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Title: The Beatles relationships with each other.
Post by: nimrod on September 24, 2011, 12:07:17 AM
There were obviously plenty of tensions between the boys...

In 1977, Harrison had this to say about working with McCartney: "There were a lot of tracks though where I played bass...because what Paul would do, if he's written a song, he'd learn all the parts for Paul and then come in the studio and say, 'Do this.' He'd never give you the opportunity to come out with something. Paul would always help along when you'd done his ten songs—then when he got 'round to doing one of my songs, he would help. It was silly. It was very selfish, actually."
While being interviewed circa 1988, Harrison said McCartney had recently mentioned the possibility of the two of them writing together, to which Harrison laughed, "I've only been there about 30 years in Paul's life and it's like now he wants to write with me."
Title: Re: The Beatles relationships with each other.
Post by: Toejam on September 24, 2011, 08:46:38 AM
He was obviously exagerating. They worked on the songs as they came along so there was no way Paul did 10 songs on a row or anything like that and I seriously doubt George played much bass. Where's the evidence. Some tracks that we know about like She said she said but apart from that I don't think there's been any talk of George playing bass. John seemed to do it during Let it be session on Let it be & L&WR.  George was in a difficult position because he just wasn't as talented as Paul & John when it came to songwriting and I always think he should have just appreciated what he'd got...y'know...a fortune!!! and respected the fact that he'd got that fortune more through being in the right place at the right time more than being an irriplaceable musician or like Paul and John a genius.
Title: Re: The Beatles relationships with each other.
Post by: cubanheel on September 24, 2011, 01:01:57 PM
I think some of the quotes from individual Beatles over the years have obviously got a lot of anger and hurt behind them, and a bit of sibling feeling, like they wanted to lashout at each other. Also, you do remember stuff in a bit of a warped way when you're licking your wounds. I think George did not come out from the 60's unscathed.  NB: Ringo learned to play chess on Sgt Peppers. It wasn't all lightbulbs going off overhead all the time!
Title: Re: The Beatles relationships with each other.
Post by: Gary910 on September 24, 2011, 05:04:04 PM
George had reason to be hurt. Granted, until maybe the White Album sessions George was not as good of a songwriter as John and Paul. 1968 and thereafter, I think his songs were every bit as good. The thing that George might have forgotten when he said this was that John was Paul's songwriting partner. George was Paul's lead guitarist as Paul was George's bass player. Obviously, there are exceptions (note: the guitar solo on George's "Taxman").

It would have been nice to see George and Paul write. It should have happened maybe in the late '70s. Paul would have been smart to do so at that time, before John was killed. Now that both John and George are dead, it is sad, that Paul can't go back and do things differently.

We also must remember that 1987/8 was a renewal time for Paul. If you go back and look at interviews and so forth that Paul did around this time, he was starting a new phase.
Title: Re: The Beatles relationships with each other.
Post by: Klang on September 24, 2011, 09:09:27 PM

They took their lucky break and broke it in two.

 :-\

Title: Re: The Beatles relationships with each other.
Post by: nimrod on September 24, 2011, 10:16:45 PM
I always think he should have just appreciated what he'd got...y'know...a fortune!!! and respected the fact that he'd got that fortune more through being in the right place at the right time more than being an irriplaceable musician or like Paul and John a genius.

I think it was always difficult for George, I think he was regularly treated as a bit of a 2nd class citizen by John & Paul, he knew and they knew that his talent was lesser, he HAD to accept that.