, if McCartney ever wrote one. Of course, it's still the melody and atmosphere (why are those damn bagpipes so hair-raising?! Magic McCartney, I'm telling you!) that truly impress, but don't tell me that after Beatles he was never trying.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Badgirl66 on September 06, 2013, 11:25:29 AM
1. Save Us*
2. Alligator*
3. On My Way to Work...
4. Queenie Eye*
5. Early Days
6. New*
 7. Appreciate
 8. Everybody Out There *
 9. Hosanna
 10. I Can Bet
 11. Looking At Her
 12. Road



Deluxe Bonus Songs:
 

  13. Scared

14.Secret Life of a Party Girl

* Single and 4 Songs on Paul McCartney.com
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: nimrod on September 06, 2013, 12:43:10 PM


A good correspondent to it from his solo career would be 'Mull Of Kintyre' - a huge favourite of mine. Now that's a good set of lyrics, if McCartney ever wrote one.

Lyrically I certainly agree that is a great song, but most stuff Ive read in books on the subject seem to say that the fantastic melody was Pauls but most of the lyrics were written by Denny Laine, after all it is down as a McCartney/Laine composition and Im sure Denny didnt write the melody but did indeed add those wonderful verses;

Far have I travelled and much have I seen
Dark distant mountains with valleys of green.
Past painted deserts the sunsets on fire
As he carries me home to the mull of kintyre.

Sweep through the heather like deer in the glen
Carry me back to the days I knew then.
Nights when we sang like a heavenly choir
Of the life and the time of the mull of kintyre.

These are the poetic kind of words that always evaded Paul UNLESS he dug very deep as in Penny Lane (or is that Denny Laine ? ) :D or Eleanor Rigby.

I think Penny Lanes lyrics are very good for Paul, he dug deep into his childhood years and for once we got a glimpse of the real Paul instead of metaphors and more love songs

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 06, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
9. Hosanna

I wonder if this song is the standard Christian song that we play during church? I hope not because my son and I hate that song. Its just boring. Surely, its a different tune.

Looking forward to the album.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 06, 2013, 02:29:59 PM
well the Beatles did split up years ago  ha2ha

I wasnt going to comment as I dont really want to be negative, but I hate the damn thing, Barry is right it does have the 'vibe' of Penny Lane, the rhythmic tempo and hanclaps and the melody in parts is kinda similar.
Penny Lane though was a truly great song, both lyrically and melodically, Paul wrote some damn fine lyrics on PL, describing his suburb, you almost felt like you were there, a kind of musical painting/tapestry of imagery and sounds.......so he's capable of greatness (as we all know), why is he writing this ?........................this is just meaningless schmalzz for me, devoid of any depth, just a little catchy tune with a little hook "All My Life...".........Im sorry Paul, like the other little ditty you wrote with your uke 'Everybody Gonna Dance Around' this is throwaway.
Beatle-esque yes, but seriously lacking any meaning or depth. (a trait sadly shown frequently in your solo years)
I dont even like the (what sound like) synthesised instruments, cant hear any guitar or real drums, just machinery thats been programmed in Pro Tools (Computer programme), the handclaps dont sound at all real either, too 'perfect' and robotic, no doubt a Pro Tools plug in.......(maybe thats painful memory for Paul when Stevie Wonder told him his handclaps were out of time during the recording of Ebony & Ivory)
I suppose Id like Paul to work harder on his songs, especially the words !!, Id have preferred this with an acoustic (real) guitar and some Ringo-esque drumming and an inventive bass line, McCartney style. (Im a sucker for The Beatles)  ha2ha

PS....If you like it, take no notice of me.

'New' is like 'A Fine Line' off of Chaos and Creation for me. Its not pretending to be a masterpiece (something your hoping for Kev or even expecting), but its an inoffensive song with a decent beat. Thats all. Its not going to make any of his Greatest Hits albums for sure, but its just a little nibble for the upcoming album. If we get lucky, it'll also share the same results as 'A Fine Line' and end up being the worst song on the record. We will see soon enough.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Dcazz on September 06, 2013, 05:17:40 PM
well the Beatles did split up years ago  ha2ha

I wasnt going to comment as I dont really want to be negative, but I hate the damn thing, Barry is right it does have the 'vibe' of Penny Lane, the rhythmic tempo and hanclaps and the melody in parts is kinda similar.
Penny Lane though was a truly great song, both lyrically and melodically, Paul wrote some damn fine lyrics on PL, describing his suburb, you almost felt like you were there, a kind of musical painting/tapestry of imagery and sounds.......so he's capable of greatness (as we all know), why is he writing this ?........................this is just meaningless schmalzz for me, devoid of any depth, just a little catchy tune with a little hook "All My Life...".........Im sorry Paul, like the other little ditty you wrote with your uke 'Everybody Gonna Dance Around' this is throwaway.
Beatle-esque yes, but seriously lacking any meaning or depth. (a trait sadly shown frequently in your solo years)
I dont even like the (what sound like) synthesised instruments, cant hear any guitar or real drums, just machinery thats been programmed in Pro Tools (Computer programme), the handclaps dont sound at all real either, too 'perfect' and robotic, no doubt a Pro Tools plug in.......(maybe thats painful memory for Paul when Stevie Wonder told him his handclaps were out of time during the recording of Ebony & Ivory)
I suppose Id like Paul to work harder on his songs, especially the words !!, Id have preferred this with an acoustic (real) guitar and some Ringo-esque drumming and an inventive bass line, McCartney style. (Im a sucker for The Beatles)  ha2ha

PS....If you like it, take no notice of me.
I feel pretty much the way you Nimrod. I don't hate it but it doesn't do much for me. There are similarities to PL, noted. The synthesized instruments and somewhat immature chorus, "we can do what we want to do" lose me. he must have reverted to singing to teenagers again.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: nimrod on September 07, 2013, 12:22:47 AM
Yes, perhaps 'hate' was too strong a word Dave (said in the heat of p*ssed offedness) :D

I dont hate it as such but I always get frustrated with Paul that he seems to have no 'quality gauge' and frequently seems out of step with his musically aware audience, his audience are a musical lot, many many of them have been around since the 60's and are not in the main...teenagers to whom lyrics are ok if they are sugary.

Ive just read the Howard Sounes book about his life and he quotes others saying the same about Paul, and alluding to Paul not putting in the extra 15% effort in his work .......(the 15% that can transpose a work from good to great) and having too many sidemen who will simply tell him something is great (even if thats not what they really feel), too many people he works with who are more than happy to put his name on their resume and dont want to get the cold shoulder.

I take these books with a pinch of salt, however they can be a useful tool for explaining things you may yourself have percieved.
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Post by: Dcazz on September 07, 2013, 03:28:06 AM
Yes, perhaps 'hate' was too strong a word Dave (said in the heat of p*ssed offedness) :D

I dont hate it as such but I always get frustrated with Paul that he seems to have no 'quality gauge' and frequently seems out of step with his musically aware audience, his audience are a musical lot, many many of them have been around since the 60's and are not in the main...teenagers to whom lyrics are ok if they are sugary.

