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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2007, 07:11:50 AM »

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Bryter Layter sold just 15.000 copies during Nick Drake's life. It's sad that he died before people started appreciating his work.

This is the bit i can't get my head round Joost ,why Nick sold so little in his lifetime when the quality of those first two albums is so very good .
What were people listening to in 1970 that was better ? i just don't understand his lack of sales , i mean look how someone like James Blunt sells today ,Back To Bedlam as sold millions and although i quite like James Blunt , i bet he would give anything to create an album like Five Leaves Left , it just does'nt make sense to me ??)

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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2007, 07:45:53 AM »

I LOVE "Day is Done"
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2007, 08:14:11 AM »

I read White Bicycle by his manager (Joe Boyd). Nick was very introverted and incredably difficult to work with. His refusal (or inability, depending on how you look at it) to play live didn't help.
 Nick himself was frustrated at his lack of sales. He pointed to Leonard Cohen, who had massive sales, also without ever having played live. He seemed to blame poor management.
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2007, 08:45:31 AM »

Yep, he rarely played live due to stage fright. I remember a story of him walking off stage at the Festival Hall in a complete mess. That kind of music didn't sell truckloads, and you needed to play live to make a living and to spread the word because you were unlikely to have a hit single that would help to promote you, and the only DJ that played your records wasn't on until 10 at night. John Martyn used to play 250 gigs a year, which is why he made it, and Nick Drake didn't.
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2007, 08:52:17 AM »

found these on youtube....

"Nick Drake: A Skin Too Few Documentary"

Part 1:
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=RPM9uRZ3tN0" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://youtube.com/watch?v=RPM9uRZ3tN0</a>


Part 2:
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=wSK6jpb5ObQ" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://youtube.com/watch?v=wSK6jpb5ObQ</a>


Part 3:
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=qb5iR7w_WQc" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://youtube.com/watch?v=qb5iR7w_WQc</a>


Part 4:
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=HAGE3ge09eE" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://youtube.com/watch?v=HAGE3ge09eE</a>


Part 5:
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=BV0p1QMS5J4" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://youtube.com/watch?v=BV0p1QMS5J4</a>


"Nick Drake: A Stranger Among Us Documentary"

Part 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=accJOyEvDeY (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

Part 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jec-soXF6x0 (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

Part 3: http://youtube.com/watch?v=BD_ZaIFIA90 (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

Part 4: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gb3FumfpnLQ (Embedding disabled, limit reached)


rare live footage of "Nick" at a 70's Folk Festival

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CZFnCdTCSXw (Embedding disabled, limit reached)
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2007, 09:04:47 AM »

Thanks JMF. Imagine my disappointment when I watched the last on of those links ;D
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2007, 09:06:31 AM »

 ;D

I've heard that there's no known video of Nick...such a shame. :'(

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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2007, 09:13:15 AM »

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is Blackeyed Dog and the last song's he did on Made to Love Magic ? as i would like to hear those last songs he did before he died.

Both on Made To Love Magic. The album also has a different version of 3 Hours with Rebop Kwaku Baah on congas, and the orchestrated version of Time Of No Reply. Well worth it.
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2007, 11:03:21 AM »

Thanks for your helpful info everydody , it's becoming a bit clearer as to why he did'nt sell so well in his lifetime.
And i can see if he was unable to perform live it would difficulte to promote him.
Maybe if he had been born a decade later than he was, and was begining his career in the 80's he would have been able to make use of MTV and video's .
 Much like Kate Bush was able to do as she's only toured once back in 79, and she's managed to have a different career to what is the norm .
The more im learning about Nick the more fascinating he becomes  :)

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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2008, 07:25:40 AM »

I was reading "10 Things You Didn't Know about Heath Ledger" and I certainly didn't know #3 on the list which was.


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3. He was obsessed with Nick Drake.

