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Beatles forums => Albums => Topic started by: Wayne L. on April 08, 2004, 10:02:39 AM
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1. Fixing A Hole
2. Good Morning Good Morning
3. A Day In The Life
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Here are my choices:
A Day In the Life
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
She's Leaving Home
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what about top 5?
A Day in the life
Fixing a hole
When i'm 64
She's leaving
LSD
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Too hard.
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1. Lovely Rita
2. Fixing a Hole
3. Getting Better
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1. A Day In The Life
2. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
3. Getting Better
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[quote by=Zep_Fan link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=3 date=1081432606]Too hard.[/quote]
Try harder.
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OK. *Tries* *Fails* Way too hard. >_<
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1. Sgt. Peppers...
2. She's leaving home
3. Good morning, good morning
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a day in the life
LSD
she's leaving home
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With a little help from my friends
She's leaving home
Getting better
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-Sgt.pepper's LHCB (intro & reprise) 8) :D
-Lucy In the sky with diamonds
-a day in the life
i also really like lovely rita
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Day in the life (the musical orgazm...)
LSD
Fixing a hole
Benefit for Mr Kite
Getting Better
SPLHCB
Huh that's more than 3... (think) But I can't chose only 3 from my fave album.
::)
(smoking1)
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A Day In The Life
Lovely Rita
Getting Better
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1. A Day In The Life
2. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
3. Lovely Rita
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*Tries Again*
1. Lovely Rita
2. She's Leaving Home
3. Getting Better
I think.
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Fixing a hole
Good Morning Good Morning
SPLHCB
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A day in the life
Lovely rita
Within you, without you
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1:Sgt. Peppers
2:Lucy in the sky with diamonds
3:shes leaving
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1. Within You Without You
2. Lovely Rita
3. When I'm 64
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1. lucy in the sky with diamonds
2. Good morning
3. Sgt Peppers
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1. A Day in the Life
2. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band/With A Little Help From My Friends
3. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
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A day in the life
she's leaving home
Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite
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Good Morning
LSD
A Day in the Life
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A Day In The Life
Sgt. Pepper's
Fixing A Hole
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1. A Day In The Life
2. Fixing A Hole
3. Within You Without You
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About half of the posts didn't include "A Day in the Life" kind of shocking....then again, it's always hard to choose favorite tracks from an all around masterpiece album.
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1 a day in the life
2lsd
3 sgt pepper
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1. Getting Better
2. Sgt. Pepper
3.and....either With A Little Help or Lovely Rita *flips a coin* it's Lovely Rita.
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With a little help from my friends
Fixing a hole
A day in the life
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1. A Day in the Life (very popular...)
2. Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite
3. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
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God...
1. With a little help
2. A day in the life
3. When I'm 64
Very hard choice - I love ALL the tracks on Peppers
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1. sgt.pepper reprise
2.lovely rita
3.good morning,good morning
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1. A Day in The Life
2. Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
3. Lucy in The Sky With Diamonds
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does anybody rearrange the songs so they were put in the way they were supposed to be arranged?
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Ugh, make me choose between the wonderful songs on my favourite album. Cruel, wicked you are! ;)
1. Lucy in the sky with diamonds
2. Sgt. Pepper's ...
3. Lovely Rita
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1. Sgt Peppers
2. A Day In The Life
3. Lovely Rita
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1. A Day in the Life.
2. She's Leaving Home.
3. Getting Better.
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She's Leaving Home, Lovely Rita, When I'm 64
Paul was so great on that album :)
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yeah, She's Leaving home..what a song.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=38 date=1091460871]She's Leaving Home, Lovely Rita, When I'm 64
Paul was so great on that album :)[/quote]
Paul is great on every album!!!!!
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Another Mccartney fan.
I feel we are in a minority :)
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Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
Lovely Rita
When I'm 64
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[quote by=IndicaWalrus link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=41 date=1091461409]Another Mccartney fan.
I feel we are in a minority :)[/quote]
I know. Lennon fans are in the greater majority :(
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Yeah it's a good song, without reaching great heights. Without Lennon's additions in the chorus, the song would be another Paulie Pepper filler (like Getting Better, When I'm 64 and Rita). Good filler, I know, but filler still.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=44 date=1091518543]Yeah it's a good song, without reaching great heights. Without Lennon's additions in the chorus, the song would be another Paulie Pepper filler (like Getting Better, When I'm 64 and Rita). Good filler, I know, but filler still.[/quote]
Wait, which song is filler? I lost you there.
And please tell me what qualifies a song as "filler". I know you said good filler, but I think Lovely Rita, 64, and Getting Better are pretty strong songs. Lovely Rita is one of the funniest songs to listen to, especially with all that alliteration and assonance in it.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=45 date=1091567661]
Wait, which song is filler? I lost you there.
And please tell me what qualifies a song as "filler".
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In Paul's defense, WHEN I'M 64 is not filler. It may be sappy, but it's not filler.
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THe problem is is that the more i listen to the beatles my favorites change around. So my vote changes....
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I'd have to say that my fave 3 are (in no particular order)...
Getting Better
SPLHCB/With a Little Help from my Friends
She's Leaving Home
In response to the debate about "filler"... I can see why Maria would say that "When I'm 64" is filler, since it's just a cute little fun song, I guess you could say. "Lovely Rita"--maybe. But it can stand on its own pretty well. And "Getting Better"? Not filler at all, IMO. It can stand on its own completely, and it's message is pretty uplifting. The song itself has great harmonies and the lyrics aren't always just for fun, like they are in "When I'm 64," for example. I mean, when Smash Mouth covered the song, they even cut out the whole "I used to be cruel to my woman, I'd beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved..." verse. I wouldn't consider a song with words like that "filler."
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[quote by=The_Word link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=49 date=1091604124]
In response to the debate about "filler"... I can see why Maria would say that "When I'm 64" is filler, since it's just a cute little fun song, I guess you could say. "Lovely Rita"--maybe. But it can stand on its own pretty well. And "Getting Better"? Not filler at all, IMO. It can stand on its own completely, and it's message is pretty uplifting. The song itself has great harmonies and the lyrics aren't always just for fun, like they are in "When I'm 64," for example. I mean, when Smash Mouth covered the song, they even cut out the whole "I used to be cruel to my woman, I'd beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved..." verse. I wouldn't consider a song with words like that "filler."[/quote]
I agree, Janice.
I also think Mr.Kite is fillerish but Lennon fans may find that hard to swallow.
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[quote by=Joe_Karlosi link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=47 date=1091572110]In Paul's defense, WHEN I'M 64 is not filler. It may be sappy, but it's not filler.[/quote]
Agreed.
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There's so much classification of filler in Sgt. Pepper that I'm wondering what some of you think are the stand-out songs. At this rate, only the title track and A Day In The Life are "non-filler".
I'm trying to find out what you guys consider filler and why. Maria totally missed the mark of explaining anything, so I pretty much skipped her post. I always thought of She's Leaving Home, Lovely Rita, and 64 as three of the stronger songs on the album.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=52 date=1091683143]
Maria totally missed the mark of explaining anything, so I pretty much skipped her post.
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I don't agree with this:
[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=53 date=1091690485]Getting Better: A filler, but good filler (as I said before). Saved brilliantly by John's "It can't get no worse" and "I used to be cruel to my woman ....etc etc" pieces.[/quote]
If John saved the song, how is it still filler? I'm not trying to challenge you in any way; I just want to hear your reasons. :)
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"Fixing A Hole: I regard this as Paul's only psychedelic track - ever - and it's a good one. Love the lead guitar."
Im sorry, but this is total nonsesne.
Penny Lane? Magical Mystery Tour? Sgt Pepper? Carnival of Light? Yellow Submarine? ..Just because its not in your face psychedelia, does not mean its not there.
She's Leaving Home: A middle-class story about a middle-class rebel. Saved by John's contributions to the chorus ("we didn't know it was wrong", "fun is the one thing ...." etc)
Saved? erm..no.
What does Saved mean exactly?
Its a great song regardless of Johns input, although it does add another dimension.
Still, I'd put it in the same catergory as Eleanor Rigby and For No One.....Classic songs.
I realised your Song Explanation was pretty John-Biased Maria..but that is expected on this forum.
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[quote by=The_Word link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=54 date=1091692117]I agree with you on most of the songs, but I still don't agree with this:
If John saved the song, how is it still filler? I'm not trying to challenge you in any way; I just want to hear your reasons. :)[/quote]
Easy. Without John's contribution, the song is filler. John made it good filler.
