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Title: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Ovi on October 12, 2013, 04:18:26 PM
This is a very, very simple idea, but since the forum's been kind of silent lately, I thought it might stir up some interesting conversation. I'll name a band/artist, then, whoever posts next has to say whether they like it or not. But no "Yes./No." responses allowed. You have to motivate your answer* and after that, name a new band for the next person.

*If the band in question is among your very favourites, feel free to ramble on and on about how it changed your life or something like that. It'll only make the topic much more interesting.  :)

The Byrds
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 12, 2013, 11:51:58 PM
Im not keen, well ok, I dont like them, theyre too wishy washy for me, songs like 'turn turn turn' and Tambourine Man  for me are boring and a lot of their stuff sounds the same, and has no balls  ;D
jingly jangly ? no thanks !!

The Hollies
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 13, 2013, 02:20:09 AM
The Hollies were in the "first wave" of The British Invasion and I liked them very much for their very distinctive and beautiful vocal harmonies.  Though primarily cover songs, I liked what they did early on beacause of their tight harmonies.  They matured in the mid-60s and gave us a few original classic songs like Bus Stop, Stop, Stop, Stop, and Carrie Anne.  I was disappointed when Graham Nash left the group.  The Hollies lost their bright tenor voice with his departure and it impacted their special harmonies.  I feel they floundered a bit in the late 60s and early 70s, but thankfully had major hits with Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress and The Air That I Breathe.

The Animals


(Nice thread, Ovi!)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 13, 2013, 08:17:01 AM
The Animals - Newcastle - fantastic run of r 'n' b 45s from 'Baby Let Me Take You Home' (released the same month as 'Can't Buy Me Love') through to 'Don't Bring Me Down' (in the same chart as 'Paperback Writer'). 
For sheer verve and emotion, the only group who out r 'n' b-ed them were.....erm.....Them.

The wheels started to come off with Alan Price's departure (Price had secured a writing credit on the 'House Of The Rising Sun' single which was resented by the rest of the group - he earned a fortune!) and he and Burden had successful solo careers, Price even staring in the truly fantastic film 'O Lucky Man' by Lindsay Anderson.

Chas Chandler managed a little known guitarist by the name of Jimi Hendrix, and went on to also manage Slade.

(Can't let The Byrds thread go without saying that 'Younger Than Yesterday' and 'Notorious Byrds Brothers' hold their own with any LP ever made, and don't even start me on 'Lady Friend'!!!!)

Next.....The Zombies.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Ovi on October 13, 2013, 09:15:46 AM
The Zombies truly are one of the best rock's forgotten bands. They started out mainly as a R'n'B cover group, but much like The Who, found their own voice when keyboardist Rod Argent and bassist Chris White started writing songs by themselves. Musically, Argent's jazz-influenced keyboard runs and riffs were always the main attraction, but that's not to say that lead singer's, Colin Blunstone's breathy lead vocals or those tender group vocal harmonies are any less good.

Prompted by the success of 'She's There' - one of the greatest slices of pop perfection of the 60's - the band releases Begin Here (UK)/ The Zombies (US) in 1965. Both versions of the album are all right, but most of the songs kind of pale when put next to the aforementioned She's Not There (OK, to be honest, 'Tell Her No', the band's 2nd single, is very good as well).

From then on, the band's singles fail to even enter the charts, one by one. Argent usually wrote the A-side, while White the B-side. I have all of these singles on a compilation suggestively called 'The Singles: A's and B's (2005)'. Some are great, some good, some mediocre, but the band never really released anything bad as a single, in my opinion. Is This The Dream (1966), Goin' Out of My Head (1967) and Imagine The Swan (1969) are my 3 favourites. The last in particular, is such a sad and heartbreaking harpsichord-driven story of delusion and long-lost love, that it would've fit perfectly on 'Odessey and Oracle'.

Speaking of 'Odessey and Oracle', now this is an album that truly deserves its own thread (oh wait, it actually has one). Remember how I said that The Zombies were at an all-time low commercially? Well, artistically speaking, this is a whole different story. The band kept getting better and better, with each new year. The melodies were more solid, the sounds newer, the moods different and the chart success....still only dreamt of. But that doesn't matter - now, 45 years later and few reunion albums that I've yet to listen to, O&O is regarded as an all-time masterpiece. And deservedly so. Everything comes together on this record, absolutely everything they've ever worked towards achieving. And the songs...wow, pure pop heaven. From the dreamy piano-pop of 'Hung Up On a Dream', to the harmony-explosion of 'Brief Candles', to that fragile beauty of 'A Rose For Emily' and to the shiver-sending horror imagery and power of 'Butcher's Tale'... every single song's a gem and would deserve its own paragraph.

All in all, a masterpiece of an album, but also a very sad one. Each time I listen to it, I can't help but wonder what directions might the band have taken, had it been a commercial success. Sad is the fact that they broke up before even releasing the album. What if they would've topped it? My eyes sparkle at the very thought of that.

