Topic: Best Drummer (Read 3483 times)

GreenApple · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2006, 09:39:04 PM »

The first concert I ever went to was Hawkwind (!), and Ginger Baker was in the band at the time. He did an amazingly powerful drum solo. I think he needs to be mentioned here.

somedude210 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 07, 2006, 01:07:19 AM »

was it the drummer from Rush that had like the complete drum set that went around him and on his solos he'd like spin and drum on all those that he came across? maybe he too should have an honorable mention.

The End · « **Reply #22 on:** January 07, 2006, 01:42:12 AM »

Clement Burke and Dave Grohl for me.

But Ringo was an absolutely HUGE influence on all drummers who know - you know what I'm talking about, ask TK.

The End · « **Reply #23 on:** January 07, 2006, 02:34:28 AM »

And Keith Moon of course - not a brilliant time-keeper but more than brilliant in EVERY othe aspect of his playing.

tkitna · « **Reply #24 on:** January 10, 2006, 01:51:22 AM »

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or "I Feel Fine", "I Me Mine", "Long Long Long", "Dear Prudence" ...

Tsk, tsk, tsk,,,,you made a boo boo. (i've done it a thousand times myself by accident). We all know that one was Paulie.

adamzero · « **Reply #25 on:** January 10, 2006, 02:39:44 AM »

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And Keith Moon of course - not a brilliant time-keeper but more than brilliant in EVERY othe aspect of his playing.

The Who is an odd band, Entwhistle held down the bottom (with Pete there too) and Moon played like a jazz drummer doing all these amazing fills on and off the beat.  I just heard "Pictures of lily" again after a long time and was amazed at Moon's drummer.

I don't know who the guy is who plays with Prince--big black dude--but he's amazing.  I saw him with Paul Westerberg and watched the drummer half the time.  He was such a presence.

I think that's one aspect of drumming that differs so much between live and recording.  That sense of presence in a live gig is differently in terms of dynamics in the studio.
Ringo was/is a helluva studio drummer (clean, crisp, innovative) and also a helluva live player (if the Beatles recorded shows are any indication).

ringo rules · « **Reply #26 on:** January 10, 2006, 04:22:06 AM »

Ringo would most definitely be the most influential drummer of all time and as everyone knows there would be no beatles without ringo!

tkitna · « **Reply #27 on:** January 11, 2006, 06:48:40 AM »

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I don't know who the guy is who plays with Prince--big black dude--but he's amazing. I saw him with Paul Westerberg and watched the drummer half the time. He was such a presence.

I believe that was John Blackwell (if he's still playing for him) and if so, yes he's incredible.

Frightwolf · « **Reply #28 on:** February 02, 2006, 03:01:02 AM »

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or "I Feel Fine", "I Me Mine", "Long Long Long", "Dear Prudence" ...

Just caught this thread. Paul McCartney played the drums on Dear Prudence.

Sondra · « **Reply #29 on:** February 02, 2006, 04:12:43 AM »

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I want you to try to play 'A Day In The Life', 'I'm Gonna Sit Right Down And Cry (over you)', 'Instant Amnesia', 'Drumming Is My Madness', and 'Strawberry Fields' to just name a few. Simple indeed.

If we were going by this, like if this was a barometer, how easy is it to play Moon's drum parts? Or Bonham's? Is it really hard to emulate them, or is that a myth? Plus, even if you could, wouldn't the fact that they came first also put them on top? I mean, there's a lot of imitators out there, but who did what first. And then there's personality. I mean, nothing to do with drumming, but Ringo and Moon are a bit more fun to watch then your average drummer. Ringo has personality. Moon had personality plus.

tkitna · « **Reply #30 on:** February 03, 2006, 01:38:21 AM »

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If we were going by this, like if this was a barometer, how easy is it to play Moon's drum parts?

Damn near impossible,,,,,,,for me anyways.

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Or Bonham's?

I've had more luck with Bonham than most other drummers, but I cant copy his sound and I try to copy his feel as best as possible, but the important word is,,,,copy! These drummers invented this stuff. I could copy and repaint the Mona Lisa, but does that make my copy better? I think not.

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Is it really hard to emulate them, or is that a myth?

No, this is fact. I've yet to see drummers do it right.

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Plus, even if you could, wouldn't the fact that they came first also put them on top? I mean, there's a lot of imitators out there, but who did what first.

The timelines to vast for me to even get into. I mean, Bonzo's peers were Buddy Rich and Carmen Appice from vanilla Fudge (he really actually copied Carmens style but took it a step further). As for Moonie, that freestyle controlled chaos is just him and i've never heard that style before in the context of an actual band. I'm sure there were some before, but maybe not.

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And then there's personality. I mean, nothing to do with drumming, but Ringo and Moon are a bit more fun to watch then your average drummer. Ringo has personality. Moon had personality plus.

