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Solo forums => Paul McCartney => Topic started by: lennonlemon on July 08, 2005, 04:20:07 PM
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A little article, but thought some of you might be interested...
Paul McCartney is ready to release Chaos and Creation in the Back Yard, the former Beatle's thirteenth solo studio album, on September 12th. The follow-up to 2001's Driving Rain was co-produced by McCartney and Nigel Godrich (Radiohead, Beck) and marks a return to the simplicity of the prolific songwriter's classic, self-titled 1970 debut.
Chaos' thirteen tracks include piano-driven songs such as "Promise to You Girl" and "Fine Line," darker songs such as "Too Much Rain" and "At the Mercy," and the tune "Jenny Wren," which McCartney says is the "daughter of [the Beatles classic] 'Blackbird.'" The prolific songwriter plays most instruments on the album, down to the harmonium and flugelhorn.
"I did not want to rush this album," says McCartney. "We really made a lot of it up as we went along. I'd try something, and if it didn't work I'd try something else until it did. It was like making a go-cart in the backyard."
The release of Chaos will come just four days before the launch of McCartney's thirty-seven-city U.S. tour.
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Nice bit of info, cheers.!!! ;)
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Err I hope he doesn't waste half the concert playing his "new" stuff.
I want to hear Bealtes damnit.
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Err I hope he doesn't waste half the concert playing his "new" stuff.
I want to hear Bealtes damnit.
I think that post sums up Paul McCartney's dilemma. Many (not all, I know) folk go to his concerts because he is a Fab, and they want to hear him sing Beatles stuff. Paul said (at the start of Wings touring) that he would NEVER do this, NEVER ride on The Beatles' coat-tails, but it is now the main point of his concerts. "Listen to me sing my greatest Beatle songs".
He cannot get his new work taken seriously by many fans, because he is trapped in the past.
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He cannot get his new work taken seriously by many fans, because he is trapped in the past.
Of all the pasts to be trapped in though, his "I used to be the grooviest f**cker on the planet, wrote some of the most memorable songs of the century and helped to change the world" cannot be the worst. He has a great legacy that maybe he feels a responsibility, even a sense of guardianship for. He must be keenly aware now of his own mortality.
And all his new songs are crap.
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I'm just getting great vibes from this. I don't know why. I hear Nigel Godrich gave Paul a hard time. http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/70262004.htm
I think Paul is going to deliver big time with this record. Nigel has also made my fav. Beck album, my favorite Beta Band album and my favorite Radiohead albums so he's bound to deliver.
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I think that post sums up Paul McCartney's dilemma. Many (not all, I know) folk go to his concerts because he is a Fab, and they want to hear him sing Beatles stuff. Paul said (at the start of Wings touring) that he would NEVER do this, NEVER ride on The Beatles' coat-tails, but it is now the main point of his concerts. "Listen to me sing my greatest Beatle songs".
He cannot get his new work taken seriously by many fans, because he is trapped in the past.
It's a fair point. I wouldn't be as pessimistic to say that he is 'trapped' in his past though. Why not listen to him sing his greatest BEatles songs? I absolutely loved it at Earls Court when he did. What is actually wrong with that? Surely it's a mutual thing? Also, why not enjoy the thought of him reliving his past with this next album? Maybe he should have never tried so hard to get away from his BEatle writing period for so long.
It's the attitude you receive him with that will determine whether you enjoy it or not. I admit freely to not really liking his solo reportoire. This next album though, has intrigued me more than his previous solo releases. Mainly because he IS performing Beatle material again on tour and he is with a great, contemporary producer.
I think his 'dilemma' only exists with his critics. He just likes to make music. If the writing well has run a little drier, so what? I'll certainly give it a listen. Who knows? This COULD be his best yet.
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I think that post sums up Paul McCartney's dilemma. Many (not all, I know) folk go to his concerts because he is a Fab, and they want to hear him sing Beatles stuff. Paul said (at the start of Wings touring) that he would NEVER do this, NEVER ride on The Beatles' coat-tails, but it is now the main point of his concerts. "Listen to me sing my greatest Beatle songs".
