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Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« on: January 25, 2007, 04:00:19 AM »

for the songs...
you know...
Abbey Road had 2 medleys (1 of ten minutes and 1 of 5)
Sgt. Pepper's (his content)
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2007, 04:30:42 AM »

... or pop peras instead, eh pnxo?! 8)

Sgt. Pepper's spice-alley is a giant step forward: the audience noises, applauses in a Day In The Life ... for a non-live album I think that it was a great idea ... and the lack of pauses between some songs was another new idea (they were saying: no singles in this one) ... so it could be a pre-pop pera (Porompompom, poropo porompompero pero!)
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2007, 09:13:02 AM »

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Sgt. Pepper's spice-alley is a giant step forward:

OK, I've been trying to work this out myself without asking. Spice Alley? WTF?
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2007, 09:46:06 AM »

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for the songs...
you know...
Abbey Road had 2 medleys (1 of ten minutes and 1 of 5)
Sgt. Pepper's (his content)
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Well, by definition, an opera has to tell a story, and as neither album does, then then the answer has to be an unequivocal no.

BTW, I've always considered that the first 'medley' starts with Sun King, as there is a clear distincttion between it and You Never Give Me Your Money.
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2007, 08:16:57 AM »

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Spice Alley? WTF?

Raxo's attempt to make wordpuns in English.
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2007, 02:21:20 PM »

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OK, I've been trying to work this out myself without asking. Spice Alley? WTF?

It's spice-alley, but I see you can understand the post :) ... by the way, I'd love to see how many other questions you would make after reading certain posts in these forums ... I as-sure you you're not going to have enough time, man! 8)
After all, wasn't you the one who can as-sume things? :-/:
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2007, 09:05:33 PM »

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After all, wasn't you the one who can as-sume things? :-/:
http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-conversations/m-1145721577/s-150/


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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2007, 09:40:05 PM »

Past is not always in our side, uh?! ;D
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2007, 04:48:48 AM »

A simple no.
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2007, 11:02:41 AM »

Nope
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2007, 08:37:52 AM »

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... or pop peras instead, eh pnxo?! 8)

Sgt. Pepper's spice-alley is a giant step forward: the audience noises, applauses in a Day In The Life ... for a non-live album I think that it was a great idea ... and the lack of pauses between some songs was another new idea (they were saying: no singles in this one) ... so it could be a pre-pop pera (Porompompom, poropo porompompero pero!)

Heheheh poperas and Porompompom, poropo porompompero pero!. Good ones, Raxo heheheh
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I don't think they were rock operas.

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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2007, 03:11:39 PM »

Sgt. Pepers was nothing more then a joke---

They were tired of the tours & saw Elvis put a car on tour!

They wanted something like that!

So they looked around!At the time the bands--1 peice ect had very long names!

Johnny & the Midisanol 1 man band  ect ect!

They came up with Stg Pepers Lonely Hearts Club band!
John saw a poster & almost word  for word  For the Benifate of Mr Kite!
Now the other songs could have gone on any lp!

Anyways they made the films or as we call themtoday MUSIC VIDOES!!!!

They were put out for he suol purpose to tour as videos  only!
The people could see the Beatles & since there is no longer a gathering of screeming shreeks!

The mass can now hear the quality music!
The Goal was made!No rock opera was intened ever!
Some time passed --Most thought the Beatles were over!--(Hey jude  & Revolution) hit  & woke them to a newer non  psychadelic but harder edge rock n roll!

The Public took     ( Let it Be) to be the last!Many years after  Rock n roll music--1962/66  & 1967/70!
More & more Beatles lps came out!

Eventualy--I feel John would have caved in--The time was getting to the point were he wanted to see all!

I do mean all so the Beatles could have been an item!The Beatles how ever would never be nor will they be a Rock Opera!

I know the Circus oley was Georges idea!
I realy don't see the edge of John!

He did not want circus --That was the early years of the Beatles! Screeming ect!!!
    He wanted to be herd!  
Be it he was marching in the street with a mega phone--or singing Luck of the Irish!

His protest to be herd worked! He was herd---

I can still hear him--- (I'M JUST SITTING HERE WATCHING THE WHEELS GO ROUND) John Lennon!
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2007, 03:56:05 PM »

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Sgt. Pepers was nothing more then a joke---

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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2007, 04:50:50 PM »

Did you ever listen to anthology or just want to put down what is said by me?
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2007, 08:36:01 PM »

If you are referring to the concept of 'Sgt Pepper' and of the inspiration from the psychedelic explosion of the American West Coast - then phrasing it as "a joke" is far too extreme. The Beatles are renowned for their humour; their quick Scouse wit and the typical Northern Working Class principles they loved and shared.

Comedy interpretation of songs of Rubber Soul onwards (Michelle, Drive My Car, Girl etc) have all been discussed here on this forum - and Sgt Pepper in all its extravagance can be seen as the pinnacle of Beatle eccentricity and self-recognition.

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Nevertheless the Beatles were astute, professional perfectionists who always took recording seriously when it boiled down to making 'real' music.
Sgt Pepper is a celebrated album of its generation.
To call it a joke, would be to condemn its status & output as merely minimal.

There's more behind the 'look' and 'sound' of Pepper than just a tongue in cheek - lad to lad - mess around ....and they knew it.  
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2007, 08:41:11 PM »

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Raxo's attempt to make wordpuns in English.

And I like him for it!  :) Especially as a rough-and-ready working class humour 'Britlander'.  ;D
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2007, 08:42:38 PM »

I'm not calling it a joke--I said John did not put forth the same he did for Abbey Road or even

Something New.

He was tierd & wanted breaks form touring--So the mind set of tour was done & Sgt Peppers follwed

Hennry & his Medicinal Band & every other long named  artist ect.

That's all I sad--1 must read careful the writtings--even when you take any foods.

It might not be dated.
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2007, 08:44:34 PM »

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... or pop peras instead, eh pnxo?! 8)

Sgt. Pepper's spice-alley is a giant step forward: the audience noises, applauses in a Day In The Life ... for a non-live album I think that it was a great idea ... and the lack of pauses between some songs was another new idea (they were saying: no singles in this one) ... so it could be a pre-pop pera (Porompompom, poropo porompompero pero!)

Hardly a concept album though. So I can't see that it was an opera.
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Re: Were Sgt. Pepper's and Abbey Road rock operas?
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2007, 08:46:40 PM »

No probs - Sorry if I misunderstodd you.
The one line format and exclamation marks can make reading seem fast and unrelenting :)
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2007, 08:56:33 PM »

No problem--Think of Hasrd days night,they realy took Ringo wrong .He was actualy

felling left out & they put in script  (LOOK AT HIM SCAPEING HIS HOOTER IN THE BOOK--SHOULD BE OUT PARADEN)

That alone stated Leave the band.
Or you can take it as you have no life.Go make one being nothing again.

theres endless ways to take it.

I took it as the this--Look at what you are doing in this point & time.
Get a grip & quit feeling down.They realy love you & you want to be a loner.

Thats how I took it.
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