Beatles under a microscope - Revolver

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Quote from: Mr Mustard on Apr 30, 2011, 06:05 PM
I always thought it was "Doc" Robert they were singing there, not "Bob" ??

Your probably right. I never paid enough attention. Either way its cool.

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Quote from: Mr Mustard on Apr 30, 2011, 06:05 PM
I always thought it was "Doc" Robert they were singing there, not "Bob" ??

I don't know.  I hear Doctor Robert there.  They appear to rush the second syllable.
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tkitna

Quote from: Hello Goodbye on Apr 30, 2011, 07:09 PM
I don't know.  I hear Doctor Robert there.  They appear to rush the second syllable.

Thats possible. I looked up a bunch of lyric pages for the song and they all have Dr. Robert throughout.

They do it again a little later in the song too, somewhere in the ending if I remember right.

tkitna

One thing I forgot to mention, but need to say is that the Anthology version of 'And Your Bird Can Sing', when they are all tripping and laughing their asses off, is priceless.

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Quote from: tkitna on Apr 30, 2011, 07:18 PM
One thing I forgot to mention, but need to say is that the Anthology version of 'And Your Bird Can Sing', when they are all tripping and laughing their asses off, is priceless.

I agree.  I'm glad the technicians in the control booth kept the tape going...

And Your Bird Can Sing // Anthology 2 // Disc 1 // Track 19 (Stereo)



I happen to like the early take of And Your Bird Can Sing.  Both versions are equally good, in my opinion.

The Beatles - And Your Bird Can Sing Take2 [HQ] RARE 1966 LAST TOUR COLOR FOOTAGE

THE BEATLES Remasters! /// 9. And Your Bird Can Sing - (REVOLVER) - (MONO Remastered 2009)
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Thanks for the link, but it'll have to wait until I listen to it at home. The soundcard on this work computer is useless.

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Quote from: tkitna on Apr 30, 2011, 07:16 PM
Thats possible. I looked up a bunch of lyric pages for the song and they all have Dr. Robert throughout.

They do it again a little later in the song too, somewhere in the ending if I remember right.

Yes, they slur the second syllable again at 2:04
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from close listening i would say it's 'bob robert' but it's a little strange,was the dr. really called robert robert?i must admit to being more than a little surprised that nobody has said that revolver is their favourite beatle album (apart from todd).i really thought it was a foregone conclusion that it was most fans' favourite.shows how wrong you can be i suppose.a couple of other things i'd like to mention,did anybody else realise that paul does not sing at all on 'she said she said'?also,i think ringos' snare drum sound on 'tomorrow never knows' was never bettered.i know it keeps getting said but ringo is awsome,especially on revolver.a good story about the recording of 'for no one',apparently alan civil took the one take to lay down the great horn part,he played it absolutely perfect first time,yet paul says over the talkback..."ok,i think you can do it a bit better than that,alan".according to george martin the look on alan civils' face was priceless!!of course he couldn't play it any better!it was perfect first time and every time!
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Quote from: glass onion on May 02, 2011, 01:52 PM
i must admit to being more than a little surprised that nobody has said that revolver is their favourite beatle album

Rubber Soul is my favorite.


Quote from: glass onion on May 02, 2011, 01:52 PM
apparently alan civil took the one take to lay down the great horn part,he played it absolutely perfect first time,yet paul says over the talkback..."ok,i think you can do it a bit better than that,alan".according to george martin the look on alan civils' face was priceless!!

The look on Alan Civil's face must have been similar to the look on George Harrison's face during the Let It Be sessions..."I'll play whatever you want me to play, or I won't play at all if you don't want to me to play. Whatever it is that will please you, I'll do it."
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Quote from: glass onion on May 02, 2011, 01:52 PM
from close listening i would say it's 'bob robert' but it's a little strange,was the dr. really called robert robert?

Yes it's funny but if I now listen to it with "Bob" in my head I distinctly hear it as "Bob". But when I just listen to it without concentrating (if you know what I mean) it definitely comes through as "Doc" which makes more sense and which is what I'll always believe they're actually singing.

