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Title: The Breakup
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on June 14, 2004, 12:38:47 AM
I'm sure this has already been a thread but I wanted to discuss the breakup.  Who do you feel was responsible?  Could it have continued?  Any comments concerning this.
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: on June 14, 2004, 03:10:54 AM
John.  Paul
Maybe.
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: Rowdy on June 14, 2004, 04:13:46 AM
They couldn't have continued on that way, and the breakup was undeniably Paul's fault. "Long and Winding Road" was the last that the rest of the band could take. After that, they made Abbey Road as a goodbye and called it quits. Thanks, Paul.
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: on June 14, 2004, 03:56:59 PM
John 'divorced' the band before Paul did.

It was not all Paul...you think Yoko's unwanted presence in the studio did not add to the tension?  Let alone the money and management disputes, the fact that they were ten years older and wanted to do other stuff...

There were MANY elements involved, but if one MUST assign blame John started the band and he broke it up.
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: JohnLennon on June 14, 2004, 06:41:20 PM
yeah it was Lennon
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: bulldog_0909 on June 14, 2004, 09:54:27 PM
[quote by=misterchaz link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1087173527,s=3 date=1087228619]John 'divorced' the band before Paul did.

It was not all Paul...you think Yoko's unwanted presence in the studio did not add to the tension?
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: Rowdy on June 14, 2004, 10:35:29 PM
I agree that Lennon may have been the bigger force behind it...or at least as much as McCartney, anyway....but I couldn't resist making a post that could potentially rile up the blind MACCA fans....luckily, everyone on this forum (with one exception) seems to take an unbiased look at everything before making a decision.
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: tkitna on June 14, 2004, 11:27:28 PM
It was that bastard Ringos fault! He couldnt get along with anybody!
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: Rowdy on June 15, 2004, 10:14:45 AM
[quote by=tkitna link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1087173527,s=7 date=1087255648]It was that bastard Ringos fault! He couldnt get along with anybody![/quote]

True, you had to put rose petals out on the drums for Mr. King Ringo just to get him to play again! Sheesh!
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: on June 15, 2004, 10:38:07 AM
It was just four guys who had spent 10 years in the same job together. Couple that with all the tension and hassle of being the four most famous guys on the planet along with everyone telling them they were all great can only result in one thing. I'm kinda glad they broke up when they did... I mean, who respects the Stones these days? The most famous garage band in the world...

They just wanted to do there own thing, unfortunately a lot of people need to reason it or point the finger. It wasn't for anyone else to decide but them.

That's my take on it... It's kinda funny, I've been in the same Beatle Tribute band for nearly 14 years now and I kinda know what they were going through! Obviously on an infinitely smaller scale!

God Bless,

Rob.
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: pc31 on June 15, 2004, 10:47:58 AM
7 years actually dude rob
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: on June 15, 2004, 11:04:15 AM
If you want to be pedantic, as you obviously do, it was 7 years in the public eye and with Ringo. But as you should know, running a site about The Moondogs, that they were together for a lot longer than that...
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: Stratford on June 15, 2004, 02:52:59 PM
I think it was a healthy decision to split up. In their own words, their disputes was making the music suffer. Thinking about it, in my eyes it was better to have such a finite period of great music, instead of keeping it going and going, until nobody cared about them or their music.

And I believe it's too difficult to find anyone's really responsible. I think there must have been several details surrounding the breakup than the media ever got their hands on. Though it's a bit silly, perhaps, I've always imagined Let it be's about the breakup - you know, "Let it be, there's too many things you don't undertand. Just let us make this decision ourselves".

Whoa, that's enough speculation from me today :)
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: number14 on June 30, 2004, 06:40:08 PM
i think its John lennons Fault and mr. Yoko ono
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: number14 on June 30, 2004, 06:40:33 PM
[quote by=number14 link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1087173527,s=13 date=1088620808]i think its John lennons Fault and mrs. Yoko ono[/quote]

Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: beatlegirl200 on June 30, 2004, 07:06:01 PM
Yoko should never have been allowed in the studio when they were recording.  I don't remember ever seeing Cynthia or any of the other wives in there every single time.  I think Yoko was a little weird back then anyway...

Paul also has to take some of the blame...

I think it was bound to happen the way they were acting towards the end... 

 
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on July 02, 2004, 12:34:51 AM
[quote by=Stratford link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1087173527,s=12 date=1087311179]I think it was a healthy decision to split up. In their own words, their disputes was making the music suffer. Thinking about it, in my eyes it was better to have such a finite period of great music, instead of keeping it going and going, until nobody cared about them or their music.[/quote]

I think it is good that there is a finite amount of music, but i wish they had parted on better terms, som you might still be able to see new Lennon/McCartney song that they wrote for other people, or ruenions.  I just think the way things deteriorated is really sad, I mean Paul and John were so close, and then like 2 years later John releases How Do you sleep.  The lawsuits and all, i just wish it was a mutual breakup.
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: Patton on July 02, 2004, 03:52:20 PM
[quote by=Herecomesyoursun link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1087173527,s=0 date=1087173527]I'm sure this has already been a thread but I wanted to discuss the breakup.
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: SieLiebtDich on October 16, 2004, 06:43:26 AM
[quote by=beatlegirl200 link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1087173527,s=15 date=1088622361]Yoko should never have been allowed in the studio when they were recording.
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: Blackbird on October 17, 2004, 03:00:11 AM
Yoko!
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: number14 on October 17, 2004, 03:06:47 AM
it was the two leaders, john and pauls, mostly johns though
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: Indica on October 17, 2004, 06:48:25 PM
The Beatles had a good run.
Like Lennon said, 'We couldnt play the game anymore', and whats the point milking a dead cow?
The end was bitter and slow, and I dont think anyone is to blame, as much as I want to, it was inevitable something so big was going to end nastily. Its just natural.

Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: apple sauce on October 17, 2004, 10:54:19 PM
I think by the time the impending break up was going on the entire band had grown tired of the "Beatle Persona" I believe John cleverly used Yoko as a scapgoat for his own feelings towards the band! Inviting her to recording sessions and their erradic behaviour only fuelled the break up! In the end I think it was all the people around them and ultimatley themselves who were responsible for the breakup! Their "solo careers" softened the blow for millions of fans who just wanted to hear them again!
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: Lucy In The Sky on October 18, 2004, 12:26:13 AM
The Beatles had been together for more then ten years which is long time when they are the only people you hang around with. They knew it wasn't going to go on forever and they were starting to ggo different ways. I think they all needed a rest and the only alternative from getting away from recording was going solo. I know that if George Harrison and John Lennon were still alive they wouldn't of dissapointed their fans so they would of done another concert together.

I'm just glad they existed in the first place.
Title: Re: The Breakup
Post by: beatleslover101 on November 06, 2004, 01:48:04 AM
well i agree with most of yall here but if i would have to decide i would say that it was mostly yokos fault but it was to bound happen that the beatles would break up and it was best that they broke up when they were still well known cuz like if they were forgotten then broke up people wouldnt know what happened to then and woulnt care also i wuznt born for the break up (or even john) so i didnt have to fell that much pain but i would blame it the most on yoko but i guess it was everybodys fault-in a way