Ive just read the Howard Sounes book about his life and he quotes others saying the same about Paul, and alluding to Paul not putting in the extra 15% effort in his work .......(the 15% that can transpose a work from good to great) and having too many sidemen who will simply tell him something is great (even if thats not what they really feel), too many people he works with who are more than happy to put his name on their resume and dont want to get the cold shoulder.

I take these books with a pinch of salt, however they can be a useful tool for explaining things you may yourself have percieved.
It's like the cuts on Anthology that are a step or two from being really good finished songs only during the Beatle years he had the energy and other Beatles to work it out to the end. Here it just seems like he settled for OK. I do give him credit though at his age.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 07, 2013, 08:19:58 AM
I still think thats why I like Chaos and Creation so much. Godrich wasnt afraid to tell him when something wasnt good enough. There's no masterpieces from those sessions, but I thought the whole album was solid as hell. No Godrich and you get a Memory Almost Full.

You guys are right, Paul needs somebody to reign him in once and awhile.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Dcazz on September 07, 2013, 11:30:46 AM
I still think thats why I like Chaos and Creation so much. Godrich wasnt afraid to tell him when something wasnt good enough. There's no masterpieces from those sessions, but I thought the whole album was solid as hell. No Godrich and you get a Memory Almost Full.

You guys are right, Paul needs somebody to reign him in once and awhile.
It is good. I think he gets it righter when he's got something inside, in this case his divorce. You can hear his pain. I think Paul might be an outside in kind of guy and when he has something inside that's important it comes out well in his music. Other wise it's good pop!
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on September 08, 2013, 12:56:09 AM
I think he can do what he wants. It's inoffensive, sugary in a similar vein to "Listen To What The Man Said". If it had been a Jenny Wren for instance, or no doubt another darker lyric from the "New" album we'd be moaning about it not being commercial or some such other nonsense. In another 50 years when, most likely, we'll be looking back on a book ended career the "New" song probably wont be as high up there as many but it's nice to hear something as up as this.

He hasn't sounded quite so cocky in a while.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: nimrod on September 08, 2013, 01:47:23 AM
I still think thats why I like Chaos and Creation so much. Godrich wasnt afraid to tell him when something wasnt good enough. There's no masterpieces from those sessions, but I thought the whole album was solid as hell. No Godrich and you get a Memory Almost Full.

You guys are right, Paul needs somebody to reign him in once and awhile.

I must grab a hold of C & C Todd, Ive heard you say its a good one before mate.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 08, 2013, 02:12:59 AM
I must grab a hold of C & C Todd, Ive heard you say its a good one before mate.

I think you would like it Kev. Its not like his usual albums. I consider it his 'Mature' album. Its a personal record thats kind of like a stripped down 'Flowers In The Dirt'. Besides 'A Fine Line'. there isnt any fluff trying to impress (AFL was to be the single and its out of place on the album). I still think 'Too Much Rain' is one of the best songs that he's written in the last 20 years, but maybe I just like it for some reason. Give it a listen if you have the time and let us know what you think.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: nimrod on September 08, 2013, 10:37:05 AM
I think you would like it Kev. Its not like his usual albums. I consider it his 'Mature' album. Its a personal record thats kind of like a stripped down 'Flowers In The Dirt'. Besides 'A Fine Line'. there isnt any fluff trying to impress (AFL was to be the single and its out of place on the album). I still think 'Too Much Rain' is one of the best songs that he's written in the last 20 years, but maybe I just like it for some reason. Give it a listen if you have the time and let us know what you think.

ok pal, I'll grab it this week ;)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Dcazz on September 08, 2013, 11:37:53 AM
ok pal, I'll grab it this week ;)
I'm kind of partial to the song "Vanity Fair". I like it's arrangement.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 09, 2013, 12:32:47 AM
I'm kind of partial to the song "Vanity Fair". I like it's arrangement.

Lol. Thats probably my least favorite Dave, but no worries. Its still a good dig song towards Heather though.  ;D
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Post by: Ovi on September 09, 2013, 09:48:55 AM
Lol. Thats probably my least favorite Dave, but no worries. Its still a good dig song towards Heather though.  ;D

'Riding To Vanity Fair' is incredible, as is the whole album (his best since Tug Of War, no doubt). I'd love to say that the song is Paul at his atmospheric best, but I'm sure Godrich had a lot to contribute to it. The strings slowly ascending and descending, the tinkling celesta, the guitar's tone during the solo - everything comes together perfectly. Todd, you really need to give the song a good listen.

I love 'Chaos and Creation' a whole lot and it's the ultimate proof that McCartney can still pull off something great, all while perfectly comfortable in his own 60/70-year old skin. I was going to post more about the album, but I'll wait until it gets "microscoped" (if we're still doing Paul...).

I'd love the new album to be as good as Chaos. 
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 10, 2013, 09:51:57 AM
'Riding To Vanity Fair' is incredible, as is the whole album (his best since Tug Of War, no doubt). I'd love to say that the song is Paul at his atmospheric best, but I'm sure Godrich had a lot to contribute to it. The strings slowly ascending and descending, the tinkling celesta, the guitar's tone during the solo - everything comes together perfectly. Todd, you really need to give the song a good listen.

Alright, i'll give it another listen.

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I love 'Chaos and Creation' a whole lot and it's the ultimate proof that McCartney can still pull off something great, all while perfectly comfortable in his own 60/70-year old skin. I was going to post more about the album, but I'll wait until it gets "microscoped" (if we're still doing Paul...).

Yeah, its a top 5 from Paul for me for sure. I hope we continue with the microscopes. Reminds me, I need to break out the Lennon today.  ha2ha

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I'd love the new album to be as good as Chaos.

For sure. I was really bummed out with Memory Almost Full because it couldn't touch Chaos and I felt Paul took a serious step backwards. Oh well.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on September 12, 2013, 01:03:50 AM
Yes Chaos is very good, some great b-sides from that one too.

Meanwhile I'm pulling the cart again...

Paul McCartney 'New' : Impromptu Acoustic Performance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc6rQMksXXA#)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on September 12, 2013, 07:23:01 AM
Meanwhile I'm pulling the cart again...


Well done Ollie, that was a nice video. Now that wasn't so hard, was it? Carry on!
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 12, 2013, 09:26:13 AM
That was a cool video. Good catch Ollie. I'm pumped for the new album.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on September 12, 2013, 09:28:22 PM
It's just a video fellas' calm down.

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/paul-mccartney-new-album-deluxe-track-listing-revealed/ (http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/paul-mccartney-new-album-deluxe-track-listing-revealed/)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 13, 2013, 12:26:07 AM
It's just a video fellas' calm down.


Did you just tell me to calm down?

