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Title: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Mushmouth on February 03, 2005, 11:42:06 PM
It will be interesting to see what songs he choses to perform, whether it will indeed be songs from The Beatles, or from his solo career. It will also be interesting to see who he  invites to perform with him.


Ringo maybe? A semi-Beatles reunion would be interesting.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Beatle Ed on February 04, 2005, 05:52:41 AM
I was wodnering is anyone was gonna mention this. I was getting ready to! I know I'll be at least watching the half time show!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Mushmouth on February 04, 2005, 06:07:41 AM
Yes, I know i defintely will also. At least they can count on Paul to keep his clothes on.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 04, 2005, 06:45:20 AM
I hope its just Paul and his band. No Christina Timberlake Aguilara Spears or whoever the be-bop of the week is.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 04, 2005, 03:15:17 PM
http://www.tampabays10.com/sports/sports_article.aspx?storyid=11844
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Kevin on February 04, 2005, 04:38:20 PM
Excellent stuff Dr O!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Wayne L. on February 05, 2005, 12:01:25 PM
It's going to be a great with Paul rocking the halftime show at the Super Bowl with possibly Ringo on drums.  
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: tkitna on February 05, 2005, 04:29:49 PM
Please, I hope he doesnt do 'Drive My car'. I wonder why he would do that song? I can understand 'Hey Jude' and 'Live and Let Die' as they do a good job of getting the crowd going and 'Get Back' has a nice nostalgia thing going for it, but 'Drive My Car' does nothing. Oh well, its just not my cup of tea and I think theres better tunes to be played.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Wayne L. on February 05, 2005, 06:08:31 PM
I agree with you about Drive My Car ikitna which is mostly a mediocre Beatle classic at best.  
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 06, 2005, 12:53:36 AM
i don't think it will be that phenomenal, but i'll tune in anyways.

he's probably going to play 'freedom' or that regards to broadstreet thing. ugh:(
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: andyec on February 06, 2005, 01:19:02 AM
He should play "I'm Down" for the team that's behind at half time.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 04:39:49 AM
Hey, when is the super bowl??
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 06, 2005, 04:45:02 AM
I can't believe that the poor guy has demeaned himself so much by

A) accepting the gig in the first place

B) allowing possible songs to be vetted!

Has Paul McCartney no pride left? Being permitted to sing a couple of songs at half time in a footy game? Has it really come to this? Go home Macca, and play with Bea.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Mairi on February 06, 2005, 04:47:52 AM
But by doing this he will expose Beatles/Paul music to tons of younger people, and there can't be any downside to that.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 04:50:23 AM
It's not such a demeaning thing to perform at the Super Bowl. It's gets a HUGE audience and football isn't like some volleyball match or something. Some pretty big people have perfomed over the years. U2 for one. I think putting your song in a lame commerical (clapton, stones, who, kinks) is more demeaning.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 06, 2005, 04:57:05 AM
A gentle reminder that most people in the WORLD are NOT Americans, will not be watching the superbowl. They are not impressed at all by the whole shebang.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 06, 2005, 04:58:57 AM
Quote from: Mairi
But by doing this he will expose Beatles/Paul music to tons of younger people, and there can't be any downside to that.

The overwhelming number of young people who know anything about Paul's music, think he is a total loser. Singing such songs as Let It Be, or Jude, or Get Back will not help his cause.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 05:03:54 AM
All I was saying is that it's not a demeaning thing. Where did ANYONE imply that MOST people ARE Americans???

I mean maybe people who are not American think it's demeaning because it IS something American. In MY opinion it's not a big deal. And I've known people from the UK that DO watch American football and love it. Apparently they have cable.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Mairi on February 06, 2005, 05:04:34 AM
Hopefully he will choose a "cooler" tune, such as Helter Skelter, which is what  we at the forums were hoping he would do back when it was announced that he would perform in the halftime show.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 06, 2005, 05:10:50 AM
The songs I would like him to sing are:

I'm Partial To Your Abracadbra, the Ian Dury & The Blockheads number that Paul did for the Ian Dury tribute album. Paul's vocal on this is EXCELLENT, and the song seems ideal for half-time at the footy: raunchy and loud.

Then (seriously), Mary Had A Little Lamb. I would bet that he could have the whole stadium singing along. After all, he would have them eating out of the palm of his hand after Abracadabra so they would do anything.

Marvellous!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 06, 2005, 07:04:20 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
A gentle reminder that most people in the WORLD are NOT Americans, will not be watching the superbowl. They are not impressed at all by the whole shebang.

Not necessarily true.  It is broadcast worldwide to what, a billion people?  Like the Oscars and one or two other events, it supercedes being Amaerican.

Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on February 06, 2005, 08:32:06 AM
He should play Band On The Run
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 06, 2005, 08:37:44 AM
Its a great gig, why would anyone have a problem with that?  Most of the world didn't get to see Ed Sullivan on Sunday nights, and have you seen the other acts that were on the shows that the Beatles were on? No one ever called that demeaning. I think its cool as hell, why not have one of the foremost performers of the last 100 years entertain at half-time? I think the 'tameness' thing is overblown, just enjoy Paul, I'll take anything I can get, I would imagine most fans would.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 06, 2005, 10:32:23 AM
There ain't many BIG stages to play and I bet it's a right earner for a mere 20mins set. lol
Another one for the legacy. Hope he chooses some nice numbers..Live n Let Die is a great prospect.....Yes England does have cable..lol...And his mug will be plastered on all the world news channels aswell.
I really hope he dos'nt invite anyone cheesy to play with him....Now that would be a disaster.
Go For It Macca!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: andyec on February 06, 2005, 03:44:40 PM
He could just change some words around to fit the football game,like "can't buy me touchdowns" or "it's been a hard first half".
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 06, 2005, 05:45:25 PM
They could play the 'Block That Kick!' from Rev 9 over the loudspeakers.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: tkitna on February 06, 2005, 06:57:28 PM
Quote from: Mr_Charlie

Not necessarily true.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 06, 2005, 07:19:27 PM
Quote from: Mr_Charlie

Not necessarily true.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: strawb3rryfi3ldsfor3ver on February 06, 2005, 07:23:22 PM
It's not demeaning if you don't do something stupid, a la Jackson/Timberlake.

