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Title: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: GreenApple on November 23, 2005, 04:16:57 PM
Bet this one hasn't crossed your minds! Linda or Yoko?

If you feel automatically against Yoko, don't forget she did a very good job of vocals on War Is Over, and presumably she sang the part she wrote. Also, her vocals on Attica State are not bad. Other times, I know, her vocals are just awful.

As for me, as yet undecided.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: Kevin on November 23, 2005, 04:32:39 PM
Have to go for Yoko on this one - she was off the wall, but intentionaly so. When she puts her mind to it she can sing well enough. Poor old Linda was along for the ride.(though I haven't heard her solo stuff, so might be wrong)
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: raxo on November 23, 2005, 05:43:17 PM
The matter here is that Yoko was (wanted to be) an artist and so she sang (or tried to) but Linda wasn't (didn't want to) but Paul insisted (but she couldn't).
I don't like neither, but Yoko less. Her line in The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill is annoying, and whatever you want. She was off the wall but I'm not sure if it was intentionaly (an excuse perhaps -in those years, that excuse could work).
At least, Linda tried to harmonize and be 'pop'. Some vocals in Ram LP are quite fine.
Linda for me (she can't make it worse... any more...sadly).
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: Bobber on November 23, 2005, 07:21:05 PM
Yoko? Musical?
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: raxo on November 23, 2005, 10:54:59 PM
^Ha, ha,... yeah, Yoko?
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: The End on November 24, 2005, 12:21:08 AM
I actually like a few of her songs - Remember Love, Sisters O Sisters, Born In A Prison, Attica State, Kiss Kiss Kiss, Walking On Thin Ice and others that I'm too drunk to remember right now! ;D
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: Bobber on November 24, 2005, 11:50:09 AM
True, you have to be drunk to like Yoko's singing.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: The End on November 24, 2005, 12:16:34 PM
LOL!!

Actually, I'm sober now and STILL like those tracks! Weird, huh! ;D
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: Bobber on November 24, 2005, 12:18:06 PM
You're under her spell as well...
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: raxo on November 24, 2005, 01:42:06 PM
Quote from: The_End
I actually like a few of her songs - Remember Love, Sisters O Sisters, Born In A Prison, Attica State, Kiss Kiss Kiss, Walking On Thin Ice and others that I'm too drunk to remember right now! ;D

Are you one of those whom like Sometime In New York LP? I am one. ;D
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: GreenApple on November 24, 2005, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: raxo
The matter here is that Yoko was (wanted to be) an artist and so she sang (or tried to) but Linda wasn't (didn't want to) but Paul insisted (but she couldn't).
I don't like neither, but Yoko less. Her line in The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill is annoying, and whatever you want. She was off the wall but I'm not sure if it was intentionaly (an excuse perhaps -in those years, that excuse could work).
At least, Linda tried to harmonize and be 'pop'. Some vocals in Ram LP are quite fine.
Linda for me (she can't make it worse... any more...sadly).

I'm still undecided. I agree with her part on Bungalow Bill. I can't stand that song anyway, but with Yoko on it I'm guaranteed to listen to it hardly ever. I might opt for Yoko, but only because of War Is Over. Undeniably, IMO, she makes it even more evocative and wistful.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: pc31 on November 24, 2005, 02:07:03 PM
yoko hands down...
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: GreenApple on November 24, 2005, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: pc31
yoko hands down...

It's a bit like saying the better choice between two poor options to me, but I think you are probably right.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: pc31 on November 24, 2005, 02:19:39 PM
if you look at yokos work b4 john...it is more than linda did b4....but i am not saying yoko because of volume but because she released some very weird stuff.not the kind that a person with class worries about either....
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: The End on November 26, 2005, 02:47:48 PM
Quote from: raxo

Are you one of those whom like Sometime In New York LP? I am one. ;D

Hell yeah!!! ;D

I cannot forgive her for her contribution to Luck of the Irish though!!!! AWFUL!

Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: Mairi on November 26, 2005, 03:50:13 PM
I like Linda's stuff a lot so I'm going to have to go with her. I', no saying she's talented or anything, just better than Yoko.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: An Apple Beatle on November 26, 2005, 04:51:13 PM
I like the way Yoko seemed to inspire John to write. That's the only basis of them being musical wives in my eyes.

