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Title: Jane Asher
Post by: dcowboys107 on July 30, 2007, 05:34:43 PM
Everywhere you look you find rumors about Paul and Jane's relationship and eventual split. I want to know what really made the split up? And as of today, what are the two's relationship to another? Have they seen each other and made up or do they still act as if they had split up yesterday?  Thanks for any knowledge. . .
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: dirtyoldsod on July 31, 2007, 12:12:34 AM
I don't know details or anything.. But it seems that ultimately they were too different..
Paul was a country boy and she was a city girl. That could be a factor anyways.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Kaleidoscope_Eyes on July 31, 2007, 01:09:46 AM
^ Yes they were different, in the way you mentioned dirtyoldsod. I also read that one day Jane found Paul in bed with another girl. Paul told Cyn (when John and her split) that he sort of blames himself for what he did.

Pity the two split. They look like the perfect couple. (heart1)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: 834 on July 31, 2007, 04:30:11 AM
Didn't she walk in on Paul and Linda at Cavendish Avenue?
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: harihead on July 31, 2007, 04:40:28 AM
No, this was some intermediate chick before Linda, 834. I forget her name.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: 834 on July 31, 2007, 04:55:50 AM
Francie Schwartz?
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: BlueMeanie on July 31, 2007, 05:43:42 AM
Quote from: 788
Francie Schwartz?

That rings a bell. Jane Asher has always refused to talk about her relationship with Paul. Good for her.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: on July 31, 2007, 06:29:44 AM
Quote from: 483

That rings a bell. Jane Asher has always refused to talk about her relationship with Paul. Good for her.

Ive always liked that about Jane ,BlueMeanie that she's not been a kiss and tell women  :)

DaveRam :)

Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Flaming Pie in the Sky on July 31, 2007, 01:33:18 PM
She said she'd also found him changed after he took LSD, because she didn't share the "experience" with him.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Dark Phoenyx on July 31, 2007, 02:20:49 PM
I think she wanted to put distance from her relationship with Paul so people know her for her own merits instead of being known as Paul's former girlfriend.  Good for her!
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Andy Smith on July 31, 2007, 09:09:04 PM
Maybe paul was too much of a swinger before he met Linda & never took
a relationship seriously. :-/ I'm not sure if Paul & Jane would have been an
ideal couple, but she seemed like a nice enough person. :)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: 834 on July 31, 2007, 09:23:40 PM
I wish he'd get back with her now.  She's a class act.  Of course, I'm being somewhat facetious, but if he's going to give it another whirl someday, I hope it's with more of a contemporary that has grace and style, and everything that Heathen is not.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Andy Smith on July 31, 2007, 09:35:48 PM
Quote from: 788
I wish he'd get back with her now.  

Hey, i never thought of that! Wow! Is Jane single?
 :)

Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: 834 on July 31, 2007, 09:49:56 PM
I just checked, and apparantly she's married to Gerald Scarfe--the guy who did the animation for Pink Floyd's "The Wall".
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Andy Smith on July 31, 2007, 11:08:22 PM
Quote from: 788
I just checked, and apparantly she's married to Gerald Scarfe--the guy who did the animation for Pink Floyd's "The Wall".

wow, the things you find out! :o

Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: 834 on July 31, 2007, 11:14:04 PM
She's still lovely--wearing her 62 years well.  Here's a fairly recent picture of her:

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01165/arts-graphics-2005_1165368a.jpg)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Andy Smith on July 31, 2007, 11:23:57 PM
Nice 834! :)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: harihead on August 01, 2007, 12:05:05 AM
Quote from: 788
She's still lovely--wearing her 62 years well.  
Wow, gorgeous pic, 834! I hope I look that good in another 12 years.

Francie Schwartz does sound familiar. I'm under deadline, so no time to look it up.

Yet, if I had to guess why Jane and Paul never got together, it's because she had her own ideas about where she wanted to go in life, and so did Paul. So they could never quite map out a compatible future for themselves. It's a problem when you have two very strong people who are creative-- asking one to back off their career is fighting words!


Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 01, 2007, 03:44:50 AM
She's gorgeous!
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: 834 on August 01, 2007, 04:05:42 AM
Maybe too young--good Lord--it was 40 years ago.  They had no idea.  He was a young man with everyone throwing themselves at his feet.  That's no excuse, but he probably didn't have a clue what he would want/need ever after.  He found it with Linda.  We should be so lucky.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Kaleidoscope_Eyes on August 01, 2007, 04:31:00 AM
Quote from: 59
She's gorgeous!

I know! And Paul's gorgeous too! Put one and one together....but no!
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: BlueMeanie on August 01, 2007, 09:09:53 AM
Quote from: 788
I just checked, and apparantly she's married to Gerald Scarfe--the guy who did the animation for Pink Floyd's "The Wall".

She's been married to Gerald Scarfe for about 25 years.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Sondra on August 01, 2007, 08:56:30 PM
Did he leave her because she wanted her own carreer and didn't have enough time for him? That's what's always been said anyway. He did luck out with Linda, but I wonder if he would have married her had she not gotten pregnant. I mean he was probably feeling ready, but I think that had something to do with it. She wasn't into marriage at all until that happened. Or so she said. (Linda)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: tkitna on August 02, 2007, 01:07:04 AM
I always thought that they broke up because Jane wanted to settle down and Paul kept sleeping with other girls. Who knows. I dont think they ever really got along to well though, but thats just how I interpret that relationship. Almost like a highschool relationship. You tell each other you love one another, but you know deep down that they hardly ever work out.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Mairi on August 03, 2007, 09:35:17 PM
Jane was sick of being Paul McCartney's girlfriend and wanted to break out on her own. His philandering probably didn't help any either. Though I guess it all worked out in the end.

Martha My Dear is definitely about her. You can just tell from the lyrics.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: BlueMeanie on August 03, 2007, 10:10:47 PM
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Martha My Dear is definitely about her. You can just tell from the lyrics.


It's about his dog, who was called Martha!!

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/paulk58/GW397H273.png)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: 834 on August 03, 2007, 10:14:21 PM
Martha was a very attractive dog, didn't kiss and tell, and didn't mind other pets.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Taxgirl on August 06, 2007, 07:20:31 PM
I've read that they had split because Paul fell in love with Linda.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Taxgirl on August 06, 2007, 07:23:33 PM
Quote from: 788
Martha was a very attractive dog, didn't kiss and tell, and didn't mind other pets.

that was sooo funny!! ;D

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Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: DarkSweetLady on August 06, 2007, 11:54:22 PM
I don't see what she would get breaking off the relationship. Nothing basically, I still only know Jane Asher as one of Paul's ex. Unless if she did catch him in bed with another girl,that would make sense. I'm glad he met Linda, they seemed perfect for each other.  

Oh and he looked really hott in that picture BlueMeanie posted (inlove1)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Bobber on August 15, 2007, 08:47:39 AM
Some Francie Schwartz information here: http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/m-1093997676/s-6/
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Mairi on August 19, 2007, 01:04:27 AM
Quote from: 483

It's about his dog, who was called Martha!!

([url]http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/paulk58/GW397H273.png[/url])


No it's not. I mean, he used the name and everything, but you can totally just tell... it's Jane in the song. "Martha My Dear, you have always been my inspiration... Martha My Dear, don't forget me..."

Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Andy Smith on August 19, 2007, 02:34:59 PM
Yeah, like a kind of Sexy Sadie where John is really speaking about the
Maharishi! :)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 27, 2007, 10:13:39 PM
She's gorgeous!  

Wait, I said that already.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Bobber on February 09, 2011, 11:16:38 AM
(http://beatlephotoblog.com/photos/2011/02/00aa.jpg)

One would think that there's still contact between Paul and Jane. How else did Mary McCartney and Jane's husband Gerald Scarfe meet?
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on February 11, 2011, 09:13:37 AM
([url]http://beatlephotoblog.com/photos/2011/02/00aa.jpg[/url])

One would think that there's still contact between Paul and Jane. How else did Mary McCartney and Jane's husband Gerald Scarfe meet?


Great picture Bobber!
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Mairi on February 24, 2011, 08:58:23 PM
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgqahvsE3V1qe2xwro1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 24, 2011, 10:52:34 PM
She's gorgeous! 

Wait, I said that already.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 24, 2011, 11:06:13 PM
Yesterday...

(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16400000/Jane-Asher-jane-asher-16403247-311-376.jpg)



...and Today...