The Clash
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 15, 2013, 06:35:06 AM
Please don't consider this part of the link, but if the lack of response suggests a dislike/ignorance of said act, I heartily approve.
If no one answers soon, I really don't mind slagging them off for a couple of hundred words! 

Next.....the clash (still)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 15, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
Please don't consider this part of the link, but if the lack of response suggests a dislike/ignorance of said act, I heartily approve.
If no one answers soon, I really don't mind slagging them off for a couple of hundred words! 

Next.....the clash (still)

I cant answer, punk bands to me are an unknown quantity
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 15, 2013, 11:24:05 AM
Who's The Clash?
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 15, 2013, 11:45:26 AM
Who's The Clash?

:D

might as well as said The Neptunes
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 15, 2013, 01:03:12 PM
The Clash - from a horrible and cheap (now horrible and expensive) part of London - missed the 50s and 60s - dressed like Action Men - in absolutely no danger of having a Top 10 hit until, of course, they did a complete about turn on their pompous and po-faced image, and started selling a brand of US jeans with the dire 'Should I Stay Or Should I Go?'.

Every record they ever made sounds like a demo recording - I hate over-production, but hey!, I don't mind 'some' production!

On a personal note, I have a list of football stadia in London who play 'London Calling' before each match, and I have made a mental note not to go to any of them!

In 2013 they are hugely over-rated by exactly the same people who passed on their records in the 1980s in order to buy Adam Ant, Blondie or Duran Duran.

Next - The Small Faces.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Ovi on October 15, 2013, 01:27:21 PM
Who's The Clash?

:D

might as well as said The Neptunes

Yeah, sure guys, let's all mock the bands we're not familiar with, instead of giving them an open-minded listen.

Every record they ever made sounds like a demo recording - I hate over-production, but hey!, I don't mind 'some' production!

I only own the London Calling album by them, but not a single song on it sounds under-produced to my ears. In fact, if I recall correctly, I think I read the fact that they recorded each instrument in 'Card Cheat' twice to get a bigger, fuller sound. Just saying.

But I really love the album, and consider it to be the White Album/Exile On Main St. of the 80's, with the grab-it-all and try-everything approach. I think many a folks around here would enjoy it. Punk, rock, rockabilly, ska, raggae, ballads, humour - it's all there. Just impressive tunes really, whether or not you care about the message.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 15, 2013, 07:28:50 PM
Sorry, but I did warn you - if I hadn't said something the thread was in danger of finishing altogether!

The Small Faces............
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Ovi on October 15, 2013, 07:43:46 PM
No need to be sorry. I just don't agree that "Every record they ever made sounds like a demo recording". At all. Does Lost In The Supermarket sound under-produced to you? What about The Right Profile? Guns of Brixton? Train In Vain? Rudie Can't Fail? Sorry, I just don't see/hear it. Sounds more like something that a person who never sat down to listen to any of their records properly would say. Somebody whose opinions have more to do with genre preconceptions (punk, in this case), than the music itself. Of course, I could be wrong.  But so far, you haven't presented any arguments to make me believe otherwise.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 16, 2013, 12:00:58 AM
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Yeah, sure guys, let's all mock the bands we're not familiar with, instead of giving them an open-minded listen.

I wasnt mocking them Ovi, I dont know any of theyre records I was referring to Barry's asking who they were, Im not gonna mock a band Ive never heard of mate.

No need to be sorry. I just don't agree that "Every record they ever made sounds like a demo recording". At all. Does Lost In The Supermarket sound under-produced to you? What about The Right Profile? Guns of Brixton? Train In Vain? Rudie Can't Fail? Sorry, I just don't see/hear it. Sounds more like something that a person who never sat down to listen to any of their records properly would say. Somebody whose opinions have more to do with genre preconceptions (punk, in this case), than the music itself. Of course, I could be wrong.  But so far, you haven't presented any arguments to make me believe otherwise.

Are the rules of this thread that you argue with people's comments or not, ?
I thought you just commented on the next band, it seems this way people will get upset if you say someone is rubbish (someone didnt like my comments on The Byrds), can you clarify please Ovi.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on October 16, 2013, 03:15:33 AM
Good thread, Ovi.

The Small Faces... This is a curious case for me because as a huge 60's fan I tend to like them, but they are not among my favorite bands, I could name like 40 artists of that time that I like more than them. Some music critics say that they were a second rate version of the Who, though the Small Faces were more of a Mod band than Pete & friends. I think their music is not bad, but I consider that most of their stuff is mediocre. I like some of their good classic songs like "Itchycoo Park", "Lazy Sunday" and "Tin Soldier", but for some reason I don't love them, there's something about their sound that prevent me from really enjoying them.

So, do I like the Small Faces? I would say yes, I like them. Do I think they were great? Not at all.

