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Other music forums => Various Artists, Lyrics, Discographies => Topic started by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on August 17, 2011, 07:58:08 PM
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Which albums can't you dig despite the fact they're from your favourite artists?
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The Byrds - Sweetheart Of The Rodeo (1968). It's said to be the first Country Rock album, and beyond the fact that I'm not a big fan of the genre, I find this record pretty boring. It doesn't sound like a Byrds album at all, and in fact only McGuinn and Hillman remained at this point from the original line up. I think that other early Country Rock records like The Gilded Palace Of Sin by the Flying Burrito Brothers or Pickin' Up The Pieces by Poco are much better.
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The Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock 'N' Roll (1974). Sure, this may not be the worst album by the Stones, but I would have expected much more considering that it wasn't released much later than their best period. Just a bunch of generic rockers, and the lyrics suck even for the Stones. This record is only Rock 'N' Roll, but I don't like it.
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The Who - It's Hard (1982). Keith Moon was already dead, and the band released Face Dances, a decent album, without him (Kenney Jones was his replacement). However, this next album was easily the worst record by the Who ever, where the band seemed to be out of ideas.
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All Aerosmith albums from their commercial era except for "Pump" (1989) and their last album, the 2004 "Honkin On Bobo".
Permanent Vacation (1987)
Get A Grip (1993)
Nine Lives (1997)
Just Push Play (2001) - this one is my least favourite.
I also think Pink Floyd's "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" is pretty bad, I admit it, I had only listened to it three or four times, but I didn't like it very much. It's not extremly bad though.
I'll think of more later.
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I also think Pink Floyd's "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" is pretty bad, I admit it, I had only listened to it three or four times, but I didn't like it very much. It's not extremly bad though.
I've not even listened to it 3 times. I do like Learning to fly though. I got the c.d out of the library to install on my itunes and eventually just didn't bother keeeping any of it apart from LTF which I just listen to as part of my RandomPF playlist.
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I've not even listened to it 3 times. I do like Learning to fly though. I got the c.d out of the library to install on my itunes and eventually just didn't bother keeeping any of it apart from LTF which I just listen to as part of my RandomPF playlist.
I used to call it A Momentary Lapse Of Talent ha2ha
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'One Sip' is the only decent song on Momentary Lapse.
The Pretty Things' 'Savage Eye' isnt very good. I like some songs on it, but its a weak effort on the whole. They had just gotten signed by Led Zeppelins Swan Songs and it couldnt have been at a worse time. Phil May was strung out and absent for a lot of the studio sessions and live performances. Peter Grant (Zeps manager) tried to promote the Pretty Things as a band that they werent and even had songs written for them and it never panned out (which was par for the course with this band). Even the inside liner had Phil May stating that this album sucked and was not indicative of the band.
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'Power' from Kansas is a weak effort also. Although it marked the return of lead vocalist Steve Walsh, it also was the album that Kerry Livgren left the band to pursue his christian efforts. Steve Morse joined the band in Livegrens place and although he was a major talent in the guitar playing aspect, he didnt lend anything in the way of creative song writing. This led to the band submitting weak tunes like 'All I Wanted' and 'Cant Cry Anymore'. They basically were trying to remake themselves into an 80's artist ala Heart and Def Leppard instead of staying close to the prog roots that got them where they were in the first place.
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A lot of people site Eltons 'A Single Man' as the point where he started to fall since Bernie Taupin left at that point, but I believe it started to happen an album earlier with 'Blue Moves'. I just feel that Elton was burnt out and didnt have a lot left to offer at this stage in his career. In his defense he had been putting out quality albums for years in concession and if anybody deserved a break or was entitled to a drop off, it was John. With 'Blue Moves', the atmosphere of the album is darker and depressed. A lack of energy feeling that just doesnt forgive. Sure it had a hit song with 'Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word', but the rest of the album was uninteresting and bland.
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The Who - It's Hard (1982). Keith Moon was already dead, and the band released Face Dances, a decent album, without him (Kenney Jones was his replacement). However, this next album was easily the worst record by the Who ever, where the band seemed to be out of ideas.