Generally, I dis-like anything with either of their voices on. Neither were mysically gifted.

I'd say Yoko....Especially if she inspired the line 'I'd love to turn you on.' Her effect on Lennon is mis-understood a lot. Although, I'm still not much of a fan of hers.

Both women can claim to have made their partners write some fantastic songs. Lennon's are the more interesting in this respect.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: raxo on November 26, 2005, 05:07:02 PM
Quote from: The_End

Hell yeah!!! ;D

I cannot forgive her for her contribution to Luck of the Irish though!!!! AWFUL!


Well,  :B  ... her touch, isn't it?  ;D
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: raxo on November 26, 2005, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
I like the way Yoko seemed to inspire John to write. That's the only basis of them being musical wives in my eyes.

I'd say Yoko....Especially if she inspired the line 'I'd love to turn you on.' Her effect on Lennon is mis-understood a lot. Although, I'm still not much of a fan of hers.

Both women can claim to have made their partners write some fantastic songs. Lennon's are the more interesting in this respect.

Well, Patti inspired Layla and some say Something too (George denied this). I this was true she was the best musical wife of history.
John said once that
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: An Apple Beatle on November 26, 2005, 05:19:57 PM
That's interesting Raxo. Paul suggested that line? I take it all back what I said. lol

I hear what you say about Patti. 2 incredible songs but not the same abundance of inspired songs as our prolific masters.

It is subjective and I suppose good knowledge of their solo careers would help me in this matter. I've been a bit of a 'best of' fan with their solo music.

Does anyone know what Lennon's first song written after he met Yoko was? Would be interesting to know.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: raxo on November 26, 2005, 05:46:23 PM
John met Yoko in Nov 09, 1966 and the first song the guys recorded after that date was Strawberry Fields Forever, but we all know that was composed (and written) in Almeria, Spain. The next one was `In The Life Of... (working title of `A Day In The Life') (takes 1-4) and it was recorded in Jan 19, 1967. Was this one the first that John wrote after he met Yoko?. He said that A Day In The life was one he'd got but he couldn't finish, so...
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: Mairi on November 26, 2005, 05:48:22 PM
At least Linda wasn't pretentious like Yoko. If Yoko thinks she is talented, that woman is SORELY mistaken!
Besides, Paul wrote more love songs than John so it's safe to say Linda inspired more of them.
I recommend Linda's little solo album, Wide Prarie. It's not a masterpiece or anything but it's a fun little record.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: pc31 on November 26, 2005, 08:10:34 PM
Quote from: Mairi
At least Linda wasn't pretentious like Yoko. If Yoko thinks she is talented, that woman is SORELY mistaken!
Besides, Paul wrote more love songs than John so it's safe to say Linda inspired more of them.
I recommend Linda's little solo album, Wide Prarie. It's not a masterpiece or anything but it's a fun little record.
not pretentious???she had to be to play in wings.....
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: raxo on November 26, 2005, 10:57:47 PM
Quote from: raxo
Well, Patti inspired Layla and some say Something too (George denied this). I this was true she was the best musical wife of history.

With An Apple Beatle on my mind, one curiosity (sorry, GreenApple for the off topic thing
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: An Apple Beatle on November 27, 2005, 02:34:37 PM
Thanks for the link. ;)
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: raxo on November 27, 2005, 03:19:27 PM
Only a pastime.  ;D
BTW I've added some extra info to the previous post about John first song after he met Yoko, if you want us to investigate more,... you know what to do.  :)
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: Bobber on December 03, 2005, 10:36:13 AM
I tried to listen to Double Fantasy the past few days. But I just cannot stand Yoko's voice. 'You're a beautiful boy, With all your little toys'. It sends shivers down my spine. This lady is just not talented.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: pc31 on December 03, 2005, 11:25:19 AM
i would rather bed linda than croko.........
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: GreenApple on December 03, 2005, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: Bobber
I tried to listen to Double Fantasy the past few days. But I just cannot stand Yoko's voice. 'You're a beautiful boy, With all your little toys'. It sends shivers down my spine. This lady is just not talented.

