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Title: payola
Post by: pc31 on February 12, 2005, 08:44:14 PM
Payola
Payola -
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Post by: pc31 on February 12, 2005, 08:49:57 PM
i was wondering how dick made it.because he sucks,he has no appeal to me.he ain't the hipest cat around,he's just owned..its a shame.
the more i read about rock and roll the more i believe it DID inspire the decadance of not just americas but the worlds youth.
no wonder the ruskies outlawed rock and roll....
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Post by: pc31 on February 12, 2005, 08:58:47 PM
pete townsend wrote a rockopera called life house in which a rock band took over the government by creating a revolution thru the playing of their music....it was going to be made into a movie because the first 2 did well.but i guess it fizzled.
musicians are soldiers of a sort.fighting to save your rights....or are they decaying our fibres??
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Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on February 18, 2005, 05:14:27 PM
Ya know they just brought out the fact the George w. payed journalist to write glowing reviews of his idiotic ideas, why cant we fire him and ruin his career. Oh well, wishful thinking >:(
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Post by: Wayne L. on March 03, 2005, 06:34:13 PM
I think payola is going on today full blown in the music business making Alan Freed look like an angel by comparison without any controversy because most of the crap from these crappy artists of today wouldn't be played at all on radio realistically speaking from Nelly to Ashlee Simpson.
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Post by: tkitna on March 04, 2005, 12:46:07 AM
Did Townsend ever finish 'Life House'? I havent read up on that in awhile. If so, I wonder if its worth a listen.
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Post by: pc31 on March 04, 2005, 01:11:30 AM
no...some of the songs were released on whos next.teenage waste land was to be the theme song....i guess he will never finish it..
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Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 04, 2005, 09:18:24 AM
Payola's today are in the form of PR... You pay them to get you on the playlists!!
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Post by: Kevin on March 04, 2005, 09:51:56 AM
Quote from: pc31
musicians are soldiers of a sort.fighting to save your rights....or are they decaying our fibres??

No - they're taking our money and sleeping with our sisters.
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Post by: Kevin on March 04, 2005, 09:59:27 AM
Like Epstein buying enough copies of Love Me Do for his NEMS stores to ensure a chart placing.
Remember when Blondie's comeback single Maria got to number 1? Fine song, but I thought "who's buying this?" Fifteen year olds? Don't think so. And I don't know many people over 30 (surely their fanbase) who dash out and buy singles.
But maybe I'm just being cinical
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Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 04, 2005, 11:59:58 AM
It is cynical Kev..They have now stopped that from hapening over here by making the charts proportionate to region whereas back in the day, you could make a record enter the charts by buying all from the same store. Technically nowadays, it would'nt be the song that has sold the most records, that gets to No.1 if I am not mistaken. It would have to be the most sold around the UK.

Now the cons come in disguises like discounts, formats etc.
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Post by: Kevin on March 04, 2005, 12:35:20 PM
Remember when Posh Spice was offering a kiss if you bought her single?
For that I'd expect at least a blow job
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Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 05, 2005, 10:57:06 AM
Heheheeh!
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Post by: pc31 on March 12, 2005, 11:27:41 AM
not only freed was targeted but gene vincent as well.
the moral majority has big vicious teeth....
on another note chuck berry,who wrote original material,was coerced to put alan freeds name on a few singles.like he helped write them.
i thought freed was scape goated but if he used his staus to bully chuck into adding his name so alan would play his music..then i may have to reevaluate my freed obsession...i maybe barking up the wrong freed....
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Post by: pc31 on September 22, 2007, 11:00:18 AM
http://www.alanfreed.com/
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Post by: alexis on September 23, 2007, 05:13:46 AM
They have a HUGE display of Alan Freed and his story at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Come to think of it, he was from Cleveland, and it is not totally out of bounds to say that rock and roll was born in Cleveland!  (OK, it's a stretch, but they make that claim, supporting it with the fact that Alan Freed organized the first rock and roll concerts ever in the history of the UNIVERSE!!! there, so they do have a point to a degree).

Anyway, from what I read, the guy was just your basic white geek from the midwest in the 50's until he heard black rock and roll music. Then he went totally insane, basically giving up his whole life just to promote it. NOT what one might call the most responsible life decision in the world. He did a fantastic job though, radio shows and concert host/organizer. I reallly wonder how different the course of rock music would have been without him. It's tragic how he died, but I hope he's smiling that he's getting his due right there on the 3rd floor of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, right next to the Les Paul exhibit. IMHO, he paid his dues and deserves it.