He cannot get his new work taken seriously by many fans, because he is trapped in the past.
I agree with this, BUT lets go down that long and winding road again. Its not just Paul, Ringo sings Beatle tunes, John sang Beatle tunes, and George also sang Beatle tunes during live performances. Its enevitable. I wish Paul wouldnt sing Beatle tunes (or at least trim the 20 or so down) as I like his solo stuff, but I think we all know whats more popular with the masses.
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And all his new songs are crap.
I dont know how to respond to this. I guess you cant argue with a person who is so close minded.
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I dont know how to respond to this. I guess you cant argue with a person who is so close minded.
I meant it more as a joke. I haven't heard any of Paul's solo stuff since Back to The Egg (apart from bits on the radio) so I freely acknowledge that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Here's the tracklist:
1. A Fine Line
2. How Kind of You
3. Jenny Wren
4. At the Mercy
5. Friends to go
6. English Tea
7. Too Much Rain
8. A Certain Softness
9. Riding to Vanity Fair
10. Follow Me
11. Promise to You Girl
12. This Never Happened Before
13. Anyway
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So, no Bushie-Tushie song, then...
Damn, I was looking forward to that. Really.
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I'm bummed he didn't record it with the band. Sounds like it should have been McCartney III.
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One of the COOLEST titles for an album I have heard in a long time & it makes sense coming from Paul.
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Has anyone heard clips? I can't wait for this album. Like what I said before I'm getting great vibes.
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This is said to be the cover of the new album.
(http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4753/hoeschaos8ub.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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I read that Paul felt he somehow got a little help from his late friend George. He said he felt Georges attendance very strong when he was writing Waiting For Your Friends To Go, that he hasn't got the feeling he wrote the song himself. 'I got the feeling George wrote the song, with nothing to add from my side. The song wrote itself, it went so easy that I thought it was in fact George writing one of his songs. Not me.'
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^Aw, that's so cool! Who says he doesn't give credit, eh Ydoll? ;)
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I read that Paul felt he somehow got a little help from his late friend George. He said he felt Georges attendance very strong when he was writing Waiting For Your Friends To Go, that he hasn't got the feeling he wrote the song himself. 'I got the feeling George wrote the song, with nothing to add from my side. The song wrote itself, it went so easy that I thought it was in fact George writing one of his songs. Not me.'
What a cringe-making, mealy-mouthed piece of nonsense that is. Paul McCartney spends years telling us how much he contributed to John's songs, and how little John contributed to his. Then up pops this piece of idiocy - where Paul says George (George!) actually wrote a song for Paul to record.
Two things immediately occur to me:
(1) The song is dreadful, and Paul can say "Well, I didn't write it!"
(2) Paul thinks a phantom other-Beatle presence will help sales.
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^Aw, that's so cool! Who says he doesn't give credit, eh Ydoll? ;)
::)
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I really don't think he spent years saying what you said he said. And I don't think he down played John as much as you like to say. I do however believe he had a reaaction to the whole John as martyr and John is God and John was the genius and Paul was the fluff and so on. Maybe that's why he had to say, hey look, I was there too. He's mellowed out about it now and I think he gets it. Don't tell me that if your contributions came into question you wouldn't react. It's a natural human emotion. If he overreacted, well, than that's normal too. He's gotten past it though. Which I think needs to be acknowleged.
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Oh, and I think it's from his heart when he talks about George. This is the same man who believes Linda gave him to okay to marry Heather when he heard an owl hoot. So he's spiritual. Are we going to fault him for that too? Why is everything he does taken as a ploy or as insincere? Maybe he just has those beliefs.
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What a cringe-making, mealy-mouthed piece of nonsense that is. Paul McCartney spends years telling us how much he contributed to John's songs, and how little John contributed to his. Then up pops this piece of idiocy - where Paul says George (George!) actually wrote a song for Paul to record.