Next: Buffalo Springfield
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 16, 2013, 04:41:00 AM
I loved Buffalo Springfield the first time I heard them on the radio.  For What It's Worth was one of our anthems in the late 1960s.  I remember wondering how they came up with their name.  Then, one day in 1968, I noticed this nameplate on a steamroller doing some repaving work on a road by my school...


(http://i39.tinypic.com/md2vsn.jpg)


(http://i43.tinypic.com/24vjioo.jpg)



Cool name for a group!  They didn't last long but they influenced music greatly.



The Tremeloes
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 16, 2013, 04:58:31 AM
:D

might as well as said The Neptunes

Never heard of them either.  Did you mean Uranuses?    ;D
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Ovi on October 16, 2013, 05:42:00 AM
Are the rules of this thread that you argue with people's comments or not, ?
I thought you just commented on the next band, it seems this way people will get upset if you say someone is rubbish (someone didnt like my comments on The Byrds), can you clarify please Ovi.

Well, yeah, the main objective of this thread was to stir up some conversation, rather than everybody just answering "Yeah, I love them" and then move on. Isn't arguing more interesting?
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: KelMar on October 16, 2013, 06:25:03 AM
Please don't consider this part of the link, but if the lack of response suggests a dislike/ignorance of said act, I heartily approve.
If no one answers soon, I really don't mind slagging them off for a couple of hundred words! 

Next.....the clash (still)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: KelMar on October 16, 2013, 06:31:15 AM
Please don't consider this part of the link, but if the lack of response suggests a dislike/ignorance of said act, I heartily approve.
If no one answers soon, I really don't mind slagging them off for a couple of hundred words! 

Next.....the clash (still)

I didn't answer because I was kind of waiting for someone who knew more about them than I do to answer. I am not a big fan of this genre but the few songs that I knew caught my attention at a time (late high school and college) when I was spending all my money on 60's music. I just read the Wiki on "London Calling" and it was interesting. I think I will tap the vast powers of YouTube and see if i like anything else. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.  :)

Next...Crosby, Stills & Nash
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 16, 2013, 06:46:29 AM
I don't apologise for not liking the clash or the era they come from.

The six or seven songs I know ('London Calling', 'Tommy Gun', their colour-by-numbers cover of 'I Fought The Law', 'Rock The Casbah', 'Should I Stay' etc.) have always sounded half-baked to me, and still do.

My main gripe with them was their po-faced slant on everything (one such example being not appearing on Top of the Pops) only to blatantly sell out, more than any other group has ever sold out in history, by plugging American jeans in order to, I'm reliably told, send their kids through public school!

But I did wait until someone else commented, it's just no one seemed to want to!
I'll stick to the groups I like in future.

Next.....Crosby, Stills and Nash.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 16, 2013, 07:40:44 AM
I didn't answer because I was kind of waiting for someone who knew more about them than I do to answer. I am not a big fan of this genre but the few songs that I knew caught my attention at a time (late high school and college) when I was spending all my money on 60's music. I just read the Wiki on "London Calling" and it was interesting. I think I will tap the vast powers of YouTube and see if i like anything else. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.  :)

Next...Crosby, Stills & Nash

hang on Kelley nobodies done Barrys pick yet, The Tremeloes :D
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Ovi on October 16, 2013, 09:00:48 AM
I don't apologise for not liking the clash or the era they come from.

But dude, no one's asking you to! You just made a statement about how EVERY Clash song sounds like a demo, and I disagreed, because it's a stupid thing to say since (as you admitted), you're not familiar with the band beyond the occasional song. Not to mention that it's completely untrue. Hate them all you want, for all I care. I can't change that and I'm not even trying to. In fact, I'm not even that much of a fan. But it was an ignorant thing to say and I just had to argue. Kind of like saying that "all Beach Boys songs are silly surf anthems" or that "Pink Floyd songs are only good when you're stoned". See where I'm coming from?

Anyway, I'll just move on.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Bobber on October 16, 2013, 09:16:32 AM
"Pink Floyd songs are only good when you're stoned"

There is some truth in that statement.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: tkitna on October 16, 2013, 10:08:07 AM
f*** the Clash




Carry on.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on October 16, 2013, 01:21:07 PM
Well, if arguing is allowed I must say something about nimrod's comment about the Byrds! ;D

Im not keen, well ok, I dont like them, theyre too wishy washy for me, songs like 'turn turn turn' and Tambourine Man  for me are boring and a lot of their stuff sounds the same, and has no balls  ;D
jingly jangly ? no thanks !!

I can understand that you find those songs as boring if you don't like the Folk Rock genre, but I don't agree that a lot of their stuff sounds the same, the Byrds are actually one of the most diverse bands ever. They started as jangly folk rockers, but they were also pioneers of psychedelia and Country Rock. The later version of the band even did some Acid and Hard Rock. You can still not liking anything they did, but their music was certainly very varied. Check out Younger Than Yesterday if you want to experience that in just one record.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on October 16, 2013, 01:30:21 PM
(Can't let The Byrds thread go without saying that 'Younger Than Yesterday' and 'Notorious Byrds Brothers' hold their own with any LP ever made, and don't even start me on 'Lady Friend'!!!!)