=D I can't wait. This'll definately beat last year's halftime show, of course. Paul isn't just some dance an' bubblegum act they hired in. So...yeh. I dunno, i'm just happy that there WILL be a good act at halftime.

And ... yeah. The Super Bowl's [almost] everywhere, now. In China, too. *nod*
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 06, 2005, 07:32:09 PM
Quote
Paul isn't just some dance an' bubblegum act they hired in

But he sure as hell is a SAFE choice. Would any self-respecting rocker - even in his old age - like to be thought of as safe?

Quote
According to Ydoll, I guess Paul should just curl up and wait to die. I'd love to hear your opinion on what Paul should do next.

Now when did I say he should curl up and wait to die? Now, what should Paul do next? Give it a rest. Everything he does these days seems to taint his "aura". He seems almost desparate!

Like I said, he should go play with Beatrice.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 07:40:32 PM
Okay, there's about 290 million people living in the United States. That leaves about 710 million watching from other countries. Well, actually more as NOT every American watches the Super Bowl. Now if you're going to be picky and count coutries that don't even have television sets or that do not get the game broadcast then fine. Most of them are NOT American. I'd guess there's a pretty big viewership in the UK though. And most other English speaking countries. I don't get what you're trying to prove here anyway. Is it a point you're trying to make about Americans being ethnocentric?
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: strawb3rryfi3ldsfor3ver on February 06, 2005, 08:00:47 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

But he sure as hell is a SAFE choice. Would any self-respecting rocker - even in his old age - like to be thought of as safe?

Definately a safe choice, yeah. =\ And then again, this is Paul McCartney, and he's sorta in the "safe"-er end of the big rockers.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Mushmouth on February 06, 2005, 08:34:51 PM
It will be most exciting to see him play, "Hey Jude" will probably provoke tears in my eyes.




T minus 5 hours untill half time show.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Wayne L. on February 06, 2005, 08:59:21 PM
The Super Bowl is mostly OVERRATED without a doubt but I expect the New England Patriots to win & Paul to give a great halftime performance.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 10:03:33 PM
Anyone watching the pregame!! He's on right NOW!!! AHHH!!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 10:05:22 PM
He was just with the other commentators singing Beatles songs. Very funny. Jeez I didn't think he'd be on so soon!!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Mairi on February 06, 2005, 10:13:16 PM
I HATE football. Putting myself through this torture better be worth it.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 10:15:53 PM
NO kidding!! Football is like the most boring sport of all time. I cannot stand it. But now I'm sitting here watching the BORING pregame just to see if he makes another appearance!! Apparently that little bit of him just know hooked me in!!!!!! Jeez, why do I get so excited still! He was singing She Loves You with one of them. Can you get any cuter though!!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 06, 2005, 10:38:37 PM
Playing it safe...Let's see, playing to an audience of 1 billion.  Staying at home, playing with Bea...I guess playing at half-time in front of the billion would be playing it safe.  Gimme a break.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 10:46:47 PM
Paul gets attacked no matter WHAT he does. With some people he just can't do anything right. If he were to save 1,000 people from a sinking ship he'd be criticized for the 2 he missed and then called a glory hog if someone gave him the slightest bit of credit. That's his curse for having the nerve to survive all these years.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Mairi on February 06, 2005, 10:49:09 PM
*applauds* Amen to that!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 06, 2005, 10:49:52 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
Playing it safe...Let's see, playing to an audience of 1 billion.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 06, 2005, 10:54:14 PM
Quote from: Maccalvr
Paul gets attacked no matter WHAT he does. With some people he just can't do anything right. If he were to save 1,000 people from a sinking ship he'd be criticized for the 2 he missed and then called a glory hog if someone gave him the slightest bit of credit. That's his curse for having the nerve to survive all these years.

No, the criticism would come when he gave interminable interviews about it, organized a benefit concert and sang Let It Be and Hey Jude and Yesterday ... and Junior's Farm to show that he has still got it.

He'd also attract criticism when he would claim that of the 2000 rescued, he personally 100% rescued a thousand, and of the remaining thousand that were saved by others, he had a hand in all of them - some as high as 90% rescued by himself!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 10:55:38 PM
That's EXACTLY what I mean. Thanks for proving my point! :D
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 06, 2005, 10:58:54 PM
No, no - I think you've MISSED my point. For instance, my second paragraph is in reference to Paul claiming a lot of credit for many of John's songs!!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 11:01:56 PM
I think you've missed my joke. I was refering to your instant rebutle as a good example of the ongoing criticism!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 06, 2005, 11:06:20 PM
Oh, I get it - a subtle rebutle. :)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 06, 2005, 11:19:40 PM
Clever.  :D
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Indica on February 06, 2005, 11:55:12 PM
Listen, Mccartney is a bastard, they all are.
But hey, they are cool bastards.

You Have to a Bastard to make it

..and I totaly agree.
but hey, so what, its The Beatles..the best band in the world.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Mushmouth on February 06, 2005, 11:57:50 PM
This is still going to own.




T minues 2 hours untill half time show.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 07, 2005, 12:59:51 AM
2 minutes (game time) until Macca performs

YEAAAH
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on February 07, 2005, 01:33:41 AM
DO YOU WANNA GET BACK?  

LET ME HEAR THE PEOPLE SING!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 07, 2005, 01:34:11 AM
the halftime show just finished it was

THE BEST HALFTIME SHOW EVER
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 07, 2005, 01:34:37 AM
Live and Let Die was f***ing amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: pc31 on February 07, 2005, 01:36:47 AM
was that rick springfeild on lead????????
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 07, 2005, 01:36:56 AM
Quote from: Bruno
Live and Let Die was f***ing amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah! Live and Let die was f/king awesome!

