1. I Saw Her Standing Therefloor rocker and a half. i don't think enough good things can be said about this song, the rocking bass line, the perfect harmonies, the trademark beatles chords and lyrics. a deceptively simple boy-meets-girl tale, exhuberant and sweet, to the point. it doesn't slow down, a bluesy offering with the trademark falsettos throughout. a masterpiece.
2. Misery - Not one of my favorites and not a lot to say about it. I think the piano sounds stupid in it and should have been a guitar, but that’s just me. Song has good harmonies and tight playing. Really not much else to add.
9. PS I Love You - Another song I’ve liked forever. Pauls voice just sounds suited for this tune. He does a nice job. It doesn’t get much better than when Paul, John, and George takes a turn at the vocals. Love it. One thing that bothered me was the shaker throughout the song. Get rid of that and add some hi hats and I’m good to go.
From your comments you are reviewing the Stereo version.
'Please Please Me' does not have harmonica (What are you smoking, Gary...???) It is a mouth organ. Slightly different.
I wish I could find the reference, but there is speculation out there that Ringo did not play drums here or on 'Ask Me Why'.
I admire John's vocal in 'Twist And Shout', but it isn't a song I am in love with.
I think there is quite a lot to say about misery ;D...the solemn intro is a bit misleading as it then continues to bump along in a G major kind of happy beat :) so its like john is miserable but he's telling us in a happy almost perky way. (imagine listening to the verses without the vocals)
Now heres a little quiz guys....was this the first melisma (ba-aaa-ad and dr-aaa-ag)) on a beatle song ? ( i like melisma's) ;D
Also theres an interesting kind of key change in the middle section "i remember all the little things weve done" is a descending dorian e minor as opposed to the happy g major of the verse (the sadder dorian fits beautifully with the lyric) so thats a very interesting move by john, a forerunner if you like to his later songs that change key (and time signature)
A fine song IMO and enhanced by the little piano riffs that come in to give an accentuated feel to the 2 middle sections, i can imagine john & paul polishing this one off in about 30 minutes ;D
11. Do You Want To Know A Secretpure. heaven.
Now heres a little quiz guys....was this the first melisma (ba-aaa-ad and dr-aaa-ag)) on a beatle song ? ( i like melisma's) ;D
my only criticism of your posts thusfar is that some of the things you don't like can be attributed to the times, the music industry, recording conditions, the state of rock when it came out etc
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but hey -> at the end of the days it's all about the ears!!
'Please Please Me' does not have harmonica (What are you smoking, Gary...???) It is a mouth organ. Slightly different.
Ther...r...r...r...re......There's A Place and Misery were both recorded on 11 February 1963.
i'm a tad dissapointed that we have moved on from past masters as i was going to listen to it this weekend and comment, maybe the mods could make each album have its own thread ?
and maybe a spell checker ;D
Done, but no spell checker. ;)
haha which was written first ?
Todd, let me know if you'd like your Beatles under the microscope threads to be moved to "Albums."
i got dibs on this thread's frequent flyer miles ha2ha ha2ha ;D
'Please Please Me' does not have harmonica (What are you smoking, Gary...???) It is a mouth organ. Slightly different. I wish I could find the reference, but there is speculation out there that Ringo did not play drums here or on 'Ask Me Why'.
Wow, that was nerve-wracking. On the way the paper bag was on my knee, man I had a dreadful flight. I was just hoping I was clicking on the right buttons to do that and that the entire threads wouldn't disappear!
Wow, that was nerve-wracking. On the way the paper bag was on my knee, man I had a dreadful flight. I was just hoping I was clicking on the right buttons to do that and that the entire threads wouldn't disappear!-
(i think as the beatles albums get progressively more interesting -> so will the microscope threads ! :D )
@babyit'syou - the bbc version is a far better vocal take in my opinion. check it out
I think 'A Hard Days Night' is their first real great album. 'PPM' is a nice introduction, but with all the covers and some weak originals, it doesnt hold up as well for me.
I think 'A Hard Days Night' is their first real great album. 'PPM' is a nice introduction, but with all the covers and some weak originals, it doesnt hold up as well for me.
Same opinion here.i can appreciate that,like i say i think it's because there is a big soft spot for the album from my angle.i would agree on the hard days night opinion.
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(i think as the beatles albums get progressively more interesting -> so will the microscope threads ! :D )
I dont agree nyfan, as I said before about Misery, if you really think about the early songs they are in many ways very interesting musically with all sorts of things going on, they might sound simple but in a lot of cases they are intriuging.the early songs are excellent and superior musically in many respects. i don't think alot of bands today could actually do what the beatles did on their first few albums, they had musical integrity and weren't out just to make a buck or shout some trashy lyrics at their reality-addled/complacent audience. interesting point about sounding simple to simple ears, it's just like some people get peppers, some don't. there is nothing in-between really.
I dont agree nyfan, as I said before about Misery, if you really think about the early songs they are in many ways very interesting musically with all sorts of things going on, they might sound simple but in a lot of cases they are intriuging.
and a fine job you did HG, I salute you ;)
;yes well done sir
I realise I will probably be slaughtered for this, but am I the only Beatles fan who finds I Saw Her Standing There one of their most overrated songs? It's a decent enough rocker and a lively enough opener, but it really does very little for me and I've always been puzzled by its popularity.
