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Title: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Strawberryfields67 on July 03, 2004, 07:02:09 PM
This is a very important battle. This is not "which one is greater",but instead "which one do you like better?"

I vote for Abbey Road.

This is going on 2 other Beatle boards as well.

Voting ends in a week.

Go!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: ringorama on July 03, 2004, 08:00:41 PM
Sgt. Pepper for me, my favorite of all their albums
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on July 03, 2004, 08:16:23 PM
Revolver because it flows so smoothly.  There is not a single bad song on that album, whereas i find Oh Darling and I want You on Abbey Road to be annoying.  Its close between Pepper and Revolver, but Revolver gets my nod.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Bruno on July 03, 2004, 11:11:32 PM
Revolver is my second favorite album so my vote goes to it (rubber soul first) although I've been listening to Sgt Peppers a lot lately
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Rowdy on July 04, 2004, 01:31:10 AM
Three of these would be in my top four (Rubber Soul would round out the bunch). It's really between Abbey Road or Revolver for me....just depends on my day, but usually I'd go with Abbey Road as I could never get tired of most of the tracks.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Crazy Diamond on July 04, 2004, 08:25:31 AM
Sgt. Pepper's. All songs on it are awesome.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Strawberryfields67 on July 04, 2004, 01:52:47 PM
The total vote count from all three boards is:

Sgt. Peppers-7
Abbey Road-7
Revolver-6

Keep voting please!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on July 06, 2004, 12:26:23 AM
wow thats really close.  Im having second toughts about my vote.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Rowdy on July 06, 2004, 03:03:27 AM
[quote by=Herecomesyoursun link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1088881329,s=7 date=1089073583]wow thats really close.  Im having second toughts about my vote.[/quote]

You should, Abbey Road is the correct choice.  ;)
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on July 06, 2004, 03:40:19 AM
I was leaning towards Pepper actually.  Too many mediocre songs on Abbey Road, whereas there are none on Revolver and Pepper.  Then again, Abbey Road has lots of classics...argghhh this is hard.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: dr.robert on July 06, 2004, 08:40:09 PM
"Revolver" for me. ;D
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on July 06, 2004, 08:52:37 PM
[quote by=Rowdy link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1088881329,s=8 date=1089083007]

You should, Abbey Road is the correct choice.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Stratford on July 07, 2004, 12:06:40 PM
Oof - you simply had to make me choose between my three favourite albums in the world. I spent several minutes contemplating this, before I went with Sgt. Pepper, though my preferral might very well change within the next ten minutes...
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Crazy Diamond on July 07, 2004, 02:08:58 PM
NOOO! Sgt. Pepper's or Abbey Road should win. :(
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Hannah on July 07, 2004, 03:26:16 PM
@zepfan
maybe next time ;-)
I voted for Revolver.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on July 07, 2004, 07:30:32 PM
there you go Hannah.  Nice choice
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: TenBobNote on July 08, 2004, 12:07:55 AM
My favorite of those three is definately Abbey Road. Mean Mr. Mustard is one of my favorite Beatles songs, top five at least. Of course, as we all know (or should know), the greatest Beatle's album/any album is The White Album. As of right now I'm stuck on Martha My Dear. I can't stop lisetening to it. "...take a good look around you, take a good look you're bound to see."
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: broady on July 08, 2004, 03:48:30 AM
I really like them all - but I went for Sgt. Peppers...!

I don't listen to Abbey Road as much as the others, not sure why..
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: tkitna on July 09, 2004, 05:04:02 PM
Revolver! The strongest from point A to point B in my opinion.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: An Apple Beatle on July 12, 2004, 10:59:17 PM
It's got to be Abbey Rd. for me. Does change from time to time though. Always find my way back to The Rd. It is the last of their recordings together and means more.

Never easy to answer straightforwardly with The Beatles...again soooo much quality to choose from.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on July 17, 2004, 01:06:34 AM
Come Together, Something, Maxwell's Silver Hammer, Octopus' Garden, Oh! Darlin, Here Comes The Sun, The final suite, and the 40 seconds of Her Majesty decimate the rest.  NONE of those are mediocre.

Abbey Road all the way!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: pc31 on July 17, 2004, 10:05:16 PM
i'm glad my wife drives a revolver........
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: number14 on July 18, 2004, 12:55:12 AM
Abbey Road kicks all their butts. I have never liked revolver that much... Seargant peppers is ok but not compared to abbey road...
it is the corect choice.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: StrawberryFieldsforMe on July 19, 2004, 12:22:56 AM
Of those choices, I'd say Revolver.

Everyone knows that Rubber Soul owns Revolver, though. ;)
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on July 21, 2004, 10:07:06 PM
Really, I didn't know that. 
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Rowdy on July 21, 2004, 11:24:51 PM
Yeah, I definitely didn't either.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Strawberryfields67 on August 06, 2004, 03:23:00 PM
I think it does.

Oh BTW,as you can tel,Abbey Road owned everyone in the contest. I forgot the score,but

Abbey Road #1
Revolver #2
Sgt. Pepper #3.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: number14 on August 06, 2004, 04:50:02 PM
[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1088881329,s=20 date=1090026394]Come Together, Something, Maxwell's Silver Hammer, Octopus' Garden, Oh! Darlin, Here Comes The Sun, The final suite, and the 40 seconds of Her Majesty decimate the rest.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: on August 24, 2004, 10:17:27 PM
Abbey Road
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: luvsthebeatles on August 27, 2004, 05:55:14 PM
Revolver has always been one of my favorites. It was pretty DARN hard though!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on December 21, 2004, 08:19:43 AM
[quote by=StrawberryFieldsforMe link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1088881329,s=23 date=1090196576]Of those choices, I'd say Revolver.

Everyone knows that Rubber Soul owns Revolver, though. ;)[/quote]

Rubber Soul is great, but "What Goes On" ruins it from being fully listenable for me....the best Beatles album IMO is Revolver, but The White Album is my favorite
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on December 21, 2004, 09:46:06 PM
Sgt. Pepper's.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Indica on December 21, 2004, 10:06:53 PM
Revolver.

