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Title: Frank Sinatra
Post by: KelMar on November 14, 2012, 04:39:47 AM
I got to unpack some albums tonight too. Not the ones I'd like to be unpacking but a big box of old records. Someone who is cleaning out their dad's house gave them to me. I hope I can get this one cleaned up but if it doesn't play at least it's a real swingin' cover:

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee372/KelMar1963/Frank-Sinatra-Album-No-One-Cares-frank-sinatra-6382047-500-500.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: ibanez_ax on November 14, 2012, 04:46:10 AM
I hope it plays.  I have Songs For Swingin' Lovers, Come Dance With Me! and Sinatra Reprise: The Very Good Years on CD.  They are all good.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 14, 2012, 04:51:18 AM
Ah!  Frank Sinatra's hat phase.  Many LP covers during his Capitol years featured him with a hat...

(http://www.thebluegrassspecial.com/archive/2008/december2008/imagesdecember2008/sinatraCapitol.jpg)

(http://www.bourbonhours.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/frank-sinatra-54-songs-for-young-lovers-1.jpg)

(http://www.qpratools.com/gallery/0007/frank_sinatra-swing_easy-front.jpg)

Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: ibanez_ax on November 14, 2012, 04:58:36 AM
Speaking of hats...

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Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: KelMar on November 14, 2012, 05:05:11 AM
Well, if all else fails there's good old YouTube....

"Ghost of a Chance" - Frank Sinatra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMuQiwU6-ic#ws)
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: KelMar on November 14, 2012, 05:27:46 AM
Speaking of hats...

Frank certainly did rock the hats!
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Dcazz on November 14, 2012, 05:01:39 PM
A few years ago I read about a HS principle who played Frank records during afterschool detention and was very successful in improving behavior!
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: ibanez_ax on November 14, 2012, 05:19:40 PM
A few years ago I read about a HS principle who played Frank records during afterschool detention and was very successful in improving behavior!

I wonder how many of those students saw the light as they got older and listen to Frank now?
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: KelMar on November 15, 2012, 03:43:56 PM
I wonder how many of those students saw the light as they got older and listen to Frank now?

Geez, it probably put them off Frank for life!
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Dcazz on November 15, 2012, 04:01:06 PM
Geez, it probably put them off Frank for life!
It's probable! they probably can't understand their lifelong attraction to fedoras! Lol!
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 15, 2012, 04:42:35 PM
I wonder how many of those students saw the light as they got older and listen to Frank now?


Plenty, I'm sure.  It's a phenomenon that has gone on for several generations...

509 Catch As Cats Can - 1947 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmPAFXB0gwM#)

Frank Sinatra and Eddie Hodges - High Hopes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TwS-YTZ_i8#)

Frank Sinatra - High Hopes (with lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54yGSDBXdCM#)


Today, you'll find shows on AM, FM and XM radio dedicated to "The Voice."  There are even streaming internet Sinatra stations.  Here in the NYC area, Saturday With Sinatra on FM radio has been around for decades.

For any doubters of his exceptional talent, a simple two hour session listening to one of these sources will get the listener to "see the light."
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Dcazz on November 15, 2012, 04:47:40 PM
Plenty, I'm sure.  It's a phenomenon that has gone on for several generations...

509 Catch As Cats Can - 1947 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmPAFXB0gwM#[/url])

Frank Sinatra and Eddie Hodges - High Hopes ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TwS-YTZ_i8#[/url])

Frank Sinatra - High Hopes (with lyrics) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54yGSDBXdCM#[/url])


Today, you'll find shows on AM, FM and XM radio dedicated to "The Voice."  There are even streaming internet Sinatra stations.  Here in the NYC area, Saturday With Sinatra on FM radio has been around for decades.

For any doubters of his exceptional talent, a simple two hour session listening to one of these sources will get the listener to "see the light."
My mom used to go on about him as we do the Beatles! Sometimes she would imitate him (try) and my freinds and I would laugh and mock gag and she would laugh about it. He gets the respect, he was up there with the best!
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 15, 2012, 05:42:05 PM
My mom used to go on about him as we do the Beatles! Sometimes she would imitate him (try) and my freinds and I would laugh and mock gag and she would laugh about it. He gets the respect, he was up there with the best!