I agree on Younger Than Yesterday, and in my opinion their other masterpiece was Mr. Tambourine Man, not only because of the music but also because of its importance in rock music. But The Notorious Byrd Brothers is not that good in my opinion; it's another classic Byrds' album, of course, and a must have, but I don't think it's as consistent as the previous four albums. I guess it's usually considered as a masterpiece because it's very psychedelic and experimental, and I like that, but I think that the songwriting is not as strong there.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Ovi on October 16, 2013, 01:32:35 PM
f*** the Clash




Carry on.

You hate punk because it is all about being angry, aggressive, provocative and foul-mouthed. Yet you express your opinion in that very same way. What does this say about you?
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Bobber on October 16, 2013, 02:53:03 PM
Well, if arguing is allowed I must say something about nimrod's comment about the Byrds! ;D

The rule is: no personal attacks. But there's nothing wrong with disagreeing.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on October 16, 2013, 04:11:02 PM
The rule is: no personal attacks. But there's nothing wrong with disagreeing.

Of course, no need to mention that. I was just referring to this thread, as it is intended as a discussion one.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on October 16, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
I remember wondering how they came up with their name.  Then, one day in 1968, I noticed this nameplate on a steamroller doing some repaving work on a road by my school... Cool name for a group!

That name describes perfectly the band and their music!
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: KelMar on October 16, 2013, 07:06:29 PM
hang on Kelley nobodies done Barrys pick yet, The Tremeloes :D
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LOL I should have read the whole thread more carefully. I was multitasking and I don't do that well!  ;)

Well, yeah, the main objective of this thread was to stir up some conversation, rather than everybody just answering "Yeah, I love them" and then move on. Isn't arguing more interesting?

It's a great thread Ovi but no, I don't think the arguing has been more interesting than the positive comments. The positive comments were very well thought out and interesting. Arguing has two definitions:

1. give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory.
or
2. exchange or express diverging or opposite views, typically in a heated or angry way.

If we use definition #1 this will continue to be a great thread. Definition #2 tends to make some people not want to join in and that's the biggest conversation killer of all. So.....

Next: The Tremeloes
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 16, 2013, 09:24:18 PM
Well, if arguing is allowed I must say something about nimrod's comment about the Byrds! ;D

I can understand that you find those songs as boring if you don't like the Folk Rock genre, but I don't agree that a lot of their stuff sounds the same, the Byrds are actually one of the most diverse bands ever. They started as jangly folk rockers, but they were also pioneers of psychedelia and Country Rock. The later version of the band even did some Acid and Hard Rock. You can still not liking anything they did, but their music was certainly very varied. Check out Younger Than Yesterday if you want to experience that in just one record.

Im sure to their fans theyre the best thing since sliced bread, but I saw them in the 70's, I remember songs like 8 miles high, Mr Tambourine Man, Turn Turn Turn, all boring electric folky jangly 3 or 4 chord songs that just plod on with ho highs to get excited about, I almost fell asleep.  Jim McGuinn is a weak singer.
Sorry Byrds fans, I dont like theyre sound or theyre style, mediocre compared to Love. Rock should Rock and have some balls.
Id probably even prefer watching The Clash ;)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on October 17, 2013, 01:26:40 AM
Im sure to their fans theyre the best thing since sliced bread, but I saw them in the 70's, I remember songs like 8 miles high, Mr Tambourine Man, Turn Turn Turn, all boring electric folky jangly 3 or 4 chord songs that just plod on with ho highs to get excited about, I almost fell asleep.  Jim McGuinn is a weak singer.
Sorry Byrds fans, I dont like theyre sound or theyre style, mediocre compared to Love. Rock should Rock and have some balls.
Id probably even prefer watching The Clash ;)

That's all right Kevin, I was just telling you that they were a very diverse band, not everything they did sounds the same.

I guess that trying to get you into the Byrds is like trying to get me into any Prog Rock band! ;D
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: KelMar on October 17, 2013, 01:29:02 AM
Id probably even prefer watching The Clash ;)

Wow Kev, you must really hate the Byrds! I like their jangly sound myself and they were one of the 60's bands that I remember hearing in their day. I even got to help my brother play Mr. Tambourine Man on his guitar. He played the chords and I strummed and that's as far as I ever got as a guitarist. LOL
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 17, 2013, 03:37:43 AM
That's all right Kevin, I was just telling you that they were a very diverse band, not everything they did sounds the same.

