I just found out 2 bits of info I didnt know and that is that Paul played lead guitar on the title track of Pepper and John played lead on Every Little Thing
Can we compile a list of songs that George didnt play lead guitar on ?
I know of Taxman and Another Girl.
Get Back and You Can't Do That were both John I think
Paul also played the lead on Good Morning Good Morning and Back In The USSR. They all played lead on The End of course.
Quote from: Bobber on Sep 17, 2014, 06:59 AM
Paul also played the lead on Good Morning Good Morning and Back In The USSR. They all played lead on The End of course.
Was Paul lead on USSR as well as drums? He really was auditioning that one man band thing
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 17, 2014, 06:57 AM
Get Back and You Can't Do That were both John I think
Yes Get Back definitely
and John also on Ballad Of John & Yuko
John played the Jazzy solo on Honey Pie
Paul did everything except drums on Why Don't we Do it In the Road. So that's another.
Ticket to Ride, Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite, Flying, Helter Skelter (3 guitars), Birthday, Honey Pie (John) You Never Give Me Your Money(?), Slide on Drive My Car. And don't forget Revolution(John)!
Quote from: Dcazz on Sep 17, 2014, 11:41 AM
Ticket to Ride, Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite, Flying, Helter Skelter (3 guitars), Birthday, Honey Pie (John) You Never Give Me Your Money(?), Slide on Drive My Car. And don't forget Revolution(John)!
Wasnt Revolution a double lead job too? John did the double stop thrash stuff with George the other lead line?
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 17, 2014, 06:57 AM
Get Back and You Can't Do That were both John I think
The Beatles - You Can't Do That (Live at Show Hollywood Bowl) 23.08.1964! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRA9qRJwnsM#ws)
Im not really meaning songs that had double lead (like And Your Bird Can Sing) Im just interested in ones where John or Paul (or Eric Clapton) played THE lead break
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Every Little Thing - J
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Another Girl - P
is the list so far
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 17, 2014, 07:40 PM
Im not really meaning songs that had double lead (like And Your Bird Can Sing) Im just interested in ones where John or Paul (or Eric Clapton) played THE lead break
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Every Little Thing - J
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Another Girl - P
is the list so far
Better add While my Guitar... in there too Kev
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 17, 2014, 08:10 PM
Better add While my Guitar... in there too Kev
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Every Little Thing - J
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Another Girl - P
While My Guitar - EC
is the list so far
Who did the lead on I Want You. It sounds a bit like John to me.
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 17, 2014, 08:45 PM
Who did the lead on I Want You. It sounds a bit like John to me.
John looks like
I'd add You Can't Do That to the list. George is playing his Rickenbacker 360-12 in the Hollywood Bowl video. Watch John. He plays lead on his Rickenbacker 325 at 1:29
Here's a breakdown showing George's part...
The Beatles: "You Can't Do That" (George's part) Rickenbacker 360/12C63 & '67 Gibson Skylark amp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOGYWPNemX4#)
John's lead is at 1:43
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 17, 2014, 05:29 PM
Wasnt Revolution a double lead job too? John did the double stop thrash stuff with George the other lead line?
That's right. Georges lead work falls along the acoustic version. I'd say all 3 play guitar on Helter Skelter with George on bass as well.
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Every Little Thing - J
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Another Girl - P
While My Guitar - EC
I Want You - J
You Cant Do That - J
is the list so far
Yer Blues - John
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 17, 2014, 06:54 AM
I just found out 2 bits of info I didnt know and that is that Paul played lead guitar on the title track of Pepper and John played lead on Every Little Thing
The Beatles - "Every Little Thing" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukt5nEEQ5gQ#)
John plays lead on his 1964 Rickenbacker 325-12
(https://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mybeatlescollection.com%2Fimages%2Fasknat%2FjohnRick325-12.jpg&hash=78ce17c5949ea898fc4af1de15e91dd2336f0fe9)
(https://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rickbeat.com%2Fbeatles%2Fjohnl12.jpg&hash=8becc80499fa4f42ff958c6cb0dd7062a422c3c2)
Here's a good instructional video for Every Little Thing. He's playing a Rickenbacker 360-12 instead of a 325-12...
