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Re: Bob Dylan!
« Reply #480 on: May 10, 2014, 07:11:12 AM »

CDs were staggeringly expensive in the 1980s and, with back catalogue LPs by the likes of Love, Dylan and The Doors retailing at £3.49 at that time, it's no surprise that many of us were reluctant to switch.
The Beatles' releases in 1987 being the catalyst for many people to take the plunge, of course, though I didn't until 1997. 

I bought a jobbing, not particularly exciting, Percy Sledge compilation a few years ago from about 1988 for 99p in Oxfam. The original sticker on the CD gave the price as £17.99! 
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« Reply #481 on: May 19, 2014, 10:52:06 PM »

From his upcoming album "Shadows in the Night,"  Bob Dylan covers Frank Sinatra's Full Moon and Empty Arms...


Bob Dylan - "Full Moon and Empty Arms" (Frank Sinatra Cover)



FRANK SINATRA - Full Moon and Empty Arms 1945

Frank Sinatra   1945





It's based on Sergei Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2, 3rd movement...


Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 2, 3rd movement (Part 1)

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« Reply #483 on: May 19, 2014, 11:13:20 PM »

From the Nashville Sessions...


Blue Moon

Blue Moon 2 - Bob Dylan - Nashville Sessions
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« Reply #484 on: May 21, 2014, 04:50:43 PM »

Dylan came over to London in the winter of '62/'63 (the coldest winter on record in the UK!) to do the BBC play and he certainly played some of the pubs/folk clubs in London then, though I don't know if they'd be termed concerts as such.

You won't mind if I knock Dylan doing Sinatra on the head.
I've come this far without ever buying a Sinatra record (apart from Nancy) and I don't plan to start now.
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« Reply #485 on: May 21, 2014, 05:33:50 PM »

You won't mind if I knock Dylan doing Sinatra on the head.
I've come this far without ever buying a Sinatra record (apart from Nancy) and I don't plan to start now.


I don't know why Bob Dylan did that.  Maybe he's going into his Crooning Phase...


   
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« Reply #486 on: May 21, 2014, 09:49:24 PM »

I've come this far without ever buying a Sinatra record (apart from Nancy) and I don't plan to start now.


Ha!


Nancy Sinatra - These Boots Are Made for Walkin' (1966)




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« Reply #487 on: May 22, 2014, 10:28:25 PM »

^

The best part of that video is 0.52 - 0.57    ;)


Yeah, Nancy was cool alright...


It Ain't Me Babe - Bob Dylan (5/4/65) Bootleg



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« Reply #489 on: August 19, 2014, 05:20:16 AM »

The Beatles really did listen to Dylan!



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« Reply #490 on: August 19, 2014, 06:02:13 AM »

More importantly, insofar as the type of songs they chose to cover, they listened to Ben E. King!
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« Reply #491 on: August 26, 2014, 03:33:50 PM »

The Record Industry has, to all intents and purposes, reverted to its dawn of Rock 'n' Roll model of the mid-1950s.

Back then people who listened to expensive classical box sets were heavily indulged by EMI, Decca, HMV etc. but had to pay for it.
Teenagers had to make do with 78s, and later 45s, and the rare LP release by one of their faves.
Now we're in 2014 and the expensive box set principal applies to pop music.

I mention all this because on November 3rd, it's a Monday, THE BASEMENT TAPES finally get released.

38 track versions (The Basement Tapes equivalent of going to the seaside and not going in the sea) are available on vinyl or CD.

The 138 track 6-CD version, i.e. a whopping 100 tracks more, is available for £111.

However, for this release I think I will be shelling out as (a) it's near my birthday (b) next to 'Smile' it's the most important musical release of the 21st Century and (c) there, mercifully, are no 1975 overdubs.   
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« Reply #492 on: August 28, 2014, 07:39:21 AM »

No one going to get this?
It's a bit more interesting, and relevant to The Beatles, than a multiple-CD box set of Wings.
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Re: Bob Dylan!
« Reply #493 on: August 28, 2014, 08:05:49 AM »

No one going to get this?
It's a bit more interesting, and relevant to The Beatles, than a multiple-CD box set of Wings.

I'm pretty tempted.
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« Reply #494 on: August 28, 2014, 11:29:58 AM »


It's a bit more [...] relevant to The Beatles, than a multiple-CD box set of Wings.

How is that?
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« Reply #495 on: August 28, 2014, 03:50:30 PM »

I'm amazed if you don't think it is.

But, if you don't, I'd be even more amazed if you thought 'The Basement Tapes' wasn't a much more worthwhile purchase, even if it is £30 more, than 'Wings At The Speed Of Sound'.
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« Reply #496 on: August 28, 2014, 05:59:56 PM »

It's all a matter of taste I guess. I never cared much for the works of Bob Dylan. I just don't see how Bob Dylan is more relevant to the Beatles than a multiple CD box set of Wings. A pity you don't want to explain that and instead just kill my opinion.
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« Reply #497 on: August 28, 2014, 07:13:55 PM »

The Basement Tapes were made in '67 and via cover versions, The Band themselves making two landmark LPs, and people in the industry (including The Beatles) hearing them on acetate, though one suspects even they didn't hear all 138 tracks, the music of '68 and '69 took a step away from studio trickery to a more organic sound (White Album, Get Back, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Wild Honey etc.).

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They're vital to The Beatles era.
This release is a landmark release.
How often has that happened in the last 30 years? 
The stuff has been heard via official release (notwithstanding the 1975 overdubs) or bootleg is, like The White Album, all over the place, but, frankly, astounding.

Wings albums are...erm...Wings albums. Not bad (possibly), but not vital (definitely).
I'm not wildly sure if anyone even really needs a single CD of them.
I'm absolutely convinced they don't need box sets.
Their only use, I imagine, is to test the water out for the inevitable Beatles equivalent releases in ten years time.   
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« Reply #498 on: August 29, 2014, 01:00:45 AM »

I think both positions are understandable. Some Beatles fans see the solo careers as a continuation of the Beatles history; and other Beatles fans think that the context of the Beatles era is more relevant. I belong to the second group, because I think it's much more interesting the parallel evolution of other bands. I still like some solo stuff, but no more than half a dozen solo records are relevant to me.
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« Reply #499 on: August 29, 2014, 06:08:40 AM »

This may be a peculiarly British point of view but can I just throw in that I believe longevity to be the most over-rated virtue in pop music.
In '67 Dylan didn't represent longevity, even as early as 1975 McCartney did.

Give me short, sharp intense activity (Buddy Holly, Nick Drake, The Beatles, 60s Dylan, Syd era Floyd) over a U2, or indeed a latter Dylan, any day of the week.
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