I personally didn't think that Paul would do that great of a job and thought he'd play some stupid song like "freedom." Boy was I pleasantly surprised.

Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 01:38:10 AM
yeah it was amazing...drive my car was a great opener, get back and live and let die (which was really great) in the middle and a great finish with hey jude...it was great!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 01:38:14 AM
That was excellent!!! I can feel the flames of revolution! The crowd loved it! What next?

feckin amazin! *tears*
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: pc31 on February 07, 2005, 01:38:59 AM
2 mil???50,000 thousand a song....i heard the band gets a recording of the show 20 bucks and a hot dog for playing.........
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 07, 2005, 01:39:15 AM
that performance gave me goosebumps
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 01:39:21 AM
Live and Let Die always sounds the same to me... It wasn't that a big a deal... But Get Back was a great surprise! Hey Jude was as awesome as always, but waaaay too short! Drive My Car was awesome...

Thanks Paul! :)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: joan was quizzical on February 07, 2005, 01:43:16 AM
Way to go, Paul!  ;D  You're the sh*t!

~ missy
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on February 07, 2005, 01:46:54 AM
Live and let die was so awsesome!!! and the whole crowd chants-- "Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Hey Jude"
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 07, 2005, 01:46:58 AM
Yeah, wonder why he shortened Hey Jude!! And the drummer seemed to be doing his own thing during it! Otherwise it was a great performance. Wish he would have done a few more songs though!! I definitely have to see him when he comes around again!!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 07, 2005, 01:49:01 AM
I'm sure they gave Macca a time limit for his performance, that's why Hey Jude was short
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 07, 2005, 01:49:06 AM
Were the crowd holding up signs that said Na Na Na Na or was I seeing things?
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 07, 2005, 01:51:36 AM
the performance was great, except for paul's dancing. what kind of robotic movement was paul doing during get back.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 07, 2005, 01:51:57 AM
I couldn't see the signs well
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: pc31 on February 07, 2005, 02:01:10 AM
yeah paul did do well for himself no freedom and anything else.three beatle tunes too.if he keeps playing that stuff he will be on top again in no time.lol
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 07, 2005, 02:01:50 AM
yeah. thanks heaven there was no freedom or regards to broadstreet ort w/e.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on February 07, 2005, 02:02:06 AM
My only regret, I wanted him to do Sgt peppers and then have ringo come on as suprise guest for With a Little Help.  o well it still rocked.  Ive never really liked Live and Let Die but that was a great version.  I knew he would do get back and hey jude, but drive my car suprised me and was great.  why dont they do this every year. kickass
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 07, 2005, 02:02:23 AM
I just looked again and I see 3 Na's in red, white, and blue. Strange.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 07, 2005, 02:08:52 AM
Quote from: Herecomesyoursun
My only regret, I wanted him to do Sgt peppers and then have ringo come on as suprise guest for With a Little Help.  o well it still rocked.

yeah, that would have been really cool.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 07, 2005, 02:26:41 AM
I thought he looked pretty good too.

(http://images.nfl.com/photos/img8170667.jpg)(http://www.theworldlink.com/content/articles/2005/02/04/sports/sports09.jpg)
(http://www.nme.com/media/images/MACCA_040205_M.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Beatle Ed on February 07, 2005, 02:27:19 AM
I caught the last two songs Live and Let DIe, and Hey Jude. But I was pretty impressed, which is alot coming from me. I thought he did pretty well.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: andyec on February 07, 2005, 02:31:56 AM
That was better than all the other Super Bowl halftimes put together. Paul was awesome. I have to admit though,I have no idea who's in the band. They look young and ready to rock. The tour should be great too.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 07, 2005, 02:34:52 AM
imagine paul showing a tit...
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on February 07, 2005, 02:40:04 AM
the only weird thing was paul shredding guitar solos on his bass during Drive My Car.  He shoudl know hes not fooling anyone with that.  we know what a bass is for
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: adamzero on February 07, 2005, 02:48:08 AM
The Hofner Bass was a nice touch.  But I'd rather see the Rickenbacker.  I think the Sgt Pepper's Reprise would have been a nice final song.  

But don't get me wrong, he killed.  

No show, just songs.  What a concept!

Does anybody even remember the song Janet and Timberland were singing?  Or care?  

I hope the NFL gets the point.  Let's have Willie Nelson next year.  Then maybe Neil Young.  
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 07, 2005, 03:01:35 AM
Willie Nelson or Neil Young?

Never gonna happen. Remember, the halftime show needs viewers and, nowadays, there aren't too many teens into wille or neil.

i wouldn't mind aerosmith doing another performance...or maybe van halen?
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on February 07, 2005, 03:19:25 AM
nope itll be the Who
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 07, 2005, 03:24:14 AM
the who wouldn't do it. would they?

besides, what's the who without entwistle and mooney. you're never going to have another entwistle and he can't be replaced.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Frightwolf on February 07, 2005, 03:26:02 AM
That was an extraordinary halftime.  I got more into the halftime than the actual game.  Great dancing, great movement, great playing, GREAT singing, great fireworks on LALD.

I read somewhere that he was rehearsing Drive My Car, Get Back, Live And Let Die, and Hey Jude, and then POOF -- he does it in that order.

He was great.

Go McCartney!  :D 8) ;D :P ;) :)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on February 07, 2005, 03:27:27 AM
Quote from: lennonlemon
the who wouldn't do it. would they?

besides, what's the who without entwistle and mooney. you're never going to have another entwistle and he can't be replaced.

