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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2005, 03:54:54 PM »

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LOL...Has to catch me in the right moment...very rare. lol

In my case that moments are very scarce...  ;D
Indeed, it's very rare ... like some other songs in WA that make it so special (they are like impromptus)
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2005, 03:55:42 PM »

George could have opted to leave out Piggies, given the limited space he was allotted. For years I didn't know it was a dig at the upper classes. If he'd made it glaringly obvious, I'd love it! Hehehe!  ;D 'In their eyes there's something lacking, what they need's a damn good whacking!'  ;)
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2005, 03:57:59 PM »

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I think those George songs, Sour Milk Sea, and Circles, were recorded at the demo session at George's house, weren't they? Have they surfaced on bootleg yet? Fact that they weren't on Anthology might point to the future possibility of new Anthology album, as I said a while ago.

Right. They've been posted it Bootleg Forum some weeks ago. They were the more elaborated musically with percussion in the first one and keyboard in the last one. Sour Milk Sea could have been in Anthology 3 with problems IMO. Its quality is as good as the other acoustic versions of the Esher demos.
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2005, 03:59:55 PM »

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George could have opted to leave out Piggies, given the limited space he was allotted. For years I didn't know it was a dig at the upper classes. If he'd made it glaringly obvious, I'd love it! Hehehe!
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2005, 04:10:03 PM »

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Right. They've been posted it Bootleg Forum some weeks ago. They were the more elaborated musically with percussion in the first one and keyboard in the last one. Sour Milk Sea could have been in Anthology 3 with problems IMO. Its quality is as good as the other acoustic versions of the Esher demos.

Gosh! I've been downloading beatlegs just the last few days, but I've been slow to get access to a computer where I actually can download. Should be OK from Monday. Could you tell me if those links are still available? Is it a matter of the limited ones Bobber put out? Right now I feel so hungry to get those two songs downloaded!  ??)
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2005, 04:17:23 PM »

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Gosh! I've been downloading beatlegs just the last few days, but I've been slow to get access to a computer where I actually can download. Should be OK from Monday. Could you tell me if those links are still available? Is it a matter of the limited ones Bobber put out? Right now I feel so hungry to get those two songs downloaded!
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2005, 04:22:40 PM »

I'd love to have that Kinfauns stuff! If you can post it again, I'd be so grateful. Your'e a star mate!  :) Must go!
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2005, 04:37:38 PM »

You can go to:

http://www.geocities.com/esher_demos/kinfauns2.htm?200529

and its page 2.

P.S. You've got an e-mail
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2005, 03:09:05 PM »

Thanks Raxo!  :)
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2005, 03:20:38 PM »

A pleasure, GreenApple.   ;D
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2005, 03:38:29 PM »

What's your opinion about the demos and TWA at the comparasion?
Do you like Sour Milk Sea for TWA instead of Don't Pass Me By or even Piggies?
How about Circles? The version in Gonne Troppo LP is very similar (with more lyrics)?
Here you are: http://www.murashev.com/dmdl/lyrics.php?song_id=10454

I found out yesterday that George also composed (he said so in his "I Me Mine" autobiography):

See Yourself (actually in his 33 1/3 LP-1976):
"... is directly related to taking the drug LSD and Paul's experience with the press. John and I had taken two years before it was publicised. After having had that experience we (John and I) wanted the others to know about it because suddenly there seemed to be a big space between us and the other two. Ringo then had some but Paul would not take it. After about two years he finally did, and somehow then it all came out in the papers.
They went to Paul and said 'Have you taken the dangerous drug LSD?' and he said 'Look, I'm going to tell the truth: it's going to be your rsponsability, as the newspapers, passing it on'. So they said 'Look, just tell us, have you taken it or not?' and he said 'Yes'. And of course they passed it on to the waiting world. There was a big outcry with people saying 'You should have said 'No!'. I wrote most of that song back in 1967 but didn't finish it until much later.
 
It's easier to tell a lie than it is to tell the truth
It's easier to kill a fly than it is to turn it loose
It's easier to criticize somebody else
Than to see yourself


It was one of the tunes that I forgot about but in 1976 I remembered it, completed the lyrics to the bridge and the second and third verses, and recorded it that year."

You can see the lyrics here: http://www.murashev.com/dmdl/lyrics.php?song_id=10419
IMO it's not a great one, but interesting at least. ;)
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2005, 03:59:18 PM »

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I'd love to have that Kinfauns stuff! If you can post it again, I'd be so grateful. Your'e a star mate!
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2005, 04:16:05 PM »

That's what I thought: in Artifacts I 04 Inner Revolution 1968, but is it still available for downloading?. I don't know.  ??)
Anyway in the site above he's got 21 of the 23 and I've sent him the other two by e-mail.  :)
Thanks again, Bobber.  ;D
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2005, 03:07:48 AM »

Honestly all of them to me are masterpieces. They each show us a different side of the beatles. They all are important. :)
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2005, 01:55:22 PM »

For a fan of the guys ALL of them are important and because of their diversity they show differents sides of the guys, but if we talk about a single album and the respective qualities we have to choose, ain't we?
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2005, 02:02:34 PM »

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It's in one of the Artifacts cd's as well.

Right.  :)
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2005, 02:21:35 PM »

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I counted 10 rock and roll songs

Thanks ma_tt2. Now I dont have to bother with looking it up as i'm a lazy bastard anyways, but this should explain why I cant count TWA as a 'back to their roots rock album'. Thats silly actually.

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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2005, 02:31:20 PM »

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Thanks ma_tt2. Now I dont have to bother with looking it up as i'm a lazy bastard anyways, but this should explain why I cant count TWA as a 'back to their roots rock album'. Thats silly actually.



10 is a lot considering how many songs are on the other albums.
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2005, 07:40:43 PM »

10 (I'm lazy too so I'm not going to count them) out of 30 (more or less, don't discuss about Revolution 9 or 'Can You Take Me Back' impromptu) so a third rock album. And considering it's their album of the year with 3 good rock? songwriters it's not too much, was it? Defenitely NOT a rock album.
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Re: Is the white Album the Beatles true masterpiece?
« Reply #59 on: October 31, 2005, 10:12:41 PM »

Lazy as I am I've counted 10 non-rock numbers (almost all ballads) so is a rock album, pop one or another thing (X file). I've got the phone number of Fox? or do you prefer Danna's?  ;) ;D
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