(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jun2010/8/2/your-life-image-2-973673539.jpg)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 24, 2011, 11:20:13 PM
She's gorgeous! 

Wait, I said that already.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: nimrod on February 24, 2011, 11:21:26 PM
She's gorgeous! 


used to be
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Mairi on February 26, 2011, 05:45:01 PM
used to be

rude
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: nimrod on February 27, 2011, 12:35:54 AM
rude

aye
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: glass onion on February 28, 2011, 01:47:28 PM
she has taken good care of herself and aged very well,hasn't she?i wish she would write a book on her time with paul.that would be such a good read.but.....jane is above all of that gossip stuff,and good on her, too.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: nyfan(41) on February 28, 2011, 02:12:52 PM
jane is above all of that gossip stuff
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i don't know anything about her
but to a certain degree, 'above all that gossip stuff' = doesn't need the money
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fact -> every time someone mentions her in a beatles book or film, they're making money off her name
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so if she, say, was in a state of financial desperation with medical bills or something - i wouldn't grudge her for writing a book
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gossip sells
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update - just googled her
it seems she wrote 3 top novels, is the president of several charities, has a cake decorating business and is an educated person of accomplishment.
way to go !
...
......
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: nimrod on March 01, 2011, 01:01:21 AM
Quote
it seems she wrote 3 top novels, is the president of several charities, has a cake decorating business and is an educated person of accomplishment.
way to go

saint Jane ?

she's got a rich husband as well
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: nyfan(41) on March 01, 2011, 01:50:48 AM
lol
what did she really do to you nimrod?  ha2ha
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to be honest, my post originally said "it seems she . . is an upperclass educated person of accomplishment"
i took out the word uperclass because i didn't see any reason to taint the compliment i was trying to pay her with a backhanded slur
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i guess if i'm being honest, she seems perfectly nice and kinda rich and . . . (boring)  ;sorry
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i'm sure she's the greatest person in the world... don't get me wrong....
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arrrgh! why do i post these things ! ? !
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: starofwonder on March 04, 2011, 01:19:02 AM
I think Paul wanted a close, day to day relationship  with a woman ....that he eventually found with
Linda, they seemed inseperable, Linda going on tour with Paul etc.
 Jane on the other hand  was persuing a high powered acting career  and  for eg went on a tour  in
America with a play , leaving Paul on his own in St Johns Wood.... for weeks on end.
He must have got fed up going home to an empty house and having to whip up his
own meal of beans on toast !
Looks like it was Paul who decided to call time on their relationship.

( You ve got to admit though... Jane Asher was a smasher ! )

Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on March 09, 2011, 06:38:28 PM
Jane's wonderful in "Death At A Funeral"
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 07, 2011, 01:56:03 AM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/fdvaja.jpg)

(http://i56.tinypic.com/35krdio.jpg)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/72gjdk.jpg)



She's gorgeous! 

Wait, I said that already.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: fanofthefab4 on January 24, 2016, 03:36:19 AM

I think Paul wanted a close, day to day relationship  with a woman ....that he eventually found with
Linda, they seemed inseperable, Linda going on tour with Paul etc.
 Jane on the other hand  was persuing a high powered acting career  and  for eg went on a tour  in
America with a play , leaving Paul on his own in St Johns Wood.... for weeks on end.
He must have got fed up going home to an empty house and having to whip up his
own meal of beans on toast !
Looks like it was Paul who decided to call time on their relationship!




No, Jane rightfully left Paul after she came home early from touring with her theatre company to surprise Paul and unfortunately she was the one that got the horrible surprise of finding Paul in their bed with another woman when she and Paul had been lovers for 5 years and engaged to be married for 7 months.



Paul was also being a sexist pig and constantly pressuring Jane to give up the acting career that she loved, and she kept rightfully refusing. Jane wasn't asking and pressuring     Paul to give up his music career that he loved,because he was a man,but because Jane was the woman,Paul thought she should give up her career and devote herself to him. She said that she enjoyed acting and she had been doing it since she was 5 years old and she didn't want to give this up.