Why is it "filler"? Well, the song doesn't do much, does it? Lots of "getting better, getting so much better all the time" in the chorus. At least John put a bit of bite into it.
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Meh. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Just because its chorus is a bit simple doesn't necessarily mean it's filler. The verses and harmonies, IMO, make the song much more than just "filler."
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[quote by=IndicaWalrus link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=55 date=1091707186]"Fixing A Hole: I regard this as Paul's only psychedelic track - ever - and it's a good one. Love the lead guitar."
Im sorry, but this is total nonsesne.
Penny Lane? Magical Mystery Tour? Sgt Pepper? Carnival of Light? Yellow Submarine? ..Just because its not in your face psychedelia, does not mean its not there.
She's Leaving Home: A middle-class story about a middle-class rebel. Saved by John's contributions to the chorus ("we didn't know it was wrong", "fun is the one thing ...." etc)
Saved? erm..no.
What does Saved mean exactly?
Its a great song regardless of Johns input, although it does add another dimension.
Still, I'd put it in the same catergory as Eleanor Rigby and For No One.....Classic songs.
I realised your Song Explanation was pretty John-Biased Maria..but that is expected on this forum.[/quote]
Leaving out Carnival Of Light (which I've not heard, except for a snippet), those other songs are not, in my opinion, psychedelic. I don't know what else to say!
As for She's Leaving Home, it lacks the subtlety of Rigby and For No One. Paul liked to tell a story: he does so in Leaving Home. In Rigby, he's not telling a story, but decrying loneliness, and sad wasted lives: there's a bit of a story-line there, but it's a vehice for making a point. For No One has no story -- it describes (brilliantly) the attitudes of both lovers when the affair is over.
Leaving Home is too linear: She leaves, they find out, she meets her man. Parents regret, she doesn't seem to (but see below). End.
However, I will say that the touch "leaving the note that she hoped would say more" is very nice. You see, the song is OK -- it's simply not a top notch Beatle song!
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If you think those three songs are three of the stronger songs on Pepper, then I think you miss the point of Beatle music. So here we go with what I think of Pepper's tracks: I think that if you think that, then you really don't know how to agree to disagree. Obviously the whole board must not know the point of Beatles music since you've gotten a dozen people to disagree with you
Sgt Pepper's LHCB: A good opener, but nothing special about the song. I love the mono version's more up-front guitar. I love Paul's voice in this, for one -- that's something it has going for it. And you're right, it is a good opener, but maybe it IS a filler since it is pretty essential in the album. I do, however, enjoy it as much as, say, It Won't Be Long, I don't consider IWBL filler.
With A Little Help: A wonderful track, setting a good mood. Perfect vehicle for Ringo. Yes.
Lucy: All-time Beatle masterpiece, and it can still send shivers up my spine. Thanks to Paul for suggesting to John how best to sing it (elide the words, dreamily). Mono version sounds better for me. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds doesn't do it for me like the other songs in this album, if you know what I mean. I like it, but it never quite moved me, perhaps because I may have had to have been alive and experience this when it first came out to know where you're coming from. But since I don't, I do not consider this a masterpiece as much as I consider it a solid Lennon song.
Getting Better: A filler, but good filler (as I said before). Saved brilliantly by John's "It can't get no worse" and "I used to be cruel to my woman ....etc etc" pieces. Like others have said, just because he repeats "Getting Better" a lot, it does not make it filler. It's a very enjoyable song, but like you said, you must like it to to call it GOOD filler. I just don't think that's the case.
Fixing A Hole: I regard this as Paul's only psychedelic track - ever - and it's a good one. Love the lead guitar. I'll refer you to Indica's comments.
She's Leaving Home: A middle-class story about a middle-class rebel. Saved by John's contributions to the chorus ("we didn't know it was wrong", "fun is the one thing ...." etc) You also said in another thread that the song was too linear. First off, I do agree that I adored John's singing in this, but the Beatles were a TEAM. They wrote a LOT of songs together, and this is an example of how they acted as a team -- Lennon's voice was obviously the best for this part. They could have easily put Paul's vocals in twice, but he doesn't have that voice to do the part, just like it wouldn't make sense for Harrison to sing Octopus' Garden.
A team effort, and one of my favorite songs to listen to. My science teacher from back in 5th grade, for instance, said this song was one of her favorites to listen to growing up, and I don't think filler would have that kind of effect. I also don't understand this "linear" argument... the song is supposed to be a story. Why should every song have that Eleanor Rigby touch to it by using a story as a vehicle for driving a point? The fact that it ISN'T immitating that masterpiece is great, as Paul is not using the same formula as before.
Mr Kite: Nice psychedelia. Heavy-sounding lyrics, great creation of atmosphere. Yes, but this ISN'T filler? Mr. Kite is very nice, but isn't as nice as She's Leaving Home, 64, or Rita.
Within You Without You: I know I'm in a minority, but I think this is another all-time Beatle masterpiece. This is a densely-packed five minutes of music played on a variety of east-and-west instruments that beseech and plead through words that are ... well, wise words. I never was too big of a fan of this piece, so I'll refrain from saying anythign about it.
64: Did someone wedge this ditty after Within You to show up Paul's emptiness? Wouldn't surprise me! The funnest song to listen to in this album, When I'm 64 is NOT filler. It's fun to sing, fun to play, fun to listen to, and one of the best on the album.
Rita: A very cool song in the way it's played. But the lyrics ... it's filler (but good, as I said before) I don't really care if the lyrics aren't like Yesterday or Eleanor Rigby or For No One... this song relies on alliteration and consonance, and is excuted brilliantly. Well done, Paul!
Good Morning: A bustling, busy, back-in-time, forward-in-time classic. Not a classic IMHO. Definitely not much better than any of the other "good fillers" you mentioned
SPLHCB reprise: Kind of cute, but well done. On ya Paulie. Agreed.
A Day In The Life: One of the great Beatle maserpieces, maybe their greatest. Still get the goosebumps as John gently sings "I read the news today, oh boy" Yes, but you could say PAUL saved this. John couldn't think of the middle-eight, so Paul made up the "Woke up, got out of bed" part. It was kinda needed, because it was something different from what John was singing, and John and Paul worked as a team, because as soon as Paul uttered the lyrics "Somebody spoke and I went into a dream," John chimes in with that "ahhhh" part. If Paul didn't do that, it wouldn't have the same effect.
The argument can be played two ways.
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[quote by=The_Word link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=57 date=1091737210]Meh. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Just because its chorus is a bit simple doesn't necessarily mean it's filler. The verses and harmonies, IMO, make the song much more than just "filler."[/quote]
Yes, there's more to the song than just the lyrics :)
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OK Frighty: it really boils down to this. You're more impressed with Paul than I am. Finis!
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Before Frightwolf asked "what exactly is filler?" I was going to ask the same thing.
To me, "filler" is a song that's simply not good. It's just lying
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1. Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite
2. She's leaving home
3. Lucy in the sky with diamonds
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=61 date=1091744355]OK Frighty: it really boils down to this. You're more impressed with Paul than I am. Finis![/quote]
I'd like to know if you actually read all my arguments before you stopped, since I took the time to read everything you had to say.
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[quote by=Joe_Karlosi link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=62 date=1091745686]Before Frightwolf asked "what exactly is filler?" I was going to ask the same thing.
To me, "filler" is a song that's simply not good. It's just lying
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Wow, Frightwolf... nice argument on that previous page. I didn't want to get into an argument about the entire album (just "Getting Better" since it's one of my favorite songs off the album and I felt I should stick up for it...), but I completely agree with everything you said. Well put, especially on how the Beatles worked as a team--it wasn't just John and Paul on their own, "saving" each others' songs.
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Filler? What is "filler"? It's one of those terms that everyone "knows" the meaning of, but is hard to apply in some situations. English abounds with terms like that: young, bald, intelligent -- you get the idea.
The trouble in this thread is that one person's filler is another's well-liked song. And -- people forget that all this is opinion. Adding "in my opinion", "imo" and the like is infrequent. Rightly so, as it gets boring and makes the writer look like a frightened rabbit. We all know it's opinion!
PEPPER is often classed as "over-rated" -- and in one way it is. A majority of songs are simply not top Beatle product. They are certainly well played: the musical effects on Pepper give the songs an aura and feel that is amazing. But look behind that: how good are the songs as songs? My call is that Getting Better, Leaving Home, 64, Rita are not that great.