I cant understand how Abbey Road always gets votes....out of all the albums, I'd say this sounds least like 'The Beatles'. The sound had gone.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Will Campbell on December 21, 2004, 11:26:48 PM
I voted for Abbey Road.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: An Apple Beatle on December 21, 2004, 11:36:56 PM
^Word!Superbly defined. ;)
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Indica on December 22, 2004, 12:01:49 AM
I have to admit, your explanation has made me slap it on!
I agree totaly, which is odd, as it goes against my original opinion..but my only nagging feeling, is that the 'band state' was gone, and even if it can be heard on track its not all 4.
Nevertheless, the skill of playing..is...super.

maturity in the form of wine..
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Will Campbell on December 22, 2004, 12:22:32 AM
It's all in how you interpret it Indica.  It may be just the production and the engineering, but it sounds great.  I think secretly they did know there was going to be no more projects and they wanted to go out with a bang. 

My favourite album changes depending on my mood but there's really no denying their ability to craft songs.  They didn't just write them.  Bands of their era and many bands since just haven't grasped that idea.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: number14 on December 22, 2004, 06:16:51 PM
[quote by=number14 link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1088881329,s=22 date=1090112112]Abbey Road kicks all their butts. I have never liked revolver that much... Seargant peppers is ok but not compared to abbey road...
it is the corect choice.[/quote]

i take back what i said
seargant peppers
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Lumiere on March 13, 2005, 04:29:58 PM
I'm not too fond of Pepper, so it's down to Abbey Road and Revolver.

Abbey Road, by a tiny, tiny margin.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: lennonlemon on March 13, 2005, 04:53:27 PM
revolver without a doubt. other albums may have a few better songs, but this album was consistent from beginning to end.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: GL on March 13, 2005, 05:52:58 PM
Those are actually my three favourite beatles albums, so it was really, really hard for me to choose my absolute favourite of the bunch. I ended up voting for Abbey Road, though, since side two of it is probably my favourite side of any album ever.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: In Blue Hawaii on March 16, 2005, 04:05:33 PM
Pepper (thumbsup)

..mono Pepper. Gotta love the muddy mix.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Wayne L. on March 16, 2005, 04:57:24 PM
Abbey Road is creatively, musically & artistically superior to Revolver & Sgt. Pepper because it's a solid classic rock album.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mushmouth on March 16, 2005, 06:02:28 PM
Pepper
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on March 16, 2005, 06:38:31 PM
Quote from: Wayne L.
Abbey Road is creatively, musically & artistically superior to Revolver & Sgt. Pepper because it's a solid classic rock album.

I'm interested in why you said this. It's pretty obvious that Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's are both creatively better than Abbey Road, whether someone likes Abbey Road better or not. Abbey Road... well, even though I don't like it that much, I realize it's a good album, but it doesn't push the envelope in the way that Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's do.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Indica on March 16, 2005, 07:34:18 PM
Becasue its solid classic rock, means its better?

hmm.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 16, 2005, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: Wayne_L.
Abbey Road is creatively, musically & artistically superior to Revolver & Sgt. Pepper because it's a solid classic rock album.

I've got to disagree VERY STRONGLY with you there Wayne. Most of Abbey Road is not what most informed people would call "ROCK". And I'm surprised you do.

Abbey Road has a lot of what I like to call "punched-up MOR" stuff. I have in  mind here Maxwell, Darling, and the medleys from Money onwards. Very smooth, very ordered, very not-in-your-face. Even Oh Darling and parts of the medleys feel contrived ("Now we'll do a fast number. Oh, and we must add some more bass to that track from yesterday.")

As you would expect, the "genuine" rock comes from the largely uninterested Lennon, when he does Come Together and I Want You.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 16, 2005, 08:46:54 PM
Quote from: Mairi

I'm interested in why you said this. It's pretty obvious that Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's are both creatively better than Abbey Road, whether someone likes Abbey Road better or not. Abbey Road... well, even though I don't like it that much, I realize it's a good album, but it doesn't push the envelope in the way that Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's do.

I'm going with Mairi on this one, Wayne.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Taxman on March 18, 2005, 04:33:06 AM
revolver... a week ago it would've been abbey road
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: flux on March 18, 2005, 04:42:14 AM
Abbey Road was Great.
 All Rock wasn't the intention. The Beatles were breaking up. I don't think anyone really cared at the time. Historically it was still miles ahead of the competition when it was released. Come Together and Oh Darling had sounds, textures and riffs that were ground-breaking. I Want You can be considered early Heavy Metal.
The band was kicking hard on the medley on side two. The Beatles were always about diversity in their albums. Ballads, rockers, vocals, whimsical tunes.  Abbey Road is just another stellar example.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 18, 2005, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: flux
Abbey Road was Great.
 All Rock wasn't the intention. The Beatles were breaking up. I don't think anyone really cared at the time. Historically it was still miles ahead of the competition when it was released. Come Together and Oh Darling had sounds, textures and riffs that were ground-breaking. I Want You can be considered early Heavy Metal.
The band was kicking hard on the medley on side two. The Beatles were always about diversity in their albums. Ballads, rockers, vocals, whimsical tunes.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: slimjim on April 06, 2005, 02:19:41 AM
Sergeant Pepper is the greatest of them all, I feel. It usd to blow my mind when I listened to it as a kid, and with the right kind of ears I can remember what it was like to be so affected by it.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: slimjim on April 06, 2005, 02:23:16 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

I've got to disagree VERY STRONGLY with you there Wayne. Most of Abbey Road is not what most informed people would call "ROCK". And I'm surprised you do.

Abbey Road has a lot of what I like to call "punched-up MOR" stuff.

To be frank that's something of a modern perspective. Abbey Road is really a rock album, through and through, it only sounds a little like MOR to a degree today because of the way our perceptions have shifted. A lot of Meatloaf's Bat Out Of Hell album sounds like bland MOR to me now, for example, but in its time it was definitely a rock album in essence.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Jessi on April 06, 2005, 04:15:12 AM
Abbey Road is definitely my favorite.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 06, 2005, 08:29:30 PM
Quote from: slimjim

To be frank that's something of a modern perspective. Abbey Road is really a rock album, through and through, it only sounds a little like MOR to a degree today because of the way our perceptions have shifted. A lot of Meatloaf's Bat Out Of Hell album sounds like bland MOR to me now, for example, but in its time it was definitely a rock album in essence.