(http://media.giphy.com/media/xqwqtsGuYTTm8/200_s.gif)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on September 17, 2013, 09:47:36 AM
Paul McCartney 'New' (Lyric Video) - Album out 14th Oct / 15th Oct [US] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkbbP0ozyMs#)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Yeshelloitsmehereagain on September 22, 2013, 04:34:43 AM
Paul McCartney - Everybody Out There - iHeartRadio Music Festival 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijCQeszziXw#)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 22, 2013, 09:03:41 AM
I like that song a lot. I like it much better then 'New'. I cant wait for this record. I hope its good. So far so good anyways. Thanks again Ollie.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 22, 2013, 11:57:09 PM
Found this link, but i'm not listening to anymore songs until the album comes out. I dont want to ruin the experience.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/09/video-paul-mccartney-debuts-three-new-songs-at-iheartradio-festival/ (http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/09/video-paul-mccartney-debuts-three-new-songs-at-iheartradio-festival/)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Badgirl66 on September 23, 2013, 04:18:27 PM
 
Deluxe CD Artwork
  (http://img276.imagevenue.com/loc519/th_952785409_AlbumCover_Small_122_519lo.jpg) (http://img276.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=952785409_AlbumCover_Small_122_519lo.jpg)
     
1. Save Us (produced by Paul Epworth)
 2. Alligator (produced by Mark Ronson)
 3. On My Way To Work (produced by Giles Martin)
 4. Queenie Eye (produced by Paul Epworth)
 5. Early Days (produced by Ethan Johns with additional production by Giles Martin)
 6. New (produced by Mark Ronson with additional production by Giles Martin)
 7. Appreciate (produced by Giles Martin)
 8. Everybody Out There (produced by Giles Martin)
 9. Hosanna (produced by Ethan Johns)
 10. I Can Bet (produced by Giles Martin)
 11. Looking At Her (produced by Giles Martin)
 12. Road (produced by Paul Epworth)

Deluxe includes bonus tracks:

 13. Turned Out (produced by Ethan Johns with additional production by Giles Martin)
 14. Get Me Out Of Here (produced by Giles Martin)

 Executive Producers: Paul McCartney and Giles Martin
 Mixed by Mark ‘Spike’ Stent
 Deluxe edition total Running Time: 52:15



 The album was recorded at Henson Recording Studios, Los Angeles; Avatar Studios, New York; Abbey Road Studios, London; Air Studios, London; Wolf Tone Studios, London and Hog Hill Mill, East Sussex.

Artwork information:
 NEW album cover inspired by Dan Flavin with special thanks to Stephen Flavin
 Logo and cover concept: Rebecca and Mike
 Consultancy and design: YES
 Cover Image: Ben Ib
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on September 23, 2013, 05:41:50 PM
I will have to say that the album cover sucks.


Carry on.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: raxo on September 27, 2013, 01:31:16 AM
Review from another forum (in case it's useful):


1) Save Us
After the drum fill, the song starts with fuzz guitar sounds and claps. It's not the just the Ronson-produced tracks that feature percussion effects like we saw in New. The band play this quite faithfully to the album, though this one is more layered and produced and less modern-American sounding (which is Abe's style). As we saw in the live version, the verses are quite a mouthfull for Paul to sing at the fast pace of the song and also the pitch was sometimes a bit off. But here he does it great and in tune, as we could have expected. The bird sounds are less like bird sounds here. Wix ends the song with a keyboard touch live and that is lifted from the album version. There's also a short "Aw" scream by Paul following.


2) Alligator
Next up is Alligator. Luckily the lyrics are nothing like the leaked ones hehe. On Memory Almost Full Paul played it very safe by starting with the two singles and then following with See Your Sunshine. Here we're immediately off to a more experimental place.

The song starts with a Casio keyboard, acoustic guitars, tom fills and nice bass work. The sound is very much one man band Paul. Later on in the song there's the Fixing A Hole harpsichord. The drum sometimes picks up in the song with a fill reminiscent of She's Given Up Talking, though the song is nothing like that. The bridge has some flanging new-age sounds with Paul singing in his Kisses On The Bottom falsetto and the we go back to the song again. Nice song, but one you should hear more often.


3) On My Way To Work
starts with acoustic guitar, Paul singing and very nice bass work. Then a stomp your feet and clap your hands beat comes in ala Freedom and Give Peace A Change, though obviously more understated because of the reflective mood of this great storytelling lyric. Great musical interlude that makes the listener think of the machinery of work. Some part of the melody reminds me of the "rising and falling like snow in the night" line of Chaos B-Side I Want You To Fly.


4) Queenie Eye
Queenie Eye starts of with mellotron, not Wurlitzer. Uncut reviewer is no musician I guess hehe.

Then the song kicks in with the typical McCartney piano chords in eights style ala Monkberry Moon Delight, but really more like I Am The Walrus. Again, the song really has a very solid groove with tambourine and a great backbeat. At the end of the pre-choruses the song takes of with some seemingly random unexpected chords, which are reminiscent of the climbing chords during Uncle Albert's "But the kettle's on the boil and we're so easily called away" or I Am The Walrus. Then the great chorus kicks in with it's mellotron which features the lyrics "O-U-T spells out, that's out" (straight out of Christmastime is here again!) with a backing vocal repeating out which is very reminiscent of The Rutles' Piggy In The Middle or I Am The Walrus. The bridge is very small again, with some dreamy Wurlitzer and falsetto singing. Same formula as in Alligator really! Funny how this song is also procuded by Paul Epsworth, you wouldn't expect that. It's nothing like Adele. Then the chorus kicks in again. Great song! Don't expect an I Am The Walrus though. Have fair expectations of 2013 Paul.


5) Early Days
A very pretty, folky song with a very reflective and personal lyric for Paul. Ethan Johns is at work here and it shows, he knows how to make acoustic guitar sound amazing. Later on a harmonium and capoed second acoustic come in and it really feels like we're listening to a Johnny Cash' American Recordings approach. Very pretty. Some sparse snare and shakers, but mostly just the guitars and instruments setting a mood. The last verse has the great lyric:

Now everybody seems to have their own opinion
on who did this and who did that.
But as for me,
I don't see how they can remember.
When they weren't where it was at.
They can't take it from me if they tried.
For I lived through those early days.
So many times I had to change
the pain to laughter,
just to keep from getting crazed.

Phew! What a track!


7) Appreciate
Huh? Is this Giles Martin producing? It sounds very modern, with a hiphop computer beat. You would expect this to be Mark Ronson's work. It's almost a Invincible Michael Jackson like track, but with a white guy doing it with a lot less funk and soul. This is McCartney trying to remain relevant and current. I don't really like it, especially productionwise. Though we have to applause Paul for having such broad tastes.


8 ) Everybody Out There
I've already grown to love this song through the live version, so it's very cool to hear this one. Save Us Now, Everybody Out There and New are very obvious choices for the live set in the context of the record.