I'd say stage presence is one of the most important things for a musician. How many concerts have you seen where the musicians were awesome, but they were boring as hell to watch? Makes a 'should have been great show' into just an average show. Look at Abe Laborial from Maccas band. I have a hard time watching Paul because Abe steals the show.

***Talking about Moonie and Bonzo makes me give a shout out to Ian Paice from Deep Purple. I think he's as good or better than the two previous mentions.***

Sondra · « **Reply #31 on:** February 03, 2006, 06:24:18 AM »

Better? I really can't comment because I don't listen to a whole lot of Deep Purple. I did see them in the 80's though. Was he the drummer then?

Not to sound stupid or anything, but what makes it hard to play Moon's parts? I have no idea. The speed? Or his technique. When I watch him, his arms and legs seem to be flailing about in all directions. Although he found time to twirl and toss his sticks in the middle of all that.

I think Abe is great. I've learned to appreciate how great he is since I insulted his Super Bowl performance! It was just that it didn't sound like Ringo to me so it annoyed me. I mean, I don't think you should mess with a Beatle song. But that's a different story. Anyway, as good as Abe is, when Paul is on the stage, my eyes don't move from him. No way, no how.

Mean_Mr_Mustard · « **Reply #32 on:** February 03, 2006, 08:34:56 PM »

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If we were going by this, like if this was a barometer, how easy is it to play Moon's drum parts? Or Bonham's? Is it really hard to emulate them, or is that a myth? Plus, even if you could, wouldn't the fact that they came first also put them on top? I mean, there's a lot of imitators out there, but who did what first. And then there's personality. I mean, nothing to do with drumming, but Ringo and Moon are a bit more fun to watch then your average drummer. Ringo has personality. Moon had personality plus.

Exactly, I was just watching anthology 3 dvd, when they had that guy fill in for Ringo in Amsterdam and Hong Kong when he was sick, He played the part but Ringo brings so much personality. I never realized how complicated any Beatles song was on any instrument.

Bobber · « **Reply #33 on:** February 03, 2006, 08:44:34 PM »

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Exactly, I was just watching anthology 3 dvd, when they had that guy fill in for Ringo in Amsterdam and Hong Kong when he was sick,

Sorry to interrupt, but The Beatles never had a gig in Amsterdam. They made a trip through the canals however. They had an afternoon and evening gig in the little village of Blokker. And that is about 10 kms from where I am at this moment. I drive by the venue almost every day.

raxo · « **Reply #34 on:** February 03, 2006, 09:58:30 PM »

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Sorry to interrupt, but The Beatles never had a gig in Amsterdam. They made a trip through the canals however. They had an afternoon and evening gig in the little village of Blokker. And that is about 10 kms from where I am at this moment. I drive by the venue almost every day.

Lucky you! ... Sad that they didn't played in more countries and more times ... Except 4, I think, (UK, US, Germany and Sweden) they only played in other countries just once ... the list is very short ... even here in Europe :-/

Mean_Mr_Mustard · « **Reply #35 on:** February 03, 2006, 10:16:16 PM »

Yeah I met the Netherlands but I said Amsterdam accidently. The city is more famous then the damn country man.

Random Guy: I wanna go to Amsterdam to smoke Pot

Random Guy2: Yeah but France is so far away.

:p

andersonCouncill · « **Reply #36 on:** February 04, 2006, 02:11:35 AM »

Tool's drummer but the name escapes me for some reason.

tkitna · « **Reply #37 on:** February 08, 2006, 02:00:03 AM »

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Tool's drummer but the name escapes me for some reason.

Thats Danny Carey and yes he's incredible.

tkitna · « **Reply #38 on:** February 08, 2006, 03:24:30 AM »

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Better? I really can't comment because I don't listen to a whole lot of Deep Purple. I did see them in the 80's though. Was he the drummer then?

Yeah, Ian's always been the drummer. Sandra, do yourself a favor and listen to some of Deep purples 'Burn' album. Especially listen to the song "Lay Down Stay Down". Incredible.

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Not to sound stupid or anything, but what makes it hard to play Moon's parts? I have no idea. The speed? Or his technique. When I watch him, his arms and legs seem to be flailing about in all directions. Although he found time to twirl and toss his sticks in the middle of all that.

Speed definately and his style is just so awkward. He usually didnt use a hi-hat and did all his playing on a ride and he uses the double bass as a crutch with his fills. This and his knack as to not play the same thing twice is just strange.

Sondra · « **Reply #39 on:** February 08, 2006, 05:59:10 AM »

I have no idea what a ride is. But I know what a hi hat is! I think Moon used to close it so it was only opened a crack. Didn't Ringo do something with the hi hat. Like innovative or different? For some reason I feel like I read something like that. Anyway, I used to listen to a lot of Deep Purple and their off shoot Rainbow, but it's been years. I will definitely give them a listen. I don't know why I never bought a cd of theirs. I had a couple of records in the olden days though.

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