To be even franker, most of Abbey Road is "pop" - and doesn't come close to rock. We knew it then and many were quite disappointed with the album - but knew it was down to Macca!

The Beatles' music encompassed many "styles". Comfortable toe-tapping numbers were a McCartney forte: and Road is filled with them. Shall I list them? Maxwell, Money, Bathroom, Slumbers, Weight, The End from Macca; Something from George; Octopus from Ringo; King, Mustard, Pam from John.

I s'pose you could call Oh Darling rock. Because is a pseud's song (clearly largely written by Yoko). That leaves three good 'uns: Together, Something, Here Comes.

To be even franker still, Abbey Road is well, well overrated. At the moment it's 'in' to class Pepper as overrated. In ten years, people will be saying the same about Road. Then they'll be right!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: GL on April 06, 2005, 09:45:05 PM
I dont' necessarily think it's "in" to classify any Beatles record as overrated. And I don't think Abbey Road is even remotely overrated. Although Revolver and Sgt. Pepper were obviously far more innovative than Abbey Road, that doesn't mean that anyone who thinks Abbey Road is better than the others is wrong to do so.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 06, 2005, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: GL
I dont' necessarily think it's "in" to classify any Beatles record as overrated. And I don't think Abbey Road is even remotely overrated. Although Revolver and Sgt. Pepper were obviously far more innovative than Abbey Road, that doesn't mean that anyone who thinks Abbey Road is better than the others is wrong to do so.

I beg your pardon, but it most definitely is the in-thing these days to class Pepper as overrated. Read the forums: over and over, many fans put Pepper down.

If you don't think Road is overrated, tell me where on Road is the creativity and innovation (which the Beatles were famous for)? Abbey Road is a journeyman album. John had long lost interest (he pops up now and then during the sessions, but sustained commitment - nope). George gets a couple of golden moments, but should have had much more - he had the GOOD songs. Ringo was allowed a novelty song.

As many a wag has said over the years: Abbey Road: Paul's first solo album.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: lennonlemon on April 06, 2005, 10:57:57 PM
I like Abbey Road and my opinion on whether it's overrated is probably a good medium between gl and ydoll's opinions. Nothing innovative happenend and there are numerous songs I could do without (like Her Majesty), but their musicianship was at its peak on this album (especially Paul) and you got to love Come Together, Something and Here Comes the Sun. Wish they would have replaced some of the bad tunes with other George tunes though.

I have nothing agaisnt all you Abbey Road lvoers, but I'm a tad-bit surprised its winng and winning by a lot.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 07, 2005, 01:27:41 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

I beg your pardon, but it most definitely is the in-thing these days to class Pepper as overrated. Read the forums: over and over, many fans put Pepper down.

If you don't think Road is overrated, tell me where on Road is the creativity and innovation (which the Beatles were famous for)? Abbey Road is a journeyman album. John had long lost interest (he pops up now and then during the sessions, but sustained commitment - nope). George gets a couple of golden moments, but should have had much more - he had the GOOD songs. Ringo was allowed a novelty song.

As many a wag has said over the years: Abbey Road: Paul's first solo album.

Hmm, Oh! Darling, Maxwell, Money, Window, and the suite (which I consider one song tied together).
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on April 07, 2005, 02:01:34 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

As many a wag has said over the years: Abbey Road: Paul's first solo album.


Personally I find Abbey Road too inconsistent to be in a class with most Beatles albums, but I fail to see how it is Mcartneys first solo album.  Look at the song breakdown
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 07, 2005, 02:20:41 AM
Quote from: Herecomesyoursun


Personally I find Abbey Road too inconsistent to be in a class with most Beatles albums, but I fail to see how it is Mcartneys first solo album.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 07, 2005, 07:10:49 AM
The push to do an album comes from McCartney. The medley idea comes from McCartney. The structure of many songs (arrangement, instruments, etc) comes from McCartney.

Lennon had lost interest, as all know, in the Beatles as a group. Only two GOOD songs for Road, the rest are fragments or Yoko-penned.

George has many good songs on offer, but Paul doesn't commit to anything except Sun, and the McCartney-like sugary Something.

Not a Macca album - come on!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 07, 2005, 07:13:12 AM
Quote from: Frightwolf
Revolver is more of a solo album for Paul than Abbey Road will ever be.

Truly one of the more ignorant statements made on this board. If any album was a group effort, with them all totally committed, it was REVOLVER!

I'm sorry to be harsh Frightwolf, but ya gotta face facts man!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 07, 2005, 08:12:06 AM
Abbey RD. laregely was constructed from a lot of old material The Beatles had lying around unfinished. Which tracks were Yoko Penned?
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Sondra on April 07, 2005, 09:21:51 AM
Not even trying to hide the bias against McCartney now. Making things up just to make Paul look bad. They all agreed to do the album because they knew Let It Be was not a fitting ending to their career as Beatles. They say this on the Anthology documentary as well as in several interviews.

McCartney commiting only to certain George songs? Right. We all know he wasn't too keen on George getting more than 2 songs on an album, but where is the proof that HE had the last say about what George songs ended up on an album. Proof, not just conjecture. BTW, they are both great songs. More than worthy of being there.

And I think it's news to ALL of us to find out that Yoko, wrote any of John's songs. Partly because I'm thinking it didn't happen. But again, proof.

Oh, and Something a McCartney like sugary song??? This is one of George's great accomplishments. It's a beautiful song and it's a put down to George the way YOUR comparing it to McCartney. Although I think most would agree that comparing it to McCartney's writing in his Beatle days is HARDLY a put down and more of a compliment.

Oh well, everyone has their theories. Mostly based on years of rumors and misinformation. Not to mention how our personal biases effect what we believe to be fact. I know I have mine too.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: In Blue Hawaii on April 07, 2005, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
The push to do an album comes from McCartney. The medley idea comes from McCartney. The structure of many songs (arrangement, instruments, etc) comes from McCartney.

Lennon had lost interest, as all know, in the Beatles as a group.