I agree, except for a few examples - War Is Over, Attica State. But, if Yoko had given her songs to John to sing, it might have been quite pleasing!
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: Bobber on May 19, 2006, 01:18:56 PM
Quote from: GreenApple
But, if Yoko had given her songs to John to sing, it might have been quite pleasing!

The thing is she didn't. She probably thinks she's good enough to sing it herself.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: pc31 on May 20, 2006, 10:30:51 AM
she also thought she wrote better than him.....when you see her compare her work to johns she says hers was more innovative than his...she thinks her parts made his stuff better i bet...
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: on May 25, 2006, 03:47:19 PM
yoko, in terms of an artist definatley, and in musical most probably as well i mean she played piano well and vibres, and yeah her vocals are wacky but quite cool at some parts.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: on June 08, 2006, 03:53:56 AM
God, this thread nearly nullifies the whole site. Linda was marginally talented at best, but she never tried to get in the way, usurp any attention that was being paid to Paul, stayed in the background and was as unpretentious as could be (and the crew never unplugged her piano like they did with Yoko at the One To One Concert). Yoko thought everything she did was art and was on the same level as John, always was in the way, couldn't play squat, and couldn't carry a note if it had handles. What the f*** people? It's also unlikely that if Paul had gotten shot, that Linda would have had his blood stained suit, bass, glasses--anything on a f***ing album cover. It's amazing what sh*t people will buy into, and, even though it's just my opinion, some of the people defending the Ocean Child from Hell on this post is incredible to me. I thought you had more of a clue than that.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: JimColyer on June 18, 2006, 01:09:04 AM
Neither one.  I choose Agnetha and Frida of ABBA.
Title: Re: The Better Musical Wife - Yoko Or Linda?
Post by: raxo on November 13, 2006, 11:17:22 PM
Quote from: 360
I actually like a few of her songs - Remember Love, Sisters O Sisters, Born In A Prison, Attica State, Kiss Kiss Kiss, Walking On Thin Ice and others that I'm too drunk to remember right now! ;D


"In 2003, riding on the success of several Ono club remixes including "Open Your Box" and "Kiss Kiss Kiss", "Walking On Thin Ice" was released as a maxi-single with remixes by distinguished dance artists including the Pet Shop Boys, Danny Tenaglia and Felix Da Housecat. It met incredible success, spending many weeks on the U.S. dance charts before reaching No. 1, beating Madonna and Justin Timberlake. Ono is probably the first 70-year-old to have a No. 1 hit anywhere in the world. It is worth noting that on the extended 12" mix of the original track (available as the B-side to "Cape Clear"), Lennon can be heard remarking "I think we've just got your first No. 1, Yoko."

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"Walking On Thin Ice" is a New Wave/dance song by Yoko Ono, released in 1981. It was recorded on December 8, 1980 in collaboration with her husband John Lennon. Later that night when the couple returned to The Dakota (their home in New York City), Lennon was murdered by deranged fan Mark David Chapman. Lennon's guitarwork on the track was thus his final creative act. Less than a month later, "Walking on Thin Ice" was released as a single and became Ono's first chart success, peaking at No. 58 and gaining major underground airplay. The lyrics talk of the unpredictability of life and death -- of "throwing the dice in the air" -- and reach the conclusion, "when our hearts return to ashes, it will be just a story....". With the world in shock, a new poignancy was added to the already haunting yet highly danceable track.

"It Happened" was selected as the B-side to the 1981 single - a slower, mellow track about acceptance from Ono's vaults that was originally recorded for A Story and had already seen limited release in Japan as the B-side to "Yume O Moto". Much like the A-side, the lyrics have a new haunting quality given Lennon's assassination: "It happened at a time of my life/When I least expected... And I know there's no return, no way". In the essay on the back of the single, Ono talks about how Lennon picked out this track from her old tapes and marked it as a hit. She said "No way!" to which he responded "I'll make it a hit". He was killed hours later.


from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_on_Thin_Ice

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By the way, I don't dislike It Happened  :-/...