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Title: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on March 24, 2009, 12:18:40 AM
This album has always struck a chord with me, unlike any other album ever produced.
Why is this?  Everything seems to flow perfectly in this album.  There is something about the progression that gives me chills, because I can relate to it on so many levels.

I think the entire Sgt. Pepper album has to do with life/death and/or the psychedelic experience.  The beginning is very "in this reality," but as it goes on, there are revelations and insights.  Each song is perfectly placed.

Caught in the illusions "reality," led astray from the truth:
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
With A Little Help From My Friends

Trip begins, things start to seem new:
Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
Getting Better
Fixing a Hole

Peak is coming, life will never be the same:
She's Leaving Home

"She's Leaving Home" is such an amazing song..
The beginning has to do with birth ("as the day begins") in my opinion.  By the end of the song she's "leaving home," or leaving the material/superficial world her parents have brought her up in for "truth."  Although her parents are good, they are misled.  She realizes this and starts a new path on her spiritual journey.  They think she's crazy, but in reality she's simply found the truth.  Even though leaving this reality can be hard because it is familiar and comforting, it must be done to find the ultimate truth, because the illusions of "reality" hide the truth.  And once you find that truth, you'll find comfort there.  "Fun was the one thing that money can't buy."

Peak of trip (and album):
Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite

Moments after peak, thinking and reflecting about life:
Within You, Without You

I get chills when I listen to this song, regardless of situation.  George wrote this song, and he really tells it how it is.  This song is so blatantly truthful, and it makes perfect sense in the context of the present situation.  Ponder the lyrics.

Trip levels off, positive mindset:
When I'm Sixty-Four
Lovely Rita

The tripper becomes a new person, they have found "truth" or woken up:
Good Morning, Good Morning

Tripper thinks about life before revelation (looking back on 1st song):
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)

Tripper now realizes "truth," it is both beautiful and frightening, but most of all it is jaw-dropping/amazing/fascinating/perfect.. they have found themselves and "God" - they see life in an entirely new way:
A Day in the Life

Everyday is unique and wonderful.

The very last lyrics sum it all up - life is life:
"never could be any other way"

Also the noise that happens before the "never could be any other way" part can only be heard when someone is young. It is too high pitched for adults to hear. This lends a certain beauty to the idea that there are certain things you can only see when you're young.



It seems as though people connect with this album so well, because they are subconsciously and consciously always thinking about life/death, aging, their youth, etc. .. so Beatles music in general strikes a chord with many, because it talks about such fundamental concerns, worries, musings, etc.

What do you think?  Does this interpretation resonate with you?  Please don't hesitate to share your opinions!  (heart2)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Arthur Mullard on March 24, 2009, 01:40:01 AM
DEREK:
(sings)

Oh, dear Little Flo
I love you so
Especially in your nightie

When the moonlight flits
Across your tits
Oh, Jesus Christ almighty

CLIVE:
Thank you, the Reverend Ike.


Now that resonates with me! ;D
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: The Swine on March 24, 2009, 10:20:02 AM
[sound]http://h1.ripway.com/Bobber3/innergroovebackwards.mp3[/sound]

this is the inner groove on sgt peppers backwards. do you hear what i hear? we'll f*** you like youre supermen. now THATS what sgt pepper is all about.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: BlueMeanie on March 24, 2009, 10:34:25 AM
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[sound]http://h1.ripway.com/Bobber3/innergroovebackwards.mp3[/sound]

this is the inner groove on sgt peppers backwards. do you hear what i hear? we'll f*** you like youre supermen. now THATS what sgt pepper is all about.


That's deep man. Far out!
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 24, 2009, 10:39:28 AM
or, We'll up the ante superman.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: The Swine on March 24, 2009, 10:41:37 AM
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That's deep man. Far out!

i bet you never thought of that, did you? its all about sex. the presentation of the uppermale billy shears. theres men who gives names to their dick. this ones called billy. its not billy shears, but billys here. and then with a little help from my friends. now, what would that be about. wanna do a wild guess? then theyre all shagging lucy, its getting better and theyre fixing a hole. whose hole? is this about homosexuals or what? shes leaving home and why? she wants to have fun. well you can call it anything you want. the most obvious lyrics are within you without you. how can you be within someone? when im 64, lovely rita... prove me wrong. and then theres the holes again (4000!) in a day in the life with the inner groove as a nice dessert.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: BlueMeanie on March 24, 2009, 10:43:11 AM
JT could problably find spiritual enlightenment in Alexi Sayle's 'Hello John, Got A New Motor'!

