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Title: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: danielcelano on August 24, 2010, 12:00:04 PM
Do you think that I'll Cry Instead used to be added for A Hard Day's Night movie?
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: Bobber on August 24, 2010, 08:48:19 PM
What do you think?
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: danielcelano on August 25, 2010, 12:19:49 PM
I think the answer is yes.
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: The Swine on August 25, 2010, 08:59:59 PM
of course. they wrote a bunch of songs for the movie and those rejected ended up on side 2. simple as that.
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: danielcelano on August 26, 2010, 12:22:19 PM
You know for some reason, I'll Cry Instead was rejected from A Hard Day's Night movie because it's full of bad and violent words. George Martin had an idea about putting this song onto the soundtrack in the US. Right, The Swine?
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: The Swine on August 26, 2010, 01:58:10 PM
bad and violent words? the beatles? shame on them! and where exactly are these bad and violent words?
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: danielcelano on August 26, 2010, 03:46:13 PM
They're on http://www.dmbeatles.com/song.php?song=126. (http://www.dmbeatles.com/song.php?song=126.) In fact, I'll show them to you since it was made into an extended version before adding it to the film.

I've got every reason on earth to be mad
'Cause I've just lost the only girl I had
And if I could get my way
I'd get myself locked up today
But I can't so I cry instead * (These are the bad/violent words)

I've got a chip on my shoulder that's bigger than my feet
I can't talk to people that I meet
And if I could see you now
I'd try to make you sad somehow
But I can't so I cry instead

Don't want to cry when there's people there
I get shy when they start to stare
I'm gonna hide myself away, ay hay
But I'll come back again someday

And when I do you'd better hide all the girls
I'm gonna break their hearts all 'round the world
Yes, I'm gonna break them in two
And show you what your loving man can do
Until then I'll cry instead

(Notice that the first verse, bridge and third verse are sung again)

So what do you think?
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: Bobber on August 27, 2010, 06:57:13 AM
I think they're not bad and violent words at all. Not even to 1964 standards.
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: tkitna on August 27, 2010, 10:50:43 AM
Maybe it was more to do with the Beatles squeaky, clean image at the time and they didnt want them to fall out of grace with the media and public. Who knows. All that stuff was stupid back then anyways.
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: danielcelano on September 15, 2010, 09:52:24 PM
Anyway, I think the unedited version of I'll Cry Instead which is 2:06 was used on the original film print of A Hard Day's Night since I discovered it on here.

http://bsnpubs.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=1281119 (http://bsnpubs.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=1281119)

But it wasn't used anymore. Right, guys?
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: Bobber on September 17, 2010, 11:00:22 AM
You're the expert. You tell us.
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: danielcelano on September 18, 2010, 02:26:41 PM
Good idea. Oh, I almost forgot. I uploaded a video on YouTube when this song was supposed to be intended for the film since it's the long version that matches a scene. I'll show it to you.

The Beatles - I'll Cry Instead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLxc7jBCXgM#)
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: Bobber on September 20, 2010, 07:43:44 AM
So you're assuming that the song was mixed and edited into this longer version to match the length of the scene it was intended for.
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: danielcelano on September 20, 2010, 10:12:04 PM
Yes, but I think director Richard Lester didn't like this song. Right, Bobber?
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: Bobber on September 21, 2010, 08:05:16 AM
Why not?
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: danielcelano on September 22, 2010, 01:28:05 AM
Because this song was too complicated. But I know a song that was sung twice in the film.
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: Bobber on September 22, 2010, 12:53:51 PM
Complicated? On the contrary!
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: tkitna on September 22, 2010, 02:10:42 PM
Complicated? The song is filler at best.

To be honest, I cant believe theres a couple threads dedicated to it, but whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: tkitna on September 22, 2010, 02:15:53 PM
Come to think of it, it might not have been included because it just flat out sucks. Besides 'When I get Home', its easiest the worst song on the album (and one could argue its worse than When I Get Home).

Thankfully I'll Cry Instead is only 1:46 long.
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: danielcelano on September 23, 2010, 08:22:12 PM
And I think the original version of I'll Cry Instead is 2:06. By the way, I think we're good.
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: peterbell1 on October 04, 2010, 08:11:56 PM
http://www.thebeatlesrarity.com/2010/10/04/beatles-rarity-of-the-week-ill-cry-instead-original-length-in-stereo/ (http://www.thebeatlesrarity.com/2010/10/04/beatles-rarity-of-the-week-ill-cry-instead-original-length-in-stereo/)

I particularly liked this bit ...

"Thanks go out to Daniel Celano for the original request for the long I’ll Cry Instead."

Hey Daniel Celano - your plan for world domination is slowly coming together!   ;D
There can't be many Beatles sites left untouched now by your quest to discover the truth behind the long version of I'll Cry Instead!
Title: Re: I'll Cry Instead vs. A Hard Day's Night Movie
Post by: Bobber on October 05, 2010, 07:02:28 AM
Go for it Daniel!