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Solo forums => Paul McCartney => Topic started by: Wayne L. on June 20, 2004, 09:30:13 PM
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Back To The Egg....Paul seems lost as an artist & as a legend at the time trying to stay current while the album cover itself is a masterpiece & Sgt. Pepper lite.
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[quote by=Wayne_L. link=Blah.pl?b=mccartney,m=1087767013,s=0 date=1087767013]Back To The Egg....Paul seems lost as an artist & as a legend at the time trying to stay current while the album cover itself is a masterpiece & Sgt. Pepper lite. [/quote]
Your insane! Listen to McCartney 2 and then reflect back on your comment.
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I liked Back to the Egg a great deal.....I figured tkitna would too from the avatar, heh......the worst Paul album is definitely McCartney II.....there's like a good song or two at the start, and then it just delves into the pool of abysmal. Honesty, I was getting a headache listening to some of that crap.
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Wild Life was numbingly bad, the kind of suicidal desire bad.
Egg was an overall gret album.
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[quote by=Rowdy link=Blah.pl?b=mccartney,m=1087767013,s=2 date=1087789147]......the worst Paul album is definitely McCartney II.....there's like a good song or two at the start, and then it just delves into the pool of abysmal. Honesty, I was getting a headache listening to some of that crap.[/quote]
You give Mac 2 way to much credit. 'Waterfalls' is the only song I can take off of the whole album. Even the studio version of 'Coming Up' is horrible. Over all terrible.
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Waterfalls and Coming Up are the only songs I like actually......I downloaded the album and put in what I had from Wingspan, so I haven't heard the studio Coming Up.........so yeah, I'd basically agree that there's only one good track. Awful.
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Well, from my mostly lacking collection of McCartney albums, I would have to say Press To Play. Right down to the mullet cut on the cover (although I kinda like the song Press, but that's the only exception)
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For me, it has to be Wildlife with Back To The Egg a close second.
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I'm probably going out on a limb here, but in my opinion, the bottom of Paul's studio albums all occured in the 80's.......McCartney II, Pipes of Peace, Press to Play, Give My Regards.....Tug of War and Flowers weren't all that great either....I think he started to lose his creativity after he ended Wings, but we have got the wonderful Driving Rain since then, so who knows....
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I was 18 when McCARTNEY II was released and was very into the album then. It's an experimental sound and a try at something different from Paul. I like it.
BACK TO THE EGG is more rockin' - I love it.
WILD LIFE has improved with age, and it feels like a nice picnic out in the woods when you listen to it.
Worst Album? It's DRIVING RAIN! (pee-yooo)
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Yeah, I enjoy Driving Rain less with every listen..........Flaming Pie is really his recent release that was amazing......it may even be his best album.....Rain has a new sound that's good at first, but then you realize that the songcraft isn't all that great.......I still like it better than all of his 80's albums though.
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I'd say FLAMING PIE is his best 90s album, definitely - though I like OFF THE GROUND a lot.
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[quote by=Joe_Karlosi link=Blah.pl?b=mccartney,m=1087767013,s=11 date=1089845358]I'd say FLAMING PIE is his best 90s album, definitely - though I like OFF THE GROUND a lot.[/quote]
And his worst?
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Joes a 'Driving Rain' hater TE.
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Really? I thought that album wasn't too bad! :)
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Yeah, I think DRIVING RAIN was his worst. After that, I'd say PRESS TO PLAY.
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Press To Play
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is mccartney his best?
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Wild Life is the worst crime ever committed on a listening public.
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I didn't think much of WILD LIFE back then, but I've come to like it now. Very "outdoorsy".
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Wild Life is so great.....I love all his 70's stuff, mostly because it never seemed force like what would come after.....great album you can put on in the background and relax to....I could see people being disappointed, but it definitely isn't harmful to one's ears/mind..
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[quote by=number14 link=Blah.pl?b=mccartney,m=1087767013,s=17 date=1091589062]is mccartney his best?[/quote]
no. Although maybe some people like it. RAM, Band on the Run and Flaming Pie are my personal favs of his. You could always just go for Wingspan tough.
Anyway I think is worst is Wild Life... Sorry Rowdy
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[quote by=Herecomesyoursun link=Blah.pl?b=mccartney,m=1087767013,s=21 date=1091665387] Anyway I think is worst is Wild Life... Sorry Rowdy[/quote]
It's ok. You're human. You make mistakes. ;)
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So do you. . No chat man??? We saw you at moondogs but you ditched out?