The WHo would do anything for money.  I saw one of their songs on a winshield wiper ad.  Winshield Wipers!  
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 07, 2005, 03:37:12 AM
Even though the Who are giant sell-outs, they would put on such a awesome show you wouldn't even think about all those cheesy commercials. They always kick everybody elses ass. The Super Bowl is probably the ONE thing they wouldn't do though. That would figure.

Windshield Wipers? What song???
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 07, 2005, 03:49:20 AM
Quote from: Frightwolf
That was an extraordinary halftime.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 07, 2005, 03:55:25 AM
Thought you weren't watching. You know, not impressed by the whole she-bang?


 ;)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 07, 2005, 04:39:26 AM
Had to watch, so that I'd have a first-hand opinion!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 07, 2005, 04:41:01 AM
Quote from: Hey_Jules
SUPER BOWL SET LIST SPOILER!!!!

Paul rehearsed "Drive My Car," "Get Back," "Live and Let Die" and "Hey Jude." McCartney still may surprise fans on Sunday with his final set list. The band is playing live. No lip-synching! No tape delay.

Paul will wear a red shirt, black jeans and a black jacket (which he will remove after "Get Back"). "Live and Let Die" will be loaded with fireworks and special effects.

Macca has been flying in and out of the Jacksonville airport to a house he rented on the ocean.

Dandee was right, the exact same thing happened. Paul took off his jacked right after Get Back!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 04:52:55 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

Great dancing??? No.
Great movement??? No
GREAT singing?? It was good for a guy who now struggles with many notes.
Great playing? Adequate.
Great fireworks? Cliche for that song.

And that horribly insincere "You sound so sweet to me" during the na-nan-na-nas.

But give him his dues. He lives with straights who tell him that he was king. And his performance was royal enough for those straights.

I don't like swinging at these pitches in the dirt because nobody wins, but I've got to ask, if you think Paul is a washed up milquetoast who is past his prime and nothing he does now or in the future will meet with your approval, why are you posting this garbage? Ignore it. Write him a letter and set him straight, you've got all the answers apparantly. I don't understand the vitriol.  He is brilliant, his voice was stronger today than I have heard it in a long time, he had to jam as much material into a tight time slot, the band was tight. It was a good performance.  Try to imagine your father up there doing what he is at 62, in the mean time, let it go. Since Paul is a known quantity at this stage of his career, you have two choices: Ignore it altogether, or if you decide to listen to or watch it--shut up. Its not Paul's problem, its yours.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 05:31:11 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
Okay, there's about 290 million people living in the United States. That leaves about 710 million watching from other countries. Well, actually more as NOT every American watches the Super Bowl. Now if you're going to be picky and count coutries that don't even have television sets or that do not get the game broadcast then fine. Most of them are NOT American. I'd guess there's a pretty big viewership in the UK though. And most other English speaking countries. I don't get what you're trying to prove here anyway. Is it a point you're trying to make about Americans being ethnocentric?

Well, the point being made IS a valid one...AMericans DO seem to act as if they are the center of the world, especially on the Internet.

But the point is not particularly valid in this case, or any case where a large portion of the world IS watching the American ceremonies.

Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 05:39:34 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
Paul gets attacked no matter WHAT he does. With some people he just can't do anything right. If he were to save 1,000 people from a sinking ship he'd be criticized for the 2 he missed and then called a glory hog if someone gave him the slightest bit of credit. That's his curse for having the nerve to survive all these years.

You are spot on here.  In other boards including the main newsgroups Paul is both reviled, criticized and nailed for every little thing.  John worship is quite prevalent, but very little directed towards Paul.

The man was a Beatle!  One of four.  Whatever he does now has little bearing on who he was.  And he still does some good stuff, it's not like he totally shat himself out in 1969.

Sure, like anyone he is open to being criticized, especially being in the public as much as he wants to be.  But he gets a lot of petty and useless heat thrown at him.

While John gets a free pass pretty much all the time.  That's why Paul worries about his legacy.



Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 05:41:02 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

No, the criticism would come when he gave interminable interviews about it, organized a benefit concert and sang Let It Be and Hey Jude and Yesterday ... and Junior's Farm to show that he has still got it.

He'd also attract criticism when he would claim that of the 2000 rescued, he personally 100% rescued a thousand, and of the remaining thousand that were saved by others, he had a hand in all of them - some as high as 90% rescued by himself!

Pretty ridiculous and fictional examples there.

Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 05:48:17 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

Great dancing??? No.
Great movement??? No
GREAT singing?? It was good for a guy who now struggles with many notes.
Great playing? Adequate.
Great fireworks? Cliche for that song.

And that horribly insincere "You sound so sweet to me" during the na-nan-na-nas.

But give him his dues. He lives with straights who tell him that he was king. And his performance was royal enough for those straights.

Well, you clearly wear your prejudice against Paul right out front.

However, I do agree the half-time show was just typical Paul, nothing special about it.  I'm a bit surprised at the volumes of accolades...it's the same stuff Paul has been doing fro years (especially the Hey Jude schtik).

He's not ready for the pasture yet, as you seem to think, but he wasn't exactly starting fires either.  It was Paulie, doing what Paulie does.  And he does Paulie better than anyone else.

Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Mushmouth on February 07, 2005, 07:22:27 AM
I was impressed with the show. I thought 'Get Back' kind of lacked feeling, but hey it still ruled.



Another reason why Macca owns
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Paulsluv on February 07, 2005, 01:12:43 PM
I LOVED THE HALFTIME!!!!!!!!!!!! PAUL ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE STILL LOOKS GOOD FOR HIS AGE. THE FIREWORKS WERE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Lenny Pane on February 07, 2005, 01:52:24 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm

 but I've got to ask, if you think Paul is a washed up milquetoast who is past his prime and nothing he does now or in the future will meet with your approval, why are you posting this garbage? Ignore it. Write him a letter and set him straight, you've got all the answers apparantly. you have two choices: Ignore it altogether, or if you decide to listen to or watch it--shut up. Its not Paul's problem, its yours.