Two things immediately occur to me:
(1) The song is dreadful, and Paul can say "Well, I didn't write it!"
(2) Paul thinks a phantom other-Beatle presence will help sales.
I'd sooner listen to what Paul says than someone who knows absolutely nothing about the development of the song and It's possible that John would claim his due to the partnership if he could.
And two things immediately occur to me:
(1) Maybe we should all keep an open mind on a song we haven't heard, perhaps?
(2) Only one person I can think of would think of something like that, and it ain't Paul.
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I cant wait to hear Paul on flugelhorn.
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I'd sooner listen to what Paul says than someone who knows absolutely nothing about the development of the song and It's possible that John would claim his due to the partnership if he could.
And two things immediately occur to me:
(1) Maybe we should all keep an open mind on a song we haven't heard, perhaps?
(2) Only one person I can think of would think of something like that, and it ain't Paul.
I'M not saying the song is poor. I'm saying (as a reason why Paul is invoking George) that if it IS bad, or people think it is, Macca can say that it was really George!
As to your point 2 - you are joking, man! Paul is EXACTLY the one to think like that. He's always got an eye to anything that promotes him and his work ...
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(from another site)
Info and track listing on the new Paul McCartney CD,
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A hidden track...interesting. And "Fine Line" is great.
Anyway, about the George thing, I found it here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/4717407.stm
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Does anyone have the complete lyrics to "Riding to Vanity Fair"? And does anyone have that Vanity Fair article so I can read what she said?
Thanks.
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I can't wait to get Paul's new album!!!!!!! :D I plan on getting it the day it comes out. I hope that it's just as good as the Driving Rain album. :D 8)
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As GOOD as Driving Rain ... I hope it's better, MUCH better than that.
Since you've said in another thread that you don't have UNPLUGGED, get that.
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Come on Dolly. Lets lighten up some. I read the entire post and you've had nothing positive to say. Can he do no right in your eyes?
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Can he do no right in your eyes?
Based on his last twenty-year record, very rarely. It's no use saying I'm always negative: I try to see positives he's done (for example UNPLUGGED, to mention something that's been talked about here lately).
I can only call it like I see it.
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Are you even going to check out his new album? I'm not sure why you would but i'm just asking. Do you go into an album looking for all the negative aspects first?
The question i'm most curious about though,,,,,,,,'What was the last song by Paul that you liked'?
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Are you even going to check out his new album? I'm not sure why you would but i'm just asking. Do you go into an album looking for all the negative aspects first?
The question i'm most curious about though,,,,,,,,'What was the last song by Paul that you liked'?
Of course I'm going to check it out. That WAS a silly question.
I go into an album I've never heard before with an open mind. That was ANOTHER silly question. I certainly do not say, "This'll be dreadful because the last one was". NOR do I say, "Gee, I liked this guy a lot in the past, so this one'll be great too." Both extremes (I'm sure you'll agree) are stupid.
The last song by Paul McCartney that I liked? OK, it was not a Macca-penned tune, but I thought his performance was excellent on I'm Partial To Your Abracadabra on the Ian Dury tribute album, "Brand New Boots and Panties". It was released in 2001 I think. Check it out.
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Of course I'm going to check it out. That WAS a silly question.
Well, not entirely silly, when you stated that you rarely liked anything he has done in the last 20 years. I wasnt sure that you would bother with him anymore.
I go into an album I've never heard before with an open mind. That was ANOTHER silly question. I certainly do not say, "This'll be dreadful because the last one was". NOR do I say, "Gee, I liked this guy a lot in the past, so this one'll be great too." Both extremes (I'm sure you'll agree) are stupid.
Again, i'll refer to my above statement.
The last song by Paul McCartney that I liked? OK, it was not a Macca-penned tune, but I thought his performance was excellent on I'm Partial To Your Abracadabra on the Ian Dury tribute album, "Brand New Boots and Panties". It was released in 2001 I think. Check it out.