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Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 24, 2009, 11:42:50 AM
LOL...Beaten to it. Was going to suggest tapping up Jethro with this. Nice imagination Swine. Bet you party hard! heheh
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: BlueMeanie on March 24, 2009, 11:47:46 AM
I'm sure we could find some deep meaning within the line - 'I keep tropical fish, in my underpants'!
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: The Swine on March 24, 2009, 02:24:33 PM
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Nice imagination Swine.

imagination? just listen to it. imagination my ass.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on March 24, 2009, 04:53:56 PM
Gee, thanks for all your thoughtful contributions.   :o

What does this album mean to you?  Is it just music you like to enjoy, or do you find some connection with the lyrics and your life?
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: BlueMeanie on March 24, 2009, 05:09:09 PM
Just music mate. Because that's all it is; a bunch of songs strung together on two sides of black plastic, with a fancy cover.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: The Swine on March 24, 2009, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: 1915
Gee, thanks for all your thoughtful contributions.   :o
youre welcome. do you want me to go through every album?

Quote from: 1915
do you find some connection with the lyrics and your life?

in my interpretation certainly
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Out Of Me Head on March 27, 2009, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: 483
Just music mate. Because that's all it is; a bunch of songs strung together on two sides of black plastic, with a fancy cover.
See boxing, that's just two blokes hitting each, see the cinema, that's just a bunch of people watching films.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on March 29, 2009, 06:43:06 PM
See The Beatles, that's just the most popular, impressive, and lovable group of guys that ever recorded music.
I wonder why...
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: tkitna on March 29, 2009, 10:56:40 PM
The album never flowed properly for me no matter what drug of choice I was on. 'When I'm 64' kills the album in my opinion. I love 'She's Leaving Home', but its missplaced also. Georges indian bullsh*t and me never got along either.  
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on March 30, 2009, 01:09:40 AM
For my 60's class, I'm doing my presentation on SPLHCB.  :)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on March 31, 2009, 04:01:20 AM
Quote from: 373
The album never flowed properly for me no matter what drug of choice I was on. 'When I'm 64' kills the album in my opinion. I love 'She's Leaving Home', but its missplaced also. Georges indian bullsh*t and me never got along either.  

Does my interpretation (Original Post) make any sense to you?
I think 'When I'm 64,' along with 'Lovely Rita,' marks the beginning of a positive mindset after the trip.
Leaving home is leaving a false, comfortable reality for truth.
'Within you without you' is the reflection period.

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For my 60's class, I'm doing my presentation on SPLHCB.  

Cool!  Are you presenting an interpretation?  If not, what are you going to talk about during your presentation?  I am very curious.  =)

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: The Swine on March 31, 2009, 09:05:12 AM
Quote from: 748
youre welcome. do you want me to go through every album?

jethro you are ignoring my questions again. really its all about sex and no higher spirit is involved. all my loving? now whats that supposed to be? do you want to know a secret? theres a place? twist and shout? please please me? hold me tight? babys in black?
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Kevin on March 31, 2009, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: 373
The album never flowed properly for me no matter what drug of choice I was on.

I know what you mean. Then I listen to Revolver and that's as much if not more eclectic, yet the sequence doesn't seem to jar as much as Pepper.
I can't make my mind up about Pepper. Song for song it's weak, sort of Revolver The Dissapointing Sequel in fancy dress. Yet there is something  satisfying about listening to it. (and back down Jethro - nothing mystical going on here.). If I put it on I feel guilty skipping tracks (I abhor Good Morning Good Morning) or taking it off early. It's sort of sacrilege not to see it through. But that probably says more about me than Pepper and these religious mertaphors are disturbing me. Damn you Mr Tull.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: BlueMeanie on March 31, 2009, 11:06:19 AM
^ That pretty much sums it up for me as well. I never pick the odd song from it, always play it through. I'm also with you on Good Morning, Good Morning. Same goes for When I'm 64 too (never could stand McCartney's whimsical stuff). But as a whole it works, and I wouldn't change anything about it. I also think the inclusion of Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane would have ruined the effect. They would have just blown the rest of the album out the window, and shown some of the other songs up.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Kevin on March 31, 2009, 01:17:57 PM
I must add that my enjoyment of Pepper has been much enhanced by listening to it on mono vinyl (the way God and The Beatles -assuming there is a difference - intended it). So much denser and richer, not that weedy CD sound.
And I've said it before but I'll say it again - Beatle albums were constructed to be listened to in two (or four) parts. WYWY (I think) makes more much sense as the opener to side two, rather than an indian song stuck in the middle of a continuious stream of music.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: BlueMeanie on March 31, 2009, 01:41:05 PM
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I must add that my enjoyment of Pepper has been much enhanced by listening to it on mono vinyl (the way God and The Beatles -assuming there is a difference - intended it). So much denser and richer, not that weedy CD sound.
And I've said it before but I'll say it again - Beatle albums were constructed to be listened to in two (or four) parts. WYWY (I think) makes more much sense as the opener to side two, rather than an indian song stuck in the middle of a continuious stream of music.