AGREED !

I dont think ive ever seen a positive post from Ydoll... he just seems to come on here and slate and talk BS !  ::)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: adamzero on February 07, 2005, 02:17:40 PM
Why all the Paul bashing, when John did more than his share of drivel.  Beef Jerky, anyone?
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: lennonlemon
Willie Nelson or Neil Young?

Never gonna happen. Remember, the halftime show needs viewers and, nowadays, there aren't too many teens into wille or neil.

i wouldn't mind aerosmith doing another performance...or maybe van halen?


I wouldn't mind seeing van halen either... ;D
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Indica on February 07, 2005, 04:38:05 PM
Yeah, But Ive seen him do Get Back at Glastonbury, and he doesn't sing it like before..which is a shame :(
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 07, 2005, 05:13:24 PM
Quote from: Mr_Kite

AGREED !

I dont think I've ever seen a positive post from Ydoll... he just seems to come on here and slate and talk BS !
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Indica on February 07, 2005, 06:12:19 PM
Is Mccartney.

Shut it.


8)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 06:12:55 PM
(http://sg.yimg.com/xp/ap/20050207/857141918.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: tkitna on February 07, 2005, 06:56:08 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn


The SAFE comes in when the organizers asked Paul to play: he is THEIR safe choice.

Safe as in knowing that it will be a kick ass show (and it was)

Quote
What I'm saying is that Paul should stop pretending to be the young vigorous pop star, but, now that he is a fresh parent again, go play with his kid. Much more rewarding than singing a couple of those same old songs (vetted and approved by the organizers).

And your the same kind of person that b****es when he doesnt put out a rockin harder album. He gets crucified for putting out an adult contemporary album and now gets it for trying to be a 'young vigorous pop star'????? I wish you people would make up your mind.

If Paul did go home and play with Bea, what would you have to complain about?

Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Wayne L. on February 07, 2005, 07:06:21 PM
Paul is in a class all by himself as a rock legend & it was a great Super Bowl halftime performance safe as milk but his time has come & gone as an influential artist.  
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 07, 2005, 07:06:55 PM
I'm surprised and confused at the reviews from the press. Some of them hated the performance and some said it was the best ever.

http://news.google.com/news?q=paul%20mccartney&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wn
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: tkitna on February 07, 2005, 07:09:19 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm

I don't like swinging at these pitches in the dirt because nobody wins, but I've got to ask, if you think Paul is a washed up milquetoast who is past his prime and nothing he does now or in the future will meet with your approval, why are you posting this garbage? Ignore it. Write him a letter and set him straight, you've got all the answers apparantly. I don't understand the vitriol.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: tkitna on February 07, 2005, 07:15:29 PM
http://www.detnews.com/2005/screens/0502/07/C07-81974.htm

By: Mekeisha Madden.

I hope she doesnt trip on her rap cd's getting into her car. (liked the Will Smith and Alicia Keys better than Paul?? Whatever.)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Kevin on February 07, 2005, 07:41:08 PM
I'm amazed at some of the comments here. Maybe his voice isn't as good as it was, maybe the muscicianship isn't as kick ass as it was forty (i repeat FORTY years ago), but my god, that was a great set.
What do some of you expect of this guy. How can you moan that he's pretending to be a "vigourous young rockstar". he's not pretending anything, he's being Paul McCartney, doing what Paul McCartney does.
I have the utmost respect for him after seeing that.
I'd planned a longer diatribe than this, but words escape me.
f*** the reviews. it was exactly what was needed for the occassion, and he delivered beyond all my expectations.
aaaaargh.........
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Wayne_L.
Paul is in a class all by himself as a rock legend & it was a great Super Bowl halftime performance safe as milk but his time has come & gone as an influential artist.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Mairi on February 07, 2005, 09:02:48 PM
I thought it was kind of tame, but it was still nice to see Paul performing.  I was extremely disappointed at the lack of wardrobe malfunctions, however.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 07, 2005, 09:27:39 PM
Quote from: Mairi
 I was extremely disappointed at the lack of wardrobe malfunctions, however.

i'm pretty sure there are a lot of pics of paul's tits online.:)

Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Rowdy on February 07, 2005, 10:12:27 PM
It was decent.........it wasn't too exciting, but "Hey Jude" was kind of cool......I wouldn't see Paul in concert though unless I got a free ticket.....
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 10:18:21 PM
where of you dream at night
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on February 07, 2005, 10:45:48 PM
anyone else think the "na na na naaas" were obviously tapes?  How did the audience know what the final one wwas gonna be?  he cut the song short and all the shouts ended on the perfect hold of the note.  seems suspicious
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 07, 2005, 11:30:06 PM
I don't think the 'Nahs' were taped, he was out there directing the audience and you heard the crowd noise. He went back to the piano and finished the song. The audience wasn't miked, the band was, that's why you didn't hear anymore of the audience. I can't get over how everyone is so quick to judge and is nay-saying stuff, even people that post as often as you. Maybe you run out of ideas and need to downshift into minutae that doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Indica on February 07, 2005, 11:46:32 PM
Ive been to a Mccartney Concert, and even tho the nah's are cliche and old..its great to be apart of such a group spirit, being led by the author :)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 07, 2005, 11:48:18 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
I don't think the 'Nahs' were taped, he was out there directing the audience and you heard the crowd noise. He went back to the piano and finished the song. The audience wasn't miked, the band was, that's why you didn't hear anymore of the audience. I can't get over how everyone is so quick to judge and is nay-saying stuff, even people that post as often as you. Maybe you run out of ideas and need to downshift into minutae that doesn't exist.

I don't think it's a criticism as much as an observation. And asking other peoples opinions is part of the reason we come to a forum like this. Obviously though the fans DID know that he was going to do that song as they were given big signs that said Na Na Na Na. I'm sure they were given a heads up.  
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 07, 2005, 11:51:47 PM
I don't get it. The Na's will never get old to me. As long as I live those Na's will  send a chill down my spine!!!