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[quote by=The_Word link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=66 date=1091812122]Well put, especially on how the Beatles worked as a team--it wasn't just John and Paul on their own, "saving" each others' songs.[/quote]
One of the ways they worked as a team was by "saving" each others' songs. Two examples:
Paul suggesting to John how best to sing Lucy, when it wasn't gelling at all. Briliant Paul!
John adding "it can't get no worse" to Paul's "getting betters" in GB's chorus. John puts the sharp edge on!
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[quote by=The_Word link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=66 date=1091812122]Wow, Frightwolf... nice argument on that previous page. I didn't want to get into an argument about the entire album (just "Getting Better" since it's one of my favorite songs off the album and I felt I should stick up for it...), but I completely agree with everything you said. Well put, especially on how the Beatles worked as a team--it wasn't just John and Paul on their own, "saving" each others' songs.[/quote]
Thank you :)
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=68 date=1091828439]
One of the ways they worked as a team was by "saving" each others' songs. Two examples:
Paul suggesting to John how best to sing Lucy, when it wasn't gelling at all. Briliant Paul!
John adding "it can't get no worse" to Paul's "getting betters" in GB's chorus. John puts the sharp edge on![/quote]
You could CALL teamwork saving each other, but the rest of us call it HELPING ONE ANOTHER.
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Filler? What is "filler"? It's one of those terms that everyone "knows" the meaning of, but is hard to apply in some situations. English abounds with terms like that: young, bald, intelligent -- you get the idea.
You are absolutely right, Maria.
The trouble in this thread is that one person's filler is another's well-liked song. And -- people forget that all this is opinion. Adding "in my opinion", "imo" and the like is infrequent. Rightly so, as it gets boring and makes the writer look like a frightened rabbit. We all know it's opinion!
Actually -- not all of us know that this is opinion, so we save other people time by saying "IMO" before the "Just because you say so, it doesn't mean it's true" remark comes in.
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If I may refer to this statement made by Maria:
If you think those three songs are three of the stronger songs on Pepper, then I think you miss the point of Beatle music.
I guess she's the only one that understands anything about the Beatles. Everyone else who's responded to her knows nothing :-/
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^ Yeah... you know, it's funny Maria brings up that this is all opinion we're discussing when her posts certainly don't seem that way. Personally, I've always felt that one "point" of Beatle music is that there's something for everyone--I mean, look at all of us. After browsing all these "favorite" threads, you get the feeling that we all have very different tastes in music, and yet we all have the same favorite band. We can't help our tastes in music, and it seems like Maria is insulting some of us for it.
And Frightwolf, you took the words right out of my mouth that "saving" is also known as "helping one another." :P
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[quote by=The_Word link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=73 date=1091895461]^ Yeah... you know, it's funny Maria brings up that this is all opinion we're discussing when her posts certainly don't seem that way. Personally, I've always felt that one "point" of Beatle music is that there's something for everyone--I mean, look at all of us. After browsing all these "favorite" threads, you get the feeling that we all have very different tastes in music, and yet we all have the same favorite band. We can't help our tastes in music, and it seems like Maria is insulting some of us for it.
And Frightwolf, you took the words right out of my mouth that "saving" is also known as "helping one another." :P[/quote]
Indeed! The genres that the Beatles music cover is amazing! That's why it's odd when I hear kids my age saying that they dislike the Beatles because the music is old... the music has aged well and they did NOT cover only rockers (my guess is that they hear She Loves You and I Wanna Hold Your Hand and tune out).
Personally, I'm glad Maria knows so much about them, but she sure has odd ways of displaying it.
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I mean, lets not all get personal on this forum.
Maria shows strong opinions and often bites at peoples remarks, which can be annoying, yet mis-interpreted.
I feel the odd remark against myself was sometimes hollow in quality, but this is a personal forum.
Lets just be adult, and talk with a mature and friendly manner/tone.
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I was going to respond to all this but I decided to say just one thing. Adding "IMO" and the like IS tedious. If anyone thinks I'm trying to pass my opinions off as facts, then they're wrong.
But it's all right to be forceful ... so long as you can back it up.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=71 date=1091893924]
Are you sure you don't mean "How good are the songs lyrically?" Because that's the idea everyone debating with you is getting.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=77 date=1091914911]
No - a song is its lyrics + tune. All the rest you're talking about (musical effects, style of singing etc) are an artist's interpretation of the song. On Pepper, the musical effects etc are very strong and sometimes hide a song's real character.
And yes - that's my opinion. It's also an opinion shared by many Beatle fans. Not that that makes me correct: but it certainly shows that it's not an eccentric opinion.[/quote]
An artist's interpretation of the song... it's an artist's right to interpret their song in their own way, isn't it? Adding musical effects is a way to provide their songs with character. Your argument isn't making much sense -- a song is EVERYTHING that composes it. Why on Earth would it be just lyrics + tune?
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=76 date=1091914529]I was going to respond to all this but I decided to say just one thing. Adding "IMO" and the like IS tedious. If anyone thinks I'm trying to pass my opinions off as facts, then they're wrong.
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I don't see what's so tedious about using up a second of my life spelling out IMO.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=78 date=1091940733]
An artist's interpretation of the song... it's an artist's right to interpret their song in their own way, isn't it? Adding musical effects is a way to provide their songs with character.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=79 date=1091940813]
I don't see what's so tedious about using up a second of my life spelling out IMO.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=80 date=1091942006]
Let's see ... I see the song as different from its interpretation (the writer's or anyone's). So do you from your statement "it's an artist's right to interpret their song in their own way".
So you don't believe a song is EVERYTHING that comprises it at all! My argument makes sense all right: you can't see it, is all![/quote]
...I'd like to speak on behalf of all the people who possibly read this -- wtf are you talking about? Do you, like, make stuff up on the go or churn it out into a toilet?
I don't see how this equation...
"An artist has the right to interpret their song in their own way = Songs are lyrics + tunes"
...makes any sense at all. Maybe you can enlighten all the people you have just alienated/confused.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=81 date=1091942271]
Are you trying to be foolish? One doesn't type IMO every time, because most people already KNOW it's opinion!! And if you look carefully, most people don't bother with imo very much (you yourself don't).
The second part is very interesting coming from someone who was threatened with expulsion from this board because of his attitude!! Some of us have noticed the good-boy act, and find it ... unconvincing and immature![/quote]
You have just proved my point -- you, once again, have avoided the arrogance remark.
And if cussing = arrogance, than Kerry is a Republican, Michael Jordan is a woman, Earth is actually a bowl of cereal, the things that fly in the air during the day are penguins, and toys come to life like in Toy Story.
Nobody else has been "fooled" or "unconvinced." I think everyone is smart enough to see a PREVIOUS statement I made on this thread which stated that YOU know how to get under people's skin. Right now I'm perfectly fine. Your logic is that I cuss 24/7. Your logic is flawed. VERY flawed.
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All the signs are there that you are losing your temper.
Look Frighty Bob, some concepts are tough, I know. I won't try anymore, as you are getting frustrated and descending to mere abuse.
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Since you keep digging your own grave, Maria, I'll just enlighten everyone so no one forgets:
You have yet to respond to my arrogance remark or my reply to your opinion on all the Beatles song.
You keep running away and trying to turn this into a conversation about me cussing, and you're failing miserably. People are seeing through your bull and seeing how you have way too much bite and are very insulting (Janice, Indica, and even Rowdy in that Lennon thread have all seen it). You can't fool anyone -- respond to the points and maybe I'll stop being aggressive. Until then, you're doing a horrible job debating and a p*ss-poor job convincing anyone of anything on this thread.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=84 date=1091943352]All the signs are there that you are losing your temper.
Look Frighty Bob, some concepts are tough, I know. I won't try anymore, as you are getting frustrated and descending to mere abuse.[/quote]
It is time to remind everyone again:
You have yet to respond to anything about ANYTHING. You have avoided remarks about you being insulting and degrading, and you haven't done a good job convincing anyone that Paul's songs are filler. If anything, you've only showed people that you are extremely biased toward John.
You are trying to avoid everyone's points against you, and you, once again, are failing. Respond to my points and maybe I'll be less aggressive -- you know too little about me to say that I'm losing my temper. The cussing is still at a bare minimal, and I think you're making everyone here a bit tense.
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This is so no one forgets what this debate is about. This is one of my previous replies:
"...I'd like to speak on behalf of all the people who possibly read this -- wtf are you talking about? Do you, like, make stuff up on the go or churn it out into a toilet?
I don't see how this equation...