This is a problem with many CD's that were originally sequenced for vinyl. A re-jigging of the running order is needed on some of them.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: alexis on March 31, 2009, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: 185

I know what you mean. Then I listen to Revolver and that's as much if not more eclectic, yet the sequence doesn't seem to jar as much as Pepper.
I can't make my mind up about Pepper. Song for song it's weak, sort of Revolver The Dissapointing Sequel in fancy dress. Yet there is something  satisfying about listening to it. (and back down Jethro - nothing mystical going on here.). If I put it on I feel guilty skipping tracks (I abhor Good Morning Good Morning) or taking it off early. It's sort of sacrilege not to see it through. But that probably says more about me than Pepper and these religious mertaphors are disturbing me. Damn you Mr Tull.

I've always liked "Good Morning, Good Morning", for it's piercing guitar licks, and jarring tempo changes. And, I'm shallow enough and easily enough amused that I liked the animal sequences at the end, especially how the ducks morphed into George's two note intro into Reprise.

Then more recently, after John died, that line "Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in" has stuck out in my mind (not quite haunted me), as it's pretty much what Emergency Department docs say when they pronounce someone deceased, like after a shooting. Between that, Happiness is a Warm Gun, and the repeated "Shoot Me" line in Come Together, it's clear John had a premonition at some level about what was going to happen. At least that's what my Tarot Card reader gypsy lady tells me (Cliff Richard or Cher, anybody?)  ;)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: BlueMeanie on March 31, 2009, 04:48:10 PM
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it's clear John had a premonition at some level about what was going to happen. At least that's what my Tarot Card reader gypsy lady tells me (Cliff Richard or Cher, anybody?)  ;)

Oh no, you'll get Jethro going now! ;D

How come you haven't started a thread about Jethro Tull then Jethro? Or is it industrial farm machinery you're interested in?
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on March 31, 2009, 06:10:52 PM
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jethro you are ignoring my questions again.

Sorry >.< but none of your questions seem relevant to this thread.

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But that probably says more about me than Pepper and these religious mertaphors are disturbing me. Damn you Mr Tull.

Haha.  I haven't said anything related to religion.  Although I must admit, I have had some mystical experiences with this album.  Maybe I'll share them in a few posts.

It's not about some ridiculous far fetched mystical interpretation, it's just what the lyrics say, and the feeling of the songs.  I think the album flows perfectly, especially starting with "She's Leaving Home."  I think the entire album could be compared to a psychedelic trip.  I won't repeat what I said in the Original Post, but I think 'She's Leaving Home' marks when the tripper, "leaves home," or leaves a false, material reality given by the parents and their instruction.  The tripper leaves the comfort of the false reality, and is free, because that reality was just an illusion.  Leaving reality for the truth.

Then, Mr. Kite, just the carnival feeling, it's like the peak of the trip, and the peak of the album.  Through freedom of mind (thanks to the drugs), the tripper sees things as they are, and is confused at first and can't quite integrate anything.

Within You Without You has the truest lyrics I have ever seen.  Just think about what they are saying related to our current situation.  This song is the reflection period of the trip, when the tripper integrates everything learned from the trip into life.  In doing this, they find peace of mind.

Then the album lightens up, and everyday activities become new again, instead of a boring part of a false reality.  Everything is just wonderful and happy.  "Who could ask for more?"  The tripper realizes that everyday life is always new and entertaining, and starts to have fun.

Good morning is just like waking up anew everyday, no more false reality, just joy.  No agenda.  Just life.

For me, it's not even possible to skip a song, because everything is in the perfect order.