Okay, that's a bit dramatic, but you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 08, 2005, 12:08:37 AM
yeah, i kinda feel the same way.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: number14 on February 08, 2005, 12:49:46 AM
i thought it was awesome
i dont know if na na's were taped or not but it was still a good show
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 08, 2005, 01:33:51 AM
I just watched it again and I'm not getting the Na Na's being taped. I mean EVERYBODY knows this song so it's not unrealistic for everyone to start singing at the exact moment when the Na's come. BTW, I swear everytime I watch him do this song I wanna scream!! I can't understand people getting sick of it!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on February 08, 2005, 03:17:21 AM
No dont get me wrong, Hey Jude is my #1 favorite song in the world, I just found it odd that they all concluded perfectly, despite the fact that he cut the Na Naas short of the real version.

Juniors Farm, youll notice my first posts immediately after the show weere, "Best halftime show ever"  "Paul rocked" etc.  I'm not trying to be skeptical, i just noticd after a second viewing something i found odd.  I could be wrong, most people think I am.  It was just a discussion point.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 08, 2005, 03:34:14 AM
The one thing I did notice is that the drummer doesn't seem to be drumming correctly during Hey Jude. And he's too loud in the other songs. He's no Ringo!!  Oh, and what the hell is Thank You Super Bowl!! Like it's a person or something.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: lennonlemon on February 08, 2005, 03:36:52 AM
yeah, the drummer was on a different planet. perhaps, he was jsut excited by the fact that he is playing at the half time show at the SUPERBOWL with PAUL MCCARTNEY . My, what I'd do for a chance like that.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: adamzero on February 08, 2005, 03:38:46 AM
I've got an idea for next year.  They have the same stage format, but during the show the ground opens up and rotting corpse of Ronnie Van Zant (wearing his Neil Young t-shirt) staggers to the microphone and leads the audience in an "obviously choreographed" version of "Sweet Home Alabama."  
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Frightwolf on February 08, 2005, 03:38:53 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
The one thing I did notice is that the drummer doesn't seem to be drumming correctly during Hey Jude. And he's too loud in the other songs. He's no Ringo!!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Frightwolf on February 08, 2005, 03:40:20 AM
Quote from: Herecomesyoursun
anyone else think the "na na na naaas" were obviously tapes?
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 08, 2005, 03:43:43 AM
Quote from: lennonlemon
yeah, the drummer was on a different planet. perhaps, he was jsut excited by the fact that he is playing at the half time show at the SUPERBOWL with PAUL MCCARTNEY . My, what I'd do for a chance like that.

Okay so I wasn't hearing things! It's just that I heard that song so many times the drums were distracting me. Ringo is much more subtle that's for sure.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Frightwolf on February 08, 2005, 03:46:30 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr

Okay so I wasn't hearing things! It's just that I heard that song so many times the drums were distracting me. Ringo is much more subtle that's for sure.

Oh yea, Ringo did just enough and wasn't a hog.  But you gotta adapt to other drummers, and the guy's power and excitement was welcome for me since it's the Superbowl.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 08, 2005, 03:53:03 AM
I love watching Abe drum. I thought he did fine, maybe I'll have to watch the tape again.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 08, 2005, 03:54:09 AM
Yeah the guy was cool. Very into it! It just takes me a while to adjust!! It's sorta like listening to the song on the wrong speed.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: tkitna on February 08, 2005, 04:58:49 AM
Abe is freaking incredible. I need to watch it again I guess as I didnt see any mistakes or oddness in his playing. He has been with Paul for about 3 years now so he's no stranger to the song. Here's a quick link to Abe-

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Abe_Laboriel_jr.html

(notice some of the other bands he's performed with too)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 08, 2005, 05:02:32 AM
It just seemed different from what I'm used to. I'm no drummer though so I don't know. I just think Ringo sounds softer and slower. Different pace? I don't know. Seems like he's adding something. Now I have to go listen to Ringo again. Maybe I'm imagining it.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 08, 2005, 06:17:29 AM
I couldn't access the site for about 24 hrs until now. I would have responded to personal crits of me, but it seems old news now.

But I will say this: I have posted positive stuff, but I'll admit that the superbowl hype has drawn out my "anti-Paul"vibes.

I will also say that I think there aren't many realists on this board. Too much idolatory of Macca. You guys, it is OK to crit him. It is OK to see his faults. Just because he was great once (positive statement there), doesn't mean he's great now.

If it's OK to go over the top (Paul rules, is awesome, he rocks, he is the man, all that juvenile stuff) in praise of him, then I'm sure you'll forgive me my mild crits of him.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 08, 2005, 06:21:58 AM
This is the drummer who has been playing with him for the last few years, and garners accolades everywhere he played.

He was dong fills, same as Ringo, except he did his own rather thatn try to copy Ringo note for note.  It was quite good.  He may have been a tad more prominent in the mix than he should have been, but one can't fault his playing.  And I'm sure after a year or two of touring with Paul the Superbowl was just another gig.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 08, 2005, 06:24:23 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
I couldn't access the site for about 24 hrs until now. I would have responded to personal crits of me, but it seems old news now.

But I will say this: I have posted positive stuff, but I'll admit that the superbowl hype has drawn out my "anti-Paul"vibes.

I will also say that I think there aren't many realists on this board. Too much idolatory of Macca. You guys, it is OK to crit him. It is OK to see his faults. Just because he was great once (positive statement there), doesn't mean he's great now.

If it's OK to go over the top (Paul rules, is awesome, he rocks, he is the man, all that juvenile stuff) in praise of him, then I'm sure you'll forgive me my mild crits of him.

If someone goes overboard on criticism, and one rebuts it, they are then pegged as Macca worshippers.  This happens in all forums, not just this one.