"An artist has the right to interpret their song in their own way = Songs are lyrics + tunes"
...makes any sense at all. Maybe you can enlighten all the people you have just alienated/confused."
Now try responding to that and see how you do.
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I also find it VERY ironic that Maria talks about abuse when she's telling EVERYONE that is disagreeing with her that they do not know what Beatles music is about, and that she'll use less complex sentences with me.
Someone here named Maria is a hypocrite ::)
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Frighty, never buy a gun!
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Oh, by the way, there's a pm for you. It might give you food for thought!
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I'm going to repeat myself:
You have yet to respond to remarks about you being degrading and insulting, and you have yet to convince anyone that you're just a very biased Lennon fan
Everyone remember this -- Maria has avoided just about every good point every good poster here and me has made.
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I'll also publically display her PM:
"Hey Frighty:
How many aliases do you have around here?"
So now all the people disagreeing with her are me.
Now THAT'S what I call food for thought, and it's for everyone that's disagreeing with Maria (which is the whole board) ;)
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That's a little bit naughty, isn't it? Revealing a PRIVATE message!
No integrity, Frighty Bob!
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I'm going to repeat myself:
You have yet to respond to remarks about you being degrading and insulting, and you have yet to convince anyone that you're just a very biased Lennon fan or someone who doesn't really like Paul.
Everyone remember this -- Maria has avoided just about every good point every good poster here and me has made. She has twisted my words around and probably others. And, as of tonight, has yet to make sense in anything she says.
I'll also publically display her PM that she gave to me:
"Hey Frighty:
How many aliases do you have around here?"
So now all the people disagreeing with her are me.
Now THAT'S what I call food for thought, and it's for everyone that's disagreeing with Maria (which is the whole board)
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=94 date=1091944302]
Everyone remember this -- Maria has avoided just about every good point every good poster here and me has made.[/quote]
I love the distinction you make between "every good poster here" and yourself. **Chuckle**.
BTW, when I asked about aliases, I didn't mean you were everybody that was disagreeing with me. It's just that you have used one alias here in the past, haven't you? I saw this when you made a little slip when you were ranting in a bad temper!
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=95 date=1091944594]
I love the distinction you make between "every good poster here" and yourself. **Chuckle**.[/quote]
I guess I'll quote you and change around a name:
"Look Maria, some concepts are tough, I know. I won't try anymore, as you are getting frustrated and descending to mere abuse."
There ya go :). Food for thought.
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BTW, LetItBe was my alias, and that was at the old board before it was moved to this site. It wasn't even a slip, but I'm sure you'd love to twist my words around.
I can also see that you're trying to get me to rant again but, unfortunately, it's just not gonna work. Once I saw how arrogant you were to everyone else on the board, I've pretty much seen what you're all about. Try actually responding to our points for once.
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I thought you were going to repeat yourself! That stopped when I pointed out your error.
And now instead you quote me, and change around a name! You flatterer you!
You had better reply wittily (as if!), as I have to go soon.
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Maria has yet to prove what "error" I made. And this isn't about posting wittily -- it's about making a point. And it seems like Janice and Indica are on my side on this one. Joe has my side on the filler issue. Who has yours? You're resorted to gibes again. Has Maria run out of material and now has to convert to being immaturish? Tsk tsk.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=97 date=1091944840] BTW, LetItBe was my alias, and that was at the old board before it was moved to this site.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=100 date=1091945137]
Old board? What's that? Sorry, you've lost me.
I don't respond to your Beatle points any more, as you cannot follow them. Maybe that's my fault, maybe not. Maybe even your fault! Heh heh. You did think POB was garbage!
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I've lost you? That was too easy.
How have I not followed your Beatles points? It seems that the points I'm making are the same as everyone else's. You're very immature for your age, and it shows amazingly. You STILL haven't even responded to my arrogance remark or even Janice's remark about you being insulting. Tsk Tsk Tsk... someone named Maria REALLY hates being incorrect.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=99 date=1091945046]Maria has yet to prove what "error" I made.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=102 date=1091945285]
It doesn't matter who's "on my side" or your side. It's all ... dare I say ... opinion!
You talk like a child referring to school playground gangs.[/quote]
It's pretty ironic that you talk about acting like a child and opinions when:
1) You're insulting with the opinions you make.
2) You hate being wrong and avoid all good points made against you. And believe me, there's hundreds.
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This is all very interesting for us Frighty. But I do have to go. See ya round!
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Maria's post that I just responded to, btw, was a case in point example of how she only responded to one point made in the thread. The part about resorting to gibes (which she has evidently done) is a point that she so conveniently skipped.
Trust me, I really don't even feel like cussing when I've just about figured you out. You're arrogant, you're insulting with your opinions, and you think your knowledge is superior -- "If you think these three tracks are strong, then you really don't know about Beatles Music."
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=104 date=1091945441]This is all very interesting for us Frighty. But I do have to go. See ya round![/quote]
Knowing someone like you, you'll probably read this post anyway just to see what was written. If you chance "us" to "me," you've hit the nail on the head. No one else cares -- they're probably waiting for you to actually make a point and stop being such a baby.
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GETTING BETTER IS NOT FILLER!!!!!!!
Brilliant lyrics,beautiful harmonies,even if it was filler,it's THE GREATEST FILLER EVER MADE! :P
Man,I think you actually ticked me off there for a second. ;)
P.S. Filler is a song,IMHO,that had little effort put into it and is album stuffing. Yeah,that's why you shouldn't call Getting Better such names. :D
The other night I was talking to my Mom about the lyrics of Birthday and how overly simple they are,and,for laughs,here's a story I made up.
John:I'm bored,and tired. Where are all the producers?
Paul:We're early,they're not.
John:Well...*starts falling asleep as does George*....*snores*....
Ringo:*raps them both over the head with his drumsticks* Wake up!
John and George:EEEEOOOWWWZZZA,that hurt! >:(
Yoko:Well boys,do you want some tea?
Paul:No.
John:Ignore him,he's annoyed. This stuff'll wake us up for sure!
George:Really?
Ringo:Cool.
Paul: ::)
George:Put a sock in it.
*16 cups of tea for George later*
George:Whee,whoopeee,what's in this stuff?
Yoko:It's imported from Japan!
George:Rrreally?!!!?
George:Hey I just *twitches* figured out this new riff,wanna hear it?
John,Ringo,Paul:No,not really.
George:Tttt *twitches* tttooo badd. *plays birthday riff at super high-speed*
John:Cool.
Paul:Let's write a song while we're waiting!
John:O.K. it's...ssssomebody's birthday,let's write about that!
Paul:Right so...."You say it's your birthday!"
John:Yeah,that's a good lyric.
Paul:"It's my birthday too,yeah!"
John:Go on.
*Much later*
Paul:Hey John,when's that party later?
John:Hey,we can use that!
Ringo:Right on.
Paul:Now what do you do at a party?
John:Drink?
Paul:No...
George:Drink some more of this fab tea?
Everyone but George:NO!!!!
Paul:You dance,fools.
John:Oh.
*Later*
John:So this our new single?
Paul:Yup.
George Martin:Hey,how are you all?
Everyone:Good....You're 5 hours late.
GM:So?
John:Well we wrote a new song.
George *twitches*
GM:Uh...huh...
*Plays song*
GM:Man,that really sucks. However,with my amazing production skills,we have a new single here,methinks.
Paul:Let me guess,an orchestra?
GM:Sure,why not?
Yoko:I know,why don't I scream and fart into a microphone for an hour?
John:That's a great idea,hon.
Yoko:Shut up.
John:Yes,dear.
George:Ho*twitch*w about*twitch* my coo*twitch*ool new guitar *twitch* riff *twitch*?
John:I think he said something about a hamburger.
Everyone:Sounds great.
And that's how Birthday was...well...birthed.
I hope you liked my story! :-/
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[quote by=Strawberryfields67 link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=107 date=1091946709]GETTING BETTER IS NOT FILLER!!!!!!!
Brilliant lyrics,beautiful harmonies,even if it was filler,it's THE GREATEST FILLER EVER MADE!
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sgt peppers: + ( reprise )
a day in a life:
getting better:
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I agree that it is not (what I would call) filler either, even tho I do see (I think) where Maria is coming from...
Given her criteria the song is not lyrically saying much nor conveying any great emotions or human secrets in it's lack of lyricism. We probably were so spoiled by the prior Beatle efforts we came to expect each song to be perfect.
It's a good story song, one many folks can identify with and it is Paul's basic optimism coming thru. So what the heck.