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Oh no, you'll get Jethro going now!

How come you haven't started a thread about Jethro Tull then Jethro? Or is it industrial farm machinery you're interested in?

;D

Maybe I am actually Ian Anderson?
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Jane on March 31, 2009, 07:43:04 PM
It`s not my favourite album, but it`s amazing how the band transformed and blew the world`s mind with it making everybody wonder at their creativity and innovativeness.

I don`t intend to support JT but there were some people who called The Beatles "divine messiahs, the wisest, holiest most effective avatars" after the album had been released.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on March 31, 2009, 10:15:53 PM
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It`s not my favourite album, but it`s amazing how the band transformed and blew the world`s mind with it making everybody wonder at their creativity and innovativeness.

Aye, Jane.  It is quite spectacular and awe-inspiring how one group changed so much over the course of about ten years.  Anybody who has ever been in a band knows what they did is near impossible.  They tried so many things, and they were all mind-blowing and innovative.

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I don`t intend to support JT but there were some people who called The Beatles "divine messiahs, the wisest, holiest most effective avatars" after the album had been released.

And I don't expect you to support me; I just want to share things for you to check for yourself.   :)
I personally don't think it's just a coincidence that people said those sorts of things, as you already know.
The Beatles were the undisputed biggest, best, and most loved for a reason.

As far as this album, I'll repeat what I said in the original post:

"It seems as though people connect with this album so well, because they are subconsciously and consciously always thinking about life/death, aging, their youth, etc. .. so Beatles music in general strikes a chord with many, because it talks about such fundamental concerns, worries, musings, etc."

I think this album perfectly takes us through a psychedelic trip, including the pre-trip (false reality), trip (revealing), and post-trip (reflection).
Psychedelic trips have a lot in common with birth, death, aging, youth, etc.
I won't go into detail out of respect for those of you who have endured such journeys.

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Kevin on April 01, 2009, 08:38:27 AM
Quote from: 1915

I think this album perfectly takes us through a psychedelic trip, including the pre-trip (false reality), trip (revealing), and post-trip (reflection).
Psychedelic trips have a lot in common with birth, death, aging, youth, etc.
I won't go into detail out of respect for those of you who have endured such journeys.


I have to ask, but I take it you are able to make this analysis because you have experienced LSD yourself?
Because your romantic notions sure as hell don't tie in with any of my experiences. False reality, revealing and reflection? How about babbling like an idiot, talking sh*t, probably followed by a good vomit about 6.00am. Very mystic.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: glass onion on April 01, 2009, 01:21:38 PM
he he he he......good quote kevin,very nicely put.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 01, 2009, 01:58:01 PM
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I have to ask, but I take it you are able to make this analysis because you have experienced LSD yourself?
Because your romantic notions sure as hell don't tie in with any of my experiences. False reality, revealing and reflection? How about babbling like an idiot, talking sh*t, probably followed by a good vomit about 6.00am. Very mystic.
you puked after lsd????i never did...maybe with the peyote or mushrooms but never with lsd....did i do it wrong??? ;D
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Kevin on April 01, 2009, 03:36:22 PM
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you puked after lsd????i never did...maybe with the peyote or mushrooms but never with lsd....did i do it wrong??? ;D

Probably more a result of not eating for 24 hours and smoking several thousand cigarettes.
But I do puke a lot anyway. Grass makes me puke (though I think that's a result of the stupid english putting tobacco in their joints. Bloody philistines.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on April 01, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: 185
I have to ask, but I take it you are able to make this analysis because you have experienced LSD yourself?
Because your romantic notions sure as hell don't tie in with any of my experiences. False reality, revealing and reflection? How about babbling like an idiot, talking sh*t, probably followed by a good vomit about 6.00am. Very mystic.

I have experienced LSD, among other things.  This analysis didn't come magically while experiencing these altered states, nor were they completely because of these altered states.  Moderation and much reflection brought these realizations into my perspectives.

Based on my explorations as a psychonaut, I equate pre-trip perspective to a false reality, blinded by illusion.  The psychedelic experience, like meditation, is the revealing, putting you face to face with your illusions of ego.  You become an observer of your own mind, and realize how powerful the illusions of the mind can be.  Then, you reflect on your experience (my favorite aspect of the trip).  In moderation (leaving enough time for reflection between trips), you might just be lucky enough to bring some realizations back and integrate them into your day-by-day life.