I didn't note the tambourine as much in the live version, nice little touch.


9) Hossanah
Starts with some backwards tape loops ala How Kind Of You and a little We're Open Tonight like guitar snippet. Then he starts strumming and singing.

Lyrics go something like if I remember correctly:

Come now lady
Don't you do me wrong
I fell for you
and now it won't be long
Before I hold you in my arms
Before I take you to my heart again

Time is flying by us everyday
I want to show my love in everyway
I wanna hold you in my arms
I wanna take you to my heart again

The song has something mysterious about in the same way Electric Arguments' Traveling Light was mysterious. It's funny we've been talking about Why So Blue quite a bit lately on this thread. A lot of souls have Paul strumming and singing exactly in that style.

This one is an Ethan Johns production again and it's thus a great production. Ethan produces with real heart and soul. There's more depth to his productions than Paul Epworth's for example I guess.

This song is not the standout we thought it could be, but it's still a pretty album track that I need to hear more often to really get a better opinion on.


10) I Can Bet
This is one of the songs that stick in your brain the easiest of all the songs, in the same way New, Safe Us and Everybody Out There do.

The song starts with like Ringo's Free As A Bird drum intro, but then something like 10 snare hits instead of two. The song is built around Rhodes, acoustic guitar, bass and drums and some electric guitar lines. It's classic McCartney power pop and very instant, yet taking surprising turns. For some reason the songwriting reminds me of Keep Under Cover/No Values/Not Such A Bad Boy-era. Less rock, more powerpop. Nice moog solo!


11) Looking At Her
Song starts with electric guitar and a computer beat. Surprised since it's not the first Giles Martin produced track with an electronic drum loop. Paul singing in falsetto mood. There's a great hook where Paul sings "I'm losing my mind" and then a wall of Coldplay-like synths kick in. Underneath or behind the quite modern production lies a very pretty song with a very nice melody and cool chords. I think I will grow to love this one on repeated listens and wasn't able to catch all it has to offer in one listen.


12) Road
I didn't have the time to hear all of this song, since we only had a couple of minutes left and I wanted to hear Scared real badly. This track wouldn't be out of place on Electric Arguments. It would fit really well on the second half of the album between the more dreamy bits. Paul is singing in falsetto mode again. Some sentence went "I can't see anymore" and another "I'm going blind". The lyrics on this album and this track show the more reflective and personal side of Paul he's been showing more and more since Flaming Pie.


13) Scared
One think you might have noticed in my song reviews is that there are no traditional big McCartney piano ballads on this albums. Finally, here is a piano ballad. And what an amazing ballad it is. Very understated, very sparse production. Classic McCartney. This is a very personal song about Nancy and him. From the review and what I remember of the words. Since it was the last song I heard, immediately after our meeting I wrote down what I could remember.

I'm scared to say I love you
Afraid to let you know
That the simplest of words
won't come out of my mouth
Though I'm dying to let them go
Trying to let you know

I have to say I'm sorry
Don't feel sad for me
But the beautiful words
won't fly out of their cage
Though I'm trying to set them free
Trying to let you see
How much you mean to me

I remember the first time we met
Tears in our eyes reflecting
Something connecting
From so long ago
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 27, 2013, 01:56:30 AM
Gracias, amigo.

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Badgirl66 on September 27, 2013, 04:41:48 AM
13) Scared is not on the deluxe Europe(USA)

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Paul McCartney “New” bonus track strictly for Japan called “Struggle” produced by Giles Martin. "Struggle" apparently replaces "Scared," which was listed through Walmart at one point. And his fans on his official website have voiced complaints about the bonus tracks available on different releases. The track will likely be very available on the internet. (Don't miss our coverage of McCartney's "New" album, the most complete anywhere, begins here.)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: raxo on October 06, 2013, 04:15:23 AM
Everybody can get these 6 tracks (of course, this is meant for a prelisten, as you will understand ;) ):

1. Save Us (produced by Paul Epworth)
4. Queenie Eye (produced by Paul Epworth)
5. Early Days (produced by Ethan Johns with additional production by Giles Martin)
6. New (produced by Mark Ronson with additional production by Giles Martin)
8. Everybody Out There (produced by Giles Martin)
10. I Can Bet (produced by Giles Martin)

here! (http://tbf.me/a/BFlzgw)

P.D. If it doesn't work, PM me  ;)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on October 07, 2013, 11:14:29 AM
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Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: raxo on October 07, 2013, 01:27:29 PM
No problem:

P.D. If it doesn't work, PM me  ;)


Already got them now? Check your PM  :)




By the way, some people has listened to the whole album and ...

'On My Way To Work' snippet http://instagram.com/p/fJlMcwy5k0/# (http://instagram.com/p/fJlMcwy5k0/#)
Different samples of 'Alligator'  http://instagram.com/p/fJkpbIS5j_/# (http://instagram.com/p/fJkpbIS5j_/#)  and  http://instagram.com/p/fJwlFwDchL/ (http://instagram.com/p/fJwlFwDchL/)


ALLIGATOR
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I want someone to come home to
I need somewhere I can sleep
I need a place where I can rest my weary bones
and have a conversation not too deep

Everybody else is busy doing better than me
But I can see why it is
They got someone setting them free
Someone breaking the chains
Someone let me be

I want someone who can save me
When I come home with a zoo
I need somebody who's a sweet communicator
I can give my alligator to

Everybody ...??? a whole day talkin' about
And I can see why it is
They got someone breaking them out
Someone finding the key
Someone setting them free

Could you be that person for me?
Would you feel right setting me free?
Could you dare to find my key?

I want someone I can ... ???
When I come home to my troops
I need somebody who's to deal it with my sailor ... ???

Everybody else is busy doing better than me
And I can see why it is
They got someone setting them free
Someone breaking the chains
Someone letting them be

Could you be that person for me?
Would you feel right setting me free?
Could you dare to find my key?

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on October 07, 2013, 05:31:18 PM
No problem:

Already got them now? Check your PM  :)


I did. Thanks for the prelisten.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: raxo on October 09, 2013, 03:53:11 PM
samples: http://www.allmusic.com/album/release/new-mr0004032001 (http://www.allmusic.com/album/release/new-mr0004032001)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Badgirl66 on October 09, 2013, 04:11:57 PM
my deluxe copy Comes tomorrow thanks folks party2 cheer1 partypeople
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: YetAnotherNewUserName on October 09, 2013, 09:26:13 PM
Can someone send me the pre-listen? Then send my change password option of my previous account to the email address of this account?

Thanks.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on October 09, 2013, 09:46:42 PM
Can someone send me the pre-listen? Then send my change password option of my previous account to the email address of this account?

Thanks.

Depends. Who are you? The one I think you are?
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: YetAnotherNewUserName on October 09, 2013, 10:05:22 PM
Yes it's Ollie.

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on October 10, 2013, 07:32:54 AM
Yes it's Ollie.