No one said Paul was above criticism.  What is being said is that yours was over the top and not backed up by anything.  Certainly you are entitled to express your opinion, but then so does everyone else.

Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: tkitna on February 08, 2005, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
I will also say that I think there aren't many realists on this board. Too much idolatory of Macca. You guys, it is OK to crit him. It is OK to see his faults. Just because he was great once (positive statement there), doesn't mean he's great now.

Yes, its fine to criticize him (he's old, egotistical, money grubber, media puppy), but all he did was perform a really good 4 song set halftime show at the superbowl. Why are you so negative towards this?

Its almost like Paul lost his appeal to the bashers at a certain date in time. 71', 73', 76'??? Hell, I dont know. If you dont dig his music, quit complaining about it to us that still do enjoy it. Thats all i'm saying. Lennon was a jerk, but i'm not spreading the word if you know what I mean.



Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Kevin on February 08, 2005, 10:11:43 AM
Quote from: tkitna



. If you dont dig his music, quit complaining about it to us that still do enjoy it.




Personally, I'd much rather debate on some musical opinion I didn't agree with than blat on about which beatle is the cutist, or if i would make a decent girlfriend for paul.
For me-keep the comments coming-just be able to take the comebacks
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: tkitna on February 08, 2005, 11:43:30 AM
Thats my beef though. If I dont like Yanni and you do,,,,,no matter what you say isnt going to change my mind. So wheres the debate?
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 08, 2005, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: Mr_Charlie
This is the drummer who has been playing with him for the last few years, and garners accolades everywhere he played.

He was dong fills, same as Ringo, except he did his own rather thatn try to copy Ringo note for note.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 08, 2005, 02:53:58 PM
I still don't get all this Paul bashing. I think he did an excellent job at the superbowl (remember guys he's 62).Drive My Car and Get Back were a little bland but the Live and Let Die and Hey Jude performances were amazing.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 08, 2005, 04:44:03 PM
Quote from: Wayne_L.
Paul is in a class all by himself as a rock legend & it was a great Super Bowl halftime performance safe as milk but his time has come & gone as an influential artist.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 08, 2005, 04:50:52 PM
Nice post link for everyone there Tkitna....Abe Laboriel JR is a fantastic drummer and singer...Top session guy and a real power-house..that's his style....He's not gonna just go and copy Ringo licks and he's been touring these songs with Paul for quite a while now. No doubt he wants to bring his style to it. Obviously with no objections from Paul.
Was'nt his father a top session bass player of the same name?
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Bruno on February 08, 2005, 05:07:42 PM
yeah Abe is a good drummer. I have the 'Back In The US' dvd and he does a great job in every song. He even sings along with Macca on Eleanor Rigby.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 08, 2005, 05:12:02 PM
Nice Bruno :) I saw the Back In The World last year at earls Court UK...I was reall impressed by Abe....He can hit those top falsetto harmonies sweet aswell....A crucial critic buster!!!! lol
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 08, 2005, 05:55:01 PM
I said it before, but I'll say it again--Paul has the unenviable task of competing with himself in every way possible, his Beatle past, his (numerous) masterpieces, changing the world, etc., but he's doing a hell of a job. He's out there working his arse off with causes, creating, writing, recording a new album, shows here and there, planning another tour--an incredible amount of energy, initiative, ambition, and focus for a guy who could easily sit the rest of his life getting fat in a chair watching TV. My Dear Ydoll Gwyn--mark down how quickly you can run one mile today and hold on to it. Run the same mile when you're 62+ and see if you're still keeping the same pace.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Frightwolf on February 08, 2005, 07:45:54 PM
HereComesYourSun wrote: "No dont get me wrong, Hey Jude is my #1 favorite song in the world, I just found it odd that they all concluded perfectly, despite the fact that he cut the Na Naas short of the real version."

Really?


Hey Jude vs. Here Comes The Sun

:)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Kevin on February 08, 2005, 08:10:50 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
I said it before, but I'll say it again--Paul has the unenviable task of competing with himself in every way possible, his Beatle past, his (numerous) masterpieces, changing the world, etc., but he's doing a hell of a job. He's out there working his arse off with causes, creating, writing, recording a new album, shows here and there, planning another tour--an incredible amount of energy, initiative, ambition, and focus for a guy who could easily sit the rest of his life getting fat in a chair watching TV. My Dear Ydoll Gwyn--mark down how quickly you can run one mile today and hold on to it. Run the same mile when you're 62+ and see if you're still keeping the same pace.

yeah baby yeah. 8)
perfect!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 08, 2005, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
I said it before, but I'll say it again--Paul has the unenviable task of competing with himself in every way possible, his Beatle past, his (numerous) masterpieces, changing the world, etc., but he's doing a hell of a job. He's out there working his arse off with causes, creating, writing, recording a new album, shows here and there, planning another tour--an incredible amount of energy, initiative, ambition, and focus for a guy who could easily sit the rest of his life getting fat in a chair watching TV. My Dear Ydoll Gwyn--mark down how quickly you can run one mile today and hold on to it. Run the same mile when you're 62+ and see if you're still keeping the same pace.

Slickly put...I mean he could jast have 'hung up his boots' after The Beatles and criticised everyone as much as YDoll. lol ;D
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 08, 2005, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: tkitna
Abe is freaking incredible. I need to watch it again I guess as I didnt see any mistakes or oddness in his playing. He has been with Paul for about 3 years now so he's no stranger to the song. Here's a quick link to Abe-

[url]http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Abe_Laboriel_jr.html[/url]

(notice some of the other bands he's performed with too)


SSShucks I knew he played for Sting. Wish I had posted that earlier for full kudos brownie point!!! lol
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 08, 2005, 08:29:47 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle

Wrong!....He still influences me and many other bands here in the UK.

Hilarious! Funniest post for ages!  :D

Wayne (who you responded to in that quote) is talking INFLUENCE, on a different  level all together from "like and therefore imitate".


