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Title: Across the Universe
Post by: Loco Mo on October 15, 2021, 02:10:45 PM
Such a beautiful song.  I just got done listening to the 2021 remix.  John Lennon's voice, the lyrics, and the orchestration.  The meaning behind it.

Perfection.  ;yes  icon_love
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 15, 2021, 08:37:39 PM
Loco, how do you feel about this version of Across The Universe?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iotagMCkJRE# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iotagMCkJRE#)
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Loco Mo on October 15, 2021, 09:11:07 PM
Hello Goodbye:  There is no comparison.  The 2021 Mix is transcendent.  It is John's unadorned voice minus the louder chorus and Yoko's accompanying vocal.  Also, the flapping of the bird's wings at the beginning is missing.  I really feel John's presence and seeming melancholy as he sings it.  It's as if I were in a cozy warm bed on a cold chilly night just listening to him very closely as though immediately nearby and falling asleep into a twilight world of wonderful and peaceful dreams as the song fades to an ever quieting conclusion.
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 15, 2021, 10:46:02 PM
Loco, that wasn't Yoko singing the chorus in the February 1968 recording.  Two female fans hanging out in front of Abbey Road Studios were invited in to provide the backing vocals.

Let's let Lizzie Bravo and Gayleen Pease tell their story...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOKuWy2zsCA# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOKuWy2zsCA#)
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Loco Mo on October 15, 2021, 10:56:05 PM
Hello Goodbye:  Thanks muchly!  For all these years, I thought that was Yoko.  Amazing!  What a wonderful story.
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Moogmodule on October 16, 2021, 02:42:43 AM
Hello Goodbye:  There is no comparison.  The 2021 Mix is transcendent.  It is John's unadorned voice minus the louder chorus and Yoko's accompanying vocal.  Also, the flapping of the bird's wings at the beginning is missing.  I really feel John's presence and seeming melancholy as he sings it.  It's as if I were in a cozy warm bed on a cold chilly night just listening to him very closely as though immediately nearby and falling asleep into a twilight world of wonderful and peaceful dreams as the song fades to an ever quieting conclusion.

I'm still hearing the choir quite strongly in the 2021 remix. It is absence from the Glyn Johns Mix though. One thing I thinks more noticeable in the 2021 remix is what sounds like a splice of a different take when John sings Jai Guru (at 34 second mark).

The bird flaps are only for the version they did for the Spike Milligan album wasn't it? It was also sped up quite a bit I think.
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 17, 2021, 12:26:06 AM
Hello Goodbye:  Thanks muchly!  For all these years, I thought that was Yoko.  Amazing!  What a wonderful story.


You're welcome, Loco.  That's what this Forum is for.

But you should have known that it wasn't Yoko singing the backing vocal on Across The Universe.  Lizzie and Gayleen sang a pitch-perfect background soprano vocal duet.  Yoko, at her best, sounds like this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ9weP5i68&t=44s# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ9weP5i68&t=44s#)


 ;D
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 17, 2021, 12:29:33 AM
People paid money to listen to that excrement.
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: blmeanie on October 17, 2021, 11:17:55 AM
The bird flaps are only for the version they did for the Spike Milligan album wasn't it? It was also sped up quite a bit I think.

were the bird flaps on the vinyl of the blue album back in the day, I think I grew up with the flaps.  Kind of like the james bond intro to help on the red vinyl , back in the day.

I don't have either anymore so looking for confirmation.  Seems all digital versions on spotify at least are void of these two intros.
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 18, 2021, 02:31:04 AM
The bird flaps were on The Beatles Rarities LP.  I never bought The Beatles Red or Blue LPs but I know that the Blue LP contained the version without the bird flaps as it appeared on the Let It Be LP...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we0tO0LxY8Y&list=PLZJTvVydfLTsbsv10EPA03RsSmb3cQDAP&index=27# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we0tO0LxY8Y&list=PLZJTvVydfLTsbsv10EPA03RsSmb3cQDAP&index=27#)
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Moogmodule on October 18, 2021, 04:00:22 AM
The bird flaps were on The Beatles Rarities LP.  I never bought The Beatles Red or Blue LPs but I know that the Blue LP contained the version without the bird flaps as it appeared on the Let It Be LP...


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we0tO0LxY8Y&list=PLZJTvVydfLTsbsv10EPA03RsSmb3cQDAP&index=27#[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we0tO0LxY8Y&list=PLZJTvVydfLTsbsv10EPA03RsSmb3cQDAP&index=27#[/url])


That’s right. The bird flap version was originally on the Nothings Going to Change our World charity album in 1969.   Spike Milligan asked John if he could have Across the Universe for it.
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: blmeanie on October 18, 2021, 10:48:05 AM
call me crazy, but i never had that album and I grew up with the bird flaps just preceding the song, strange days indeed
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Moogmodule on October 18, 2021, 11:58:30 AM
I see that the bird flap version was also used on Past Masters Vol2.
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: blmeanie on October 18, 2021, 08:25:32 PM
I see that the bird flap version was also used on Past Masters Vol2.

that could be it, thanks
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 18, 2021, 09:07:20 PM
that could be it, thanks


Past Masters Volumes 1 and 2 were first released in 1988 as separate CDs. 

If you remember hearing the bird flap version on an LP, you might have had this 1980 LP...


(https://betteronvinyl-static.localinsights.site/images/2018/08/contain/512x512/579afa749c198a8025606c1ee41fcced.jpg)


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/NBjCrj4R_OHpa_07R09jFfYnhrPbrwN8h5Cptxo3SQFSEvWoUfuuWacD7Zyw4V4Oc_U1i-WoQbJrS7gCK9tfRcOtkyaT)


(https://static1.minhalojanouol.com.br/antikarius/produto/multifotos/hd/20201109175210_1214998786_DMZ.jpg)



(https://images.991.com/large_image/image-605664b.jpg)


(http://images.45worlds.com/f/ab/the-beatles-rarities-11-ab.jpg)
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Euan Buchan on October 18, 2021, 10:20:41 PM
I love the new version of the 2021 re release.
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 18, 2021, 11:49:11 PM
I'm still hearing the choir quite strongly in the 2021 remix. It is absence from the Glyn Johns Mix though.


I like the Glyn Johns mix.  It's not overproduced as Phil Spector did for the Let It Be album and John's voice sounds more natural. Lizzie Bravo and Gayleen Pease are heard accompanying John with the "nothing's gonna change my worlds" as well...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auTzvaAbpVs# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auTzvaAbpVs#)

 icon_good
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: nimrod on October 19, 2021, 01:20:35 AM
Such a beautiful song.  I just got done listening to the 2021 remix.  John Lennon's voice, the lyrics, and the orchestration.  The meaning behind it.

Perfection.  ;yes  icon_love

Ive been listening to the new release also Loco and I agree, its my favourite.
Title: Re: Across the Universe
Post by: Loco Mo on October 23, 2021, 03:32:51 PM
nimrod:  I think the 2021 mix has made an important difference in the overall quality of this recording.   And I like it much much more as a result.  It's like I'm really hearing John Lennon's vocal in a new and unique way.  He was a superb emotive vocalist.  So, yeah, even a cappella, he's magnificently good.