I shall. Thanks.
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So have you latched on to Partial To Your Abra yet, Tkitna?
PM me if you can't find a copy, and I'll make one available to you ...
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I havent yet, but i'm definately intrigued by it. I sent you a pm and thanks for the generosity.
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The link is in a PM waiting for you, TK. Let us know what you thought!
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I got the pm, but will need to wait until I get home to download it (cant do it here at work), but i'll definately get back with you. Thanks again.
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Ok, I listened to 'Partial To Your Abracadabra' and I like it a lot. The chord changes sound unique and I dig them. The piano is also nice in spots (probably Paul, but I havent dwellved into this yet). His voice souinds like its struggling in some spots, but its textbook 70's Paul if there was one in the 80's and 90's. The screaming is nice as is the horns (love the brass and woodwinds). I'll probably buy this cd just for this track if nothing else.
Thanks again Ydoll as I do really enjoy this track.
(i'm still going to find something that you admire with some of Pauls later work) :)
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TK, I'm glad you were impressed by it. His vocals show what he can really do if he has to/wants to/whatever. Maybe he struggles in or two spots, true, but not much. And the overall effect is top notch ...
But as to (i'm still going to find something that you admire with some of Pauls later work)
I dunno ...
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Wild Life seemed to be the worst McCartney album to me for a long time. But that has changed, today I'm discovering that LP in a new way, so I think, McCartney II is his worst for me at the moment. There's only one good song on it : Waterfalls. The rest is nice homerecording-experimental-s**t. I like the live-version of Coming Up on the B-side of the single, but the album version is horrible.
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Paul 30-min interview on songwriting, recording of "Chaos and Creation.." etc..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/frontrow/index.shtml
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I would like to see Paul's new album Chaos & Creation be a huge hit on the Billboard album charts but I do NOT think it's going to happen these days for a 62 year old former Beatle sadly even if he thinks so in his mind from interviews I have read.
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I have to agree..I really hope it makes an impact.
Off hearing clips from the Radio interview he done, I think songs like Jenny Wren sound like a vast improvement to his previous solo output. I'm looking foward to the release.
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I felt encouraged by what I had heard. Fingers crossed.
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I felt encouraged by what I had heard. Fingers crossed.
Same. The songs felt more personal than his normal fare and the production sounded great.
I hope we can say this is a good album period, not good for McCartney or good compared to blah blah.
I haven't heard the single yet. I've listened to Virgin. What station (UK) are people hearing it on? Has it actually been released yet? (when can we expect the vid on TOTP?)
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You can sample "Friends To Go" and "English Tea" here:
http://mcduarte.multiply.com/music/item/63
Apparently "Friends To Go" is a new George Harrison song :) :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/news/20050726_macca.shtml
Btw, the mcduarte link above has a couple more tracks not mentioned here yet you can collect if you backtrack to the page before. Can't wait for the album.
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I think, McCartney II is his worst for me at the moment. There's only one good song on it : Waterfalls. The rest is nice homerecording-experimental-s**t. I like the live-version of Coming Up on the B-side of the single, but the album version is horrible.
With some careful programming, this is a perfect album to listen to on a quiet peaceful summer day in a hammock under a shady tree. It is most relaxing and soothing. For that I love it.
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Thanks for the links....I nearly got to preview the album but alas an internet wind-up!....oh well....
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/frontrow/ram/programmes/frontrow_20050829.ram
Here's Paul talking about his songs and playing some songs like "Anyway" and "How Kind Of You". It's very nice...
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Its not just Paul, Ringo sings Beatle tunes, John sang Beatle tunes, and George also sang Beatle tunes during live performances.
John didn't play live much and when he did the only Beatle songs he played were:
Come Together
Yer Blues
I Saw Her Standing There
To my knowledge that is all he played that were Beatle songs... he also did covers of tunes that The Beatles had covered to such as:
Money
Dizzy Miss Lizzy
Besides loads of covers they didn't commit to tape but that is irrelevant.