Yes, he's inimitable and was a master of phrasing.  His voice matured nicely as he aged.

One of my favorite Sinatra songs is one he did with his daughter Nancy...


Something Stupid

Frank & Nancy Sinatra - Something stupid (HQ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f48fpoSEPU#ws)
1966

Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 15, 2012, 06:09:54 PM
Frank Sinatra Jr came close to sounding like his dad here...


Somethin' Stupid Nancy Sinatra and Frank Sinatra, Jr. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKsbx4meBTY#)
1967
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: ibanez_ax on November 15, 2012, 08:59:24 PM
When I was a kid, I didn't want to run out of the room when my parents played Sinatra records like I did when they played some other stuff.  So I thought the guy had potential.  ha2ha
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: stevie on November 15, 2012, 09:46:22 PM
Dude was a decent actor as well!

I'm a huge fan of Marilyn and Frankie sort of was involved with some nasty stuff to do with her, though he certainly wasn't involved in her murder.

I read once that John wrote 'And Your Bird Can Sing' because one of Frank's fave phrases was like, 'how's your bird' and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: KelMar on November 16, 2012, 06:27:26 AM
My mom used to go on about him as we do the Beatles! Sometimes she would imitate him (try) and my freinds and I would laugh and mock gag and she would laugh about it. He gets the respect, he was up there with the best!


Yep, it was just like The Beatles...

Frank Sinatra Causes Riot in NYC Paramount Theater (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq_wus1KL6Q#)

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee372/KelMar1963/bobbysoxers.jpg)

http://www.paleycenter.org/sinatra-the-bobby-soxers/ (http://www.paleycenter.org/sinatra-the-bobby-soxers/)

Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 25, 2012, 06:30:31 AM
(http://pdxretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/sinatra-1944-70_thumb.jpg)


(http://pdxretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/frank-in-44_thumb.jpg)



On October 12th 1944 – Frank Sinatra opened his third season at New
York’s Paramount theatre. He was greeted by a huge crowd of fans,
mostly teenaged girls, When they refused to leave after the first show,
the frustrated crowd outside waiting to catch the next show went berserk,
sparking what became known at the “Columbus Day Riot “. It took 200
police along and 421 reserves to control the rampage.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Ovi on November 20, 2013, 06:21:02 PM
I respect him and all, but I really can't stand listening to his music. It's not any particular thing, just the vibe I get from it - that serious, macho attitude turns me off. I guess I like my music to be more laid-back. To give an example, I prefer Robbie Williams' and Nicole Kidman's cover of Something Stupid. It's just....dunno, more fun to listen to. I confess to never hearing a full album of his though, just the ocasional song.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: KelMar on November 20, 2013, 07:17:35 PM
I respect him and all, but I really can't stand listening to his music. It's not any particular thing, just the vibe I get from it - that serious, macho attitude turns me off.

I can understand what you're saying Ovi. I have mixed feelings about him. I do really like a lot of his music but I don't think I would have wanted to ever meet him!
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: ibanez_ax on November 21, 2013, 12:54:27 AM
I respect him and all, but I really can't stand listening to his music. It's not any particular thing, just the vibe I get from it - that serious, macho attitude turns me off. I guess I like my music to be more laid-back. To give an example, I prefer Robbie Williams' and Nicole Kidman's cover of Something Stupid. It's just....dunno, more fun to listen to. I confess to never hearing a full album of his though, just the ocasional song.

He sings about lonlieness and heartache a lot more than most people realize.  I don't hear macho posturing.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: ibanez_ax on November 21, 2013, 12:55:44 AM
I can understand what you're saying Ovi. I have mixed feelings about him. I do really like a lot of his music but I don't think I would have wanted to ever meet him!

I would rather have met him than Van Morrison.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 21, 2013, 01:01:42 AM
I respect him and all, but I really can't stand listening to his music. It's not any particular thing, just the vibe I get from it - that serious, macho attitude turns me off. I guess I like my music to be more laid-back. To give an example, I prefer Robbie Williams' and Nicole Kidman's cover of Something Stupid. It's just....dunno, more fun to listen to. I confess to never hearing a full album of his though, just the ocasional song.