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Heh, I honestly don't remember being at Moondogs after the failed chat or something....maybe I did click the message board? I know I came on when I saw the PM email......but whatever, there's always next time.
And there's always a next time for you to be forgiven by Paul for your transgressions against Wild Life.
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well for that to happen, you're going to need to kiss and make up with Ringo the 4th
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[quote by=Herecomesyoursun link=Blah.pl?b=mccartney,m=1087767013,s=25 date=1091845513]well for that to happen, you're going to need to kiss and make up with Ringo the 4th[/quote]
NM
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gotta be Press To Play
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[quote by=Bruno link=Blah.pl?b=mccartney,m=1087767013,s=27 date=1091933949]gotta be Press To Play[/quote]
I listened to that again last night......there isn't a single good track. I'm officially changing my vote from McCartney II to Press to Play...
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flip flopper
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PRESS TO PLAY is Paul's second worst album. It at least has 2 decent songs on it: I like 'Press', and 'Pretty Little Head', ..... maybe even 'Only Love Remains" (yecch, what a terrible album now that I think of it) ...... but it's better than Paul's worst - DRIVING RAIN - which has ZERO good songs on it, and atrocious lyrics.
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McCartney II is mostly unlistenable to me. Press To Play is 'certainly not his best work'. His more recent work has far better songs than his albums from the 80's, but I have to admit I don't listen to it very much. BOTR is definitely his best.
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i heard on some melody maker review ages ago that mccartney II is awful, but...
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Why does some people hate Driving Rain? The reviews seem to have been pretty good. Of course, look at the Rolling Stone review for the "Ebony and Ivory" album--five stars?!
I'd say the critics have actually been pretty easy on Paul.
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Why does some people hate Driving Rain?
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Back To The Egg could have been a great rock album from McCartney & Wings but it's lacking any edge with only a few good tracks trying to be current at the time even though the album cover is excellent tkitna.
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'Back to the Egg' is probably my favorite Paul Solo LP. The 'Rockestra' segue into 'To You' is worth the price of admission alone.
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i heard on some melody maker review ages ago that mccartney II is awful, but...
,,,,,but nothing. They speak the truth.
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'Back to the Egg' is probably my favorite Paul Solo LP. The 'Rockestra' segue into 'To You' is worth the price of admission alone.
BTTE could have been a better rock album by Paul & Wings if he could have done more with the concept of the song Rockestra with other rock legends as in Pete Townsend & John Bonham since it only has a few great tracks like Spin It On.
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Why does some people hate Driving Rain?
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I've heard good things about Tug of War. I think "Ebony and Ivory" is easy to make fun of--espcially after Joe Piscopo and Eddie Murphy did their thing. But the song itself never bothered me.
I really like Mull of Kintyre--I think that's an incredible song. I don't know what album it's on.
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BTTE could have been a better rock album by Paul & Wings if he could have done more with the concept of the song Rockestra with other rock legends as in Pete Townsend & John Bonham since it only has a few great tracks like Spin It On.
I have no idea what this means.
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I've heard good things about Tug of War.
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Your insane! Listen to McCartney 2 and then reflect back on your comment.
Back To The Egg could have been much better as a classic rock album during his Wings days if Paul would have been more ballsy as an artist. There are some good tracks on it like Spin It On, Arrow Through Me & Rockestra but he's trying too hard to be current at the time being a former Beatle.
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Personaly, I think 'Spin It On' is one of the worst songs on the album.
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Gotta agree again T. I could probably do without 'Daytime Nightime Suffering', but its not horrible. There's alot of great stuff on this album. I love 'The Broadcast' and its not really even a song. Some people that reviewed this album said there is no congruity to it and its too adventurous, whatever the hell that means. Its a great album, and judging by the photos, it was done completely baked--isn't Steve Holly holding a big doob?
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I actually like 'DNS' a good bit, but 'Old Siam,Sir' is probably my favorite tune off the whole album (well, Getting Closer is fun to drum to) due to my childhood memories of listening to it with my cousin as he had the 'Arrow Through Me/Old Siam,Sir' 45. All in all its a great record.
I thought Steve was holding a cig, but now i'll have to double check.
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'Old Siam, Sir' kicks. I saw Laurence Juber at a 'Fest in the early 80's saying how he came up with that (simple, yet) kick ass little riff. 'Getting Closer' was another favorite. Brings back good memories.