A few people have said that one of the big reasons that Paul wanted Linda to be a member of Wings and go on tour with him,is that he didn't trust himself not to give in to all of the young women groupies he and John,George and Ringo had during their Beatles years,(especially when they were touring from 1963-1966) and cheat on Linda which he couldn't do if she was there.I have a 1986 VHS taped interview with Paul from a great interviewer Barbra Hower ( I'm not sure if I spelled her last name correctly) and she asked Paul how after having so many groupies he managed to stay faithful to one woman for so many years.And Paul actually said it hasn't been easy and that you also vow to it when you get married,and then he said smiling that it was more than his life's work.










( You ve got to admit though... Jane Asher was a smasher ! )
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: KelMar on January 27, 2017, 03:33:00 AM
I never knew (or maybe I forgot) that there was a third Asher sibling, Clare. She was the baby of the family. Peter Asher mentioned her in an interview that I was listening to tonight. He was saying that when they were children his mother was always told that she should put them in show biz. Clare did act for a while but then pursued a career in education. That red hair really gets people; I used to hear that all the time about my kids. LOL

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2rfedtw.jpg)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/2hovak0.jpg)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on January 27, 2017, 05:42:23 AM
^

Great-looking family!
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Fab4Fan on January 27, 2017, 08:23:30 PM
Not that my opinion matters one iota on this topic, but I never found Jane to be attractive at all and never could figure why Paul was attracted to her as he could have had pretty much any woman he wanted back in those days.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: KelMar on January 27, 2017, 11:27:26 PM
I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. I think she was adorable and modest, too. Even if she wasn't, I assume she was his soul mate; that is until he screwed up one too many times. At least, by all accounts I know of, he didn't make that same mistake again.

"I can't say that I'm not beautiful, because you'll think it's false modesty, but I'm not. I know I can look good if I'm dolled up. I can look attractive. It's very nice of you to say so, but I'm certainly not a beauty."

The darkness behind the smile (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/drama/3622480/The-darkness-behind-the-smile.The-darkness-behind-the-smile.html)

Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on January 28, 2017, 04:49:15 AM
Yesterday...

(http://37.media.tumblr.com/6ccf0ab74b37bc1d28d0c06cbcf8e59d/tumblr_n3jykilJfu1r3i59ao1_500.gif)




...And Today

(http://i0.wp.com/mytheatremates.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/JaneAsher.jpg?fit=600%2C425)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Strawberry Fields on September 15, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
I saw Jane Asher on stage at the Los Angeles Music Center's Taper Forum in 1967.  She was playing Juliet in Romeo and Juliet, touring with the Bristol Old Vic. My mum bought the tickets for us because she knew I wanted to be an actress and she knew I admired Jane because she also seemed very independent despite her relationship with Paul.   Jane was very beautiful and gave a great performance in my then 12-year-old opinion. Jane and Paul weren't soul mates.  Paul and Linda were.  She gave him what he wanted and visa-versa.  Jane has seemed to find happiness in her career, marriage, and philanthropic work so it all ended well.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 15, 2018, 11:47:09 PM
(http://img6.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/n/x/nxxfbuzctrrbrrz.jpg?djet1p5k)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: KelMar on September 16, 2018, 12:31:52 AM
^^^
What’s in the box?
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Moogmodule on September 16, 2018, 02:41:27 AM
^^^
What’s in the box?

It is happening again ...
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: KelMar on September 16, 2018, 03:24:08 AM
It is happening again ...

And this time no browser can save me! (I tried several.)
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 16, 2018, 04:48:17 AM
^^^
What’s in the box?


It is happening again ...



(http://i63.tinypic.com/a5di15.jpg)

But, soft! what light through yonder window breaks?

Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: KelMar on September 16, 2018, 04:55:03 AM
It is the East, and Juliet is the sun.

Such a beautiful line.
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 16, 2018, 05:06:33 AM
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/english-actress-author-and-entrepreneur-jane-asher-as-juliet-with-picture-id1018757970)

For this alliance may so happy prove To turn your households' rancor to pure love
Title: Re: Jane Asher
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 16, 2018, 06:10:45 AM
(https://engagedscholarship.csuohio.edu/shakespeare_all/1094/preview.jpg)


Wilt thou be gone? it is not yet near day:
It was the nightingale, and not the lark,
That pierced the fearful hollow of thine ear;
Nightly she sings on yon pomegranate-tree:
Believe me, love, it was the nightingale.