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[quote by=misterchaz link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=110 date=1091983612]I agree that it is not (what I would call) filler either, even tho I do see (I think) where Maria is coming from...
Given her criteria the song is not lyrically saying much nor conveying any great emotions or human secrets in it's lack of lyricism.
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^Right! Same with a lot of songs. "She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah" is not exactly deep words of wisdom but it's certainly not filler now is it?
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[quote by=Mairi link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=112 date=1092016608]^Right! Same with a lot of songs. "She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah" is not exactly deep words of wisdom but it's certainly not filler now is it?[/quote]
Damn straight! ;D
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Well, I was gonna post my three favorites, but I'm not in the mood to be judged.
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[quote by=Maccalvr link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=114 date=1092061527]Well, I was gonna post my three favorites, but I'm not in the mood to be judged. [/quote]
LoL, no one's gonna judge ya. Not now, anyway, since I haven't seen Maria roaming around ;)
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It's Getting Better is an awesome song. Certainly got me feeling good on many occasions.
Top 3?
DOn't like to pick but here goes.
It's Getting Better, A Day In The Life, She's Leaving Home.
As always, it changes all the time.
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Shame Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane are'nt on there like they were supposed to be.
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I think its better that Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields are not on Peppers.
I see them as individual and earlier than peppers, a Singular landmark in the Beatles history.
Plus, its that value for money tag, getting all new songs, instead of slapping 2 singles on.
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[quote by=An_Apple_Beatle link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=116 date=1092069205]It's Getting Better is an awesome song. Certainly got me feeling good on many occasions.
Top 3?
DOn't like to pick but here goes.
It's Getting Better, A Day In The Life, She's Leaving Home.
As always, it changes all the time. [/quote]
You think Getting Better and She's Leaving Home are strong too? Guess you don't know what you're talking about cuz Maria said so ::)
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[quote by=Maccalvr link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=114 date=1092061527]Well, I was gonna post my three favorites, but I'm not in the mood to be judged. [/quote]
If you post on a public forum, people will disagree. If you can't handle that, you shouldn't be here.
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[quote by=IndicaWalrus link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=118 date=1092077402]I think its better that Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields are not on Peppers.
I see them as individual and earlier than peppers, a Singular landmark in the Beatles history.
Plus, its that value for money tag, getting all new songs, instead of slapping 2 singles on.[/quote]
SFF and PL are from the same sessions, which started in late 1966.
When people (such as George Martin) say that Pepper would have been improved by including them, they mean they also shouldn't have been released as a single.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=115 date=1092064611]
LoL, no one's gonna judge ya.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=120 date=1092082118]
If you post on a public forum, people will disagree. If you can't handle that, you shouldn't be here.[/quote]
Don't worry Maria, I can 'handle' it. Maybe I should have specified that I was being sarcastic in response to how ridiculous this thread has become.
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I was going to respond to all this but I decided to say just one thing. Adding "IMO" and the like IS tedious. If anyone thinks I'm trying to pass my opinions off as facts, then they're wrong.
And yes - that's my opinion. It's also an opinion shared by many Beatle fans. Not that that makes me correct: but it certainly shows that it's not an eccentric opinion.
Wow, this stuff sounds like I'm hearing myself. Never thought I'd hear the female with the same lines of reasoning with me on so many things. Maria, if I wasn't already married (you are female, aren't you? ;D ) would you marry me?
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Also -- how come I try to use the forum and every now and then it comes up "Banned User" when I post?
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Oh yes, they're "gonna judge ya". Like I said above, it's a public forum. You give your opinion, I give mine, everyone talks about them, judging, criticizing, evaluating, assessing ....
Surely you don't want a board where people just give their "faves", post polls, but never talk about their choices!
Sheer poetry, I tell ya! :)
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Joe! Good to see you back!
I was quite afraid you'd been run off by contrary opinion...but then I thought that surely wasn't something that you'd do.
Hope you had a nice weekend.
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Oh no, Sir - the last thing that would ever make me run would be contrary opinion! :)
Truth is, I was having some trouble posting recently. Even today, sometimes it says "Banned user", sometimes not.
Also, I'm such a movie freak that I spend most of my internet time at various Movie Forums.
The weekend was good, indeed! :)
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=122 date=1092082701]
Oh yes, they're "gonna judge ya". Like I said above, it's a public forum. You give your opinion, I give mine, everyone talks about them, judging, criticizing, evaluating, assessing ....
Surely you don't want a board where people just give their "faves", post polls, but never talk about their choices! Doesn't sound like you, Fright "POB is garbage" Wolf.[/quote]
You really have a hard time understanding what anyone says.
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Since we're here, let's enlighten people on a much less insulting way of replying to people, or "judging" them as she likes to call it:
The Maria way: "You think these are the three strongest tracks? You don't understand Beatle music."
"Lemme use less complex sentences since I confused you!"
The better way: "I don't agree. *list reasons here*"
That's not so hard, is it, Maria? May take you a while to grasp, but try to get onto it, hun.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=130 date=1092099317]Since we're here, let's enlighten people on a much less insulting way of replying to people, or "judging" them as she likes to call it:
The Maria way: "You think these are the three strongest tracks? You don't understand Beatle music."
"Lemme use less complex sentences since I confused you!"
The better way: "I don't agree. *list reasons here*"
That's not so hard, is it, Maria? May take you a while to grasp, but try to get onto it, hun.[/quote]
By the same token, let's try to substitute remarks about people rotting with something a tad more constructive, hm?
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[quote by=Joe_Karlosi link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=124 date=1092083492]
Wow, this stuff sounds like I'm hearing myself. Never thought I'd hear the female with the same lines of reasoning with me on so many things. Maria, if I wasn't already married (you are female, aren't you? ;D )
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=129 date=1092098930]
Luckily, in 50 years I'll be alive and you'll be rotting.
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Really, Frighty -- I've been reading several pages that I've missed here, and all it is revolves around you trying to make Maria see the "error of her ways". This whole thread has turned to garbage. How about getting back to the PEPPER discussion instead of your constantly trying to force Maria to "answer your questions" and "admit this or that".......?
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[quote by=Joe_Karlosi link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=134 date=1092131231]Really, Frighty -- I've been reading several pages that I've missed here, and all it is revolves around you trying to make Maria see the "error of her ways". This whole thread has turned to garbage. How about getting back to the PEPPER discussion instead of your constantly trying to force Maria to "answer your questions" and "admit this or that".......?[/quote]
I've read the thread too, and neither side has been real subtle towards each other. Its not like this is the first time either. Seems like the same thing again,,,Maria and Joe vrs. Frightwolf. The first shot was taken by Maria on page 4 with this comment-
OK, don't be frightened. I'll go through it for you one more time, using less complex sentences.
You may want to reread the post Joe as I felt that it was unprovoked. This set the ball rolling though.
I personally enjoy Maria's opinion and willingness to debate, but she comes on a bit strong at times for some people. Me,,,,Maria and I have had our share of tussels and we pretty much understand each other now. She's a lyrics person while i'm more partial to the music itself.
Now you Joe,,,,,i'm not getting yet. I truly think that you have some kind of inner hate for Paul because he snubbed you. Is that it? Could that be a reason why your so quick to jump to Maria's side?
I'm not trying to start a feud or anything, its just that your a regular poster around here and for some reason, I just havent been able to agree with hardly anything you've had to say so far. I know you could care less, but i'm just curious.
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[quote by=Joe_Karlosi link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=134 date=1092131231]Really, Frighty -- I've been reading several pages that I've missed here, and all it is revolves around you trying to make Maria see the "error of her ways". This whole thread has turned to garbage. How about getting back to the PEPPER discussion instead of your constantly trying to force Maria to "answer your questions" and "admit this or that".......?[/quote]
I guessed you missed Maria's opening remarks in the discussion. I'll copy/paste for ya.
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I've read the thread too, and neither side has been real subtle towards each other. Its not like this is the first time either. Seems like the same thing again,,,Maria and Joe vrs. Frightwolf. The first shot was taken by Maria on page 4 with this comment-
OK, don't be frightened. I'll go through it for you one more time, using less complex sentences.
You may want to reread the post Joe as I felt that it was unprovoked. This set the ball rolling though.
That's what I was gonna show to Joe.
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[quote by=misterchaz link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=131 date=1092099634]
By the same token, let's try to substitute remarks about people rotting with something a tad more constructive, hm?
