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Beatles forums => The Beatles => Topic started by: on April 12, 2005, 12:47:54 AM
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I didn't realize until today that back in '91 Yoko had Paul's name taken off of 'Give Peace A Chance', so I can see why Paul would want to lift his leg on the proverbial musical hydrant.
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I'm pretty blase about the whole thing. Whatever happens, happens.
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I wouldn't want Yoko Ono as my co-writer on anything. She's about the biggest nothing that popular or avant garde culture has ever produced.
Lennon and McCartney ought to have divided up the songs when the Beatles split the way that Chris Bell and Alex Chilton did when CB left Big Star. Made a clean break.
But I have a sneaky suspicion that Yoko knew she'd make a helluva lot less out of that deal than Paul.
And she's got a talentless son to support.
If Lennon had had any balls when he wrote "How Can You Sleep" and mentioned "Yesterday" he should have abnegated all rights to the songwriting royalties to the song at that time. But then Yoko always had the balls in that couple.
Sometimes I wonder how John slept at night.
Please excuse the rant, but the idea that someone as talented as Paul McCartney should have to cowtow to someone as talentless as Yoko is abysmally pathetic.
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I wouldn't want Yoko Ono as my co-writer on anything.
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Who the hell is McCartney/ Lennon It is and always should be Lennon/McCartney. If Paul was so flustered about the song writing credits for his songs then he should have brought that up when The Beatles started and not some 40 years later.
Mr. Kite
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Who the hell is McCartney/ Lennon It is and always should be Lennon/McCartney. If Paul was so flustered about the song writing credits for his songs then he should have brought that up when The Beatles started and not some 40 years later.
Mr. Kite
not always...
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they forgot misery
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Since John & Paul only wrote a few songs literally together especially at the height of Beatlemania up until the breakup. I think it should just be their names on their individual songs like Across The Universe & Yesterday. Having an argument in court about whether it should stay Lennon/McCartney or go McCartney/Lennon on some Beatles classics is crazy.
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They should leave it as it is, its just another showing of that HUGE McCartney ego again.
Shut up and sit down Paul.
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I think it should just be their names on their individual songs like Across The Universe & Yesterday.
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I don't understand why John and Paul ever agreed on always sharing songwriting credits anyway. I would never do that.
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I think it was rather nice of them to share with each other.
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This debate always drives me nuts. I can't understand why Paul would WANT to change it considering John is dead. Way to walk over your dead friend's grave just to massage your own ego.
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I don't understand why John and Paul ever agreed on always sharing songwriting credits anyway. I would never do that.
They were always playing their acoustics together in the beginning and working on songs together, so it probably just seemed logical. There was alot of give and take at the beginning. They had no way of knowing that they were going to be the biggest band ever.
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Yoko is hard to take. Lennon obviously saw something in her that no one else did. I relate to Lennon's songs better than I do McCartney's although McCartney is talented and did some great stuff. I think "In My Life" is a better song than "Yesterday." I do a lot of Lennon in karaoke bars, like "Revolution" & "The Ballad Of John & Yoko. http://www.jimcolyer.com
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It's easy for Paul to speak out now-John's been dead for over twenty years. He never came out like this when John was alive. And it would be crazy to try to split all the songs up-this is McLennon-this is Lenartney. Most of the early songs were cowritten-eyeball to eyeball-as both John and Paul have said. It got more distinct later-one of the first prominent examples being Yesterday-and that's when Paul should have said something-not now. The staute of limitations has long passed on changing The Beatles history.
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I heard a rumour that Yoko Ono is wanting to change her name into
Ono Yoko
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I wouldn't want Yoko Ono as my co-writer on anything. She's about the biggest nothing that popular or avant garde culture has ever produced.
Thats really harsh. Who are you to judge someone's worth?
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I don't know why it's been such a big deal lately for Paul to want to switch it from Lennon/McCartney to McCartney/Lennon on some songs, ie Yesterday.
Everybody and their mom knows who wrote Yesterday, so it's not as if he's not getting the credit he deserves for writing it.
I know he switched around the Beatles tracks to McCartney/Lennon on the Wings Over America album back in the 70s. John was obviously still alive then, but I've never seen anything said by John himself that he was p*ssed about what Paul did.
Paul has said that he was wrong to want to switch the authorship around a few years ago, but I don't know....
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Thats really harsh. Who are you to judge someone's worth?
Hey, when he's right, he's right.
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No, really. Yoko is NOT talented. I don't have anything against avantg-arde music, but I'm sure the majority of avant-garde artists are ashamed to have Yoko as their main representative. She's so pretentious.
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I thought it was always lennon/mccartney because L is before M in the alphabet.
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It's Lennon/McCartney because the syllables sound right, like Rogers & Hammerstein or Gilbert & Sullivan.
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I wouldn't want Yoko Ono as my co-writer on anything.
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But they promised each other before they were famous that everything they'll write in the future they will always give each other credit even if they didn't write it together.
McCartney broke the rule quite early with The Family Way (1996) ...
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It's easy for Paul to speak out now-John's been dead for over twenty years. He never came out like this when John was alive. ...
It's easy for everybody, not only for Paul ... and as adamzero said John sung about Paul's Yesterday in How Do You Sleep? ...
And it would be crazy to try to split all the songs up-this is McLennon-this is Lenartney. Most of the early songs were cowritten-eyeball to eyeball-as both John and Paul have said. ...
(shakehead1) Very very very few of the early songs were cowritten -eyeball to eyeball- ... even the ones before they recorded their first single ...
... yep, some little help in some songs during the Guymania (other people collaborated too, please don't forget that!!!) ...
... and most of them individual songs (theirs and the ones that they gave away!!!) ... tons!!! ... the best example: A Hard Day's Night album ... and they were working hard to finish it for the movie, so imagine!!! ::)
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I'm sure none of the people we go on about in this forum couldn't give a shiney sh*te what any of us thought of them.
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I think it's interesting to note that on my orginal 1967 vinyl copy of Joan Baez's "Joan" album, the writing credits for Eleanor Rigby are listed as "McCartney/Lennon."
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well this is what i read in a paul interview with a magazine last year about the subject..(i think i've posted it before but anywho)..here is some of it:
paul:.....Anyway, to the famous changing the order of the names.
INTERVIEWER:..Looked like a resentment?
Paul: Well, it wasn't. When i try to explain it it gets blown out of proportian again, so i can't be bothered...but i will f***ing (note, its paul swearing folks!!) try to explain it again. In the beatles anothology cd booklet the lyrics to yesterday had a picture of john above them and the creditwas ''written by John lennon and Paul McCartney, i dont have a problem, its a logo.I merley asked if on that one occasion when we were using the full names, it could say written by paul mccartney and john lennon. And i was rebuffed.
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i realize that yoko is a deadbeat, talentless, whore. but that no good, deadbeat, talentless, screaming like a banshee, whore gave john the reason to write some of his greatest songs. so they were about yoko, who cares. they are some of his best songs, and they're about yoko.
...but she will always be a no good, deadbeat, talentless, screamin' like a banshee, whore.
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I wouldn't mind the credits citing the exact authorship of any particular Beatles song. For that matter, they could just have shown "The Beatles" as the writers. I wonder why they didn't do that.
At least, George got full credit for his songs.