I agree, but even Paul and George were losing interest in the Beatles as a group at that time. Klein's lawyer's coming in, Paul's lawyers coming in, it was a war zone. But judging what I hear on the record, the guys are having a ball! :)
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: In Blue Hawaii on April 07, 2005, 10:24:38 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
At the moment it's 'in' to class Pepper as overrated.

At the moment it's "in" to say that it's "in" to class Pepper as overrated.

 ;D
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 07, 2005, 07:17:22 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

Truly one of the more ignorant statements made on this board. If any album was a group effort, with them all totally committed, it was REVOLVER!

I'm sorry to be harsh Frightwolf, but ya gotta face facts man!

They may have been committed to the album, but the album certainly SOUNDS like it's a Macca album.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 07, 2005, 08:45:12 PM
Quote from: Maccalvr
Not even trying to hide the bias against McCartney now. Making things up just to make Paul look bad. They all agreed to do the album because they knew Let It Be was not a fitting ending to their career as Beatles. They say this on the Anthology documentary as well as in several interviews.

McCartney commiting only to certain George songs? Right. We all know he wasn't too keen on George getting more than 2 songs on an album, but where is the proof that HE had the last say about what George songs ended up on an album. Proof, not just conjecture. BTW, they are both great songs. More than worthy of being there.

And I think it's news to ALL of us to find out that Yoko, wrote any of John's songs. Partly because I'm thinking it didn't happen. But again, proof.

Oh, and Something a McCartney like sugary song??? This is one of George's great accomplishments. It's a beautiful song and it's a put down to George the way YOUR comparing it to McCartney. Although I think most would agree that comparing it to McCartney's writing in his Beatle days is HARDLY a put down and more of a compliment.

Oh well, everyone has their theories. Mostly based on years of rumors and misinformation. Not to mention how our personal biases effect what we believe to be fact. I know I have mine too.

And all this from someone who used to call herself Maccalvr.

Just a few things: they didn't all "agree" to do the album. They didn't know it was to be their last. They were pushed and bullied by McCartney. What they may say today is colored by hindsight (or Macca revisionism in his case).

SOMETHING: well overrated, as I've said before. Naff lyrics for a start. It's pleasant enough, but the fact that YOU (Sandra) think it's one of his great accomplishments shows how Macca-sugary it is!

Your comment about Yoko and Apple Beatle's asking which song by Yoko shows a sore lack of understanding of the joko thing.

Because is the Yoko-penned thing (or at the very least, huge input). The goofy "because the sky is blue, it turns me on" stuff brands it Yoko straight off. And you do know  the cliches in Imagine come largely from the Ono brain? No? You didn't know that? Go read Grapefruit.

I don't know why, but I'm still amazed at what the macca-lovers will say the moment their lad gets criticised! Kind of makes me want to stir things up even more ...
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 07, 2005, 08:48:08 PM
Quote from: Frightwolf

They may have been committed to the album, but the album certainly SOUNDS like it's a Macca album.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 07, 2005, 09:17:06 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

I think that rave is so wide of reality, so far off the mark, that I blush for you. I don't think you understand the Beatles at all. But that's OK. No one's gonna die because of that!

The minute you can refute George's, "We thought we should do one better for Abbey Road," comment he made on the Anthology, I'll accept your premature opening.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 07, 2005, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

I don't know why, but I'm still amazed at what the macca-lovers will say the moment their lad gets criticised! Kind of makes me want to stir things up even more ...

In a sense, trolling.  No wait, it is trolling.  Watch yourself, Maria.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Fried_Chicken on April 07, 2005, 09:32:12 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

I think that rave is so wide of reality, so far off the mark, that I blush for you. I don't think you understand the Beatles at all. But that's OK. No one's gonna die because of that!

PAul is the best. Shut up
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Sondra on April 07, 2005, 11:29:17 PM
Ydoll, there really is no talking to you. You're very rude and never, ever give anyone else the benefit of the doubt. I've had debates before with people who have very strong convictions, but all had the guts to admit when they were wrong. You cannot. So it's useless. Think what you want. You have some sort of God complex for Lennon and think McCartney is trite. Okay. I called myself Maccalvr because that's who got me into the Beatles when I was 6. I'm not blind to Lennon's genius, and I'm well aware of accomplishments. I wasn't sticking up for Paul in my post, I was debating your statements as I do not believer them to be facts. Tell me to go read Grapefruit when your the one who says JOhn speaks out of his ass half the time? Good one. You think Yoko's any better? Did you actaully believe she was playing keyboards on stage with John too? Anyway, I think you have a lot of knowledge of the Beatles, and post great things when you are not being condescending. I think there's a way to debate without throwing in that sort of attitude which obviously doesn't fly well with most people.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: lennonlemon on April 07, 2005, 11:41:59 PM
something, a bad song?

that's like saying the beatles were a bad band.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 08, 2005, 12:33:16 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
Ydoll, there really is no talking to you. You're very rude and never, ever give anyone else the benefit of the doubt. I've had debates before with people who have very strong convictions, but all had the guts to admit when they were wrong. You cannot. So it's useless. Think what you want. You have some sort of God complex for Lennon and think McCartney is trite. Okay. I called myself Maccalvr because that's who got me into the Beatles when I was 6. I'm not blind to Lennon's genius, and I'm well aware of accomplishments. I wasn't sticking up for Paul in my post, I was debating your statements as I do not believer them to be facts. Tell me to go read Grapefruit when your the one who says JOhn speaks out of his ass half the time? Good one. You think Yoko's any better? Did you actaully believe she was playing keyboards on stage with John too? Anyway, I think you have a lot of knowledge of the Beatles, and post great things when you are not being condescending. I think there's a way to debate without throwing in that sort of attitude which obviously doesn't fly well with most people.

What's amazing with Ydoll is that he/she (Maria, Ydoll, whichever gender he/she wants to be) tells us that we're off-base, wrong, this that this that, but who's agreeing with YDoll? He/she is agreeing with him/herself, and that's it.  So who's off-base? Ydoll.

Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Bruno on April 08, 2005, 01:47:27 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn


SOMETHING: well overrated, as I've said before. Naff lyrics for a start. It's pleasant enough, but the fact that YOU (Sandra) think it's one of his great accomplishments shows how Macca-sugary it is!

 ...