I appreciate your opinions Kevin, and completely understand that my perspective may not coincide with yours, but you are certainly not showing your compassionate side.   :)
Be at peace, my brother.

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: tkitna on April 02, 2009, 12:06:13 AM
I've never puked on acid either. Mushrooms,,,sure. I like Mushrooms a lot more though. Funner time in my opinion or experiences.

As for Jethro, i'm not capping on his analogy because i've done what he's done too. I've been hindered by a substance before and thrown on an album and just let my mind run away for a little while making the album out to be something its not. Its fun, but after the trip, I realize what the album was beforehand and what it is now. No problems.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on April 02, 2009, 04:11:57 AM
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As for Jethro, i'm not capping on his analogy because i've done what he's done too. I've been hindered by a substance before and thrown on an album and just let my mind run away for a little while making the album out to be something its not. Its fun, but after the trip, I realize what the album was beforehand and what it is now. No problems.

I admit that I have let my mind wander while listening to music while experiencing an altered-state of mind, but I don't hold on to those thoughts, because they meander like a restless wind inside a letter box.  This interpretation of Sgt. Peppers was constructed entirely in a sober state.  I have checked it for myself in both altered-states and non-altered-states, and it makes sense to me.

How can you realize what an album was/is?  Every time you listen to it, it's brand new.  You can only infer what it appears to be, in the present moment.  Nothing is.

What are your thoughts about Sgt. Peppers, tkitna?

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: tkitna on April 02, 2009, 11:38:06 PM
Quote from: 1915
How can you realize what an album was/is?  Every time you listen to it, it's brand new.  You can only infer what it appears to be, in the present moment.  Nothing is.

Lol, here I thought it was drugs at first, but now I realize that your just f***ed up.

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What are your thoughts about Sgt. Peppers, tkitna?

Sgt. Peppers was a failed attempt at a concept album in my opinion. First of all, its cool that its a psych album, but hell, Revolver told you it was going to be anyways, plus it was 1967 and most things were psych at that point anyhow. As for the concept image of the album,,,,where's the story? It doesnt have one and thats why it fails (miserably at that). It starts out ok with Sgt. Peppers and WALHFMF's but then it turns into a mishmash of psychedelic songs and a few that dont even apply (When I'm 64, and She's Leaving Home). If it werent for the reprise part, the album wouldnt even have the word concept associated with it at all. If this album has a story to it,,,,you made it up.

As far as i'm concerned, its a damn fine psychedelic album that portrays a little bit of magic everytime I listen to it, BUT i've heard better psych albums, i've heard much better concept albums, and i've also heard better Beatle albums. Thats how I feel.

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on April 03, 2009, 12:05:43 AM
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Lol, here I thought it was drugs at first, but now I realize that your just f***ed up.

And how did you come to this realization?

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As far as i'm concerned, its a damn fine psychedelic album that portrays a little bit of magic everytime I listen to it, BUT i've heard better psych albums, i've heard much better concept albums, and i've also heard better Beatle albums. Thats how I feel.

Cool, thanks for sharing brother.

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: tkitna on April 03, 2009, 01:58:17 AM
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And how did you come to this realization?


Because I have a hard time understanding some things you say, but i'll readily admit that i'm not the brightest bulb in the box.

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Cool, thanks for sharing brother.


Its all good. Peace! (http://www.crf2.com/images/smilies/beer.gif)

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Penny Lane on April 03, 2009, 02:03:50 AM
Quote from: 1915
Based on my explorations as a psychonaut

A psychowhat?!  (afraid2)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 03, 2009, 02:09:45 AM
it's no quadrophenia is it???it is a good attempt in the beginning but tragedy struck during the ingredients process...things were omitted and not perfected therefore the gel process was weakened but it is a damn good example of a try at least...the album is a great piece of work but the flow isn't as smooth as was intended...that album was to be concepted along the lines of growing up from youth to adulthood....the single strawberry feilds and penny lane were from their childhood....while a great taste of what was to come...the concept changed into being about a different band doing what???....here is where i seem to be an a-hole...what is the band we have known after forty years trying to convey??the point??because after the jouney no message was revealed....but at least it is great music...tho it seems incomplete..
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on April 03, 2009, 04:15:19 AM
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A psychowhat?!  (afraid2)


One who intentionally explores altered-state of consciousness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychonaut

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that album was to be concepted along the lines of growing up from youth to adulthood


If you have been reading my posts in this thread, you would realize that the 'growing up' concept is the exact concept that I am trying to portray.  That, and/or the psychedelic experience, but I think the psychedelic experience has a lot in common with 'growing up.'