Sent to your meadows-emailaddress.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Badgirl66 on October 10, 2013, 08:52:41 AM
so i heard the last track from deluxe    ;yes party2 cheer1 partypeople

Surprised Number 15 is Scared
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: raxo on October 10, 2013, 02:35:18 PM
Everybody can get these 6 tracks (of course, this is meant for a prelisten, as you will understand ;) ):

1. Save Us (produced by Paul Epworth)
4. Queenie Eye (produced by Paul Epworth)
5. Early Days (produced by Ethan Johns with additional production by Giles Martin)
6. New (produced by Mark Ronson with additional production by Giles Martin)
8. Everybody Out There (produced by Giles Martin)
10. I Can Bet (produced by Giles Martin)

here! ([url]http://tbf.me/a/BFlzgw[/url])

P.D. If it doesn't work, PM me  ;)


This time, the real thing: 1 (http://freakshare.com/files/m7v9ewfq/Paul_Mccartney-New_Deluxe_Edition-2013.zip.html) or 2 (http://www.ultramegabit.com/file/details/eVbZfnBCFak)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: KeepUnderCover on October 13, 2013, 02:24:53 PM
I really like the direction Paul has been heading in since Flaming Pie. This album is like a mesh between Flaming Pie and Driving Rain, which are my two favorite Paul albums.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Badgirl66 on October 13, 2013, 02:29:00 PM
I really like the direction Paul has been heading in since Flaming Pie. This album is like a mesh between Flaming Pie and Driving Rain, which are my two favorite Paul albums.

Indeed ;yes
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on October 14, 2013, 04:01:11 PM
I just hope its not another 'Memory Almost Full'. I hate to say it, but i'm already sick of the song 'New' and that might not be a good thing. I've heard to other songs and really liked them though. Cant wait for the record to come out.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: raxo on October 15, 2013, 09:10:31 AM
Paul McCartney - Struggle "NEW" JAPANESE EDITION (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orq7PYUT3nQ#)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on October 15, 2013, 11:18:10 AM
Any opinions on the album?
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Klang on October 15, 2013, 05:48:04 PM

I like it a lot. Very rich instrumental textures. Better vocals than I expected. Some smart lyrics. The whole package for me. I'm won over.

 :)

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on October 16, 2013, 12:05:53 AM
Just ordered the Deluxe Copy. Hope I like it.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on October 16, 2013, 02:54:46 AM
Just had my first listen, unfortunately it was in the car while driving, not the best system.

Initial thoughts are mixed, I think the writing is good, not any throw always in my opinion.

I do feel the entire album feels over produced, too much noise, too many layers.  Very few "clean" moments, would have liked more. 

Whether it was intentional because of the "modern" producers chosen or intentional to mask Paul's more fragile voice I don't know.  The vocals were more in the background than I can ever remember for a Paul album.

Despite my negatives above, the writing is strong and I do like it but wonder if the same songs could have translated slightly differently and been better?
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: KelMar on October 16, 2013, 06:59:30 AM


Paul McCartney 'New' : Impromptu Acoustic Performance

I'm playing catch-up here but just have to say that this is a neat video. Paul is still fun after all these years.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on October 16, 2013, 08:34:53 AM
After one listen I'm not so sure. There isn't much I'm eager to relisten. I will tho.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on October 17, 2013, 11:50:18 AM
Just heard the first five songs (in order) off a cd in the car and I may have to retract my statement above.  Those first five songs seemed more clear/clean to me.  Will need to complete the cd listen and compare to the mp3s I was sent.

On my way to work is hilarious from a guy that never "worked" and certainly never took a bus after initial success.  Really like the song.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Klang on October 17, 2013, 03:20:23 PM

My first listen was low volume through speakers as I was multitasking, and it seemed just OK. My next listen with headphones really woke me up and I liked it a lot more.

 :)

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Badgirl66 on October 17, 2013, 03:39:24 PM
JA KLang es liegt immer daran was man für eine Anlage hat
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on October 18, 2013, 08:53:18 AM
I'm not sure about the second half. I Can Bet is a great song, but the rest on the 'b-side'?
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on October 18, 2013, 02:39:44 PM
I just got my copy in the mail. I'll listen to it in the car on the way to work.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 18, 2013, 07:44:09 PM
Paul played an unannounced 5-song set at Covent Garden at lunchtime today.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on October 19, 2013, 12:21:10 AM
I listened to the CD on the way to work today and my opinion,,,,,,,its lousy. Bummer. I was so excited for this record and its going to be a bottom feeder in his collection. There is just nothing memorable on it in my opinion. Its like McCartney 2 part 2. Way to much electronics and effects for me. 'Save Us' is the best song on the record by far and I felt the album took a pretty big dip from 7 on (and I have the 3 bonus tracks). 'Appreciate' and 'Hosanna' are truly awful.

Oh well. I will force myself to listen to it at least 3 or 4 more times, but I dont really want to. Bummer.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on October 19, 2013, 12:35:25 AM
I listened to the CD on the way to work today and my opinion,,,,,,,its lousy. Bummer. I was so excited for this record and its going to be a bottom feeder in his collection. There is just nothing memorable on it in my opinion. Its like McCartney 2 part 2. Way to much electronics and effects for me. 'Save Us' is the best song on the record by far and I felt the album took a pretty big dip from 7 on (and I have the 3 bonus tracks). 'Apprentice' and 'Hosanna' are truly awful.

Oh well. I will force myself to listen to it at least 3 or 4 more times, but I dont really want to. Bummer.

I agree about the electronics and also on Appreciate and Hosanna, might as well add Look at Her too the list.

I do like Alligator, On my way to work, everybody out there, and I can bet.  Queenie Eye has some cool parts but too much production me thinks.  It does grow on you as others have said.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on October 19, 2013, 03:54:57 AM
Yeah, i'm quick to pass judgement. Only one time through so far. My opinion could change, but it probably wont.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on October 19, 2013, 03:00:58 PM
The more I listen, the more I wonder if having 4 producers working with him was good or bad.  Seems each had him go with his falsetto or muted vocals which, IMO, piles up too frequently on an album.  If there was one producer would there have been as much?

Maybe it was Paul's doing, with his aging voice, maybe he is trying to do what he can but I would think in a studio environment you could belt them out at your own pace.

I may be way off, but the multitude of falsetto or muted vocals stands out to me as a downer.

Save Us- like a lot

Alligator- one of my favs on the album

On my way to work - very close to being my favorite, just short, missing some more energy in a middle section or something, missing a change of tempo ever so briefly

Queenside Eye- like this a lot

Early Days - I go back and forth on this, like it, like it a lot and back to just liking it

New - like it more than originally

Appreciate - wouldn't have minded not having it on the album

Everybody out there- like this , better live

Hosanna - bah, take it off

I can bet- probably #1 at the moment

Looking at her- take it off

Road- like it

Turned out- like it

Get me out of here- simple fun, like it
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on October 19, 2013, 11:39:20 PM
I listened to it 3 more times today and i'm done. 'Save Us' is decent enough and 'Everybody Out There' is pretty cool music wise (lyrics are terrible though). I really dont want to listen to it anymore so its going to get retired to the dusty bowels of his catalog right alongside McCartney 2, The Fireman, and Pipes Of Peace.

