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Title: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on March 05, 2014, 01:50:18 AM
Resnikoff confirms that a vinyl edition of the Beatles’ mono albums, released on CD in 2009, will be issued later this year on a date to be announced.

http://variety.com/2014/music/news/the-business-of-the-beatles-continues-to-grow-1201073393/ (http://variety.com/2014/music/news/the-business-of-the-beatles-continues-to-grow-1201073393/)
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 05, 2014, 02:43:01 AM
Yes, you know it's good news!

Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: oldbrownshoe on March 05, 2014, 07:09:18 AM
That's fine and dandy but, in the wake of the recent mono/stereo releases of the U.S. albums, I'd value much more a mono/stereo release of each of the U.K. albums on CD for a tenner each.
Others might like the current arrangement, but for me having a stereo box AND a mono box is unwieldy (I don't like box sets) and I'd much rather buy the releases over a period of time.
It would also have meant the campaign would have stretched over a wider period, rather than the one big splurge.

I voted with my feet in 2009 and am the proud owner of just one of the 2009 releases, 'The White Album', bizarrely picked up in an Oxfam three weeks after its release for £1!!!
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on March 12, 2014, 09:00:57 PM
And I am the proud owner of none of the 2009 releases. :)
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: oldbrownshoe on March 14, 2014, 05:34:16 PM
Can I ask why not?
My own reason was because I could think of no earthly reason (apart from profit) why each LP couldn't have the mono and stereo versions on one disc.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on March 15, 2014, 02:56:53 AM
Can I ask why not?

Because I was always glad with my old 1987 CDs, and I didn't like the way the 2009 releases sounded, having listened to several songs from those new CDs. They sound cleaner, yes, but also highly artificial to my ears. Furthermore, I don't like the fact that they erased some "mistakes" from the original masters.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on March 15, 2014, 07:51:59 PM
Because I was always glad with my old 1987 CDs, and I didn't like the way the 2009 releases sounded, having listened to several songs from those new CDs. They sound cleaner, yes, but also highly artificial to my ears. Furthermore, I don't like the fact that they erased some "mistakes" from the original masters.


Are you talking about the stereo or the mono box?  I can see your point if you're referring to the stereo box, although I don't agree; I like the sound of it.

The mono box, to my ears at least might be the greatest CD remasters ever.  Nothing was messed with; they sound real and honest.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 15, 2014, 09:36:35 PM
The 2009 MONO set is one of my prized possessions.  I agree with you, George.  It's very special.

Nowhere Man, if you haven't heard Sgt. Pepper's in MONO, then you really haven't heard it at all.  We knew this years ago and that's why I bought the UK MONO LP not long after its release.  Listening on YouTube doesn't come close to hearing the MONO LP on a fine stereo system.  Listening to the remastered MONO CD recreates the experience.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on March 16, 2014, 05:43:37 AM
I tend to prefer stereo. Just in some exceptions I prefer mono. For example, I don't like the stereo Please Please Me and With The Beatles.

I do know that the Beatles worked more on the mono masters, but still prefer stereo.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 15, 2014, 08:20:52 PM
It's official.  September 9.

http://www.examiner.com/article/looks-like-mono-british-beatles-vinyl-lps-coming-sept-9-early-listings-show (http://www.examiner.com/article/looks-like-mono-british-beatles-vinyl-lps-coming-sept-9-early-listings-show)
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: oldbrownshoe on June 15, 2014, 09:59:12 PM
So you'll be able to buy The 'mono' Beatles's LPs individually on a medium which few people still buy, but you still can't buy them in mono individually on a medium which many/most people still utilize, i.e. CD.....erm, OK.

The Record Industry circa 2014 seems almost hell-bent on NOT selling records.
£10 notes are literally burning my pockets in readiness to be spent at HMV on the 'White Album' CD in mono.

I honestly don't understand, I'll buy an Os Mutantes CD instead then, Apple.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 16, 2014, 12:26:49 AM
So you'll be able to buy The 'mono' Beatles's LPs individually on a medium which few people still buy, but you still can't buy them in mono individually on a medium which many/most people still utilize, i.e. CD.....erm, OK.