I guess that trying to getting you into the Byrds is like trying to getting me into any Prog Rock band! ;D

exactly Hombre ;)

Wow Kev, you must really hate the Byrds! I like their jangly sound myself and they were one of the 60's bands that I remember hearing in their day. I even got to help my brother play Mr. Tambourine Man on his guitar. He played the chords and I strummed and that's as far as I ever got as a guitarist. LOL

Not hate Kelley, just they dont do anything for me, one of the poorest big name live bands Ive ever seen. (in 1971)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 17, 2013, 06:43:16 AM
Ovi

Bizarre to say I don't know much of the clash's stuff (true - I seriously wouldn't want to) when you admit to only owning one of their albums.

Their whole back catalogue can be bought for a third of the price of a match ticket at Arsenal (where, it seems, the half-baked 'London Calling' is a fixture) so, if you're so defensive of them, why don't you have those records? £20 and you'd have them all and be able to comment on all of their songs.

As it transpires, my own knowledge of them - knowing the names of about 20 of their songs and being able to remember how 10 or so of them go - must be WAY AHEAD of the national average! I'd be truly amazed if anyone down my street (and I live in London) could name more.

I'll revise my opinion if it makes you happier.....the tiresome bit of the clash I've heard I don't like. Don't like their era, don't like their image, don't like them. Is that alright? I only did them because the thread had ground to an almighty halt!

Next.....The Tremeloes (I think)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 22, 2013, 06:47:50 AM
OK, let's get this baby back on the road.

Brian Poole & The Tremeloes - the fourth most famous thing to come out of Dagenham in the 60s after motor cars, Dudley Moore and Sandie Shaw.

Still most famous for being the group who beat The Beatles to a Decca contract on 1st January 1962.
(While The Beatles' audition that day has been picked over endlessly, has anyone actually heard the audition tape which beat it? - Has it ever been released?).

Charted with 'Twist & Shout' (ironically a much inferior version to Lennon's - mind, that might be the greatest cover of all time!!!!) and then had a huge hit with 'Do You Love Me?', but the group were cursed with the same problem that Andrew Oldham was so aware might thwart The Rolling Stones' progress - namely, that they didn't write their own material.

Poole went his own way by 1966 -  a common event in the mid-60s (Paul Jones, Wayne Fontana) - and, against the odds, was less successful than the group he left, as The Trems continued to have sporadic hits, some huge, through to the end of the decade.

Next.....Procol Harum.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 22, 2013, 09:13:04 AM
you didnt say whether you liked them ?
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 23, 2013, 01:38:30 AM
I like them!
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 23, 2013, 09:47:59 AM
Oh yeah.
Well, would anyone consider themselves a fan of The Tremeloes?
I'm a fan of their era (and the era when they'd have been teenagers) and if Brian Matthew plays them on a Saturday morning I don't complain.
Mind you, I would love to compare their Decca audition with The Beatles' one.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Bobber on October 23, 2013, 01:09:02 PM

Mind you, I would love to compare their Decca audition with The Beatles' one.


Couldn't find their audition tapes yet. This was their first single on the Decca label:

Brian Poole & The Tremeloes - Twist Little Sister + Lost Love - 1962 45rpm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q8fAVuSb9A#)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 23, 2013, 09:20:05 PM
Couldn't find their audition tapes yet. This was their first single on the Decca label:

Brian Poole & The Tremeloes - Twist Little Sister + Lost Love - 1962 45rpm ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q8fAVuSb9A#[/url])


I've been looking for them too.  I haven't found them yet, but I came up with this interview of Dave Munden by Gary James regarding the 1 January 1962 audition...

Q - Why do you think Decca Records chose The Tremeloes over The Beatles?

A - Well, I think there's probably two reasons. One is the fact that when we did our audition for Decca, I think we were probably a little bit more rehearsed, more professional. We had our music together. Maybe The Beatles weren't totally professional. They never put their tracks together very well, as well as we did. That's maybe one reason. And also, they came from Liverpool. We came from London, which was a lot closer to Decca's studio. And another reason was one of the guys that worked at Decca, a guy called Mike Smith, he was one of the top A&R guys there, he was from Essex! So, I think that might've helped. He lived probably two or three miles from where we lived. So he might've helped to instigate that I think.

Q - Have you heard The Beatles' audition tape?

A - I did hear it a long time ago because our guy Mike Smith had a copy. I think he still has a copy of it somewhere now. So, we did hear it, but there's only vague recollections of it now.

Q - I heard that Paul was very nervous and it showed in his singing.

A - Yeah. I think that's true. That all bears out the story that I've just said to you. It wasn't very good, their audition tape.

Q - Let's say on that day, The Beatles had secured a record deal with Decca and The Tremeloes had been turned down. What would've happened to The Tremeloes?

A - Wow. I guess we probably would have gone to more record companies.

Q - Just like The Beatles did.

A - Yeah. They were in fact turned down by quiet a few companies, not just Decca. They did the rounds of quite a few of the companies. They weren't accepted, so that's what we would've done. We would've just carried on until hopefully we got a record deal of some kind.