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I wish I could, but Maria took the first shot, and I see no reason to stop if no one else has the guts or nerve to directly tell Maria to stop.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=139 date=1092156084]
I wish I could,
***No you don't. You feel you were singled out by an adult for being young and your resentment is -way- overboard to the offense. Your constant death and dismemberment wishes on her show a VERY immature reaction to what is essentially only pushy and rude behaviour on her part. You wish death on ALL your 'enemies'?
but Maria took the first shot, and I see no reason to stop if no one else has the guts or nerve to directly tell Maria to stop.
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***No you don't.
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I haven't got much time, but I feel the need to post this...
I do think that Frightwolf has overreacted a little bit, but I would still take his side if we are taking sides. I haven't posted that much, but I've read a few discussions where Maria has acted like she is the only all-knowing Beatle fan, and that's why my first post against her opinion was as polite as possible--I didn't want her to go off on me.
So in a nutshell:
Frightwolf--you have a point, but cool it a little bit. :)
Maria--adding "IMHO" or "IMO" does make a difference, and it doesn't take that much time. It makes you come off as a more polite person. I love debates but not arguments.
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This thread has become really stupid. I mean who gives a flying hootie whether or not I like Getting Better? I mean,it's O.K. to say,"Ooh yeah that's a good one",but when you start saying,"U ThInK GeeTting Bteer Is GUd? eeEeWwWwww..." or something of that nature,it just gets annoying.
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I've read the thread too, and neither side has been real subtle towards each other. Its not like this is the first time either. Seems like the same thing again,,,Maria and Joe vrs. Frightwolf.
Give me a break. The only other thread I recall going against Frighty in is the PLASTIC ONO BAND one.
I personally enjoy Maria's opinion and willingness to debate, but she comes on a bit strong at times for some people.
So do I. So that's what I like about Maria (though we're bound to get into a battle of our own one day).
Now you Joe,,,,,i'm not getting yet. I truly think that you have some kind of inner hate for Paul because he snubbed you. Is that it? Could that be a reason why your so quick to jump to Maria's side?
You don't know what you're talking about. For one thing, Maria speaks her mind well and doesn't just post "polls". That's the main thing I like about her so far. However, she's talked against Yoko, so ...ummm..... how does that fit your criteria that I side with Maria because she slams Paul, when it's clear she also slams John's woman?
I have no hate for Paul, neither before he snubbed me nor after. Though I think what he did was wrong. But it amazes me how people like you love to ignore facts that may disprove your warped case. I've said time and time again that I love all the Beatles, but John's my favorite. I'VE ALSO SAID I WOULD DECLARE PAUL THE BEST SONGWRITER OF THE 20th CENTURY - EVEN OVER JOHN! Is that clear enough for you?
Now, I do think Paul is kinda sappy. I don't think he's as honest and up front as John, nor as deep (kind of like me and Maria in our posts). Nor is Paul very cutting edge or daring (except for McCARTNEY 2 - and you hate the record). He's more of a PR guy playing a role, while John was real.
I'm not trying to start a feud or anything, its just that your a regular poster around here and for some reason, I just havent been able to agree with hardly anything you've had to say so far. I know you could care less, but i'm just curious.
I hate when people abuse that phrase - it's supposed to be "I couldn't care less," (how's that for being like Maria? How'd you like that one, Maria? :) ) and you're right - I couldn't. I haven't agreed with you much either, so there you are.
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I guessed you missed Maria's opening remarks in the discussion.
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I'm done bothering with you.
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Why can't we all jut get along?
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I'm not trying to take sides even if it seems that way. First, I want to apologize to Joe for my remarks last night. I wasnt in my right mind and I realize I came across in a bad way. Also, thanks for the English lesson. I'll try to keep that in mind in the future,,,,,,,well probably not.
My biggest dig here is that everybody is jumping on Frightwolf and he didnt even start the argument. Yes, Frightwolf does go over the top when the arguing takes place, but if he wasnt pushed into that corner in the first place, maybe he wouldnt do so.
Lets all try to remember that we're here to talk about a band and a few individuals. Its all going to be opinions backed up by facts that none of us can even prove anyways. I promise that i'll try to be more open minded in the future.
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joes getting kinda full of himself it seems to me as just an observer
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yeah sounds like he needs to trip outside the sandbox more.........
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Seems there's more than just a few of us who are full of themselves.
And sadly enough, I am the only one who has any justification to be.
;-D
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[quote by=misterchaz link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=151 date=1092199552]
And sadly enough, I am the only one who has any justification to be.
;-D[/quote]
Charlies using his senior status again. Damn gold card carriers. ;)
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[quote by=tkitna link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=152 date=1092200297]
Charlies using his senior status again. Damn gold card carriers.
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First, I want to apologize to Joe for my remarks last night. I wasnt in my right mind and I realize I came across in a bad way. Also, thanks for the English lesson. I'll try to keep that in mind in the future,,,,,,,well probably not.
First you apologize, but then you get sarcastic about it? I think you should try to learn better English if someone points something out. Why continue to say "I could care less" when it means the opposite of what you're really trying to say?
Just to show you I'm not merely acting like I'm above you here, only yesterday I was corrected myself, and I said "thanks" to the person and learned something. I was at a movie review forum and kept writing that people expect movies to constantly provide "logistics" (I was talking about films being logical).
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joes getting kinda full of himself it seems to me as just an observer
Why, thank you. I'll take that as a compliment :)
In the meantime, your "English" is usually the most atrocious of all....
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Ok Joe, I give up. Nobody cares about your english lesson. I wasnt being sarcastic towards you. I was merely stating that I realize i'm not a perfect typer or speaker and that I would be making many more mistakes down the road, so why bother. Just because you, and a select few others, speak and type like a yuppie with a sweater tied around their neck doesnt mean that the rest of us give a sh!t. We dont. Theres not one single member on this board that has a problem so bad that they are not understandable. Your acting as if you were the kid that got beat up all the time in school and now you have something to prove. Get a life. You truly are one of Gods mulligans.
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[quote by=Joe_Karlosi link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=154 date=1092220351]
First you apologize, but then you get sarcastic about it? [/quote]
I do not feel that was sarcasm at all but simply a self-deprecating joke, one I found amusing.
When someone apologizes it's customary to accept it with some measure of grace.
People here are all acting a bit wingy lately...is it a full moon already?
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pot calling the kettle black^
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I'm not trying to take sides even if it seems that way. First, I want to apologize to Joe for my remarks last night. I wasnt in my right mind and I realize I came across in a bad way. Also, thanks for the English lesson. I'll try to keep that in mind in the future,,,,,,,well probably not.
My biggest dig here is that everybody is jumping on Frightwolf and he didnt even start the argument. Yes, Frightwolf does go over the top when the arguing takes place, but if he wasnt pushed into that corner in the first place, maybe he wouldnt do so.
Thank you.
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[quote by=misterchaz link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=157 date=1092234371]
I do not feel that was sarcasm at all but simply a self-deprecating joke, one I found amusing.
When someone apologizes it's customary to accept it with some measure of grace.
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Thanks Chuck. I thought it was evident, but I wont make that mistake with Joe a second time.
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[quote by=misterchaz link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=146 date=1092172258]I'm done bothering with you.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=161 date=1092253602]
You know, I am pretty sorry about lashing out at you, but I love the big mouth, and I'd rather be heard and told to cool it than not speak my mind at all.
***I don't care about you lashing out at me, it's the fact that you are WRONG.
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And the attitude -- I can try to tune it down, but this is a bad habit of mine that I've had since Elementary, and old habits die hard.
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Mister Charlie, lemme put it to you this way (I'm too lazy to delete my last reply):
You say you'll meet a lot of people as obnoxious as Maria in life. You also said that my lashing out got me very close to being banned. The point is, I may be over-the-top, but in terms of being obnoxious, Maria is definitely over the top. If I can't be tolerated, neither should she, and if people don't constantly point that out as people have with me getting so angry, she'll never get the picture. Ever.
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Wonderful entertainment, Frighty, wonderful.
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I've said my piece. This is betwixt you and Maria. Nothing you have said has made any difference to me and obviously vice versa.
Like Wayne you do some good posting but you're just not worth the aggravation. See ya around sport.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=165 date=1092262893]Wonderful entertainment, Frighty, wonderful.[/quote]
You must be losing some steam -- you're repeating the same thing that you've been saying since POB: "OH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS ENTERTAINING!!!!!!!!"