I've never even heard of that before that I can remember. I've not been a hardcore Who fan for 20 yrs. though.
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I've never even heard of that before that I can remember. I've not been a hardcore Who fan for 20 yrs. though.
I know you've heard 'Athena' and 'Eminence Front' and thats the album they came from. I agree with Hombre that it was a stinker for the Who, but I dont mind it really. Says a lot for that band doesnt it.
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I know you've heard 'Athena' and 'Eminence Front' and thats the album they came from. I agree with Hombre that it was a stinker for the Who, but I dont mind it really. Says a lot for that band doesnt it.
How do you know that? ??? But now you mention it I do remember Eminence front from a live album. Awful title for a song. Athena rings a bell too.
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How do you know that?
Sorry, I figured you were old enough to have turned on a radio in the last decade or so and they happen to be two of the Who's most popular songs ever. I wont assume anymore.
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Sorry, I figured you were old enough to have turned on a radio in the last decade or so and they happen to be two of the Who's most popular songs ever. I wont assume anymore.
Never heard them on the radio and i've listened to a fair bit of radio over here although mainly BBC 2 & 6music. I find it hard to belive they're two of the Who's most popular songs ever. Unless yu're being sarcastic.
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Never heard them on the radio and i've listened to a fair bit of radio over here although mainly BBC 2 & 6music. I find it hard to belive they're two of the Who's most popular songs ever. Unless yu're being sarcastic.
Nah, wasnt being sarcastic at all. Maybe they were more popular here in America. They still get plenty of airplay on any classic rock station (especially Eminence Front).
The Who - Athena (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkRx3NZ-qp4#)
The Who - Eminence front (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnHLgxKUsEA#)
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Athena #28 in the US and #40 in the UK
Eminence Front reached #68 on Billboard 100 (whatever that means)
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Sorry, I figured you were old enough to have turned on a radio in the last decade or so and they happen to be two of the Who's most popular songs ever. I wont assume anymore.
I wouldn't say those two songs are among the most popular by the Who, even though they were relatively strong hits. I mean, those songs didn't age very well. They weren't even included in The Very Best Of The Who, which I consider as the most well summarized compilation of the band. But maybe my argument is not very strong since that compilation also didn't include "Behind Blue Eyes" or "Love, Reign O'er Me".
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quite simply every album by America since Dan Peek left.
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I wouldn't say those two songs are among the most popular by the Who, even though they were relatively strong hits. I mean, those songs didn't age very well. They weren't even included in The Very Best Of The Who, which I consider as the most well summarized compilation of the band. But maybe my argument is not very strong since that compilation also didn't include "Behind Blue Eyes" or "Love, Reign O'er Me".
You might be right Hombre. I just know they play the sh*t out of both of those songs in my area still to this day. I did want to touch upon 'The Very Best Of The Who' though. I think thats a compilation that strays all over the place. There's a lot of hits that werent touched upon while you have lesser know songs like 'Let's See Action', 'Boris The Spider' (really?), and 'I'm A Boy'. Boris is well know, but it sucks and only gets a pass due to Entwistle. 'My Wife' would have been a better choice. The Who are like the Beatles and the Stones, in which their catalog is so vast that a greatest hits really cant grab everything. Thats why they have multiples ha2ha. I still think the two songs mentioned before are more popular than a handful on the Very Best, but what do I know?
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You might be right Hombre. I just know they play the sh*t out of both of those songs in my area still to this day. I did want to touch upon 'The Very Best Of The Who' though. I think thats a compilation that strays all over the place. There's a lot of hits that werent touched upon while you have lesser know songs like 'Let's See Action', 'Boris The Spider' (really?), and 'I'm A Boy'. Boris is well know, but it sucks and only gets a pass due to Entwistle. 'My Wife' would have been a better choice. The Who are like the Beatles and the Stones, in which their catalog is so vast that a greatest hits really cant grab everything. Thats why they have multiples ha2ha. I still think the two songs mentioned before are more popular than a handful on the Very Best, but what do I know?
