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Title: Anthology complaints
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on June 23, 2004, 02:11:38 AM
Now i loved Anthology, but i was disapointed in many areas.  I wish they had talked about Kohn's death, and more about the breakup and afterwards, it just sort of abrubtly stopped.  Thoughts....
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: tkitna on June 24, 2004, 12:25:19 AM
[quote by=Herecomesyoursun link=Blah.pl?b=films,m=1087956698,s=0 date=1087956698] I wish they had talked about Kohn's death[/quote]

I like the first 'Star Trek' better. (just joking)

Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: The End on June 24, 2004, 12:45:36 AM
[quote by=tkitna link=Blah.pl?b=films,m=1087956698,s=1 date=1088036719]

I like the first 'Star Trek' better. (just joking)[/quote]

LOL! That made me spit my water out!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Wayne L. on June 26, 2004, 09:02:02 PM
I thought the Anthology documentary was too damn long despite great classic footage of the Beatles since it should have been more like The Kids Are Alright by the Who, 25/5 by the Stones, Don't Blame Me by Ozzy Osbourne & Exposed by Kiss even though it was great seeing Paul, George & Ringo together.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: on June 26, 2004, 09:30:39 PM
The "official" reason they stopped at the breakup is because it was only supposed to be about the Beatle years (tho they liberally dipped into their childhood eras).

Obviously both the breakup and John's death would have been a major bummer, and their thoughts on John would be best being kept personal anyway.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: on June 28, 2004, 03:32:04 AM
I agree with that, Mister Charlie ...

My complaint about the Anthology was that they skipped over the whole
"Paul is Dead" rumors. Sure it was a hoax in their book ( is it him? or is it memorex???), but you must admit, it was a big deal at the time. They might have left it out so that they wouldn't open that can of worms again to a brand new audience or to those who hadn't heard about this story. If anything, they could have just said, "It wasn't real ... it was all in ppl's imagination and they read into our music and put meaning to things that weren't even there" Done deal. But at least mention it. I on the other hand love the story and all the clues. Its fascinating.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: on July 15, 2004, 03:50:29 PM
Hell, I wish they could do an ANTHOLOGY 2 with only solo material. I love The Beatles as a group, but after awhile it's good to expand.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: daytrip202 on July 23, 2004, 05:49:37 PM
I personally love the entire Anthology, but there is so much missing from the story.  Cynthia Lennon is virtually ignored with, and I don't remember Jane Asher being mentioned at all.  Perhaps they did not deem them important enough, but they were IMHO.  I did not think of the Paul is Dead rumour, but that should definitly have ben included.   I guess you can't fit it all in though.  I'm happy with it overall.  Books need to be read as well.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: The End on July 24, 2004, 08:48:41 PM
I would have liked it to have been a little more historically correct. I think it was difficult for each individual Beatle to remember everything! Perhaps they should have gone through a little refresher course first!

That's not a complaint though - I love it, and have watched the videos, and now DVD's, OVER and OVER again!
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: on July 24, 2004, 11:17:28 PM
[quote by=daytrip202 link=Blah.pl?b=films,m=1087956698,s=7 date=1090604977]I personally love the entire Anthology, but there is so much missing from the story.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Sadie4 on July 26, 2004, 05:48:23 PM
 But Yoko was dedicated a chapter if my mind serves me right. And I think she did influence JOHN, but Pattie was also the inspiration behind "Something" and she is hardly mentioned...
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: ringorama on July 26, 2004, 06:24:19 PM
I think they should have made the whole childhood/influences part shorter, seemed way too long for me.

They should have said something about the Paul is dead thing, I agree. Wonder why they didn't...
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Sadie4 on July 27, 2004, 06:46:42 PM
 Maybe because Paul woulnd't talk any more about it?
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: visitorfromarticcircle on July 28, 2004, 08:59:31 AM
My wish-list for anthology

I wish they have include  more of those old interviews in them, they are really fanny. And one tv-clip ??  i saw,   when they were given some prize cup  and they started to fight about it! ..plus that  tv-interview, where Paul admit  that he have take LSD. He looked good in it too! But you cannot have everything...

About  wifes and girlfrends.. i think it was wise to stick just in the music and beatles. There was a lot of them documents before anthology about them, when all possible people - except them - where talking about Beatles.

And also if you start to include wifes and girlfrends etc...How do you decide where to stop,  you know what i mean ??  And i wonder, if any  guy  would like to see their ex-wifes in document concerning their work or  Yoko in that matter. But  i do admit that it  would be inresting... :o And i do like to see anthology solo too!
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Indica on July 31, 2004, 07:55:37 PM
The anthology was great, but alot of areas were just left out.
I feel the DVD anthology set was for the fans who just wanted the music videos..which..is great..but huge areas..such as Mccartney living with the Ashers..etc were just ignored.