That said, I once met a man called Joe Joseph, whose real name must have been Joseph Joseph....


Quote from: glass onion on May 02, 2011, 01:52 PM
i must admit to being more than a little surprised that nobody has said that revolver is their favourite beatle album (apart from todd).i really thought it was a foregone conclusion that it was most fans' favourite.shows how wrong you can be i suppose.

To be fair I'm sure it is the favourite album of many, many fans. Not every Beatle nut posts on here! I remember being quite disappointed when I first bought and played Revolver...apart from Eleanor Rigby and Yellow Submarine (neither of which were "typical" Beatles songs) I'd never heard any of the other tracks before and didn't find any of them instantly catchy, which was unthinkable for a Beatles record! I almost took it back to the store for a refund...so it really does just show how wrong I can be I suppose!

After a few repeated listenings I realised what a stupendous album this actually was.


Quote from: glass onion on May 02, 2011, 01:52 PMdid anybody else realise that paul does not sing at all on 'she said she said'?

Yes... and dare I say it was the better for it on this occasion? Paul plays bass but is otherwise strangely subdued on this particular track. But I think the combination of John's & George's voices work especially well here.

Quote from: glass onion on May 02, 2011, 01:52 PMa good story about the recording of 'for no one',apparently alan civil took the one take to lay down the great horn part,he played it absolutely perfect first time,yet paul says over the talkback..."ok,i think you can do it a bit better than that,alan".according to george martin the look on alan civils' face was priceless!!of course he couldn't play it any better!it was perfect first time and every time!

I think Paul was a bit of a perfectionist, and there are worse faults than that! perhaps on occasion he over agonised about things? He was such a consummate musician and he always wanted to give nothing short of his best to the public. I don't think he was questioning others' musicianship, I think he just had very high standards and was prepared to go the extra mile to get things exactly how he wanted them...he was the least lazy of The Beatles. Didn't John once pass a tongue in cheek remark (when asked what broke up The Beatles): "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" (in semi-jokey reference to Paul's insistence they try it yet again for the umpteenth take!)

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Quote from: Mr Mustard on May 02, 2011, 03:34 PM
That said, I once met a man called Joe Joseph, whose real name must have been Joseph Joseph....

And I had a partner from University called Martín Martino.
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Quote from: Mr Mustard on May 02, 2011, 03:34 PM
I think Paul was a bit of a perfectionist, and there are worse faults than that! perhaps on occasion he over agonised about things? He was such a consummate musician and he always wanted to give nothing short of his best to the public. I don't think he was questioning others' musicianship, I think he just had very high standards and was prepared to go the extra mile to get things exactly how he wanted them...he was the least lazy of The Beatles. Didn't John once pass a tongue in cheek remark (when asked what broke up The Beatles): "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" (in semi-jokey reference to Paul's insistence they try it yet again for the umpteenth take!)

On the other hand, Paul might have just been teasing Alan Civil.  Who knows?!  It's a good thing he didn't hand Paul his French horn and say "Let's see you do it better."
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tkitna

I didnt realize that Paul didnt sing backgrounds on 'She Said She Said'. Good choice on that track.

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I'm Only Sleeping - I remember hearing Rain before I heard Revolver.  I liked the backward track at the end so I was happy to hear more of this from John on I'm Only Sleeping.  I read that John bought a Danelectro Coral Electric Sitar around this time, but it was never used on any of The Beatles' recordings.  So the sitar-like effects were done more routinely on guitar.




Edit:  The Coral Electric Sitar always intrigued me.  You all remember the sound...Joe South, The Box Tops, B.J. Thomas, etc.  An original 1960s Coral Sitar was expensive.  Fortunately Jerry Jones, in his Nashville factory, refined Vinnie Bell's original design and produced The Jerry Jones Master Electric Sitar which I purchased in 2005...





Now that's a fun axe to play!  

Jerry Jones recently retired and he is no longer making these.
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