I agree that the Who are up there with the Beatles and the Stones so that it's imposible to summarize their career in one CD. But I think that The Very Best Of The Who is the best compilation because half of the songs were not included in the original albums, it's like their Past Masters. It was the first Who album I got, and having all the other records I still need it. I guess that "Boris The Spider" was selected because at least one song per album must be included. The only studio album that is not represented is It's Hard, and thanks God it isn't! But you may be right about the popularity of those two songs, I just think they don't hold up next to the rest of the catalog of the band, but that doesn't mean they're not popular.
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Love the band, loathe the album:
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Love the band, loathe the album:
I have to admit that i'm not as deep into Jethro Tull as I probably should be. I like just about everything I hear from them, but i've only got 'Stand Up', 'Aqualung', 'Thick As A Brick', and a few Greatest Hits albums. Whats wrong with 'APP' Mr. M? Concept or boring music?
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Division Bell - Pink Floyd It's not like I hate it, but my $15 could have been spent on something a lot better.
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well this is maybe where I make a little admission. how about PPM,WTB,AHDN,FS,H & some of RS. Yeah. I don't really like the early Beatles. I think there's some good songs...great songs and the singing is fantastic esp. from John but let's face it it's music for adolecsents really isn't it? I don''t have any of it on m my itunes and I might get around to adding some by getting the c.d's outta the library but i'm not really bothered.
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Division Bell - Pink Floyd It's not like I hate it, but my $15 could have been spent on something a lot better.
agree emmi ;D
The Division Hell and A Momentary Lapse Of Talent are THE worst Floyd albums, the lads tried their best without the writing talents of Roger waters, they even employed people to 'make it sound like a Floyd album' but the whole concept of the two and the meaningless covers came over as a giant cash in, I went to see PF post waters and I think I counted 6 session musicians on stage with David and Nick, for me that is NOT Pink Floyd. (ie not what it said on the ticket)
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agree emmi ;D
The Division Hell and A Momentary Lapse Of Talent are THE worst Floyd albums, the lads tried their best without the writing talents of Roger waters, they even employed people to 'make it sound like a Floyd album' but the whole concept of the two and the meaningless covers came over as a giant cash in, I went to see PF post waters and I think I counted 6 session musicians on stage with David and Nick, for me that is NOT Pink Floyd. (ie not what it said on the ticket)
Yes, maybe Dave's intentions were good, but why the hell did he kept using the name of Pink Floyd when there were just 2 members left (talking about the Momentary Lapse years). It was really obvious that they were no longer a band anymore, so just get over it. At least, that's my opinion.
Roger's quote about "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" :
"I think it's very facile, but a quite clever forgery ... The songs are poor in general; the lyrics I can't quite believe. Gilmour's lyrics are very third-rate."
And on "The Division Bell" :
"Just rubbish ... nonsense from beginning to end."
I enjoy about everything that Floyd did, from the childish pshychedelic Syd songs, to the weird music and sounds from "Ummagumma" and "Atom Heart Mother", to the majestic and sublime "Dark Side Of The Moon", "Wish You Were Here" and "Animals", where the band was still working together, where every one of them was at their best, to the obligatory typical Roger concept albums "The Wall" and "The Final Cut". I think every Floyd era is special in it's own way and their progress from 1969 to 1973 (Ummagumma-Dark Side) is simpy amazing. I could never really get into the Gilmour era though. It's not that bad, it's just not Floyd. It's just like themselves said in one of their songs :
"Where is the feeling gone?
Will I remember the songs?
The show must go on!"
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Yes, maybe Dave's intentions were good, but why the hell did he kept using the name of Pink Floyd when there were just 2 members left (talking about the Momentary Lapse years). It was really obvious that they were no longer a band anymore, so just get over it. At least, that's my opinion.
I like Dave, but........ he should have gone out as Dave Gilmour not Pink Floyd