I don't think you have a clue of what you're talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!

!!!


Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Bruno on April 08, 2005, 01:47:36 AM
!!!!
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Post by: Frightwolf on April 08, 2005, 02:44:57 AM
Quote from: Bruno
!!!!

LMAO  :D :D :D

I've been talking about those Maria-like exclamation marks for the longest time.  Gawd, they're so stupid.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Sondra on April 08, 2005, 02:50:02 AM
I love the fact that because I(Sandra) think Something is one of George's greatest accomplishments means that it MUST be Maccalike. Hey, maybe that's why it was such a hit. I didn't know I had that much power in my musical tastes for someone to come to THAT conclusion. And nevermind all the music critics, fellow musicians, and tons of Beatles and non Beatles fans alike that made it the only number 1 off of Abbey Road, all think the song is outstanding. Or the fact that it always earns a place on any 100 greatest songs list. No, they're all wrong because I(Sandra) happen to think it's a great song. There's no logic to that AT ALL. Jeez, I have such horrible musical taste because I like Paul McCartney's Beatles songs. What's wrong with me? If you follow that logic, then the fact that I love A Day in the Life, then it must be sugary and Paul like. Or any other song for that matter. It just makes NO sense at all.

 ::)

Here's one critics review of the song, the same sentiment you'll find in probably ALL reviews of this song. Done by people who are qualified that is.

One of the pluses of the
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 03:41:38 AM
Well, such a lot to reply to. We'll concentrate on why Something is not a great song, shall we? BTW, I never, never said it was bad. My opinion is that it's very sugary, and has some naff lyrics.

I find love songs that are basically "I adore, I love you" silly. I think they are a lowest common denominator song, with an audience to be sure. Something for me is like this. Compare it to McCartney's For No One (folk always forget that I also praise him, as well as condemn). It has a very sophisticated set of lyrics, compared to Something. Do a search on For No One on this forum, and you'll get what I've said about it, if you've missed it.

Naff lyrics? Oh yes. "I don't want to leave her now, you know I believe and how". That rhyme is just silly, and for me wrecks any mood the song has. More: "You stick around ..." Stick around? And Frank Sinatra a judge? Lordy, all he could do was sing! And what rubbish he did sing! He even thought it was a L/McC song! Sheesh, don't use him as ammo.

George Harrison rose to some great heights as a song writer. Something is not one of them (imo, remember). Macca did some great things with the Beatles, as all know. His part in ABBEY ROAD is NOT to his eternal credit.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 03:43:49 AM
Quote from: Frightwolf

What's amazing with Ydoll is that he/she (Maria, Ydoll, whichever gender he/she wants to be) tells us that we're off-base, wrong, this that this that, but who's agreeing with YDoll? He/she is agreeing with him/herself, and that's it.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 08, 2005, 03:44:57 AM
LoL, it's not gang mentality -- you're telling us we're all wrong.  I'd say it's stupidity on your part.  And don't tell me what to do, or anyone for that matter, because every person disagreeing with you or gibing you is, to be frank, better than you.  k? k.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 08, 2005, 03:46:02 AM
BTW ydoll, you should get out more and get a life, as your post count is about 1.04 higher than mine!!!!!!

!!!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 03:58:55 AM
Quote from: Frightwolf
BTW ydoll, you should get out more and get a life, as your post count is about 1.04 higher than mine!!!!!!

!!!

Nice one. I liked that. :D
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 04:01:08 AM
Quote from: Frightwolf
LoL, it's not gang mentality -- you're telling us we're all wrong.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 08, 2005, 04:03:19 AM
Listen Maria, you're not gonna prove anything to anyone besides the fact that you're a belligerent jerk that is just here to cause trouble.  AND that you're Maria.

And that your post count is higher than mine, signally a lack of a life on your part.

AND that you like to use exclamation marks.

AND that you have a premature, idiotic anti-Paul bias.

You gave me some good laughs tonight, tho.  I commend you.  G'night.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 04:05:46 AM
Quote from: Frightwolf
Listen Maria, you're not gonna prove anything to anyone besides the fact that you're a belligerent jerk that is just here to cause trouble.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 08, 2005, 04:07:49 AM
Of course you're trying to prove something -- you're trying to degrade Paul and his work and criticize him for no reason other than the fact that you're a jerk.  Pity.

You can assume all you want, but you're not gonna convince anyone but yourself about any assumption you have toward me.  Leaving like you did last time, Maria, would be great.  And I'm glad you didn't deny that you're Maria -- bout time you fess up!

Now really this time, I'm done.  Too tired now.  G'night.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 04:09:02 AM
I've denied it a million times. It doesn't do any good.

I'm amused with the way you're becoming abusive. Bad sign, matey.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 08, 2005, 10:20:44 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

And all this from someone who used to call herself Maccalvr.
They were pushed and bullied by McCartney. What they may say today is colored by hindsight (or Macca revisionism in his case).

SOMETHING: well overrated, as I've said before. Naff lyrics for a start. It's pleasant enough, but the fact that YOU (Sandra) think it's one of his great accomplishments shows how Macca-sugary it is!

Your comment about Yoko and Apple Beatle's asking which song by Yoko shows a sore lack of understanding of the joko thing.

Because is the Yoko-penned thing (or at the very least, huge input). The goofy "because the sky is blue, it turns me on" stuff brands it Yoko straight off. And you do know
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 08, 2005, 12:54:45 PM
Quote from Ydoll:   I don't know why, but I'm still amazed at what the macca-lovers will say the moment their lad gets criticised! Kind of makes me want to stir things up even more ...


^That about sums you up. ;)
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on April 08, 2005, 06:26:32 PM
^ Got that right  ;)
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 08, 2005, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
What cloud do you live under? Seems quite miserable, although I liked your response to the FW post count remark.

The only thing that he/she can actually laugh at  :D

Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
Quote from Ydoll:
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
To me, superiorly informed suggests that
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 09:01:39 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
Quote from Ydoll:
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 08, 2005, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

Nah - I've got lots of strings to my bow. But you have to admit that there are a lot of Macca-Mates here, and they come a-scurrying the moment their hero gets any sort of tickle.