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.what is the band we have known after forty years trying to convey??the point??because after the jouney no message was revealed....but at least it is great music...tho it seems incomplete..


It's quite clear, actually.  To realize it, you just have to listen to the music in a different way, a 'new' perspective.  For the sake of staying on topic in this thread, I will refer you to "The Present" thread under "Books, Magazines, and Articles," or the section mentioned in my signature.



"We were talking, about the love we all could share.  When we find it, we'll try our best to hold it there.  With our love, with our love, we can save the world, if they only knew...."
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 03, 2009, 04:22:51 AM
you are not conveying your point in a common man way tho you seem condesending and emit a holier than thou essence...that is why you are putting people off...that is why they are dimissing you as a crack pot....try to explain it to us like you're an idiot like us.... ;)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 03, 2009, 04:26:09 AM
they didn't abandon the whole concept of youth to grown but it is obscured by the band concept and is hard to realize......
you remind me of juniors farm...are you by chance a paul fan????no insult intended just curious....
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 03, 2009, 04:27:21 AM
a mask worn leaves it's face upon the wearer long after removed...... ;)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 03, 2009, 04:34:38 AM
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they didn't abandon the whole concept of youth to grown but it is obscured by the band concept and is hard to realize......
you remind me of juniors farm...are you by chance a paul fan????no insult intended just curious....
funny he left right after this post by me.......strange but true...
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 03, 2009, 04:45:17 AM
Quote from: 1915

One who intentionally explores altered-state of consciousness.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychonaut[/url]



If you have been reading my posts in this thread, you would realize that the 'growing up' concept is the exact concept that I am trying to portray.  That, and/or the psychedelic experience, but I think the psychedelic experience has a lot in common with 'growing up.'



It's quite clear, actually.  To realize it, you just have to listen to the music in a different way, a 'new' perspective.  For the sake of staying on topic in this thread, I will refer you to "The Present" thread under "Books, Magazines, and Articles," or the section mentioned in my signature.



"We were talking, about the love we all could share.  When we find it, we'll try our best to hold it there.  With our love, with our love, we can save the world, if they only knew...."

you left me hanging BROTHER...........
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Kevin on April 03, 2009, 09:19:00 AM
Love your reviews TK and pc. Exactly my thoughts.
I've always thought that if you take away the false aura of mystery created by the cover and Paul's Pepper song and reprise you're left with Revolver 2 - an eclectic (maybe even disparate) collection of songs that is really inferior to its predecessor. Followed by the calamity of MMT and I do think Paul's big idea - no matter how unfulfilled - saved The Beatles.
Imagine if the Beatles story went like this:
Help! movie - crappy teen fodder, no better than SpiceWorld.
Paperback Writer - first single since the darkages not to go straight to #1, worst performing single since Please Please Me.
Eleanor R/Yellow Sub - album tracks as singles because no new material.
Revolver: least length of time at #1 than any Beatles album.
Abandon touring.
Epstein forced to publicly discount breakup rumours.
SFF and PL fail to reach #1
A Dolls House (Pepper songs replaced by SFF and PL). Would it have done any better than the superior Revolver?
MMT : the film is universally panned.
.....Trouble at mill...............
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: tkitna on April 03, 2009, 11:45:20 AM
Quote from: 284
funny he left right after this post by me.......strange but true...



Must you run them all off? (http://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider/lol8.gif)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: tkitna on April 03, 2009, 11:52:32 AM
Quote from: 185
I've always thought that if you take away the false aura of mystery created by the cover and Paul's Pepper song and reprise you're left with Revolver 2 - an eclectic (maybe even disparate) collection of songs that is really inferior to its predecessor.

Wow, this is pretty much how I feel, but couldnt word it correctly. I want to emphasize the word 'inferior' in your post as its true. Peppers has just a bit to much gloss on it.

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 03, 2009, 12:29:28 PM
what you gentlemen is suggesting is high treason..........(smoking3)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 03, 2009, 07:43:51 PM
waiting for your reply to post it sez ewe did...10 minutes ago...-_Qwzcq7Gjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Qwzcq7Gjo)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 03, 2009, 07:55:41 PM
KDDhOa0iAIs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDDhOa0iAIs)cHqT1Gk_Lc8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHqT1Gk_Lc8)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: tkitna on April 04, 2009, 01:49:23 AM
Quote from: 284
waiting for your reply to post it sez ewe did...10 minutes ago

What in the hell are you talking about?