Get out some more, hun.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=167 date=1092263077]
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And to revert back to a comment you made -- you must really not get out much, hun.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=168 date=1092263619]
It doesn't work to try and turn my barb back on me. It makes you look desperate. But maybe you are.[/quote]
Actually, it does work. It shows that you're contradicting yourself. If using your arguments against you = desperation, then you must not be too bright either. Tsk tsk, hun.
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Frighty is editing his posts. That's why my last post contains stuff you can't see. His full post, before editing, was as below (if anyone cares!)
It's amazing how much this woman gets away with. As if you're unaware that a lot of people don't like how obnoxious you are.
I don't mind wishing death upon others either -- some people really do deserve it.
And to revert back to a comment you made -- you must really not get out much, hun. To be humored this much by this is pretty pathetic.
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[quote by=Frightwolf link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=169 date=1092263692]
Actually, it does work.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=170 date=1092263748]Frighty is editing his posts. That's why my last post contains stuff you can't see. His full post, before editing, was as below (if anyone cares!)
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LoL. Would you rather I come in full force again?
Such an obnoxious old lady, you are. You still can't even cede that you were the instigator and were immature. What folly.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=171 date=1092263812]
Huh? You're losing it again![/quote]
LoL! You're proving my point! All you're doing is provoking me, and people are catching on to boot.
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The race is over, Frighty. I am now thoroughly bored with you.
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[quote by=Maria link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=174 date=1092263992]The race is over, Frighty. I am now thoroughly bored with you.[/quote]
Good :)
Still haven't ceded anything about being the instigator though.
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Although I happen to agree with Frighty, let's please stop the argument. This is starting to sound like my home. And I surf the net to escape...
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[quote by=Mairi link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=176 date=1092264540]Although I happen to agree with Frighty, let's please stop the argument. This is starting to sound like my home. And I surf the net to escape...[/quote]
Sorry to hear :P
Sounds like my home too! Minus the wishing death. ;D
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This is getting retarded! Maria, you know I love ya, but please quit instigating this. Fright, I enjoy your opionions also, but man, you are truly going way overboard. Theres no place or reason for that much hate. I'd hate to see you banned for this nonsense. I feel that you have alot to give to this forum, but I feel that you need to tune it down a notch also. Maria enjoys debate. I enjoy debate. Charlie enjoys debate, but theres a way of doing so without the cruelity. We all need to practice it. I just feel that we need to look at the big picture and calm down.
I'm probably the last person that everybody wants to hear from because I am a nobody on this fantastic board, but lets all try to get along. (except for me and Joe)
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It's not
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7. Being Fotr The Benefit Of Mr. Kite!
11. Good Morning, Good Morning
13. A Day In The Life
Mr. Kite
Reporter: There's some doubt that you can sing.
John: No we need money first.
The Beatles Press Conference At JFK Airport In 1964
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Frighty, I will say this. Maria is always going to revel in the fight, and will always be obnoxious and egg you on. At this point you should realize this and step out. Of course Maria is just as much to blame and responsible. I applaud your ability to stand up for yourself, I just think you go overboard sometimes. And as for Maria, you seem to be provoking fights just for fighting's sake. Your snide remarks (are they attempts to be funny?) reveal an immaturity that i thought you were above.
And why is everyone getting so anal about grammar???
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[quote by=Herecomesyoursun link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=181 date=1092272110]
And why is everyone getting so anal about grammar???
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[quote by=tkitna link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=178 date=1092267001]
I'm probably the last person that everybody wants to hear from because I am a nobody on this fantastic board, but lets all try to get along. (except for me and Joe)
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Whatchoo tawkin about, Willis???!! You are a Somebody! Hel, you wuz here before I was. You're a drummer and you make sense. So no self-denigration!
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Ok Joe, I give up. Nobody cares about your english lesson. I wasnt being sarcastic towards you. I was merely stating that I realize i'm not a perfect typer or speaker and that I would be making many more mistakes down the road, so why bother.
If I misunderstood you, my apologies. I'm sure that as we all know by now, the written word here is hard to distinguish from the spoken one. Sometimes it's unclear how we mean it. But I understand what you meant now. My error.
I also want to remind you of something that everyone conveniently ignored when I responded to you: Namely, that I am not perfect myself and don't claim to be. I gave the example where I used the word "logistics" the incorrect way. I was only bringing that up to show that I make mistakes too, and when someone pointed it out to me I learned from it and didn't blast him for it.
Theres not one single member on this board that has a problem so bad that they are not understandable.
I beg to differ. For the most part, I'd agree -- but there is one (I won't name the person now) whom I have an extremely difficult time understanding (and since I'm imperfect, I may have misused the word "whom" here :) ) . Tough to bash me when I bash myself, isn't it?
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And Joe -- I don't really have a problem with you after we settled things after the POB (you got over my dig with it and seldom mention it anymore). However, I really disagree with you here. You're telling me that it's OK that Maria started it, but I shouldn't have gone over the top. However, why should Maria be free to say whatever she wants and I have to cool it and back off? OK, maybe I should cool it, but damn it, it's as if I have to tone down my attitude but Maria can be as obnoxious as she wants. I'm sorry, but that's not gonna fly with me.
I didn't agree with Maria about her McCartney "filler" choices, so that's another thing I wanted to cover when I was accused of always taking her side earlier and always bashing Paul over John all the time. Paul's songs on PEPPER are great. I do notice Maria's sharp edge and the way she talks to you, and so forth. But I'm just trying to explain to you (as others have done) that what really sticks out like a sore thumb to me in this particular thread -- for ME, at any rate -- is that you keep going on and on and on about it, and making these incredibly long posts, re-re-quoting your points over and over, demanding that people take note and respond. It's THAT which now sort of takes over and goes beyond Maria's barbs, if you see what I mean.
If this doesn't "fly with you," what can I say? It's my opinion, and I couldn't care less. :)
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I'm probably the last person that everybody wants to hear from because I am a nobody on this fantastic board, but lets all try to get along. (except for me and Joe)
I don't think you're a "nobody". I want to hear from you, and everyone else, too.
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It's not ALOT
It's A LOT
Perhaps this common spelling error began because there does exist in English a word spelled
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[quote by=misterchaz link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=183 date=1092285330]
Whatchoo tawkin about, Willis???!!
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[quote by=Herecomesyoursun link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=181 date=1092272110]Frighty, I will say this.
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[quote by=Joe_Karlosi link=Blah.pl?b=albums,m=1081418559,s=185 date=1092305263]
I didn't agree with Maria about her McCartney "filler" choices, so that's another thing I wanted to cover when I was accused of always taking her side earlier and always bashing Paul over John all the time. Paul's songs on PEPPER are great. I do notice Maria's sharp edge and the way she talks to you, and so forth. But I'm just trying to explain to you (as others have done) that what really sticks out like a sore thumb to me in this particular thread -- for ME, at any rate -- is that you keep going on and on and on about it, and making these incredibly long posts, re-re-quoting your points over and over, demanding that people take note and respond. It's THAT which now sort of takes over and goes beyond Maria's barbs, if you see what I mean.
If this doesn't "fly with you," what can I say? It's my opinion, and I couldn't care less.
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A Day In The Life
Getting Better
Lovely Rita
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She's Leaving Home
A Day In The Life
Fixing A Hole
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A Day In The Life
Sgt Pepper (reprise)
Within You Without You (my opinion of this song has altered dramaticly of late)
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A Little Help From My Friends
Fixing A Hole
Sgt. Pepper (reprise)
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1. A Day In The Life
2. With A Little Help From My Friends
3. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)
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Hard to choose only three ... but A Day In The Life, Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds and Getting Better (tho the two first songs are close to the later in my list)
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1. Fixing A Hole
2. Within You Without You
3. A Day In The Life
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1. Fixing A Hole
2. Within You Without You
3. A Day In The Life
Aha! Another vote for Fixing A Hole. Very overlooked song IMHO.
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Aha! Another vote for Fixing A Hole. Very overlooked song IMHO.
Indica seems to like it too :) ...
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Aha! Another vote for Fixing A Hole. Very overlooked song IMHO.
Since I first heard the album in 1967, Fixing A Hole has been my favorite track. It's rather complex in its style. I especially like the harpsichord intro and Paul's bass. Great song!
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Since I first heard the album in 1967, Fixing A Hole has been my favorite track. It's rather complex in its style. I especially like the harpsichord intro and Paul's bass. Great song!
Great song indeed. Probably my favourite Paul song of the period.
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Sgt. Pepper's is often defined as a rock album but there are few rocks in it ... Getting Better is one example of the band making (soft) rock combining handclaps and harmonies like in their early times and albums ...