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You give Mac 2 way to much credit. 'Waterfalls' is the only song I can take off of the whole album. Even the studio version of 'Coming Up' is horrible. Over all terrible.
You always forgets "On The Way", "Nobody Knows" and "One Of These Days" ...
There are worse albumS than McCartney II
Wildlife for me ...
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I know we always argue about this album and we both have different tastes, but I just cant deal with it. If (and thats a big if) I had to take two songs off of the album that were good, they would be 'Waterfalls' and 'One Of These Days'. I find 'On The Way' and 'Nobody Knows' as unlistenable. I also like Wild Life so we definately are at different ends of the spectrum on these two albums.
I see 'Press To Play' gets slammed all the time when in fact 'Pipes Of Peace' is way worse. Easily Pauls second worst album.
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I know, I know ... ;D
BTW, I think Pipes Of Peace is better than London Town or Venus And Mars, naming just two. Even Press To Play is more complete (melodic and lyrically) than Wild Life, for example.
P.S. I like Wild Life too, but I think is his worst work (tho some -few- good moments, in that one).
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BTW, I think Pipes Of Peace is better than London Town or Venus And Mars, naming just two.
Raxo, now your just doing this on purpose arent you? ;)
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Raxo, now your just doing this on purpose arent you? ;)
Hahaha ... OK, no more tesing you (today) ... :P ;)
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I don't suppose the "Liverpool Sound Collage" can be considered an album, but it ain't good, even in avant garde kind of way.
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From those I have, it would be Pipes Of Peace, specially because it was a weak sucessor for Tug Of War, which is probably his best album. So the best album and the worst one, to me, are these consecutive releases.
McCartney II is a great album!! :P I love it.
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McCartney II is a great album!! :P I love it.
Welcome to the club!!! ;)
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Yeah, it has two members. ;D
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Yeah, it has two members. ;D
You've got a problem with numbers, yeah? We're already five in the world!!! :P ;D
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I like Pipes of Peace as a single , but the rest of the album is weak it's not one i listen to much.
Tug Of War is brilliant :)
DaveRam :)
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I agree that his worst album could be Pipes of Peace even though it was
great song. Through our love & Average Person are pretty good ones but the rest
i find not that great.
Give My Regards to Broad Street soundtrack was pretty poor i thought as he was
re-doing his old songs but i thought Not Such A Bad Boy & No Values were brilliant songs! :)
No Values would have sounded better if he left the solo on at the end before he stoped the band. :-/
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IMO, McCartney, and almost everything he released after Wings (a few minor exceptions) up to the most recent two. Chaos was decent but I didn't think it was great either, and the newest might be okay, but from what I've heard of it so far wasn't too appealing to me.
Maybe I'm just crazy though, because I love McCartney II AND Wildlife.
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As I just added to the 'Johns worst album' thread, I felt it only fair to come here.
There are quite a few contenders to be honest. Can't decide between McCartney II, or Press To Play. Though special mention must go to Pipes Of Peace, Wildlife, and McCartney (Maybe I'm Amazed and Every Night are brilliant, but the rest is pants),
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Maybe I'm just crazy though, because I love McCartney II AND Wildlife.
If you like McCartney 2 then you'll love his new one i think! :)
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I don't know why people don't like Wildlife, its not like every track is terrible. In my opinion none of the tracks are terrible.(I'm talking about the remastered version with 'Give Ireland Back To The Irish', 'Little Woman Love', 'Mary Had a Little Lamb', and 'Mama's Little Girl') I like all the songs even 'Mary Had a Little Lamb'. There are more rock songs on Wild Life than on Red Rose Speedway. Besides the production which is a little lacking I'd like to know why people think its bad(Especially from Raxo as it seems he doesn't like the album at all save for a few songs). I mean McCartney II is horrible and just not lisenable at all. Wild Life shouldn't even be compared to McCartney II.
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If you like McCartney 2 then you'll love his new one i think! :)
Oh dear.
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Being a born and breed wings fan its hard for me to knock a wings album even though LONDON TOWN has`nt really aged well .
His 80s [oh how a hate that decades music] slipped down a very slippery slope :'(
I got to for GIVE MY REGARDS TO BROADSTREET , Oh MACCA what was you thinking :-/
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Oh dear.
er.. what i meant to say was ... ;D :P
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Ram for this man. Just not to my tastes. It annoys me.