Beatles - Every Little Thing Guitar Secrets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxBfB3ThtTo#ws)
Your good at finding the vids Baz
Another Girl - P
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
I Want You - J
You Cant Do That - J
Every Little Thing - J
While My Guitar - EC
is the list so far
Quote from: Hello Goodbye on Sep 17, 2014, 10:43 PM
Yer Blues - John
I think Yer Blues was a dual lead as well. IMO, that's when john and George are at their best! One of my favorites!
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Quote from: Dcazz on Sep 18, 2014, 10:27 AM
I think Yer Blues was a dual lead as well. IMO, that's when john and George are at their best! One of my favorites!
I thought the actual solo was played by George though. Have to check that.
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 18, 2014, 04:11 PM
I thought the actual solo was played by George though. Have to check that.
I think as in the one on R & R Circus, John played his choppy lead then Eric (or George) takes over
So Ill take it off the list
On &R Circus I think it was Eric but on the White Album George rips it Even though there's a lot of studio reverb on his lead!
Considering how many songs the Beatles recorded the list isn't very long. Of course acknowledging that many songs simply didn't have a lead guitar solo.
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 20, 2014, 03:02 AM
Considering how many songs the Beatles recorded the list isn't very long. Of course acknowledging that many songs simply didn't have a lead guitar solo.
Georges best solo - Something
Georges worst soslo - I'll Follow The Sun
(IMO) ;D
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 20, 2014, 03:33 AM
Georges best solo - Something
Georges worst soslo - I'll Follow The Sun
(IMO) ;D
No argument on best. Something is gorgeous. One of the great guitar solos ever as far as I'm concerned.
And I'll follow the sun solo is pretty lame. A feeble restating of the melody. I'll have to see if I can find a weaker George solo.
Another great solo is in Til There Was You. Like all the best of George. Not technically overly demanding. But every note working beautifully.
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 20, 2014, 03:51 AM
No argument on best. Something is gorgeous. One of the great guitar solos ever as far as I'm concerned.
And I'll follow the sun solo is pretty lame. A feeble restating of the melody. I'll have to see if I can find a weaker George solo.
Another great solo is in Til There Was You. Like all the best of George. Not technically overly demanding. But every note working beautifully.
8 lousy notes
wrong guitar tone
Till There Was You, did George create that or did somebody else ?
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 20, 2014, 06:43 AM
8 lousy notes
wrong guitar tone
Till There Was You, did George create that or did somebody else ?
I can't be sure but I think he worked out the solo. It wasn't part of the original. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 20, 2014, 07:01 AM
I can't be sure but I think he worked out the solo. It wasn't part of the original. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Its one of those solo's guitarists like to learn
its great
John also plays the first solo on Long Tall Sally.
Quote from: BLEEN on Sep 21, 2014, 12:26 PM
John also plays the first solo on Long Tall Sally.
Welcome back BLEEN! :)
I'm learning all kinds of things in this interesting subject! It's a good reference so I stuck a pushpin in it.
Thanks Kelley!
I also have a strong suspicion that John plays the solo on Hey Bulldog, definitely sounds like his rhythmically oriented style and strong attack.
I think John does the sqwauckey part. reminds me of the rhythm part in What Goes On. Main lead sounds a bit like the one in I, Me Mine a couple of years later that we know John didn't play on.
Quote from: BLEEN on Sep 21, 2014, 03:33 PM
Thanks Kelley!
I also have a strong suspicion that John plays the solo on Hey Bulldog, definitely sounds like his rhythmically oriented style and strong attack.
I actually think it sounds more like Paul
You guys have some good points! I agree with Kev that it sounds more like Paul than George.
