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Title: John in the late sixties on Beatle music
Post by: nimrod on October 20, 2022, 03:39:21 AM
John Lennon on Beatle music.



‘I suppose I’m so indifferent about our music because other people take it so seriously. It can be pleasing in a way, but most of it gets my back up.
‘It’s nice when people like it, but when they start “appreciating” it, getting great deep things out of it, making a thing of it, then it’s a lot of sh*t. It proves what we’ve always thought about most sorts of so-called art. It’s all a lot of sh*t. We hated all the sh*t they wrote and talked about Beethoven and ballet, all kidding themselves it was important. Now it’s happening to us. None of it is important
It just takes a few people to get going, and they con themselves into thinking it’s important. It all becomes a big con.‘We’re a con as well. We know we’re conning them, because we know people want to be conned. They’ve given us the freedom to con them. Let’s stick that in there, we say, that’ll start them puzzling. I’m sure all artists do, when they realize it’s a con. I bet Picasso sticks things in. I bet he’s been laughing his balls off for the last 80 years.
‘It’s sad, though. When we’re not laughing, we’re conning ourselves into thinking we are important. People won’t take anything as a laugh. If we said when we wrote “She’s Leaving Home” we were actually thinking about bananas, nobody would believe you. They don’t want to believe you.
‘It is depressing to realize
we were right in what we always thought, all these years ago. Beethoven is a con, just like we are now. He was just knocking out a bit of work, that was all.‘The thing is, do Beethoven and these sort of people realize they’re a con? Or do they really think they’re important? Does the prime minister realize he’s just a bloke? I don’t know. Perhaps  he’s taken in by all this pretending to know what he’s doing. The drag is he sounds as if he really thinks he knows what’s going on, when he doesn’t.
‘People think the Beatles know what’s going on. We don’t. We’re just doing it. People want to know what the inner meaning of “Mr Kite” was. There wasn’t any. I just did it. I shoved a lot of words together, then shoved some noise on. I didn’t dig that song when I wrote it. I didn’t believe in it when we were recording it. But nobody will believe it. They don’t want to. They want it to be important.’
Title: Re: John in the late sixties on Beatle music
Post by: In My Life on October 20, 2022, 04:44:47 AM
John Lennon on Beatle music.


Was this from the Hunter Davies book, Kev?
Title: Re: John in the late sixties on Beatle music
Post by: nimrod on October 20, 2022, 09:11:47 AM

Was this from the Hunter Davies book, Kev?

Good spot Kelley.  ;D
Title: Re: John in the late sixties on Beatle music
Post by: blmeanie on October 20, 2022, 10:44:03 AM
wait, John Lennon was brutally honest with his opinion?  I hadn't heard this particular take before, i find the connection to politics very interesting and in today's world, how many politicians think they are capital G God's gift to society and thank God they are running things and how many are doing a job as John put it, just a bloke.
Title: Re: John in the late sixties on Beatle music
Post by: Normandie on October 20, 2022, 03:55:45 PM


I just realized I still have Hunter Davies' book on my shelf; my younger daughter gave it to me last Christmas. If I don't have something sitting right in front of me, I forget it. It's on my bed pillow right now. No chance I'll miss it there.
Title: Re: John in the late sixties on Beatle music
Post by: Moogmodule on October 21, 2022, 02:21:05 AM
I take it John would not have been a fan of these type of forums.  ha2ha
Title: Re: John in the late sixties on Beatle music
Post by: In My Life on October 23, 2022, 02:00:15 AM
Good spot Kelley.  ;D


Well…I’ve only read the book once and it was a long time ago! I searched it and only sort of found the answer. I should probably re-read it before the library program.