Glad the rest of you like it.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on October 20, 2013, 12:36:58 PM
I'm a bit disappointed as well. I think Save Us and I Can Bet are truely great songs, but there isn't much between the rest that I'm eager to hear again. Especially the second half of the cd is weak in my humble opinion. What's the reviews saying about the album?
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on October 21, 2013, 12:18:19 AM
I've come to the conclusion that I might like 'Road' the best.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: stevie on October 25, 2013, 10:49:54 AM
 Just saw the Queenie Eye vid today. Love this song! It just sounds great, especially on the headphones.

Love the little references in the vid too - Paul's wearing sandals ( the ones he took off for Abbey Road perhaps?), the Beatles iconic instruments lined up in the studio.  Really cool
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on October 25, 2013, 07:57:11 PM
I think I may have forced myself to like this cd now. It only took about 20 listens though.  ha2ha
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Klang on October 25, 2013, 08:35:37 PM

I was lukewarm my first listen, which came with a lot of outside distractions. Then I threw on the cans and really paid attention, and now I like it a lot.

 :)

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: nimrod on October 25, 2013, 09:36:13 PM
Ive actually bought this album.......this is my favourite track, theres ome good stuff on there.

Paul McCartney - Queenie Eye (Official Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CfLUmVso30#)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on October 25, 2013, 09:46:54 PM
I think I may have forced myself to like this cd now. It only took about 20 listens though.  ha2ha

Congrats on getting over the hill.  I still find myself forwarding off/skipping songs 7,9,11 but otherwise am very happy with the album.

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on October 26, 2013, 12:32:18 PM
Congrats on getting over the hill.  I still find myself forwarding off/skipping songs 7,9,11 but otherwise am very happy with the album.

Yeah those are some weak tracks. I admit though that 'Appreciate' would be the song i'd play at a night club. 'Early Days' is the worst song on the album. Sounds like the pedophile from 'Family Guy' singing. I cant get around that.  ha2ha
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: KelMar on October 27, 2013, 06:59:22 AM
Ive actually bought this album.......this is my favourite track, theres ome good stuff on there.

]Paul McCartney - Queenie Eye


Paul has some really famous friends. Who'd have ever thunk it? LOL I like this song too. I can just picture him as a little kid playing Queenie Eye when I hear it.

'Early Days' is the worst song on the album. Sounds like the pedophile from 'Family Guy' singing. I cant get around that.  ha2ha


Oh great! Now when I hear this song I'll picture Herbert the Pervert! Seriously, though, I was very disappointed with the vocals on this one. I thought the lyrics were good but they were hard for me to enjoy.

http://www.contactmusic.com/story/paul-mccartney-defends-beatles-on-early-days_3911963 (http://www.contactmusic.com/story/paul-mccartney-defends-beatles-on-early-days_3911963)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on October 27, 2013, 01:51:01 PM
Wish there was more storytelling in the album
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: ibanez_ax on October 27, 2013, 09:18:15 PM
I listened to it once on Mog and honestly don't feel compelled to listen again although I might. His voice is shot and yeah, too much electronics.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: KelMar on October 27, 2013, 10:46:00 PM
too much electronics.

Yeah, the songs with all the heavy electronics stuff don't do much for me either.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Frightwolf on October 30, 2013, 09:13:10 PM
Early Days is wonderful.  Last part of the album doesn't seem as solid (I had a similar issue with Electric Arguments), but the first eight or nine tracks I really dug.

Will have to listen more to feel this album out.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Sir John Johns on October 31, 2013, 02:14:40 AM
been listening to this constantly since it came out. I must say I find it pretty strong, there isn't a track I skip over. I can't wait to get the vinyl version.

I Can Bet has grown on me, and has become my favourite track. Other highlights for me are Alligator, Appreciate, Road, Queenie Eye, On My Way To Work, Early Days, Turned Out & Scared
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on October 31, 2013, 10:00:08 AM
Nice to see some members returning as Paul is releasing new stuff. ;)
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Kaleidoscope_Eyes on November 10, 2013, 09:31:59 AM
Nice to see some members returning as Paul is releasing new stuff. ;)
Oh Bobber.....!

But yea good on Paul for releasing a new album! I remember I made plans to listen to the fireman cd and kisses on the bottom but I never did... Whoops
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on November 10, 2013, 12:44:53 PM
I remember I made plans to listen to the fireman cd and kisses on the bottom but I never did... Whoops

Be thankful you didnt waste your time.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Sir John Johns on November 12, 2013, 04:04:01 PM
I didn't but Kisses either, Rod Stewart singing (and sounding like a Grandma) put me off 'Standards' albums. The Fireman albums are very enjoyable though, especially Electric Arguments.

Be thankful you didnt waste your time.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on November 13, 2013, 06:25:03 AM
The Fireman albums are very enjoyable though, especially Electric Arguments.


(http://anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/nixweiss.gif) Ehhh, I hate them, but to each their own.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on December 17, 2013, 02:37:45 PM
Is it me, or has this album already fallen off the side of a cliff, never to be heard from again?
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Ovi on December 17, 2013, 03:07:01 PM
Is it me, or has this album already fallen off the side of a cliff, never to be heard from again?

You mean commercially? If yes, I cannot answer that as I'm not really aware of charts and stuff like that. But among music fan groups, it's still getting praise I think, even making "best albums of 2013" type of lists. In fact, just recently I saw someone on a forum calling it the best thing he's done since Tug Of War.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on December 17, 2013, 08:59:14 PM
You mean commercially? If yes, I cannot answer that as I'm not really aware of charts and stuff like that. But among music fan groups, it's still getting praise I think, even making "best albums of 2013" type of lists. In fact, just recently I saw someone on a forum calling it the best thing he's done since Tug Of War.

Cool. I belong to a bunch of music forums and nobodys talking about it anymore except for the few that added it to their list of most disappointing records of 2013. Eh, just havent heard anything about it in some time. Its alright to me now, but nothing more.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: nimrod on December 17, 2013, 09:28:25 PM
Is it me, or has this album already fallen off the side of a cliff, never to be heard from again?

It's definitely very forgetable
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: jamesbjorkman on December 18, 2013, 04:11:52 AM
Is it me, or has this album already fallen off the side of a cliff, never to be heard from again?

My local college radio station plays several tracks from it. It hasn't been forgotten, at least by them. Can't say I think any of the songs are stellar, but they are pleasant enough and inoffensive, even a bit catchy if not memorable once the song is over.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Sir John Johns on December 18, 2013, 04:23:05 AM
It hasn't been forgotten by me, or by people on the Steve Hoffman forum.

