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Title: Did John need security....dumb question....but....
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on July 09, 2011, 06:41:42 PM
Curious of other member thoughts. Do you think John would still be here if he had bodyguards/security....say like Elvis' Memphis mafia bodyguard/buddies.
Title: Re: Did John need security....dumb question....but....
Post by: tkitna on July 10, 2011, 12:04:06 AM
No, I dont believe he would be here. That crazed, psycho Chapman was determined to kill him and he would have found a way regardless.
Title: Re: Did John need security....dumb question....but....
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on July 10, 2011, 01:06:10 AM
I dunno Todd, those Memphis boys were dedicated and and broke a lot of bones of would be attackers. Not to mention all the law suits Elvis had to pay to settle with those same people.
Title: Re: Did John need security....dumb question....but....
Post by: KelMar on July 10, 2011, 01:57:57 AM
I'm not sure John would have wanted those kind of restrictions on his freedom. But I know, this is the kind of question that runs through your mind with something senseless and tragic. There's always a lot of "what ifs".
Title: Re: Did John need security....dumb question....but....
Post by: tkitna on July 10, 2011, 03:41:56 AM
I dunno Todd, those Memphis boys were dedicated and and broke a lot of bones of would be attackers. Not to mention all the law suits Elvis had to pay to settle with those same people.

I hear you Larry, but the thing about Chapman is that he didnt appear to be a danger of any sort. He just seemed to be a crazed fan that wanted an autograph. The Memphis boys might not have let him get close enough for that autograph, but guns shoot a pretty far distance.

I dont know. Its a good question that I really dont have an answer to. I still think he gets him, but probably not in the same manner.
Title: Re: Did John need security....dumb question....but....
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on July 10, 2011, 04:44:26 PM
I know. The question is a what if question. It is just food for though. But think if John those same type body guards like you said they would not have let chapman get close, but they also had carry permits and some had even be deputized by authorites. As soon as he drew they all would reacted with gun fire ending result chapmans dead, no taxpayer money to keep this slug alive, and possibly John would still be hear. As we all know we all like to think what if. Also we know John did like his freedom to walk around with out being mobbed and in NYC he could......but what if.................................
Title: Re: Did John need security....dumb question....but....
Post by: Mairi on July 10, 2011, 08:29:21 PM
I think definitely. A lot of the reason that celebrities have so many bodyguards/security nowadays is that John's death alerted people to the dangers of celebrity stalkers/assassins.

Sadly, Selena and Dimebag Darrell both suffered the same fate...
Title: Re: Did John need security....dumb question....but....
Post by: Jane on July 11, 2011, 12:04:06 PM
Does Paul have security? If he does they seem to be invisible!
Title: Re: Did John need security....dumb question....but....
Post by: Mr Mustard on July 11, 2011, 10:21:09 PM
Didn't John make some comment about firing his minders shortly before that fateful day? Something about it being his rationale to be able to walk around in freedom? Grimly ironic if so....

Like many fans I've often wondered what that apparently portentous recorded conversation between John and producer Jack Douglas only hours before John's murder actually alluded to.... so chillingly unnerving that Douglas subsequently wiped the tape. What with various remarks passed in earlier interviews and dating right back to the creepily predictive (with hindsight) "Shoot me" whispers on "Come Together" there is a disturbing aura of destiny surrounding John's fate....

It was going to happen I fear, and if someone is as hellbent as Chapman clearly was then sadly come what may they will find the means, one way or another.  :'(