Here's the link:  http://www.classicbands.com/TremeloesInterview.html (http://www.classicbands.com/TremeloesInterview.html)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 24, 2013, 05:33:18 AM
That's great, sounds like a good guy.
We always hear about the Decca audition from the point of The Beatles (obviously) but imagine being in the group who beat them to the contract - you could dine out on that for years!
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 24, 2013, 11:56:09 AM
Next.....Crosby, Stills and Nash.

Ahhh memories memories, 18 years old, my mates had an apartment, I couldnt move in as there were no spare rooms but I spent a lot of my life in that place and frequently on the turntable was theyre self titled album, Suite Judy Blue Eyes etc, what a fantastic sound they had and fitted the hippy scene perfectly, I also really liked the follow up which included Neil Young - Deja Vu
Their music seemed to catch a moment in time perfectly (the same can be said of 'America' that other 3 piece acoustic trio) beautiful harmonies, great acoustic guitar playing, I remember my favourite was Steve Stills, I bought his 2 solo albums and the huge Mannasas album, I went to see Mannasas live also, they were terrific.

I havent listened to C S & N for years now, I dont think they appeal as much as then, every apartment owner had to own theyre album for late night listening (along with Leonard Cohen)   ;D

Next...The Moody Blues
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 24, 2013, 02:47:18 PM
Has a group ever fallen more off the critical radar than The Moodies?

NME's (OK, so it was bound to be lousy) latest 'Top 500 LPs of all time' poll doesn't contain one Moody Blues' LP.

I've a theory on this - they're too nice, and they're too successful.
If Justin Hayward had been born ugly (he categorically wasn't!) and had made a living by being surly to the press, arrogant towards his fan-base, and not sold a bean, they'd have about five entries in that list!   

Their early Decca 45s are terrific, with 'Go Now', sung by original vocalist Denny Laine, even getting to No.1 (not a mean feat in '65), but they were unable to follow up on this success.
Ironically, if they'd put the b-side out as a follow-up (the brilliant 'It's Easy Child'), they may have rivalled The Beatles and Stones in the mid-60s.

They toured with The Beatles in '65 (presumably when Paul met Denny?) and put out great 45 followed by great 45, but most flopped.

Denny left to make the INCREDIBLE 'Say You Don't Mind', and the group finally got back on track when an LP, made by Decca to test out their stereo equipment, ('Days Of Future Passed') hit pay dirt, and introduced the world to the sublime, though not as good as 'Say You Don't Mind', 'Nights In White Satin'. 

'Fly Me High', 'Love and Beauty', 'Tuesday Afternoon', 'Ride My See-Saw', 'Watching and Waiting'.....The Moodies are a wonderful group, but destined to always be by-passed, in the UK at least, by the greats (Beatles, Stones etc.) and, more bafflingly, those perceived to be edgier. 

Next.....The Spencer Davis Group.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 24, 2013, 09:01:52 PM
f*** the Clash




Carry on.


Ovi isnt alone with his love of the Clash, this guy rates them the best UK band ever !

http://jimcofer.com/personal/2012/07/24/the-50-greatest-british-bands-of-all-time/ (http://jimcofer.com/personal/2012/07/24/the-50-greatest-british-bands-of-all-time/)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 24, 2013, 11:23:37 PM
I've a theory on this - they're too nice, and they're too successful.
If Justin Hayward had been born ugly (he categorically wasn't!) and had made a living by being surly to the press, arrogant towards his fan-base, and not sold a bean, they'd have about five entries in that list!


I agree with your theory, oldbrownshoe.  I was at this club concert in 1995.  There were just 300 people in the audience and I was sitting at a stageside table in front of Justin Hayward.  He took the time to talk with me a bit between songs...


Moody Blues - Question (Caesars AC 1995) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKjyVNqV5r4#)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 25, 2013, 05:49:42 AM
Yes, there's a two hour documentary on Sky Arts doing the rounds at the moment on the group and there's a segment near the end where they, and in particular Justin Hayward, arrange a meet-and-greet event in a hotel the morning after a concert.
It's free of charge, buffet and wine are on offer, and he's seen moving between fans (ordinary fans, not rich fans) - mainly women! - asking how far they've come to see group etc. 

Funny how the nicest guys are the one's who are marginalised in the 'cool' stakes. Another example is David Essex.
Funny how the absolute b******* are elevated in the 'cool' stakes......Pete Doherty?
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on October 26, 2013, 11:05:16 PM
Yes, there's a two hour documentary on Sky Arts doing the rounds at the moment on the group and there's a segment near the end where they, and in particular Justin Hayward, arrange a meet-and-greet event in a hotel the morning after a concert.
It's free of charge, buffet and wine are on offer, and he's seen moving between fans (ordinary fans, not rich fans) - mainly women! - asking how far they've come to see group etc. 


 ha2ha
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 28, 2013, 02:47:24 AM
Yes, there's a two hour documentary on Sky Arts doing the rounds at the moment on the group and there's a segment near the end where they, and in particular Justin Hayward, arrange a meet-and-greet event in a hotel the morning after a concert.
It's free of charge, buffet and wine are on offer, and he's seen moving between fans (ordinary fans, not rich fans) - mainly women! - asking how far they've come to see group etc.