But that's OK - Paulie loves 'em. They're the folk who keep paying outrageous prices to see billionaire Paulie perform the same safe stuff! Yesterday ...
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on April 08, 2005, 09:48:56 PM
In any of the other forums I visit, this thread would have been closed long ago.

Grow up, people.  
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 10:36:59 PM
Quote from: Mairi
In any of the other forums I visit, this thread would have been closed long ago.

Grow up, people.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on April 08, 2005, 10:45:15 PM
Excuse me? I have never bullied anyone. If you're referring to my comment about Indica's post, I just thought it was funny. Even if he had said it to me, I would have laughed. I like humour, you see.

And your little comment about the forums I visit? Cheap shot, man, Cheap shot.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 10:52:38 PM
Quote from: Mairi
Excuse me? I have never bullied anyone.

How little we know ourselves! There are several instances whre you have joined in a put-down. You once even called me a 'prick'.

Perhaps you mean you have never bullied successfully. That would be correct.

Quote from: Mairi
And your little comment about the forums I visit? Cheap shot, man, Cheap shot.

The shot may have been cheap, but the bullet found its mark. ;D
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on April 08, 2005, 11:01:53 PM
Yes, I did call you a prick. You were being a prick. I just give my opinions, there's a difference between that and bullying. Bullying is "intentional verbal, emotional or physical abuse against someone else."

What happened to you, dude? You used to be kind of nice. Oh well.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: lennonlemon on April 08, 2005, 11:07:29 PM
you know what would be cool?

if ydoll used his great knowledge of the beatles for good, instead of bad.

you're a smart guy, but a bit intolerable at times.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on April 08, 2005, 11:09:15 PM
I agree with lennonlemon.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Indica on April 08, 2005, 11:11:40 PM
The thing is..he's not really that smart.
Yeah, he can string together words..and always seem to come out on top.. but jesus..anyone can do that!

This is only a forum for Beatle fans...
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 11:13:26 PM
Quote from: Mairi
Yes, I did call you a prick. You were being a prick. I just give my opinions, --------------

And in your opinion I was a prick, and you told me!

Madam, I have my opinion about you: but I am too polite to give it to you!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on April 08, 2005, 11:17:50 PM
Quote
And in your opinion I was a prick, and you told me!

Yes, that is essentially what I just said.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 11:19:25 PM
You're missing my point. It was (to spell it out) that I am too POLITE to tell you what I think YOU are.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on April 08, 2005, 11:23:14 PM
Yet you don't seem to mind being impolite to myself and other posters on several other occassions....

Hmm.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 08, 2005, 11:26:41 PM
Oh, I'm NEVER impolite. Other things certainly. But I never swear. My most abusive terms are 'sap' and 'boofhead'. I'm a NICE bloke, y'know?
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on April 08, 2005, 11:28:42 PM
You don't have to swear to be impolite. And I don't think swearing necessarily makes a person impolite either, unless it's used in extreme excess.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 08, 2005, 11:45:28 PM
Well, I'm off on holiday, have a good one folks, I shall check things out again soon.
All the best EVERYONE!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: The End on April 08, 2005, 11:51:20 PM
Have a GREAT holiday AB, where are you off to? ;D
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 08, 2005, 11:56:21 PM
Cheers Al....Sunny Costa Blanca. ;D 12 days of exploring and fun. Pvt. Villa, pool and car.....Nice. Meeting up with my brother and pals for the last 4/5 days.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on April 09, 2005, 12:01:45 AM
Sounds like fun! bring me back some digital sand...
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: The End on April 09, 2005, 12:04:31 AM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
Cheers Al....Sunny Costa Blanca. ;D 12 days of exploring and fun. Pvt. Villa, pool and car.....Nice. Meeting up with my brother and pals for the last 4/5 days.

Lucky sod!! Hope you have a fantastic time! ;D

Think of us here in the SNOW this weekend!!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: tkitna on April 09, 2005, 12:51:35 AM
Geez, it seems i've missed all the fun, but the reading was entertaining regardless!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 09, 2005, 03:35:33 AM
Quote from: IndicaWalrus
The thing is..he's not really that smart.
Yeah, he can string together words..and always seem to come out on top.. but jesus..anyone can do that!

This is only a forum for Beatle fans...

True -- I think it's stupid that Maria wastes everyone's times with her inane arguments.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on April 09, 2005, 03:36:05 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

And in your opinion I was a prick, and you told me!

You need to learn the difference between opinions and facts  :D

Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on April 09, 2005, 04:15:48 AM
Quote from: Mairi
In any of the other forums I visit, this thread would have been closed long ago.

 
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on April 09, 2005, 04:39:11 AM
I'm not saying it should be closed because of what he said, but because it will probably turn into a huge flame war, which I'm sure you agree we could do without.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 09, 2005, 07:50:49 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

A bible-basher is someone who supports the bible all the time. They are called 'bashers' because they are always slapping/hitting/punching the bible to empasize their points as they talk. They are NOT critical of the bible in ANY way. They do not think about it, they talk in cliches and slogans.

There is another meaning of basher. I'm a Macca-basher for sure, in the sense that I'm beating up on him quite often. This meaning of basher here is totally opposite to the meaning in the first paragraph.

And lastly, I am not toally anti-Paul. Up to White Album time, Paul was peaking and writing excellent material. But in 1969, Paul started to lose the plot. His solo career showed where he ended up. The fact that I am so clearly not totally against the fellow's music is why I'm intrigued that everybody paints me as being completely anti-Paul. I'm not. But I'm not going to praise what (in my opinion) are unfinished ideas, superficial lyrics, and MOR rubbish.

Basher, here in UK, generally sums up anyone preaching on about something. Imposing their views. Theres my definition. I think it's moved on from the days of someone physically smacking a bible as they speak. So it works in both senses of the words, but thanks for pointing it out Ydoll.

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Nah - I've got lots of strings to my bow. But you have to admit that there are a lot of Macca-Mates here, and they come a-scurrying the moment their hero gets any sort of tickle.

But that's OK - Paulie loves 'em. They're the folk who keep paying outrageous prices to see billionaire Paulie perform the same safe stuff! Yesterday ...  

I'd rather pay 50quid to see Macca than 150quid to see Cream. I hope you do have some more strings, coz it would be a shame if your sole purpose was to stir things up on this forum.