In the Hey Bulldog video, John is shown with the Gibson SG guitar, but George is shown playing rhythm I think? That may be a tip-off. One other thing that makes me think it's John is that he often used little partial chord forms and double notes in his solos, like in You Can't Do That. Paul tended to be more single-notey, but who knows?
Quote from: BLEEN on Sep 22, 2014, 05:42 PM
You guys have some good points! I agree with Kev that it sounds more like Paul than George.
One other thing that makes me think it's John is that he often used little partial chord forms and double notes in his solos, like in You Can't Do That. Paul tended to be more single-notey, but who knows?
Hi Bleen
The reason I think it sounds more like Paul is it reminds me of his solo in Taxman
Wonderful bass lines in this song as well
Hi Kev,
Yeah it reminds me of Taxman too. The mystery continues! I haven't read the Lewisohn Recording Sessions book in years, I wonder if he mentions anything about who played the solo?
Quote from: BLEEN on Sep 22, 2014, 06:20 PM
Hi Kev,
Yeah it reminds me of Taxman too. The mystery continues! I haven't read the Lewisohn Recording Sessions book in years, I wonder if he mentions anything about who played the solo?
According to The Beatles Bible, and Geoff Emerick, it was George ha2ha
ha2ha ha2ha ha2ha
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 22, 2014, 06:13 PM
Hi Bleen
The reason I think it sounds more like Paul is it reminds me of his solo in Taxman
Wonderful bass lines in this song as well
According to my reference it was George. John played piano. It recounts an anecdote that the people in the studio revved George to turn his amp up.
But I agree it sounds like a Paul solo to me. More busy than melodic
Apparently this was the last recording session before Yoko made herself a fixture in the studio. It was by all accounts a happy session that went better than anyone expected.
John also tried to get this released as a single instead of lady Madonna.
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 18, 2014, 12:15 AM
Your good at finding the vids Baz
Another Girl - P
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
I Want You - J
You Cant Do That - J
Every Little Thing - J
While My Guitar - EC
is the list so far
Hey Kevin, why don't you include "Ticket To Ride"? Paul plays lead guitar there. Maybe there's not a proper lead guitar solo, but then you shouldn't include "Another Girl" in the list.
Quote from: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on Sep 24, 2014, 05:19 PM
Hey Kevin, why don't you include "Ticket To Ride"? Paul plays lead guitar there. Maybe there's not a proper lead guitar solo, but then you shouldn't include "Another Girl" in the list.
I didnt know that hombre, there are bits of lead guitar (like Another Girl) so I will include it thanks
Another Girl - P
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Ticket To Ride - P
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
I Want You - J
You Cant Do That - J
Every Little Thing - J
While My Guitar - EC
is the list so far
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 24, 2014, 05:49 PM
I didnt know that hombre, there are bits of lead guitar (like Another Girl) so I will include it thanks
You're welcome Kevin. The song had already been mentioned, that's why I wondered why it wasn't included in the list.
Quote from: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on Sep 24, 2014, 05:54 PM
You're welcome Kevin. The song had already been mentioned, that's why I wondered why it wasn't included in the list.
mustve missed that ???
I read something the the solo on Matchbox is suspected to be John although it can't be confirmed. Maybe it could be on the list with an asterisk
Does anyone know if it was John on Revolution ?
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 26, 2014, 06:33 PM
Does anyone know if it was John on Revolution ?
I have both John and George listed as lead but the really distorted lead part I'm pretty sure is John
Anecdote of an almost lead by George. Apparently he did some manic solo for Mr Moonlight that John loved. But GM didn't so they substituted the organ solo.
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 26, 2014, 06:33 PM
Does anyone know if it was John on Revolution ?
In the video John plays the distorted intro.
The Beatles - Revolution (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9zG28GQEg#ws)
As Moogmodule said, I think the distorted lead guitar part is played by John too.