He knows she's out there somewhere...


The Moody Blues - I Know You're Out There Somewhere (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjImFYf2Vzc#)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 26, 2014, 12:56:17 AM
I'm reviving this thread.  It'a a good one!

Next.....The Spencer Davis Group.


Yeah, I like them a lot!  What a great blues and beat band they were!  I really began listening to them more closely in the late 60s after they charted here with Gimme Some Lovin' and I'm a Man.  By then, I developed an interest in the blues and I borrowed their Second Album LP from a friend during my first year in college in 1968...


The Spencer Davis Group - Second Album (1966) [Full Album] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YS8qQ1KfpM#)


This was one of the albums which led to me taking blues guitar lessons a few years later with Ian Buchanan.  I wanted to learn those guitar riffs in Since I Met You Baby  22:32


You're Gonna Quit Me Baby - Ian Buchanan 1972 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4D-V8a8TuM#) 



In the late 60s and early 70s I saw just how influential their early work was on music and groups during those years.  The blues has always been a strong foundation of rock and roll.

Next:  The Dave Clark Five
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 26, 2014, 07:20:07 AM
The SDG had terrific (mostly instrumental) B-sides, and 'Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush', with a post-Stevie SDG and Traffic, with Stevie!, is one of the great 60s film soundtracks.

Much maligned, (or ignored, due to the shameful lack of CDs on the shop-floor) there's more to the DC5 than first meets the eye.

Mike Smith was a fine all-round sportsman having a trial with Tottenham Hotspur when Tottenham Hotspur (and football, come to think of it) were good, and wasn't Dave Clark a useful boxer?

They had 3 rougher, rockier 45s on Piccadilly in '62, the first two pre-dating 'Love Me Do', before their hits on Columbia.

Indeed, they were the only English group that Mark Lamarr used to play on both his Rock 'n' Roll AND Obscure 60s shows on Radio 2 (before Radio 2 went soft and got rid of Lamarr in preference for big band music and Sinatra), as they also released a whole load of Garage Punk stuff (seriously) in the US in the mid-60s which didn't come out in the UK.

Their success in the US was perhaps greater than the British public realise as their only US No. 1, 'Over and Over', was a hit as late as '65.

And their hits in the UK didn't dry up like some of their contemporaries, the group still charting in the late 60s and early 1970s.

However, their greatest achievement is the magnificent film 'Catch Us If You Can' from '65, which, will transport you straight back to mid-60s London (a good thing) more than any other film I've ever seen, and, believe me, I've looked.

Not as much as The Beatles, not as much as Brian Jones & The Rolling Stones, but I like them.

Next:
Billy Fury

Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 28, 2014, 05:39:40 PM
OK, for those not paying attention, Billy Fury isn't a group (!), so.....
Next: The Pink Floyd.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on April 28, 2014, 10:23:30 PM
He knows she's out there somewhere...


The Moody Blues - I Know You're Out There Somewhere ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjImFYf2Vzc#[/url])


He looks like he forgot where he parked his car  ha2ha
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on April 28, 2014, 10:39:52 PM
OK, for those not paying attention, Billy Fury isn't a group (!), so.....
Next: The Pink Floyd.


Its not 'The Pink Floyd' its just Pink Floyd - like it says on the albums  ;D

(http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/364/cover_1929151082009.jpg)
(http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/364/cover_1942151082009.jpg)


A love hate relationship with me, sometimes I think they were overrated, sometimes I think they were fantastic, THE most successful prog rock band of all time who continued what they did all through the punk era, they have always been proggy, although they did ditch the space prog they were famous for ie Meddle, Saucerful Of Secrets and move away from that.
Dark Side Of The Moon can be considered a classic, a truly monumental album which personally for me is theyre best work, the track, Us & Them is very simple but superb - although I absolutely love Astronome Domine from their first album

They haven't been as good since Roger Waters left imo and theyre trio albums were very patchy, Rick Wright sadly died not too long ago so they can never be re-united
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 28, 2014, 11:13:22 PM
He looks like he forgot where he parked his car  ha2ha


 ;D

Yeah.  He does, doesn't he?

That and their Your Wildest Dreams video were far out...


The Moody Blues - Your Wildest Dreams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmmPFrkuPq0#)



I wish I still had my MGB.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Moogmodule on April 28, 2014, 11:55:52 PM
OK, for those not paying attention, Billy Fury isn't a group (!), so.....
Next: The Pink Floyd.

The Wall was one of those formative albums for me, hearing it when I was 14 or 15 and seriously getting into music. I liked something about most of PFs albums from whatever era, although I stopped buying after Momentary Lapse of Reason. They really weren't Floyd anymore.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Moogmodule on April 29, 2014, 12:02:50 AM

A love hate relationship with me, sometimes I think they were overrated, sometimes I think they were fantastic, THE most successful prog rock band of all time who continued what they did all through the punk era, they have always been proggy, although they did ditch the space prog they were famous for ie Meddle, Saucerful Of Secrets and move away from that.