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To me Ram is probably his best, along with Tug Of War. It's fantastic. Yesterday I listened 3 times in a row.
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I don't know why people don't like Wildlife, its not like every track is terrible. In my opinion none of the tracks are terrible.(I'm talking about the remastered version with 'Give Ireland Back To The Irish', 'Little Woman Love', 'Mary Had a Little Lamb', and 'Mama's Little Girl') I like all the songs even 'Mary Had a Little Lamb'. There are more rock songs on Wild Life than on Red Rose Speedway. Besides the production which is a little lacking I'd like to know why people think its bad(Especially from Raxo as it seems he doesn't like the album at all save for a few songs). I mean McCartney II is horrible and just not lisenable at all. Wild Life shouldn't even be compared to McCartney II.
I agree (with the majority anyways, I've always liked McCartney II). Wild Life has some great tunes..
To me it has a lot of catchy guitar and drum work, and that's why I like it. I don't understand how people can really hate that album.
I can understand the hatred for McCartney II, I admit that album's er.. questionable.. But it should not be compared to Wild Life
at all. Completely different albums. I too like all of the songs on Wild Life.
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er.. what i meant to say was ... ;D :P
That's a relief! ;)
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I like the Tug of War album but i don't think its his best, it has got some
great songs on it. Here Today, tug of war, take it away but i struggle when it gets to
ebony & ivory or Dress me up like a Robber. :-/ Its a much better album than Pipes of Peace though which is my least fav Macca album.
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I really quite like Pipes of Peace although you wont find me defending Hey Hey & Tug of Peace which kill the second half of the album stone dead.
His worst album is Give My Regards To a Bad Idea for a Movie, although dishonoury mentions must go to Pause To Stop & Drivel Rain. ;D
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McCartney II wasn't really meant for release anyways. In an interview Paul just was recording stuff and a friend listented to it and asked him if it was his next album, in which Paul said it was just for fun. The guy convinced him to release it and he did. As you can tell by the interview, Paul isn't really big on the album and did it as a joke or something. In someways you can consider it as the MMT, maybe not a real album.
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wildlife probably its really hard to figure out how he could go from writing some of the best pop songs ever to writing such lame stuff within two years :/ it definitely shows that he needed the other guys to bounce ideas off of.
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I don't know why people don't like Wildlife, its not like every track is terrible. In my opinion none of the tracks are terrible.
"Some People" might have been saved had it been about 3 minutes shorter. I once made an shorter edit of this song, and it worked much better. But, Bip Bop and Mumbo???? The rest of the tracks sound both lyrically and musically unfinished to me. Solo Paul always sounds unfinished to me to some degree... even when he's not rushing to finish in a week.
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I might be in the minority here but I really enjoyed McCartney II and also Pipes Of Peace. (Actually Tug Of War and Pipes Of Peace are my favorite Macca Albums)
My vote would go for Press To Play, that's Macca at his worst IMO. I used to dislike Wild Life and Driving Rain too but I've grown to enjoy them now.
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Wildlife
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I might be in the minority here but I really enjoyed McCartney II and also Pipes Of Peace. (Actually Tug Of War and Pipes Of Peace are my favorite Macca Albums)
My vote would go for Press To Play, that's Macca at his worst IMO. I used to dislike Wild Life and Driving Rain too but I've grown to enjoy them now.
For the life of me, I just cant see how you or anybody can list anything below Macca 2 and Pipes. At least Press has more than a couple decent tunes on it.
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Pipes of Peace. The title track is even more cringeworthy than "We All Stand Together" because it lacks the latter's (misplaced?) sense of humor; the collaborations with Michael Jackson are head-on collisions between two Peter Pans in full flight, and most of the rest sounds like Tug Of War leftovers that should have been left over longer ("So Bad" and "Keep Under Cover" excepted). A filler album released to get "product" out between Tug Of War and the Give My Regards To Broad Street film.
(barf4)
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except for maybe four songs, McCartney's absolute worst album is McCartney II!
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I'll vote for London Town. Didn't like it when it came out, like it even less now.
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london town is one of my fave paul albums!!mccartney ll is 80% fodder i must admit-4 good songs(the first 4)then the rest.....hmmmmm.lots of big acts recorded some crap in the 70's and 80's,the other 3 beatles included.press to play has some nice bits-pipes of peace also.mccartney ll is way,way the worst paul album.you have to be a very very very very strong paul fan to sit all the way through that load of pants.
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Driving rain