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 20, 2014, 03:33 AM
Georges best solo - Something
Georges worst soslo - I'll Follow The Sun
(IMO) ;D
I was reading that George fought for the Ill Follow the Sun solo. Apparently John was doing some acoustic solos (not overly successfully) and George said he wanted to do a lead. It ended up being used but no one was happy with it. Even george
Thing is even a few choice notes can work well. But in duplicating the melody the notes weren't particularly choice. ha2ha
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 26, 2014, 08:33 PM
I was reading that George fought for the Ill Follow the Sun solo. Apparently John was doing some acoustic solos (not overly successfully) and George said he wanted to do a lead. It ended up being used but no one was happy with it. Even george
Thing is even a few choice notes can work well. But in duplicating the melody the notes weren't particularly choice. ha2ha
I recall Geoff Emerick saying Johns acoustic bit shouldve been used
being as its an acoustic song
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 26, 2014, 08:40 PM
I recall Geoff Emerick saying Johns acoustic bit shouldve been used
being as its an acoustic song
That would make sense to me.
I recall reading in one of my books Paul did the guitar work on Here, There and Everywhere. I can't remember which book though.
John played the lap-steel solo on For You Blue.
I think we can count that as a guitar solo.
Quote from: Moogmodule on Sep 27, 2014, 09:06 PM
John played the lap-steel solo on For You Blue.
I think we can count that as a guitar solo.
Thats the best thing about the song imo
Another Girl - P
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Ticket To Ride - P
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
I Want You - J
You Cant Do That - J
Every Little Thing - J
For You Blue - J
While My Guitar - EC
is the list so far
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 27, 2014, 09:33 PM
Thats the best thing about the song imo
I also like the acoustic intro.
Quote from: BLEEN on Sep 22, 2014, 05:42 PM
You guys have some good points! I agree with Kev that it sounds more like Paul than George.
In the Hey Bulldog video, John is shown with the Gibson SG guitar, but George is shown playing rhythm I think? That may be a tip-off. One other thing that makes me think it's John is that he often used little partial chord forms and double notes in his solos, like in You Can't Do That. Paul tended to be more single-notey, but who knows?
Don't forget that the Hey Bulldog vid is actually the lads doing Lady Madonna with Bulldog playing over the vision. So the instruments they are playing may not be the Bulldog ones. Some thing like that lol
Hey Stevie,
I seem to recall reading that they only filmed HB, but maybe they filmed both songs?
Quote from: stevie on Sep 28, 2014, 01:40 AM
Don't forget that the Hey Bulldog vid is actually the lads doing Lady Madonna with Bulldog playing over the vision. So the instruments they are playing may not be the Bulldog ones. Some thing like that lol
I think it was the opposite: they were playing and singing "Hey Bulldog", and used the film as a promo video of "Lady Madonna".
The Beatles Hey Bulldog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxmP9UDkoGw#)
The Beatles - Lady Madonna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfthrizXKOM#)
Yeah you guys are right. I did some research on wiki on HB and it was that. For some reason I thought it was mixed up with LM.
Awesome song but
Quote from: Kangaroo Kev on Sep 27, 2014, 09:33 PM
Thats the best thing about the song imo
I saw again Paul doing it in the Concert for George. I think he brings it to life better in that performance. Raises the song a little more in my stakes.
Lewisohn's Abbey Road Sessions says George wasn't present for I Will. Paul played acoustic and mouthed the bass parts on 16 September, 68
Where did everybody go?
The last list is this :
Another Girl - P
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Ticket To Ride - P
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
I Want You - J
You Cant Do That - J
Every Little Thing - J
For You Blue - J
While My Guitar - EC
Do we add I Will or not?
John plays lead guitar in "The Ballad Of John And Yoko", though there's no a solo. Shouldn't it be included in the list?
YES, THERE'S A LITTLE ONE ONE THE END!
Quote from: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on Nov 01, 2014, 11:36 AM
John plays lead guitar in "The Ballad Of John And Yoko", though there's no a solo. Shouldn't it be included in the list?