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 04, 2009, 01:33:01 PM
i saw jt on the board and checked the viewers online and it read that he posted on this topic but it never showed...
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: tkitna on April 05, 2009, 12:03:35 AM
Hmm,,,strange.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 05, 2009, 02:27:40 AM
didn't his use of the term brother remind you of jr????? and the way he gravitated towards heated debate??? and the way he seemed so happy to have you and me in a discussion???and the i know more than you attitude???i smells a rat.... ;D
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: tkitna on April 05, 2009, 03:16:20 AM
Its possible, but this cat was talking all weird and stuff. He wasnt making sense in half of his posts. JR. was more vicious.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on April 05, 2009, 03:34:48 PM
Quote from: 284
you are not conveying your point in a common man way tho you seem condesending and emit a holier than thou essence...that is why you are putting people off...that is why they are dimissing you as a crack pot....try to explain it to us like you're an idiot like us.... ;)

Sorry if I am coming off like that; I'm trying to share what I have found while being as friendly as possible.
If I am putting people off, that just means I am still learning how to relate to others.  I haven't been in these forums for very long.
Didn't mean to blow you off; I had a pretty crazy weekend.
Explain what to you now?
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: HeyJude18 on April 05, 2009, 03:42:54 PM
Quote from: 1915
If I am putting people off, that just means I am still learning how to relate to others.  I haven't been in these forums for very long.

So you've been a hermit for years?  No human contact in order to know how to relate and talk to people??
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Living One on April 05, 2009, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: 1447

So you've been a hermit for years?  No human contact in order to know how to relate and talk to people??

Quite the opposite actually, but forums are new to me.  I'd much rather talk to people in person, but with some things (like spreading truth or interpreting Beatles' albums), it is better to type out my thoughts instead of just rambling to someone who I am talking to.  I certainly wouldn't want to sit down and listen to someone explain absolute truth, but I wouldn't mind reading interpretations.  =)

The internet is a wonderful thing; a human network that can bring people together if used for compassion.  The internet is the main reason for our exponential progress in the evolution of life.

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: tkitna on April 05, 2009, 07:09:41 PM
Naw, your alright JT. Stick around and post your ass off.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: glass onion on April 05, 2009, 07:47:23 PM
i do like sgt.pepper but i don't think there is any kind of concept or story,it is just a good album-although in my opinion not in the top 3 beatles albums.i must admit folks that some of the posts i have just read have gone way,way over my head.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: PaulieBear on April 06, 2009, 12:09:14 AM
wow. the first post is beautiful!
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Bobber on April 06, 2009, 07:17:42 AM
I like the third.
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: pc31 on April 06, 2009, 06:54:48 PM
i'm gonna plead the third.......
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Mrs Lennon on April 18, 2009, 07:55:15 PM
What is this? (huh2)
(http://www.thearches.co.uk/assets/images/AprilAug2009/Easy-Stars-Lonely-Hearts-Dub-Band.jpg)
Cannabis leaves, Sgt. Pepper suits and...dreadlocks?
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: An Apple Beatle on April 18, 2009, 08:40:24 PM
Quote from: 1657
What is this? (huh2)
([url]http://www.thearches.co.uk/assets/images/AprilAug2009/Easy-Stars-Lonely-Hearts-Dub-Band.jpg[/url])
Cannabis leaves, Sgt. Pepper suits and...dreadlocks?


http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/m-1239091341/s-1/#num1
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Mrs Lennon on April 20, 2009, 08:31:19 PM
Oh. Okay. :)
Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Andy Smith on April 21, 2009, 01:37:37 PM
Quote from: 1657
What is this? (huh2)
([url]http://www.thearches.co.uk/assets/images/AprilAug2009/Easy-Stars-Lonely-Hearts-Dub-Band.jpg[/url])
Cannabis leaves, Sgt. Pepper suits and...dreadlocks?


my uncle bought this last week and said it was cool! a reggaee version of A day in the Life?  :-/

Title: Re: Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Post by: Whoeveriam on August 21, 2009, 11:51:00 PM
Before they fixed a hole...

George Harrison on Sgt. Pepper cover and Tea! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW7zBqF79ys#normal)