And to all you people who are starting to gang up on me: go right ahead. It says more about you than me! ;D
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 08, 2005, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

Hilarious! Funniest post for ages!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 08, 2005, 09:08:05 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 08, 2005, 09:15:12 PM
Only your 'like and therefore imitate' remark...Otherwise why would you have found my post so hilarious? A dig at me performing in a Beatle band perhaps?...That's all.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 08, 2005, 09:24:10 PM
I had no idea you performed in a Beatle band! Talk about tripping into it!

What I was trying to point out (clumsily, yes) was that "influence" can be at lots of levels. Just because there are a few bands that imitate aspects of Paul's styles etc doesn't amount to influence, in the deep sense that I think Wayne meant. I didn't have you in mind (as I didn't know about the Apple Beatles you play in). I actually had the Australian band JET in mind.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 08, 2005, 09:41:12 PM
Sorry if I may have mis-interpreted but an influential artist is someone who inspires others?.....What is so hilarious?....Not wanting a row but 'Can be' is a bit of a vague explanation...Therefore on whatever level, the point I make is that he still influences. Those days have not gone as Wayne suggested. Please explain the other elements of influence as my IQ cannot fully grasp at what you are getting at.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 08, 2005, 10:00:44 PM
OK, I'll approach it like this. Regardless of what "influence" means, Paul influences very few these days, COMPARED to the Beatle days. I think most people would agree with that.

The next bit is more controversial. I think Paul had little influence on popular music after the Beatles broke up EXCEPT that his bass playing became a model for many, many musicians who weren't even born until the late 70s!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: strawb3rryfi3ldsfor3ver on February 08, 2005, 10:21:27 PM
I thought Paul's performance was fab. Not going into some mass commentary. ^^;

But was anyone else incredibly intregiued with the stage floor? :O

[*totally trying a random subject*] Seriously, though. I couldn't stop watching the floor. And then I rewatched it and tried to focus on Paul. XD;
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Fried_Chicken on February 08, 2005, 11:21:19 PM
great halftime show. Macca rules
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 08, 2005, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
OK, I'll approach it like this. Regardless of what "influence" means, Paul influences very few these days, COMPARED to the Beatle days. I think most people would agree with that.

The next bit is more controversial. I think Paul had little influence on popular music after the Beatles broke up EXCEPT that his bass playing became a model for many, many musicians who weren't even born until the late 70s!

Well hopefully to finalise this tired debate, I will add a few last petty points. Wayne had stated that Pauls influence had 'come and GONE'...That's all what I was saying all along.
Of course his influence is less these days. No-one unless they had been in a coma for 40 years could think that he has the same impact..think I mentioned that in another post. It has not GONE though. Yes I am influenced by Macca but not to blind obsessive levels. To play his bass lines and simultaneously sing is always a challenge I relish.
Bands other than Jet still want to record at Abbey Rd. Crowded House, Oasis, The Bee's, Stone Roses, Radiohead are all prime examples of his influence that resonates from Paul's time with The Beatles. HE will influence musicians of all levels and genres for time to come. Now I agree that post-beatles is a different thing. And if we are talking Paul solo then yours and Waynes points are a lot stronger. As an all encompassing artist though (including his time with The Beatles)....well you get me drift now? I'm knackered and going dizzy...Can we get back to his performance now? :-/
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on February 09, 2005, 12:08:40 AM
Quote from: Frightwolf
HereComesYourSun wrote: "No dont get me wrong, Hey Jude is my #1 favorite song in the world, I just found it odd that they all concluded perfectly, despite the fact that he cut the Na Naas short of the real version."

Really?


Hey Jude vs. Here Comes The Sun

:)


Nah I like Jude better, I just like my name :)
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Frightwolf on February 09, 2005, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: Herecomesyoursun


Nah I like Jude better, I just like my name :)

I woulda never thunk it!
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 09, 2005, 03:22:21 AM
I would have.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 09, 2005, 03:42:56 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
OK, I'll approach it like this. Regardless of what "influence" means, Paul influences very few these days, COMPARED to the Beatle days. I think most people would agree with that.

The next bit is more controversial. I think Paul had little influence on popular music after the Beatles broke up EXCEPT that his bass playing became a model for many, many musicians who weren't even born until the late 70s!


I have to agree, for the most part.  He was a huge influence as a Beatle and as a Beatle still influences younger musicians (on a lesser scale than 2 or 3 decades ago).

As to his solo influence?  Negligible.  Next to none.  Jellyfish covered Jet, calling it the sexiest song ever made.  No, I don't know what they meant either.


Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 09, 2005, 03:44:10 AM
I just watched the Halftime performance again. It was even better the 2nd time around.  I didn't notice the star on Paul's shirt the other night. I'm assuming that was a slight jab at the wardrobe malfunction from last year? Janet had a star on the dreaded right breast didn't she?
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 10, 2005, 09:44:04 PM
Was Paul's voice OK?
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Fried_Chicken on February 10, 2005, 10:34:21 PM
yes
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 11, 2005, 03:29:37 AM
Quote from: TheMasterOfGoingFaster
Was Paul's voice OK?


Paul's voice was super strong, he kicked alot of you know what in 12 minutes.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Fried_Chicken on February 12, 2005, 05:19:14 PM
bettern than the 2002 tour
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: on February 18, 2005, 01:37:19 AM
Good, because when you listen to Let It Be from his Glastonbury performance he's wobbling all over the place.

Paul's voice has matured very well (unlike say Brian Wilson's) whilst he can't pull off the inoccent youthfull voice anymore  he makes up with it with a little gravel making songs like Lonely Road send a shiver down my spine.
Title: Re: Paul Super Bowl
Post by: Sondra on February 24, 2005, 03:29:30 AM
I liked when he did the Beatle bow after Get Back. Anyone else notice that? So cute!!!!