I realise I will probably be slaughtered for this, but am I the only Beatles fan who finds I Saw Her Standing There one of their most overrated songs? It's a decent enough rocker and a lively enough opener, but it really does very little for me and I've always been puzzled by its popularity.-
Paul was a terrific rock and roll singer but largely due to his talent as a mimic...close your eyes and it could actually be Little Richard singing "Long Tall Sally" or "Kansas City".
Of course these tracks were the build up to John's climactic tour de force. Twist And Shout became the fabs' showstopper throughout 1963 and little wonder. Lennon quite simply devoured it and in a couple of takes cemented his reputation as one of pop music's greatest ever vocalists. Paul was a terrific rock and roll singer but largely due to his talent as a mimic...close your eyes and it could actually be Little Richard singing "Long Tall Sally" or "Kansas City". But Lennon copied no one's voice, and no one could copy his. He put his inimitable stamp of confidence on the album's finale and sealed Please Please Me into place as a raw, fresh, and truly wonderful debut album.
i don't think alot of bands today could actually do what the beatles did on their first few albums, they had musical integrity and weren't out just to make a buck or shout some trashy lyrics at their reality-addled/complacent audience.
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never really struck me until reading what you posted . .
but i saw her standing ther is like a generic type elvis song
the screech in pauls voice on 'heart went boom' is like a send up
it's like someone took heartbreak hotel, jailhouse rock, too much, dont be cruel (handclap rhythm) and teddy bear and smushed them all together
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paul said he took the bass line from a chuck berry song but....
paul's not doing little richard,,,,, he's doing elvis !
brilliant yet derivative down to the last note
I realise I will probably be slaughtered for this, but am I the only Beatles fan who finds I Saw Her Standing There one of their most overrated songs?
There's A Place is one of the greatest early Beatles album tracks recorded. It is so quintessentially John & Paul.
Paul was a terrific rock and roll singer but largely due to his talent as a mimic...
Ive always really loved 'I saw her standing there', for one, the energetic bass line is completely awesome, fast & fluid and it drives the song along at a great pace, pity imo that this wasnt theyre first single..(its a good exercise for budding bass players to play this and sing it as paul did, it takes a while to master)
Regarding the song itself, simplicity is the key, but simplicity in life is what life was in early 60's england, the words to the song are plainly obvious about fancying the pants off a girl, i believe it was lennon who suggested the 'you know what i mean ' line instead of 'never been a beauty queen', a BIG improvement and it gave the song and edge. I like the way the simple lyrics are met by the simplicity of the melody, i think the verse has only 4 notes, tonic, 2nd, 5th, 7th , curiously the 7th is flattened in the verses and the 2nd is only used once. Ive always thought the 'Ohh' at the end of the pentatonic upward surge 'I'll never dance with another' Ohhhhhhhhh.........thats a real beatles style hook just there imo ;D, the middle section, where his heart goes zoom, also has yet another melisma !! 'held her hand in mi-yine-----ine and this melisma brilliantly enters the falsetto which stands out and hooks you in.
I think the recording is quite perfect, even the handclaps ;D theres not really much for the boys to do, Ringo just has to keep the beat, Georges solo is erm............adeqaute ;D nothing flash, couldve been better of course. All in all a perfect example of brilliant pop songwriting 10/10
That’s correct. I didn’t buy the mono set because I prefer stereo.
I know there are discussions ad nauseum about mono vs. stereo, but as I know has been brought up here, mono is a different listening experience.
I once read a book and inside of it, it proclaimed: "Not even Bob Dylan was writing lyrics like that in 1963"
Said of "There's A Place"...
I tend to agree...
Now heres a little quiz guys....was this the first melisma (ba-aaa-ad and dr-aaa-ag)) on a beatle song ? ( i like melisma's)
4. Chains - Nice Ringo shuffle throughout. George’s voice is nice here. Good song for him. John’s rhythm guitar has a neat distorted sound to it. Sounds almost like a fuzz bass in my opinion. Paul’s higher background harmonies works on this song too. 1:28 John or George say something like Wow or something else. I couldn’t quite pick exactly what it was out, but its neat.
1:27
Maybe John - "S'at enough?"/ "S'at the rhythm?".
It sounds like George's voice to me though.
It sounds like John to me. I spent some time isolating/analyzing with Audacity and it sounds like John saying something like "blahh".
apparently i have been ip blocked and/or banned from this forum.
In all fairness, i've been having trouble logging in also the last couple days. Not sure why.
i was hoping it was this one, kind sir. :)i think there's a forum for people who got banned from beatles sites
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You have not. You could log in, couldn't you?*whew* well.. that's exactly true. i went home and thought about it , and realized it might be a server issue, a computer issue, or something.
*whew* well.. that's exactly true. i went home and thought about it , and realized it might be a server issue, a computer issue, or something.
he's saying 'i bet they'll be discussing this on a forum in 2011' ;D
Apparently it was something like that. I asked Dmitry to have a look at the matter.thank you, this had me worried. :-\
Or, "Why are they belaboring the analyzation of this song to death?"maybe it belonged on another song. ;)
Apparently it was something like that. I asked Dmitry to have a look at the matter.
Or, "Why are they belaboring the analyzation of this song to death?"