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« Reply #560 on: April 20, 2016, 03:04:31 AM »









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« Reply #561 on: April 20, 2016, 03:06:16 AM »


And Madonna, she still has not showed
We see this empty cage now corrode
Where her cape of the stage once had flowed
The fiddler he now steps to the road
He writes everything’s been returned which was owed
On the back of the fish truck that loads
While my conscience explodes
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« Reply #562 on: April 20, 2016, 03:18:56 AM »


Dang. I want to see that Horatio Hornblower story. I love me some good horn.

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« Reply #563 on: April 20, 2016, 03:41:58 AM »

No Horatio but a little bit of the Jules Siegel article here:

http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2015/07/20/culture/1966-bob-dylan.html
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« Reply #565 on: April 21, 2016, 03:13:36 AM »






The Grossman Estate   Bearsville, New York








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« Reply #566 on: April 21, 2016, 03:48:57 AM »

http://youtu.be/seh3WQddqzs
Studio   1966


http://youtu.be/awlrMmr9eNc
The Royal Albert Hall   1966


http://youtu.be/i8z7KzB16Ik
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« Reply #572 on: October 13, 2016, 11:13:35 PM »




The first musician to win the award.  Yay Bob!!
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« Reply #573 on: October 13, 2016, 11:56:22 PM »

The first musician to win the award.  Yay Bob!!

I don't know if he deserved it more than other writers; but he certainly deserved it more than any other musician.
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« Reply #574 on: October 14, 2016, 12:43:07 AM »

I don't know if he deserved it more than other writers; but he certainly deserved it more than any other musician.

That's a good point. I'm a big fan of Murakami who was a favourite. But nothing will stop him getting it in a future year (except dying). I think it's a good acknowledgement that unique written qualities can be present in modern music. And that Dylan is the best encapsulation of this.

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« Reply #575 on: October 14, 2016, 01:17:39 AM »

That's a good point. I'm a big fan of Murakami who was a favourite. But nothing will stop him getting it in a future year (except dying). I think it's a good acknowledgement that unique written qualities can be present in modern music. And that Dylan is the best encapsulation of this.

I think Jorge Luis Borges (1899-1986) deserved the Nobel Prize in Literature more than Bob Dylan, but he never won it. However, we should not only take into account the quality of words, but also the impact, innovation and influence that Dylan had in the popular music scene during the 60's. I think he was as important as the Beatles in the musical revolution of that decade, specifically from the lyrics side.
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« Reply #577 on: October 18, 2016, 01:36:26 AM »

He's just being iconic, Kathleen.  ;)


Or maybe he's taking this New York Times editorial seriously:  Why Bob Dylan Shouldn’t Have Gotten a Nobel


Anna North is not too well-informed.  It looks like anyone can write for The New York Times these days.  She's sure got a lotta gall to be so useless and all, muttering small talk at the wall while I'm in the hall.
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« Reply #578 on: October 18, 2016, 01:53:16 AM »

Bob's copping it from all quarters

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/bob-dylan-rocks-but-as-a-poet-he-is-just-bland-on-bland/news-story/0b7d7028aa86e5d47422e3351075c9f5

I think they're basically missing the point. Yes Bob maybe isn't the greatest poet ever or even going around today. I interpreted the award as for the way he elevated lyrical songwriting and integrated a poetic approach into western modern music. At the same time penning several songs that will remain in societies canon primarily for their lyrics rather than their music. Blowing in the Wind, Mr Tambourine Man, The Times they are a Changing come immediately to mind. To agree that Dylan's work is best appreciated as song rather than as words on a page or just spoken doesn't mean it's not worthy literature. The whole point is that he works in a field where words must be matched to music. A constraint poets and novelists don't have. The recognition is that you can pursue literary goals inside such constraints.

I'm wondering if part of the pique in the literature world's reaction is their realisation that poetry is very much a poor cousin now in written art forms. A little like opera composers, very few modern poets are making much of a wider social impact compared to their antecedents. Most living poets that could be given a Nobel would elicit blank stares of non recognition outside a small circle. Nobel prizes don't have to be a popularity contest, nor is it a bad thing to elevate the profile of lesser known ar,tist. But this prize makes people consider a broader definition of what is great writing and that is itself valuable.



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« Reply #579 on: October 18, 2016, 02:11:51 AM »

Well said, Moog.
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