The Record Industry circa 2014 seems almost hell-bent on NOT selling records.
£10 notes are literally burning my pockets in readiness to be spent at HMV on the 'White Album' CD in mono.

I honestly don't understand, I'll buy an Os Mutantes CD instead then, Apple.



I agree that the mono CDs should be sold individually.  I never understood why not.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: KelMar on June 16, 2014, 01:44:02 AM
It's official.  September 9.

[url]http://www.examiner.com/article/looks-like-mono-british-beatles-vinyl-lps-coming-sept-9-early-listings-show[/url] ([url]http://www.examiner.com/article/looks-like-mono-british-beatles-vinyl-lps-coming-sept-9-early-listings-show[/url])


I am tempted to be extremely excited about this. I say tempted because I keep thinking about your experience with the stereo vinyl box set, George. But it's encouraging that I can buy them separately.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 16, 2014, 02:22:04 AM
I am tempted to be extremely excited about this. I say tempted because I keep thinking about your experience with the stereo vinyl box set, George. But it's encouraging that I can buy them separately.


Yep, I like the separate releases, Kelley.  I especially want to be able crank up Day Tripper and Paperback Writer in mono on vinyl!

I'm going to wait this time and read the reviews of the U.S. pressings this time and if they are bad I'll order the European pressings.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Badgirl66 on June 16, 2014, 11:09:49 AM
11+2 Albums with 108 Pages Hardcover Book

Please Please Me
With The Beatles
A Hard Day's Night
Beatles For Sale
Help!
Rubber Soul
Revolver
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Magical Mystery Tour
The Beatles (2-LP)
Mono Masters (3-LP)


  (http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc440/th_915901216_RS139_TheBeatlesMonoOnVinylPackshot_lpr_122_440lo.jpg) (http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=915901216_RS139_TheBeatlesMonoOnVinylPackshot_lpr_122_440lo.jpg)
     
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 16, 2014, 01:03:08 PM
Cut from analog, and pressed by Optimal in Germany.  No crappy U.S. pressing issues this time.

http://www.thebeatles.com/news/beatles-get-back-mono (http://www.thebeatles.com/news/beatles-get-back-mono)
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Badgirl66 on June 16, 2014, 05:22:43 PM
http://www.optimal-media.com/de/press/vinyl (http://www.optimal-media.com/de/press/vinyl)
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: KelMar on June 16, 2014, 07:20:00 PM
Cut from analog, and pressed by Optimal in Germany.  No crappy U.S. pressing issues this time.

[url]http://www.thebeatles.com/news/beatles-get-back-mono[/url] ([url]http://www.thebeatles.com/news/beatles-get-back-mono[/url])


Great!
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 16, 2014, 07:58:46 PM
Great!



+ party2
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: KelMar on June 17, 2014, 03:43:46 AM
I'm going to start with Rubber Soul and hopefully I can do the Mono Masters at the same time. But now I feel bad that I don't have a great turntable. I take good care of the stylus but I hope it doesn't damage these.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: KelMar on June 17, 2014, 05:40:50 AM
http://youtu.be/bdKjMWBZygs (http://youtu.be/bdKjMWBZygs)
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: oldbrownshoe on June 17, 2014, 07:16:37 PM
Whilst acknowledging that the cost per unit of vinyl will be more (make no mistake the main reason for record company interest in the medium) exactly how many units of, say, 'With The Beatles' will Apple expect to sell on vinyl?

These releases certainly won't be as visible as their CD equivalents, the chances of Sainsbury's selling vinyl on the shop floor is as likely as England winning the World Cup, and the majority of purchases will be made by existing fans. I can't get excited by that.