Adios for now. Catch you soon Ydoll. ;)
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 09, 2005, 07:52:32 AM
Quoted from The End


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Lucky sod!! Hope you have a fantastic time!

Think of us here in the SNOW this weekend!!

Will do , cheers Al. I really am off now. Peace and Love.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Indica on April 09, 2005, 11:59:03 AM
Macca-Mates here*

Its a Beatles forum.. What do you expect??!

Oh, and on that note..there is alot of Lennon-Bashing..
But so what..

.it shows how much admiration these two get from their fans.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: strawb3rryfi3ldsfor3ver on April 23, 2005, 02:54:56 PM
I like parts of Abbey Road, but...i'm not a OMGWTFBBQ huge fan of it, though. It's a great album, but it's just ... I dunno. Not as interesting as Revolver to me, not as exciting. I love Sgt. Pepper's -- some days I love it and some days I hate it. It's fantastically crazy, never could be anything AT ALL like it. (Not like there could be another Revolver, Abbey Road, but ... NOTHING comes close to what Pepper was.) Revolver I can constantly listen to and consistantly love the music.

Soooo...I voted for Revolver. It's probably my overall favourite -- right now it's been, anyway. ^^;;

Neheheh. I'm going to stay out of the main arguments in this thread. XD These happen all the time; they shouldn't. o-o; ...er, going to stop here now. >_>;;
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Nice_Mrs_Ketchup on April 25, 2005, 03:12:16 AM
Abbey Road,, their playing at thier best
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mairi on April 25, 2005, 03:16:11 PM
I have to disagree. Abbey Road was their last recorded album and they were at the end of their rope. They pulle themselves together, did AR, and that was that. I'd say they were at their best around 66-67.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Frightwolf on June 17, 2005, 07:13:34 PM
I have to disagree.  How many bands can you see be at such odds with each other and pull off an album as incredible as Abbey Road? They were playing at their best -- listen to Ringo's neat drumming during the album, particularly in Come Together and his solo in The End, and listen to the harmonies, how clean and impressive they are.  Paul's bass playing was fantastic on that album, and their voices were top notch (George's voice on Something is very good, as is Paul on Oh! Darling, for instance).

It's they at their best, when it should have been them at their worst.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: on June 17, 2005, 09:35:37 PM
i think sgt pepper is the best of those albums....brilliant
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Indy_Ringo_Fan on July 09, 2005, 01:19:04 AM
Abbey Road.  The B side is simply some of the best music any group has ever done.  The medley is fantastic in every sense of the word.  Although it wasn't the last album released, it was their last album recorded, and they went out on top!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: on August 13, 2005, 12:02:20 AM
Revolver all the way!! Abbey Road and Sgt Pepper both have their share of songs I don't like, but don't get me wrong- both are great albums with many great songs.But  Revolver= great songs and variety and i'll never grow tired of it. <33. My favorite album :).
Plus you hear songs from Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road on the radio a lot, and it grows old. I'll never hate the albums but I like hearing something different.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: on August 26, 2005, 04:06:43 PM
Abbey Road!!!
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: pommyg on August 26, 2005, 08:00:09 PM
sgt pepper all the way
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Wordno on August 27, 2005, 03:50:37 AM
I'd have to say Abbey road. Their harmony vocals on that album is unmatched by all their other albums. Its just great stuff and proves that the beatles still had the magic. Despite the fact that a lot of the songs were unfinished they did great in diguising that and basically putting out an album with unfinished songs.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: on August 27, 2005, 04:39:43 AM
Apples, Oranges, and Chainsaws. Each completely unto their own progession-wise, timeframe-wise, etc. Each was perfect and ahead of each of its time.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: ThingySingy on September 29, 2005, 09:08:51 PM
Sgt Peppers
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: raxo on January 01, 2006, 09:06:25 PM
Abbey Road
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: ringo rules on January 10, 2006, 05:28:51 AM
Boy this is hard, Peppers was the first album i heard so it means a lot too me personally but lately I have really been enjoying Revolver so im gonna have to say Sgt Revolvers Road lol
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: GreenApple on January 10, 2006, 01:05:43 PM
Abbey Road is winning by far as I vote! I voted Sgt. Pepper. Surprised it's in 3rd place.



Abbey Road (33 votes)  50.00%
 
Revolver (19 votes)  28.79%
 
Sgt. Pepper (14 votes)  21.21%
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: ringo rules on January 10, 2006, 01:25:45 PM
Yeah Abbey Roads really killing it, I love all 3 of these albums but too be honest I thought either Revolver or Peppers would be in front,probably Revolver because that seems to be the most highly rated beatles album at the moment continuing on from Peppers.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: ma_tt2 on January 10, 2006, 10:45:44 PM
I think Abbey Road's running away with this one, maybe I should make a new one? ;D
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Mean_Mr_Mustard on January 13, 2006, 10:55:34 PM
Abbey Road, Every song is great and goes good together.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: fendertele on April 26, 2008, 02:37:51 PM
abbey road > Revolver > Sgt Peppers
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Sgt. Pepper 45822 on April 26, 2008, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: 307
Sgt Revolvers Road lol

That's what my name should have been!! I have very close ties with peppers, but I love road. I dunno!! I will have to think on it.
Title: Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
Post by: Geoff on April 26, 2008, 05:51:00 PM
Revolver> Abbey Road> Sgt Pepper.
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Post by: DaveRam on April 27, 2008, 10:11:37 AM
Abbey Road
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Post by: fan numero uno on April 28, 2008, 12:12:44 AM
i voted for revolver. it is just so awsome!
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Post by: Andy Smith on April 28, 2008, 08:06:41 PM
Sgt Pepper...obviously!  :)
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Post by: Magness on April 29, 2008, 04:30:14 AM
Sgt. Pepper > Revolver > Abbey Road

but I voted for Revolver
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Post by: PaulieBear on May 02, 2008, 10:43:01 PM
I don't like revolver more than the other two so that's out.
Sgt. Pepper is good but, the "theme" was last and not all of the songs I LOVE.
Abbey Road hands down, every song is great, they go together and they means something.
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Post by: theBEATLESrock_on on May 03, 2008, 05:24:11 AM
i voted for arby's road
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Post by: Indica on May 03, 2008, 10:39:46 AM
Y'know, as soon as I clicked Revolver I changed my mind ... but I think that change of opinion embodies why these polls never have the same outcome.