Would you say The Final Cut was still prog Nim?  To me it sounded a social commentary concept album with more classic rock strains. Not that thats a complaint.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on April 29, 2014, 02:12:45 AM
Would you say The Final Cut was still prog Nim?  To me it sounded a social commentary concept album with more classic rock strains. Not that thats a complaint.

It had some proggy elements for sure, it was a concept album, carrying on from The Wall, it had lots of classical mixed with Rock music, more I guess proto prog, in a Days Of Future Passed kinda way
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: KelMar on April 29, 2014, 04:13:25 AM

That and their Your Wildest Dreams video were far out...


I really liked those songs when they came out (and still do) but for some reason I don't remember these connected videos. Neat!
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 29, 2014, 04:44:23 AM
On early posters they were 'The' Pink Floyd and, to disassociate that group (which I love) from the later stuff (which I don't love), they will always be 'The' Pink Floyd for me.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on April 29, 2014, 05:51:54 AM
On early posters they were 'The' Pink Floyd and, to disassociate that group (which I love) from the later stuff (which I don't love), they will always be 'The' Pink Floyd for me.



Doesnt make any sense.......Piper At The Gates Of Dawn was their 1st album and they were simply Pink Floyd, you preferred them BEFORE they made that album ?
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Ovi on April 29, 2014, 03:14:49 PM


Doesnt make any sense.......Piper At The Gates Of Dawn was their 1st album and they were simply Pink Floyd, you preferred them BEFORE they made that album ?


Hipster oldbrownshoe  ;D

(https://i.imgflip.com/8gf2t.jpg)
 ;sorry
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 29, 2014, 04:31:32 PM
.....and they were 'The' Pink Floyd on their first three 45s (and on the label of 'Piper') and so, largely to disassociate that group from the boring FM Radio/stadium rock/US hugging juggernaut they became later, they will always be 'The' Pink Floyd.
I knew I shouldn't have done the 'The' thing, someone was bound to take the bait!

Anyway, has anyone actually done their thing on The Pink Floyd yet, or has the topic moved on?

(Note - That geezer has got tatts, has a beard and looks like he was born in about 1984 (don't laugh)....it's not oldbrownshoe, he looks more like Paul McCartney circa the 'Paperback Writer' promo.
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 29, 2014, 04:40:50 PM
(http://www.neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk/photos/var/albums/Pink-Floyd-Photos/Pink-Floyd-Posters/1967-Pink-Floyd-Posters/1967%20Arnold%20Layne%20Pink%20Floyd%20Poster.jpg?m=1391961205)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 29, 2014, 04:42:56 PM
(http://files.sydbarrettpinkfloyd.com/uploaded_images/Pink-Floyd-Poster-786354.jpg)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 29, 2014, 04:44:07 PM
Quod erat demonstrandum
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on April 29, 2014, 11:59:16 PM
Ive always been aware that they were called 'The Pink Floyd' originally, but to refuse to call them 'Pink Floyd' (the name they have had since 1967) is a bit  :-\

Anyway in reply to Bazz


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjI4WDM5Nw==/z/SAgAAOxywXFSbvsZ/$(KGrHqYOKo8FJbY!3rCbBSbvsZdq!Q~~60_35.JPG?set_id=8800005007)

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-v6dKmw-MjbOk_wEg3uFtBNfmd3Cq3McXT0LV5QhmE0yM4d6G)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/cbc57da16b024974b13d214a4ad449d9/tumblr_mw9okoc63r1rd76vjo9_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: KelMar on April 30, 2014, 02:23:08 AM
I'm not gonna get involved in THE debate but man...I really like that last poster Kev. Far out!
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: nimrod on April 30, 2014, 04:05:00 AM
I'm not gonna get involved in THE debate but man...I really like that last poster Kev. Far out!

Ohh common Kelley, you cant beat a good debate  ;D  oldbrownshow is so stuck in the mid sixties Im surprised he even has a computer  ha2ha


Yeah 1966 that, Kelley you must be a hippy chick !
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: KelMar on April 30, 2014, 07:58:26 PM
Ohh common Kelley, you cant beat a good debate  ;D

I know but since I only know about 3 Pink Floyd songs I don't feel qualified to participate!


Quote
Yeah 1966 that, Kelley you must be a hippy chick !

Guilty as charged! My family calls my hobby room the Hippie Hangout. LOL
Title: Re: The "Do you like that band?" Game
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 30, 2014, 08:59:06 PM
I have only one more thing to say on this subject, and as I'm currently speaking at the ufo in February '67 I feel I am uniquely qualified to say this - Chelsea 1 Atletico Madrid 3.
Laugh? I nearly bought a record made after '69.