You need context, and foundations to explain the songs.
They done a great job, and the menu's etc are really well done...but its sort of rushed towards the end.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: thenoteleks on August 07, 2004, 02:47:18 AM
anthology complaints...

not long enough
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Wordno on September 22, 2004, 05:09:59 AM
Okay I have a question,  I thought that Let it be was the Beatles last album, but why did they say in the anthology that abbey road was there last album?  Was it to make everyone think that the beatles left off on a good note?  Whats the deal?
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: on September 22, 2004, 05:19:35 AM
[quote by=Wordno link=Blah.pl?b=films,m=1087956698,s=16 date=1095829799]Okay I have a question,
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Wordno on September 22, 2004, 05:23:47 AM
Oh I see, okay that makes me feel better.  It's good to know that they did leave off on a good note.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Kiss My Bad Self on September 22, 2004, 08:40:02 AM
i thought the dvd skipped out to much stuff, especially the hamburg period. but its great for old footage. the book is much better an much more detailed but as its by the beatles they dont talk about some of the stuff that an outsider would talk about, but thats expected.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Sadie4 on September 22, 2004, 07:15:22 PM
 For example? What stuff?
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Kiss My Bad Self on September 23, 2004, 09:28:52 AM
errrrrrr well i think Johns acid phase between sixty six an sixty eight. some people have said he was gobbling acid for breakfast an almost permanately tripping. he seemed to go a bit mad during this perios but it was also when he was at his most creative but the anthology dont talk about it that much. then in hamburg it only skims the surface of the drugs they were doing and all the things that happened to them out there. an in the break up they dont talk about how much John an Paul ended up hating eachother. i like to read about the messy stuff i suppose- the drugs, the fights an all that.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: on September 23, 2004, 02:07:22 PM
[quote by=Kiss_My_Bad_Self link=Blah.pl?b=films,m=1087956698,s=21 date=1095931732]errrrrrr well i think Johns acid phase between sixty six an sixty eight. some people have said he was gobbling acid for breakfast an almost permanately tripping. he seemed to go a bit mad during this perios but it was also when he was at his most creative but the anthology dont talk about it that much. then in hamburg it only skims the surface of the drugs they were doing and all the things that happened to them out there. an in the break up they dont talk about how much John an Paul ended up hating eachother. i like to read about the messy stuff i suppose- the drugs, the fights an all that.[/quote]

There's plenty of other books out there that cover that stuff, whether it be true or not.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Sadie4 on September 23, 2004, 06:59:24 PM
[quote by=Kiss_My_Bad_Self link=Blah.pl?b=films,m=1087956698,s=21 date=1095931732]errrrrrr well i think Johns acid phase between sixty six an sixty eight. some people have said he was gobbling acid for breakfast an almost permanately tripping. he seemed to go a bit mad during this perios but it was also when he was at his most creative but the anthology dont talk about it that much. then in hamburg it only skims the surface of the drugs they were doing and all the things that happened to them out there. an in the break up they dont talk about how much John an Paul ended up hating eachother. i like to read about the messy stuff i suppose- the drugs, the fights an all that.[/quote]

 I suppose censorship was still working at the time the Anthology was being written.

Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: althea on September 24, 2004, 01:03:42 AM
[quote by=daytrip202 link=Blah.pl?b=films,m=1087956698,s=7 date=1090604977]I personally love the entire Anthology, but there is so much missing from the story.  Cynthia Lennon is virtually ignored with, and I don't remember Jane Asher being mentioned at all.  Perhaps they did not deem them important enough, but they were IMHO.  I did not think of the Paul is Dead rumour, but that should definitly have ben included.   I guess you can't fit it all in though.  I'm happy with it overall.  Books need to be read as well.[/quote]

About Jane Asher - I remember Paul saying somewhere (I don't know if it was the Anthology book) that he doesn't talk about her publicly because she doesn't talk about him. Respecting her privacy as much as anything else, I guess.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Indica on September 24, 2004, 10:37:10 AM
When he mentioned living at the Ahsers* the family name isnt mentioned, nor is any great detail given... yet in Many years from now by Barry Miles... half the book is about the Ashers home!
So that public privacy went out the window :)
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Sadie4 on September 24, 2004, 03:06:16 PM
 That's right,. But who knows? He may have contacted the Ashers (Peteer, for example) to ask permission to name them in his biography...
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Indica on September 24, 2004, 04:23:23 PM
yeah, your probaly right Sadie.
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: SieLiebtDich on September 25, 2004, 07:52:31 AM
yeah I also think they were missing alot of stuff my dad thinks so too :-/
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: pc31 on October 22, 2004, 01:53:05 AM
maybe they are saving it for another updated version....
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Sadie4 on October 22, 2004, 09:48:10 AM
That's what I think, They may be reserving something for the Anthology 2 book
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: SieLiebtDich on October 25, 2004, 08:59:05 AM
The Anthoology Book is loaded with great beatle pics, ;-D
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: Mr. Kite on November 19, 2004, 06:48:36 AM
I always wished they talked more about the Paul is Dead rumor I mean most of it is just coincidence but their are some songs like "Glass Onion" for example with the line "And here's another clue for you all the walrus was Paul."  I mean that always seemed like a deliberatlly planted clue to me like maybe it was their response to the whole silly rumor.  The Anthology is in fact a fine look at The Beatles and it is what they set out to do talk about the band and the music and the songs and where they come from and the experiences they shared and that is all really.  I mean they could have had another 2 hours talking about wives and families and after the breakup and John's death but even though we all would have paid more money to see more footage we really don't need to see miscilanious footage like this because it doesn't involve The Beatles generally which is what the Anthology was about.  The only other thing I was upset about was that they left out the "Hey Bulldog" video which was discovered after the Anthology origionally aired and they said it would have been included with the Anthology but it wasn't found in time, well they could have included the video on the DVD version and that would have been nice but oh well.  As for updating the Anthology and making like Anthology 2 that would be great but I mean John and George are dead now and as fun as it is hearing Paul and Ringo talk about The Beatles John and George's point of views would be lost even though they could put in clips of them but I mean you wouldn't be able to ask them any new questions or get new opinions on anything.
 
Well that's my 2 cents.

Mr. Kite
Title: Re: Anthology complaints
Post by: SieLiebtDich on November 24, 2004, 07:29:11 AM
yeah, they should have done that when they began to talk about abby road, the cover