Then you're not really in a position to judge his music, Ovi.  But it's good of you to admit that.



I can understand what you're saying Ovi. I have mixed feelings about him. I do really like a lot of his music but I don't think I would have wanted to ever meet him!


I met him once.  I can tell you that he is a man full of contradictitions and mood swings.  But he was wise and genuinely concerned about his fellow man.  At the end of World War II, Frank Sinatra along with several others in show business made strong statements against the rampant prejudice existent at that time.  He's most noted for this short film he made in 1945...


The House I Live In - with Frank Sinatra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhPwtnGviyg#)
The House I Live In   1945


He was a philanthropist and donated millions of dollars for worthy causes, most notably hospital buildings here and abroad.  I learned medicine and surgery in an auditorium donated by him to a major university in New York City.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 21, 2013, 02:53:51 AM
I don't hear macho posturing.

Me neither.  Certainly not in his singing.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: KelMar on November 21, 2013, 04:35:13 AM
He sings about lonlieness and heartache a lot more than most people realze.  I don't hear macho posturing.

He does seem to have a certain reputation regarding his attitude toward women but that's not always a fair way to judge people. In looking around the Internet I saw some quotes attributed to him that seem to indicate that he did indeed respect and admire women. I just don't care for the term "broad" and he seemed to use that quite often! But I do like his music a lot.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: KelMar on November 21, 2013, 04:44:23 AM

I met him once.
 

Yes, I remember that you did.

Quote
I can tell you that he is a man full of contradictitions and mood swings.

I guess meeting him wouldn't have been bad but the thought of spending large amounts of time around moody people makes me really nervous. I feel the same way about John Lennon. I'm glad to hear of the good that Frank Sinatra did.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 21, 2013, 06:35:24 AM
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones

Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 21, 2013, 06:57:42 AM
He sings about lonlieness and heartache a lot more than most people realze.


Frank Sinatra - It Was A Very Good Year (1965) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZmCQyKGktc#ws)
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Ovi on November 21, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
He sings about lonlieness and heartache a lot more than most people realize.  I don't hear macho posturing.

I was not necessarily referring to the themes he's addressing, but rather his style of singing and the backing arrangements. It was a poor choice of words. I don't know, I just don't feel like his music would be my thing, from what I've heard.

Then you're not really in a position to judge his music, Ovi.

A bit harsh, but ultimately I agree with the fact that we shouldn't judge artists based on the radio hits. It's just that nothing I've heard so far convinced me of exploring his albums. Maybe I'm not listening to the right tunes.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: ibanez_ax on November 21, 2013, 12:40:07 PM
I was not necessarily referring to the themes he's addressing, but rather his style of singing and the backing arrangements. It was a poor choice of words. I don't know, I just don't feel like his music would be my thing, from what I've heard.




Fair enough. 
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: oldbrownshoe on November 21, 2013, 01:13:51 PM
I'm the proud owner of precisely no, nil, nought, zip, zero Frank Sinatra/rat pack records.
Now Gene Vincent, Chuck Berry, Crickets, Carl Perkins, Elvis, Larry Williams........that's a different story.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 21, 2013, 03:05:13 PM
A bit harsh, but ultimately I agree with the fact that we shouldn't judge artists based on the radio hits. It's just that nothing I've heard so far convinced me of exploring his albums. Maybe I'm not listening to the right tunes.

What I fully said was not harsh at all.

Quod erat demonstrandum.
Title: Re: Frank Sinatra
Post by: KelMar on March 19, 2015, 03:29:02 AM
On March 18, 1939, Sinatra made a demo recording of a song called "Our Love", with the Frank Mane band. The record has "Frank Sinatra" signed on the front. The bandleader kept the original record in a safe for nearly 60 years. Frank Sinatra by Jean-Pierre Hombach (https://books.google.com/books?id=IRGXAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA4&lpg=PA4&dq=frank+sinatra+demo+march18+1939&source=bl&ots=NY7hdtMSqS&sig=d5itJ3yWpwxNemvDal50w2iLpA4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ykAKVfu2BsebNuj4g9AK&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=frank%20sinatra%20demo%20march18%201939&f=false)

https://youtu.be/ZBgrFV7VhVM