Getting Better it sounds somewhat as an Abbey Road LP track to me: 'clear' production and spice-alley guitars arrangements and harmonies tho drums are not in the vein of Abbey Road at all ...
P.S. Fixing A Hole's guitar reminds me of some of the Abbey Road LP tracks too ...
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My favorite songs in Sgt. Pepper are
Lovely Rita
When I'm Sixty-Four
She's Leaving Home
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A Day in the Life
Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite
the title track
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"She's Leaving Home" - I just adore that song
"Fixing a Hole"
"A Day in the Life"
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-Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
-Lucy in the sky with diamonds
-A day in the life
-With A Little Help From My Friends (I can't leave Ringo out, just can't)
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[...]
-With A Little Help From My Friends (I can't leave Ringo out, just can't)
You shouldn't!!! This track is one of the funniest ("lend me you ear"LOL) and best known of them ... I think that Joe Cocker's cover is the best cover ever done of one of their songs!!!
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You shouldn't!!! This track is one of the funniest ("lend me you ear"LOL) and best known of them ... I think that Joe Cocker's cover is the best cover ever done of one of their songs!!!
Hahaha yeah!! The track is funny and so Ringo, hehehe. Yeah, I've heard that cover and I certainly agree with you, it's great!!
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Hahaha yeah!! The track is funny and so Ringo, hehehe. Yeah, I've heard that cover and I certainly agree with you, it's great!!
Lyrics are awesome with that "lend me your ears" "what do you see when you turn off thelight" and so ... have you seen this Joe's 1968 TV clip? (I've got another TV performance somewhere ... i'll upload it when I find it)
http://cyberogan.multiply.com/video/item/33 ...
Or this other?
http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=M7bemISOXJw&eurl=http%3A//es.video.yahoo.com/video/play%3Fp%3D%2522joe%2Bcocker%2522%2B%26ei%3DUTF-8%26b%3D40%26oid%3D5df0cb8d24122346%26rurl%3Dw&iurl=http%3A//sjc-static17.sjc.youtube.com/vi/M7bemISOXJw/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKJBMn1ZtYhLnAqlqiX5xGu
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1. A Day In The Life
2. Fixing A Hole
3. Within You Without You
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1. A Day In The Life
2. Fixing A Hole
3. Within You Without You
Very good choice :)
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A Day in the Life
She's Leaving Home
Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite
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A Day In The Life
Being For the Benefit of Mister Kite
Lovely Rita
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1 A Day In The Life
2 Lucy In The Sky With Diamomonds
3 Lovely Rita
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When I'm 64, Day in the life, Lucy in the sky
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Lyrics are awesome with that "lend me your ears" "what do you see when you turn off thelight" and so ... have you seen this Joe's 1968 TV clip? (I've got another TV performance somewhere ... i'll upload it when I find it)
[url]http://cyberogan.multiply.com/video/item/33[/url] ...
Or this other?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=M7bemISOXJw&eurl=http%3A//es.video.yahoo.com/video/play%3Fp%3D%2522joe%2Bcocker%2522%2B%26ei%3DUTF-8%26b%3D40%26oid%3D5df0cb8d24122346%26rurl%3Dw&iurl=http%3A//sjc-static17.sjc.youtube.com/vi/M7bemISOXJw/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKJBMn1ZtYhLnAqlqiX5xGu[/url]
And finalley I've found that 1968 TV performance, Apple Scruff (awesome!) ... so I've uploaded here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/19250247/Joe_Cocker_-_With_A_Little_Help_From_My_Friends__TV__1968_.wmv.html
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1. LSD
2. Within you without you
3. Lovely Rita
why only 3 :(
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1. She's Leaving Home (tears your heart- mine anyway)
2. LSD (the girl with KALEIDOSCOPE EYES- best line 8))
3. A Day in the Life
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For me it's (not in any order by the way):
A Day in the Life,
She's Leaving Home (I agree with Kaleidoscope_Eyes... very sad, especially the bit when the mother finds the letter :'()
With a Little Help From My Friends (such a sweet song ;D)
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With a Little Help From My Friends (such a sweet song ;D)
yeah - I agree - this is really sweet song, and I love Ringos voice on it
and the lyrics is also great !
( now Im thinking why I'm not choose that one in my 3 favourit tracks list ;) )
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1. A Day in the Life
2. Within You Without You
3. Getting Better
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A Day in the Life
Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite
Fixing a Hole
Can anyone think of a way to quickly/easily tally the results? I would think A Day in the Life is most popular. I'd say its one of the greatest songs of all time.
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I would think A Day in the Life is most popular. I'd say its one of the greatest songs of all time.
Couldn't agree more! ;)
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1. A Day In The Life
2. Getting Better
3. With A Little Help From My Friends
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1. A Day In The Life
2. Lovely Rita
3. Good Morning Good Morning
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A Day In The Life
Lovely Rita
When I'm Sixty Four
DaveRam :)
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w292/davedodo/beat_32.jpg)
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1. A Day In The Life
2. She's Leaving Home
3. Lovely Rita
Celebrating 40 years of Sgt Pepper! Yeah!! I'm listening the album right now!!
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Celebrating 40 years of Sgt Pepper! Yeah!! I'm listening the album right now!!
GOOD MAN! YOU ROCK! ;)
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Fave tracks from Sgt. Pepper
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lovely Rita
Fixing a hole
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1. A Day In The Life
2. With A Little Help From My Friends
3. Lucy In The Ski With Diamonds
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Apart from the title track (and return to the title track), if I really had to chose only three :
• A Day in the Life
• She’s Leaving Hone
• Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite
With a Little Help, Getting Better and When I am Sixty Four would be close contenders.
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Lucy, Mr. Kite and Billy Shears
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I'm going to go for a shock tactic and not choose A Day In The Life. :o
Haha. Of COURSE I love the song, but strangely enough, it probably just misses my top three, unfortunately. Monster of a song though.
1. Within You Without You
2. Lovely Rita
3. When I'm Sixty Four
xxx
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1. Lovely Rita [ I jus love the lyrics!]
2.Within and without you [ Not only becaz its one of george's but I love the feel of it]
3. When Im sixty four [very cute song]
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Erm can I do *counts on fingers* top 9?
(in no particular order)
-Sgt Pepper (opener)
-Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
-Fixing A Hole
-She's Leaving Home
-Within You Without You
-When I'm Sixty-Four
-Lovely Rita
-Sgt Pepper (reprise)
-A Day In The Life
Well, it's 3 TIMES 3...
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1. A Day In The Life
2. She's Leaving Home
3. Within You/Without You
4. Lovely Rita
5. Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite!
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Fixing a Hole
Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
Within You Without You
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;yes #1.She's Leaving Home
#2.A Day In The Life
#3.Fixing a Hole ;D
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1.She's Leaving Home
2.Lovely Rita
3.Within You Without You
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Top Three:
1 A Day In The Life
2 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
3 Fixing A Hole
Bottom Three:
3 Good Morning Good Morning
2 She's Leaving Home
1 Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
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- She's Leaving Home
- A Day in the Life
- Lovely Rita
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Top 3:
Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite! ;D
Within You Without You
A Day In The Life
Bottom 3:
Fixing a Hole
She's Leaving Home :(
Getting Better
Just Tired of Listening To:
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds 4ac
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Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Fixing A Hole
When I'm 64
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1. A Day In The Life
2. With A Little Help From My Friends
3. Getting Better
Although I must note the best Sgt. Pepper-era songs are not even on the album - 'Strawberry Fields Forever' and 'Penny Lane'. They beat pretty much anything on that album, even 'A Day In The Life' - but only just barely on that one. This wasn't too hard - I still feel Sgt. Pepper is overrated.
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Top 3:
1. Fixing A Hole
2. Getting Better
3. When I'm 64
Extended top 3:
4. Lovely Rita
5. She's Leaving Home
6. Lucy
And, I could go on... but... I'll be good and will stop there...
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- Top 3:
- She's Leaving Home
- Lovely Rita
- A Day in the Life
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1. Getting Better
2. Within You Without You
3. Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite
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1. Getting Better
2. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
3. Fixing a Hole
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1. Fixing a Hole
2. Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite
3. Getting Better
Hard choices, though! Tomorrow I may have a completely different Top 3 favorites.
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It's interesting that for an album many now decry as lacking good songs there's so many different top 3s.
1 A Day in the Life
2 Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite
3 Good Morning, Good Morning