Just listening to the vinyl pressing, so far it's a very pleasant experience, which really opens up the nuances of the tracks, I may delete the cd rip and needle drop this puppy.


Is it me, or has this album already fallen off the side of a cliff, never to be heard from again?
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on December 18, 2013, 05:10:59 PM
It hasn't been forgotten by me, or by people on the Steve Hoffman forum.

Not familiar with the Steve Hoffman forum. Might have to check that one out.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Ollier on May 17, 2014, 01:12:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpxdtWJAfSY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpxdtWJAfSY&feature=youtu.be)

WTF goes through this Man's brain?
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Fab4Fan on May 17, 2014, 07:41:15 PM
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpxdtWJAfSY&feature=youtu.be[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpxdtWJAfSY&feature=youtu.be[/url])

WTF goes through this Man's brain?


What do you mean?  Please elaborate.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 17, 2014, 10:15:14 PM
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpxdtWJAfSY&feature=youtu.be[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpxdtWJAfSY&feature=youtu.be[/url])

WTF goes through this Man's brain?


Well here's another clue for you all, the robot was Newman.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 08, 2014, 02:29:12 AM
Paul sent me this video of Early Days earlier this evening...


Paul McCartney 'Early Days' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvBVIA_ZaNg#ws)


I love when he gets nostalgic.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on November 10, 2015, 09:11:00 AM
Is it me, or has this album already fallen off the side of a cliff, never to be heard from again?

Listened to it again today since long. Still not good. Save Us and I Can Bet are two only two songs I really like.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on November 10, 2015, 12:22:24 PM
I still enjoy most of the songs on it.  Alligator remains my favorite.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on November 11, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
Listened to it again today since long. Still not good. Save Us and I Can Bet are two only two songs I really like.

Yeah, its a stinker
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Badgirl66 on November 11, 2015, 01:18:16 PM
It's time to say Goodbye Paul... ;sorry So many Live Show ruins your Voice
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Bobber on November 11, 2015, 04:41:16 PM
It's time to say Goodbye Paul... ;sorry So many Live Show ruins your Voice

I think he will continue doing what he's doing for as long as he can. Which is wonderful in itself. Lots of people enjoy seeing Paul live on stage. But maybe, yes, is it time to lean back just a little bit. Take more time for his things. Why should he tour so much? Why not just pick a couple of nice gigs?

His songwriting on New is certainly not his best in my humble opinion. The fact that a lot of production and effects was needed, shows me that the songs in itself are not so strong. The songs that lack these effects are the best songs on the album.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Badgirl66 on November 11, 2015, 04:56:42 PM
Exactly, and if he is no longer in studio so then he is LIVE not really better .

I buy myself a new studio albums only because the gathering not because of his voice.

my Most Money is only for the Archive Series important now
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on November 11, 2015, 05:49:14 PM
I am looking forward to his next album, if it is at all like New I would be happy.  Is it my favorite?  Nope.  I enjoy it though because I wasn't bench marking it against whatever I consider his best work, that isn't really how you listen to music is it?  I hope not.   I listen and enjoy it for how it makes me feel.  The melodies, lyrics and production all are fine for me, better than most everything I hear being published in rock/pop.

As for touring, I have been hoping the next list of cities gets published soon and hope Atlanta is on it so i can see him for the 8th or 9th time (need to count).  Love seeing him and enjoy the show.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on November 13, 2015, 01:53:45 PM
I enjoy it though because I wasn't bench marking it against whatever I consider his best work, that isn't really how you listen to music is it?  I hope not.   

Not at all.  I dont compare any of his albums to his earlier stuff.  Thats kind of silly isnt it?  I dont think anybody expects him to do a 'Band On The Run' everytime he releases an album.  I listen to the album and decide if I like it or not.  If I do,,,,great.  If I dont,,,,oh well.  I didnt like NEW.  Its one of his most forgettable albums in my opinion with no really strong songs to speak of.  I'm only speaking for myself though.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on November 14, 2015, 12:36:14 PM
And I appreciate and support everybody having their opinion.  Same with the collection of people that suggest he stop touring to save his voice.  For what?  Most, I think, agree with your view on his recent song writing, so if so, what do those that want him to stop touring hope to save his voice for?

Maybe I'm in the minority, I find enough on most of his releases to be pleased and love to see him every time he comes through town.  He's what, 73?  I'm more fearful that I've seen him for the last time.  I hope he has another album in him at some point, plus a few more tours.  Can't imagine him being gone, strange days indeed, most peculiar mama.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on November 15, 2015, 01:01:40 AM
I hope he has a few albums left too.  His live shows still draw people and he always seems to deliver, so I have no problems with that either.  I'm done seeing him, but that's purely a financial and 'already been there and done that' type of thing.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Fab4Fan on November 15, 2015, 03:38:29 AM
As for touring, I have been hoping the next list of cities gets published soon and hope Atlanta is on it so i can see him for the 8th or 9th time (need to count).  Love seeing him and enjoy the show.

Hey, I didn't know you live in the Atlanta area. I live in southeast Georgia and my daughter attends college in Atlanta. Maybe if Paul does visit ATL again we can say "hello" to one another at the venue.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on November 15, 2015, 12:34:42 PM
Absolutely.  I would be surprised if he hit Atlanta anytime soon though, I would venture to guess he is trying new venues as he goes out this time.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Mr Mustard on November 30, 2015, 12:23:48 AM
Not at all.  I dont compare any of his albums to his earlier stuff.  Thats kind of silly isnt it?  I dont think anybody expects him to do a 'Band On The Run' everytime he releases an album.  I listen to the album and decide if I like it or not.  If I do,,,,great.  If I dont,,,,oh well.  I didnt like NEW.  Its one of his most forgettable albums in my opinion with no really strong songs to speak of.  I'm only speaking for myself though.

I seem to be coming at this one from entirely the opposite direction. For a start I find it impossible not to compare any album by a former fab with the rest of his output. For me, each of those four lads released - however intermittently - a series of chapters in an evolving continuum of work. I can assess an album on its own standalone merits but I can't regard it as completely isolated.

Obviously there are peaks and troughs along the way, but after the miserable "Driving Rain", the warbly, depressingly timid vulnerability of "Chaos And Creation In The Back Yard" (neither album at all strong on the melody front by and large) or even the catchier and more uplifting "Memory Almost Full", "NEW" is like a blaze of sunlight for me. At least half the tracks are instantly melodic...after the first listen, how could anyone not tap their foot to "Alligator" or "I Can Bet"? The feisty catchiness of the album opener "Save Us" and bouncy, anthemic  singalongs like "Everybody Out There" and "Queenie Eye" would make this a strong, highly accessible radio-friendly collection even without the superbly infectious title track itself, with its Beatley "Penny Lane" vibe which is a joy to behold. Sure there are clunkers on there: "Early Days", "Hosanna" and "Road" are hardly earworms for example but hey, they aren't so bad! By contrast I have to go back to the discs every time just to recall most of the tunes from Paul's previous three or four albums, which I'd regard as much more forgettable than this one.

