Topic: Why was there no fuss over lady Madonna? (Read 6703 times)

apple sauce · « **on:** February 08, 2005, 12:26:10 AM »

I could never understand why those "Religous" people who crucifyed John for his remarks about Jesus didn't get crazy about the "Lady Madonna" song? There were loads of religous parts through out the entire song! This is a reverred person amongst certain faiths. So why not a big who ha over the song?

The End · « **Reply #1 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:48:32 AM »

You've raised a a very good point there actually - because less than a year later, John's "**Christ** you know it ain't easy" (Ballad Of John & Yoko) was censored by most US stations, yet "creeping like a Nun" and "Madonna" etc went un-punished! Any ideas anyone?

sexy sadie · « **Reply #2 on:** February 08, 2005, 08:30:23 PM »

that is strange...

Ydoll Gwyn · « **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2005, 08:34:49 PM »

I would have thought it ABUNDANTLY clear that the "madonna" of Lady Madonna is NOT THE madonna. Read the lyrics!

You should see now why there was no fuss ...

Mushmouth · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2005, 03:16:14 AM »

Wow that is actually a very good point.

Maybe because John didn't sing it?

Frightwolf · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2005, 03:19:58 AM »

Quote from: Mushmouth

Wow that is actually a very good point.

Maybe because John didn't sing it?

Dunno about that. The media seemed out to get all of the Beatles, not just John.

apple sauce · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2005, 10:51:41 PM »

Actually there are tons of references of a "RELIGIOUS" nature throughout this song and what makes you think it's not about the "Madonna?" The "entire song" is not about the "Madonna" like most "Beatle lyrics" you have to read through them. I'm not saying it's 100% about the Madonna but how many famous "LADY MADONNAS" do you think there is in the early 70s???Lets see now Maddonna aka "Virgin Mary" Lyrics- Lady Madonna "Children At Your Feet", "Did You Think That Money Was Heaven Sent" "Sunday Morning Creeping Like A Nun", "Lady Madonna Baby At Your Breast" All these lyrical refferences seem to point towards the "Virgin Mary" Only my opinion of course. Why use refferences To nuns, Heaven, children at one's feet if it's not of a religious nature?

apple sauce · « **Reply #7 on:** February 09, 2005, 10:56:39 PM »

Last time I looked all the "Beatle's" lps were being burnt not just "John's songs" So the fact that "Paul" sung the song and not "John" should have no relevance! It was a "Beatle" song and All the Beatles took the hit indirectly due to "John's" remarks!

An Apple Beatle · « **Reply #8 on:** February 09, 2005, 11:02:09 PM »

They seemed to like courting controversy....Lady Madonna could be a reference to the 'maternal' woman...Then they expanded on the idea in a song-writing way.

apple sauce · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2005, 01:48:55 AM »

Well as I mentioned there were numerous interpitations and meanings in all Beatle songs! That could certainly of been one of them!

Ydoll Gwyn · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2005, 01:03:38 AM »

Quote from: apple_sauce

Actually there are tons of references of a "RELIGIOUS" nature throughout this song and what makes you think it's not about the "Madonna?" The "entire song" is not about the "Madonna" like most "Beatle lyrics" you have to read through them. I'm not saying it's 100% about the Madonna but how many famous "LADY MADONNAS" do you think there is in the early 70s???Lets see now Maddonna aka "Virgin Mary" Lyrics- Lady Madonna "Children At Your Feet", "Did You Think That Money Was Heaven Sent" "Sunday Morning Creeping Like A Nun", "Lady Madonna Baby At Your Breast" All these lyrical refferences seem to point towards the "Virgin Mary" Only my opinion of course. Why use refferences To nuns, Heaven, children at one's feet if it's not of a religious nature?

I didn't say it WASN'T religious. The song certainly has those overtones, (and I have a private opinion as to what the song is really about - & it's more religious than you could imagine).

But I maintain that the reference is NOT to THE Madonna.

But what really intrigues me is the "early 70s" reference. The song is from EARLY 1968! What did you mean there, man?

apple sauce · « **Reply #11 on:** February 13, 2005, 03:24:18 PM »

"Ydoll Gwyn" I was talking about the era of the "Beatles 60s through early 70s before they broke up as in how many famous Madonnas do you think were around in the early 70s? Not when the song was released. Prehaps if they had been still together when that other "Madonna" singer was popular our opinion of the song would have been different? So what's this "private opinion" about it being more religoius than I could ever imagine? What could be more religious than the "Virgin Mary?

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Ydoll Gwyn · « **Reply #12 on:** February 13, 2005, 07:12:11 PM »

But ... but ... the Beatles "broke up" officially in early 1970. So there's no "70s" for the Beatles as a recording band.

apple sauce · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2005, 01:43:38 AM »

Thank you for enlightening me about when the band broke up. Now that we all of our dates correct what about your real opinion about what the song is about if it's so totally religious? If it's not about the aka "Virgin Mary" Who's the "Lady Madonna" in the song?

Revolution_9 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2005, 02:14:28 AM »

For crying out loud, it's just a song. Just listen to it and enjoy it instead of fussing over who the hell it's about.

TurnMeOnDeadman · « **Reply #15 on:** February 15, 2005, 07:42:40 AM »

and "God" was actually played alot on the radio when it first came out, when he says "I dont belive in jesus"

apple sauce · « **Reply #16 on:** February 15, 2005, 12:05:13 PM »

Actually John reamed off lots of things that he didn't believe in that song. God and the Beatles were prehaps the most surprising!

Mairi · « **Reply #17 on:** February 15, 2005, 03:25:27 PM »

I didn't think it had any religious nature until you brought it up. I always assumed the "lady Madonna" was just a mother.

Ydoll Gwyn · « **Reply #18 on:** February 15, 2005, 07:02:37 PM »

Quote from: apple_sauce

Thank you for enlightening me about when the band broke up. Now that we all of our dates correct what about your

Ydoll Gwyn · « **Reply #19 on:** February 15, 2005, 07:03:05 PM »

Quote from: Mairi

I didn't think it had any religious nature until you brought it up. I always assumed the "lady Madonna" was just a mother.

I think you were right.

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