Nick Drake was a British singer/songwriter who died in 1974 at age 26 after overdosing on antidepressants. One of Ledger's final artistic statements was a music video for Drake's song "Black Eyed Dog" that he directed and in which he starred. At the end of the clip, Heath depicts himself drowning in a bathtub.



http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1580272/20080124/story.jhtml

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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2008, 07:43:12 AM »

Now that's spooky.
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2008, 09:02:39 AM »

I know right? Hopefully the family of Drake will release that video someday. I'd be interested in seeing it.
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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2008, 10:04:44 AM »

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3. He was obsessed with Nick Drake.

Nick Drake was a British singer/songwriter who died in 1974 at age 26 after overdosing on antidepressants. One of Ledger's final artistic statements was a music video for Drake's song "Black Eyed Dog" that he directed and in which he starred. At the end of the clip, Heath depicts himself drowning in a bathtub.


I'm intrigued by this. I wonder if he was asked to do it, or whether he did it off his own back? I can't imagine that it's official, as there's nothing new to promote (Fruit Tree came out last year). Not that the estate would run to having a famous actor in a promo anyway. And why was he depicted drowning? Drake died from an overdose of pills. It doesn't sound like the kind of thing that Drake's family would approve of. His sister Gabrielle is fiercely protective of his memory.

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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2008, 10:28:00 AM »

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Appearing at a news conference at the Venice Film Festival in September to promote the Bob Dylan biopic "I'm Not There," Heath Ledger, who died on Tuesday, spoke of his "obsession with an artist by the name of Nick Drake," an English-born singer/songwriter whom he characterized as a "very mysterious figure."

"I was obsessed with his story and his music and I pursued it for a while and still have hopes to kind of tell his story one day," a soft-spoken and fidgety Ledger told the assembled media, though he also said that any such aspirations had "faded away."

But in an eerie postscript to the actor's own death on Tuesday, MTV News has learned that Ledger recently shot and edited a music video for a Drake song called "Black Eyed Dog," so titled because of a Winston Churchill quote describing depression as such. It is also reportedly the last song Drake recorded before overdosing on antidepression medication in 1974 at the age of 26.

A representative for Drake's estate described the "gorgeous" and "extremely moving" clip as a stark black-and-white composition, consisting mainly of the director turning the camera on himself. In the end, Ledger is seen drowning himself in a bathtub.

The video, which has not been released commercially and has apparently not yet leaked to the Web, has been screened just twice, once last Labor Day weekend at the Bumbershoot festival in Seattle and a second time in October at "A Place to Be," an event honoring Drake held in Los Angeles.


http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1580085/20080122/drake_nick.jhtml?rsspartner=rssTicket


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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2008, 10:44:16 AM »

Interesting stuff Paul Cheers for that. We'll have to wait and see then.
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2008, 01:33:03 AM »

*Thinking out loud* I wonder if Jimmy knew Nick? I consider their stories to be very similar...both died tragically of an OD way too young at age 26.
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« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2008, 01:41:11 AM »

They were very different people. Nick was very shy and introverted, and suffered from stage fright. Jimmy doesn't sound like that to me. I can't see how they would have ever come into contact with each other. Different worlds.
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2008, 04:05:11 AM »

That's true. I've read that Nick only did one interview in his entire life. That would be an interesting read. I wonder if it's on the net somewhere.
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2008, 04:13:09 AM »

well here's what I found from http://www.rocksbackpages.com/article.html?ArticleID=410


Something else for Nick? An interview with Nick Drake

Jerry Gilbert, Sounds, 13 March 1971

NICK DRAKE IS A SHY, INTROVERTED folk singer who is not usually known to speak unless it is absolutely necessary. But Nick is not the kind of folk singer who will drift into your friendly neighbourhood folk club; in fact, if you've seen him perform, the chances are that it was on the bill of a sellout Festival Hall concert.

but to read the rest of the article you have to pay ??)
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Re: Nick Drake
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2008, 05:07:57 PM »

I've written a biog of Nick Drake in the 'Cult Artists' section of the www.rockandpopshop.com site
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