So I'll stick with my choice! ;D

I personally think 65 -67 is their 'great period' ... where they were, in a way, untouchable. Rubber Soul and Revolver although different in sound and scope, blow me away every time. Acoustic and mellow or gritty and electronic, the originality of composition and standard of harmonies & production are a real yardstick, even in today's music industry.

White Album onwards - athough I love these albums, I don't think they were 'ahead of the game' so to speak. Great chunky classic albums, but other people around that time were creating similar standards of work.

Everytime I listen to Abbey Road, I always forget just how many great moments the album contains. Mccartney's bass playing is ridiculous, Harrison has blossomed as a writer, Lennon (In my opinion) writes some of his last masterpieces, and Ringo does a drum solo !  ??)

So ... maybe I'll change my mind next week .... or in ten minutes time.
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Post by: BlueMeanie on May 03, 2008, 10:47:37 AM
Against my better judgment I go for Sgt. Pepper. I think as an entire piece it's a thing of beauty. Revolver and Abbey Road both have better songs but as a whole thing Pepper wins it for me. But like Indy says, tomorrow's another day.
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Post by: mr kite on May 03, 2008, 11:03:54 AM
Sgt Pepper . Pure Genius .  8)
And Mr Kite is on it  ;D
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Post by: Sgt. Pepper 45822 on May 04, 2008, 04:50:24 AM
I finally decided on pepper, because no matter what beatles stuff I am into (early, middle, late) I can listen to sgt peppers, It means so much to me, it was the first album that I Really listened to the while way through. I used to stare at the back of the album cover learning the words to every song, listening to every instrument, trying to hear just that one. I first got into it when I first started really trying to hear everything an album had to offer.
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Post by: MeAndMyMonkey on May 05, 2008, 04:24:55 AM
I'm a Sgt Pepper guy these days (out of these 3, The White Album is my favorite) ... but I've gone through periods where Revolver or Abbey Road was at the top of my list. Lately though I just feel the collective experience of Sgt Pepper is something special. The way it's all so cohesive. Plus I feel it has no weak tracks which I can't say about Revolver (Yellow Submarine) or Abbey Road (Octopus's Garden)
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Post by: Mr. Mustard on May 08, 2008, 08:18:03 PM
Greetings, fellow Beatlemaniacs, this is my first post!  

My first reaction to this thread was "Hey, where's the White Album?"  I think that one's my favorite, just SO MANY great songs.  My second was "What about Rubber Soul?"

Question about Revolver -- are we talking about the U.K. or U.S. release?  The UK version has Dr. Robert, And Your Bird Can Sing, I'm Only Sleeping, while they were left off the U.S. version.

I voted for Abbey Road.  Sgt. Pepper's is the first non-compilation Beatles LP I owned (received it on Christmas '83), and it took a little time to get used to.  While it is "The Greatest Album of All Time," it's also not musically the Beatles' top work.  Getting Better, I'm Fixing a Hole, She's Leaving Home, and perhaps Within You Without You are just average by Beatles standards, though they fit beautifully into the tapestry of the album.

The first time I heard Abbey Road (about six months after Sgt. Pepper's), I was a young teenager and didn't know what to make of a lot of it.  I Want You (She's So Heavy) sounded vaguely familiar to me but I was weirded out by the repetition, the guitar riff, the length.... and I didn't know what the hell to make of the side 2 suite.  But I grew into it, and now I don't think there's a weak moment on the album.  Side 2 is a masterpiece, a great way for the Beatles to go out.

Song for song, Revolver may be the best of these three, but my vote goes to Abbey Road.
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Post by: BlueMeanie on May 08, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: 1333
Question about Revolver -- are we talking about the U.K. or U.S. release?  The UK version has Dr. Robert, And Your Bird Can Sing, I'm Only Sleeping, while they were left off the U.S. version.

We generally refer to the UK releases, as they are now also the official US releases.

Welcome to the forum Mr. Mustard.
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Post by: wingsman on May 09, 2008, 11:57:11 AM
Sgt. Pepper
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Post by: Andy Smith on May 09, 2008, 10:35:21 PM
Welcome to the forums Mr. Mustard! great first post! enjoy the forums! ;)
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Post by: Jane on June 14, 2008, 08:20:54 PM
Abbey Road.
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Post by: This Boy on June 15, 2008, 05:36:43 AM
Revolver is my favorite there
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Post by: bruno232 on June 17, 2008, 01:14:57 AM
Quote from: 483
Against my better judgment I go for Sgt. Pepper. I think as an entire piece it's a thing of beauty. Revolver and Abbey Road both have better songs but as a whole thing Pepper wins it for me. But like Indy says, tomorrow's another day.

I'll second that. ;)
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Post by: Beatlemania31 on June 20, 2008, 03:20:03 AM
I literally am TORN between Abbey Road and Sgt. Pepper.
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Post by: Penny Lane on December 01, 2008, 11:45:18 PM
I voted for "Abbey Road" too.

Quote from: 1333
The first time I heard Abbey Road (about six months after Sgt. Pepper's), I was a young teenager and didn't know what to make of a lot of it.  I Want You (She's So Heavy) sounded vaguely familiar to me but I was weirded out by the repetition, the guitar riff, the length.... and I didn't know what the hell to make of the side 2 suite.  But I grew into it, and now I don't think there's a weak moment on the album.  Side 2 is a masterpiece, a great way for the Beatles to go out.

I had the same experience you did.  Abbey Road confused me when I was a lot younger, and I never had that feeling about a Beatles album before.  I had just never heard anything like it since it wasn't a regular pop record.  But I gave it many listens and finally realized it was a beautiful masterpiece.  Since then it's been my favorite Beatles album.

I'm surprised Sgt. Pepper has ranked last so far.  It's kind of funny.  I love Sgt. Pepper and it's been lauded as the Beatles' magnum opus, but although it's wonderful, innovative, and very "listenable," it seems like many fans choose other albums as their favorite.