I think to say John did Beatles tunes in the context that Paul plays Beatle tunes is hardly comparable. Ringo does yes and George did too, but Paul is the king of Beatle songs live... without a doubt.
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Yeah, but you're talking about 4 or 5 live performances John did, one of which was when he was still in the Beatles vs hundreds of performances by Paul and Ringo. Unless that's your point, I don't understand how you can compare.
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Yeah, but you're talking about 4 or 5 live performances John did, one of which was when he was still in the Beatles vs hundreds of performances by Paul and Ringo. Unless that's your point, I don't understand how you can compare.
Exactly! My whole point was that they all played Beatle tunes at one point or another, so its unjust to single any one of them out.
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This is said to be the cover of the new album.
([url]http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4753/hoeschaos8ub.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us[/url])
I just went to wal-mart last night, and at the entrance, I saw a sign showing the release of the album. It showed a different cover, jsut a simple picture with a plaing white background of Paul with a guitar.
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Im pretty sure the cover of the new album is the one Boober posted
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Im pretty sure the cover of the new album is the one Boober posted
I think so too. It's jsut what the sign said.
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I think to say John did Beatles tunes in the context that Paul plays Beatle tunes is hardly comparable. Ringo does yes and George did too, but Paul is the king of Beatle songs live... without a doubt.
Also, Ringo's "Choose Love" ... I mean, it's not doing a Beatles song per se, but there are title drops all over the place. You can't say that doesn't count. D:
You'd think Paul didn't do anything after the Beatles looking at his live sets, really. o_o;
EDIT: I really like the supposed album cover, btw. ^^;
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i know this irrelevant to his album, but I can't help but laugh everytime I see the U.S tour poster.
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Even though I haven't listened to it yet (I'm gonna do that in a minute), I got the album today. The cover is the picture that was posted earlier. I have the 'special edition', which comes with a DVD with a 'making of' documentary, a studio performance video of "Fine Line" and an animated film.
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I just went to wal-mart last night, and at the entrance, I saw a sign showing the release of the album. It showed a different cover, jsut a simple picture with a plaing white background of Paul with a guitar.
Maybe the regular version has a different cover... The special edition has a dark red/brownish slipcase with just the title and 'Paul McCartney' in silver, but the cover in the jewelcase is the picture above.
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Special edition cover:
(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/5220/00120specialedition6av.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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Just in case some of you didn't notice yet: if you turn "Paul McCartney" upside down, it still says "Paul McCartney". :)
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Ah, thanks for the hint. I had not yet noticed that.
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I really hate the 'copy controlled' crap... This album for instance has a part of the front cover, a part of the slipcase, a big part of the back cover and a part of the backside of the booklet reserved for information about that copy control system... Is that really necassary? It ruins the whole artwork... I would never accept that on a CD of mine...
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Just in case some of you didn't notice yet: if you turn "Paul McCartney" upside down, it still says "Paul McCartney". :)
Is Maaca a member of the Illuminati? ;D
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I love that he used that old picture. So great.
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Just wanted to say that Nigel Godrich is a f***ing genius. The album sounds marvellous on headphones.
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Is Maaca a member of the Illuminati? ;D
LOL! Good one, Ruben!
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I got Chaos last night, finally. It says in side that the front cover picture was taken by Paul's brother, Mike.
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Wild Life seemed to be the worst McCartney album to me for a long time. But that has changed, today I'm discovering that LP in a new way, so I think, McCartney II is his worst for me at the moment. There's only one good song on it : Waterfalls. The rest is nice homerecording-experimental-s**t. I like the live-version of Coming Up on the B-side of the single, but the album version is horrible.
Really sad about that ... so you don't like On the Way, Nobody Knows or One of These Days :-/
Wild Life is (very) interesting ... a musical party ...
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Did you know that the album was going to be called "The Last" (don't know if it was said as a joke)?. That's what Paul said in an old radio interview while he was working on it.