On a purely selfish level, were I to be given the levers of power over Paul's future career I would have him abandon live tours (his voice is a shadow of what it once was) and jettison the orchestral material, the retrospective/standards and the electronic stuff in favour of concentrating on occasional (no longer any need to try and rush one out every year) polished studio releases like this one.

All just my opinion of course! ;)

   
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on November 30, 2015, 09:01:14 AM
Obviously there are peaks and troughs along the way, but after the miserable "Driving Rain", the warbly, depressingly timid vulnerability of "Chaos And Creation In The Back Yard" (neither album at all strong on the melody front by and large) or even the catchier and more uplifting "Memory Almost Full", "NEW" is like a blaze of sunlight for me. At least half the tracks are instantly melodic...after the first listen, how could anyone not tap their foot to "Alligator" or "I Can Bet"? The feisty catchiness of the album opener "Save Us" and bouncy, anthemic  singalongs like "Everybody Out There" and "Queenie Eye" would make this a strong, highly accessible radio-friendly collection even without the superbly infectious title track itself, with its Beatley "Penny Lane" vibe which is a joy to behold. Sure there are clunkers on there: "Early Days", "Hosanna" and "Road" are hardly earworms for example but hey, they aren't so bad! By contrast I have to go back to the discs every time just to recall most of the tunes from Paul's previous three or four albums, which I'd regard as much more forgettable than this one.

Great post Mr.M.  I need to reply just to share how opposite we kind of are on this subject.  You enjoy Pauls attempts at accessible, melodic, radio friendly type songs and why wouldn't you?  Its what Paul has done his entire career.  Myself, I'm past that and I believe Paul is too. I'm at the point where I wish Paul would just let his guard down and be himself.  Quit coloring the hair and trying so hard.  An example is 'Queenie Eye' the song.  Paul pimped that tune for so long and hard (playing it on every appearance and making a video with Hollywoods finest A-listers) that it comes across as desperate to me.  It just seems futile.  Of course it didn't stick and nobody remembers it but my point is, although all artists want their work to be displayed, Paul goes that extra mile everytime and its bothersome.  I'm babbling again.

Anyways, I don't want to hear radio friendly, pop music from a 70+ year old man that doesn't do it well anymore.  I know you don't care for 'Chaos and Creation', but I breath a sigh of relief when I listen to it.  An album where Paul finally appears to be vulnerable and writing songs in accordance to his maturity.  I thought it was brilliant and something different from Paul that we haven't heard since probably the 70's.  Not one song is a classic on the album and that's fine as I don't feel he was trying to write one or impress the younger audience.  I liked the path that Paul was taking.  You can only imagine my disappointment when 'Memory Almost Full' came out.  Back to his usual self.

By the way, 'Road' is my favorite song on NEW.  See how different we are?  Peace 

 
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Moogmodule on October 30, 2016, 09:23:05 AM
I've started listening to this album. Overall I'm quite liking it. It's a bit glossy in parts but there's quite a few tracks I'm enjoying. I like the rough vulnerability of Early Days. The limitations of his voice on that track remind me a bit of Johnny Cash's last album. The title track is bouncy pop rock. On My Way to Work is cute.  The hidden track Scared I find quite poignant and honest. The opening track, Save Us, might come over as a bit try hard, what with the synthesised handclaps and all, but it's lively and engaging.

 I'm wondering if he's integrating some of The Fireman approach into his own albums. Which might be why some songs sound a bit too produced.

All in all quite a credible effort from Paul.

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on October 31, 2016, 01:48:51 AM
I've started listening to this album. Overall I'm quite liking it. It's a bit glossy in parts but there's quite a few tracks I'm enjoying. I like the rough vulnerability of Early Days. The limitations of his voice on that track remind me a bit of Johnny Cash's last album. The title track is bouncy pop rock. On My Way to Work is cute.  The hidden track Scared I find quite poignant and honest. The opening track, Save Us, might come over as a bit try hard, what with the synthesised handclaps and all, but it's lively and engaging.

 I'm wondering if he's integrating some of The Fireman approach into his own albums. Which might be why some songs sound a bit too produced.

All in all quite a credible effort from Paul.

Alligator and Turned Out among the current favorites.  I enjoy the album as a whole.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Loco Mo on December 14, 2016, 07:16:52 PM
I'm a big fan of "Appreciate."  I liked it the first time I heard it and saw the video.  I hope Newman the Robert returns at some point in the future.  I wish he were real!  I like the guitar solo at the end on "Appreciate" a lot.  I've tried to research it but I can't find out if Paul played that solo or not.

I also like "Queenie Eye."  In the video, there's a brief second in which a Linda-lookalike appears, or is that just my imagination?  I really liked that bit because it shows (if deliberate) that Paul is still remembering Linda (from her younger days).

But yeah, it's sad, Paul is old and growing older ...  I can't help but think people are performing with him simply because he's Paul McCartney.  Otherwise, I don't know if anyone would pay any attention to him.  That's what it's like when you're an old guy.  Nobody cares what you do, how smart you are, or anything ...   And young people all think they're smarter than you are no matter what you've been through.  (Note:  i'm an old guy.)

Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: tkitna on March 24, 2020, 04:17:36 PM
Reading back on this thread, I was pretty brutal with my outlook of this album.  My opinion has changed a lot over those years.  I like NEW a good bit now.  Wonder how and why my tastes change so drastically?  Its an interesting and entertaining album that I break out every once in awhile now.  I feel bad that I slagged it like I did.  Still not big on 'Egypt Station' though.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: blmeanie on March 24, 2020, 06:53:26 PM
Reading back on this thread, I was pretty brutal with my outlook of this album.  My opinion has changed a lot over those years.  I like NEW a good bit now.  Wonder how and why my tastes change so drastically?  Its an interesting and entertaining album that I break out every once in awhile now.  I feel bad that I slagged it like I did.  Still not big on 'Egypt Station' though.

I'd guess you, like many of us, have near perfection as where the bar is set, from Beatles days, from certain parts of solo work days.  The general assumption is something new (no pun intended) can't or won't be as good, so you "slagged" it.  (love that description).

Another factor plays into it, if a new album was put out in days before cell phones, before social, before wall to wall information and distractions, you may have listed to it over and over.  Life may have been simpler (not really but you know what I mean). 

Time listening goes a long way on non released songs.  Look at all the songs by any artist that you love that general public never heard before because they were on an album that didn't get radio play.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: nimrod on October 16, 2020, 01:55:58 PM
New, was released 7 years ago this week.

Where does time go ?  ???
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Moogmodule on October 16, 2020, 09:35:35 PM
Scary indeed.
Title: Re: NEW...
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 16, 2020, 10:23:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzDC4284SA0# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzDC4284SA0#)