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Title: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 29, 2009, 04:20:48 PM
JjjzhOyEkJY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjjzhOyEkJY)tV2ViLJCNHo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV2ViLJCNHo)
OJfWNmVR4pY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJfWNmVR4pY)TDJiX2CayZY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDJiX2CayZY)
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: Bobber on March 30, 2009, 10:34:53 AM
Another Lennon/McCartney penned hit for Billy:

09PCVcCZWSA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09PCVcCZWSA)
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: Bobber on March 30, 2009, 10:37:13 AM
I'm In Love is another one, but the version by The Fourmost was chosen to be released. This is Billy's version.

QXlNEp-nwco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXlNEp-nwco)
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 30, 2009, 05:35:15 PM
i wonder sometimes why the gave songs to a group to cover that sounded little like them...i know there was a midas touch involved in some cases but billy j was not a rock and roller really...he was more pop...he in my opinion never did the beatle tunes justice...
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 30, 2009, 05:41:45 PM
hj_L5Uru4_8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj_L5Uru4_8)tIYbBA7U7hg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIYbBA7U7hg)
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: Bobber on March 30, 2009, 05:46:09 PM
Quote from: 284
i wonder sometimes why the gave songs to a group to cover that sounded little like them...i know there was a midas touch involved in some cases but billy j was not a rock and roller really...he was more pop...he in my opinion never did the beatle tunes justice...

True that. Epstein probably fell for his trousers.  ;D  But what act DID justice to the Lennon/McCartney songs in the early sixties? The songs they gave away weren't the worst, but somehow the demos sound better to my ears than most other artists that recorded them. Maybe Peter & Gordon did one or two Lennon/McCartney originals that were done well.
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 30, 2009, 05:50:11 PM
yeah i would say that peter and gordon did the best job but then they didn't attempt the rockers...
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 30, 2009, 05:53:18 PM
jspoXNl4ECo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jspoXNl4ECo)
maybe this one too...only the chris barber tune i mean
rxlojssfew8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxlojssfew8)
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: Bobber on March 30, 2009, 05:53:45 PM
Quote from: 284
yeah i would say that peter and gordon did the best job but then they didn't attempt the rockers...

Maybe that's the reason why. I do like Cilla Black's It's For You as well.
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 30, 2009, 05:55:47 PM
don't bring badfinger into this..... ;D
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: Bobber on March 30, 2009, 06:04:01 PM
Quote from: 284
don't bring badfinger into this..... ;D

Oh, I said early sixties, didn't I?  ;D
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 30, 2009, 06:15:01 PM
listen to this contrast...I1lReF8Vqc4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1lReF8Vqc4)uW8zM6kx1V4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW8zM6kx1V4)
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: Bobber on March 30, 2009, 06:18:16 PM
I see what you mean, but maybe not a fair comparison. Songs the Beatles played live and later recorded in the studio sounds smoother too.
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 30, 2009, 06:21:36 PM
granted the beats is a poor recording but it seems to be better than gerrys...a bit more rocking because of the drums and the off key haromizing...gene vincent did the best version of that song by the way... :P
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 30, 2009, 06:25:48 PM
on another note the beatles had this for inspiration SX-ewkukR6w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX-ewkukR6w)
and gerry and group had this hOCB0EvmEY0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOCB0EvmEY0)
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 30, 2009, 06:27:30 PM
george struggles thru his lead part while eddie just shreds... ;D
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on March 30, 2009, 06:29:35 PM
no comment on this...Z_fKKRhvsgE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_fKKRhvsgE)
i'm watching now..... ;D
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: tkitna on March 31, 2009, 04:48:20 AM
Billy J Kramer was on Paul Schaffers tribute to the Dave Clark 5 and sadly, he was pretty bad. His voice is shot. Peter and Gordon got back together for that show too and those old bastards sounded fantastic.
Title: Re: billy j kramer
Post by: pc31 on April 01, 2009, 03:56:10 AM
(http://rickresource.com/irondoorclub/coasters2.jpg)billy and the coasters at the iron door club.......
http://rickresource.com/irondoorclub/