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Dylan and 4th Time Around
« on: February 22, 2007, 05:20:07 PM »
This is the song generally regarded as either Dylans homage to Nowegian Wood, or a dig at John for apeing Bob's style, especially the closing lines "You didn't waste time, and I, I never took much, I never asked for your crutch. Now don't ask for mine."
John said in The Rolling Stone interviews that this song made him very paranoid (John paranoid? Hard to believe I know :)) It does sound startingly like Norwegian Wood and has a similar storyline. Homage, p*sstake, rippoff or warning?
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Re: Dylan and 4th Time Around
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2007, 05:31:43 PM »
 :-/ Not sure.
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Re: Dylan and 4th Time Around
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2007, 09:25:05 PM »
Actually, I read in a Dylan bio (forget which one) that Bob played an early version of 4th Time Around for John, then the Beatles copied it, then went and beat him to the punch by releasing Norwegian Wood before 4th Time Around. Dylan was understandably p*ssed. I don't know if it's true though.
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Re: Dylan and 4th Time Around
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2007, 10:57:14 PM »
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Actually, I read in a Dylan bio (forget which one) that Bob played an early version of 4th Time Around for John, then the Beatles copied it, then went and beat him to the punch by releasing Norwegian Wood before 4th Time Around. Dylan was understandably p*ssed. I don't know if it's true though.

http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-cc/m-1130628143/s-15/    (replies 5, 7, 11-13)

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Re: Dylan and 4th Time Around
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2007, 09:51:52 AM »
I really want to know more about Bob, but he's a hard man to love. I tried reading his autobiography Odessy(?), but his style really irritated me, and when on about page 7 he calls himself a visionary it went back to the library.
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Re: Dylan and 4th Time Around
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2007, 05:21:58 PM »
I've never read "Odyssey" (to be honest I didn't even know it existed) but you should check out "Chronicles". It's got a nice, straightforawrd writing style. Not cryptic like his songs.
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Re: Dylan and 4th Time Around
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2007, 06:59:48 PM »
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[...]Dylan was understandably p*ssed. [...]
More light to their filmed car journey some months later, when Bob visit London in 1966 ...

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Re: Dylan and 4th Time Around
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 05:38:59 PM »
I didn't know that these two songs had some connection. Thanks for the links and info. I'm learning a lot here.
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