Yes
Another Girl - P
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Ticket To Ride - P
I Will - P
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
I Want You - J
You Cant Do That - J
Every Little Thing - J
For You Blue - J
The Ballad Of John And Yoko - J
While My Guitar - EC
Paul played lead guitar on Drive My Car. George played bass.
Quote from: Hello Goodbye on Nov 01, 2014, 06:43 PM
Paul played lead guitar on Drive My Car. George played bass.
Another Girl - P
USSR - P
Good Morning GM - P
Taxman - P
Sgt Pepper - P
Ticket To Ride - P
I Will - P
Drive My Car - P
Get Back - J
Honey Pie - J
I Want You - J
You Cant Do That - J
Every Little Thing - J
For You Blue - J
The Ballad Of John And Yoko - J
While My Guitar - EC
Quote from: Hello Goodbye on Nov 01, 2014, 06:43 PM
Paul played lead guitar on Drive My Car. George played bass.
As far as I know, Paul played bass on "Drive My Car", though it's also true that Paul played the solo with a slide guitar.
I think there's an usual confusion about George playing bass on "Drive My Car", because of this George's quote from 1977:
Quote"If Paul had written a song, he'd learn all the parts and then come in the studio and say 'Do this.' He'd never give you the opportunity to come out with something. But on 'Drive My Car' I just played the line, which is really like a lick off 'Respect,' you know, the Otis Redding version. And I played the line on the guitar and Paul laid that with me on the bass. We laid that track down like that. We played the lead part later on top of it."
I think the phrase "with me on the bass" was misunderstood. I think George meant that he played the line on the guitar, and Paul did the same with the bass, as it can be heard in the song.
Quote from: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on Nov 01, 2014, 09:09 PM
As far as I know, Paul played bass on "Drive My Car"
I think that will continue to be debated, Andres. The isolated bass track reveals a bassline a bit different from Paul's usual style and ability...
The Beatles - Drive My Car isolated bass track, bass only (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA-FyUi24u8#)
Recorded a few weeks later during the Rubber Soul Sessions was I'm Looking Through You. For a comparison, here is Paul's isolated bass...
I'm Looking Through You Isolated Bass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_rX-WRGZBg#)
Quote from: Hello Goodbye on Nov 02, 2014, 10:38 PM
I think that will continue to be debated, Andres. The isolated bass track reveals a bassline a bit different from Paul's usual style and ability...
The Beatles - Drive My Car isolated bass track, bass only (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA-FyUi24u8#)
Recorded a few weeks later during the Rubber Soul Sessions was I'm Looking Through You. For a comparison, here is Paul's isolated bass...
I'm Looking Through You Isolated Bass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_rX-WRGZBg#)
Yes, the style of the bassline is different than the usual Paul's playing. But remember that in "Drive My Car" the idea of playing that way came from George. According to George, he played the line with his guitar and it seems that Paul did the same with the bass. If you listen to the song, you'll see that bass and guitar play the same line through the track. I think that's the fingerprint of the song.
The Beatles -- Baby You Can Drive My Car (guitar cover) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6sMzJpn67A#ws)
Nevertheless, you're right, the theme will still be subject of debate.
While George was servicable on the bass, I think DMC is Paul. I don't think George could pull it off
Don't forget John played the first lead in Long Tall Sally.
;D
Also George handled the bass in She Said She Said when Paul stormed off. A very capable bass line, indeed!
Quote from: Casbah on Feb 06, 2016, 01:59 AM
Don't forget John played the first lead in Long Tall Sally.
;D
Also George handled the bass in She Said She Said when Paul stormed off. A very capable bass line, indeed!
Also Birthday, Helter Skelter, She CameITTBW, Honey Pie(?) maybe a couple of others plus his 6 string bass songs.
Quote from: Dcazz on Feb 11, 2016, 10:00 AM
Also Birthday, Helter Skelter, She CameITTBW, Honey Pie(?) maybe a couple of others plus his 6 string bass songs.
He also did the very active, almost lead bass, on Two of Us.