The Monkees are till served better in this area in 2014 than The Beatles, and as for the calamity that is The Stones back catalogue.....yikes!
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 17, 2014, 11:10:31 PM
From Analog Planet, this detailed article: The Beatles Get Back To Mono and AAA Vinyl
 (http://www.analogplanet.com/content/beatles-get-back-mono-and-aaa-vinyl)

Unfortunately, these albums will not be exacty the same as the originally-released MONO LPs.  It would be impossible to do that given the age of the master tapes and the newer equipment used produce these pressings...

It’s important to remember that the tapes have aged—some as much as fifty years—and the monitoring, playback and mastering equipment have changed as well, even though the work was done in the very same room in which the originals were mastered. Solid state has replaced tubes in the cutting chain.

The extensive listening and final post production work was accomplished by Abbey Road’s GRAMMY® Award winning engineer Sean Magee and GRAMMY® Award winning mastering supervisor Steve Berkowitz.  Working from the original production notes, they have re-mixed the albums to produce the best-sounding MONO LPs possible.  They will be on the heavy vinyl we remember from the 1960s and packaged similarly too.  But for purists, these will not be recreations of the original LPs but renderings close enough for the majority of us.

They'll be expensive too.  Amazon already has the collection available for pre-order:  The Beatles in Mono Vinyl Box Set (Limited Edition) (http://www.amazon.com/Beatles-Mono-Vinyl-Box-Limited/dp/B005NJ9CHK/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1403042000&sr=1-1&keywords=the+beatles+mono)

Over the years prior to the CD release of The Beatles catalog in 1987, I purchased a few original UK MONO LPs.  Most important, to me, are the Rubber Soul and Sgt. Pepper's MONO LPs.  My first pressing Rubber Soul LP is a -1 matrix "Loud Cut" album.  The backing instrumentals are a bit louder and more aggressive than the later pressings which soon followed.  I think that LP rocks!



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But I'm glad I also have a copy of pressing which followed.

And as I've mentioned elsewhere on this board, one of my "prized poseessions" is a mint first UK MONO pressing of Sgt. Pepper's.  It's an experience to listen to!  The MONO CD Remaster comes close.  I hope the new MONO LP will come even closer.

Those two LPs are very expensive today.  So is the original MONO UK The Beatles album.  As the article mentions...

When I interviewed Ken Scott, he told me that Paul wanted the stereo mix of The Beatles to be as different as possible from the mono because that might induce fans to buy both. The mono mix came first. And the two mixes are very different. You could say the stereo mix was more about commerce than art. If you grew up listening to the stereo mix, the mono will be an ear opener.

It's still possible to get original UK MONO LPs in excellent condition for reasonable amounts.  For those who want something very close to the original, this box set is perfect.  It's important to have a quality turntable, stylus and system to fully appreciate these LPs.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 17, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
You can listen to some original U.K. mono vinyl here.

https://www.youtube.com/user/anthos314/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/anthos314/videos)
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 17, 2014, 11:47:54 PM
Thanks, George.  There's enough there to demonstrate just how nice the MONO vinyl LPs are.  He posted the Rubber Soul "Loud Cut" first pressing too...


Rubber Soul Loud Cut MONO vinyl side 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWnbZNRXbnQ#ws)

Rubber Soul Loud Cut MONO vinyl side 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uedJKgRE3JU#ws)





And there's the MONO Sgt. Pepper's.  Listening to it, it's quite obvious who sings the ahhhs...


Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band MONO Vinyl 1st Press light cover side 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61vQ7DczPCA#ws)




 ;)
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 17, 2014, 11:58:09 PM
Thanks, George.  There's enough there to demonstrate just how nice the MONO vinyl LPs are.  He posted the Rubber Soul "Loud Cut" first pressing too...


Rubber Soul Loud Cut MONO vinyl side 1 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWnbZNRXbnQ#ws[/url])

Rubber Soul Loud Cut MONO vinyl side 2 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uedJKgRE3JU#ws[/url])





And there's the MONO Sgt. Pepper's.  Listening to it, it's quite obvious who sings the ahhhs...


Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band MONO Vinyl 1st Press light cover side 2 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61vQ7DczPCA#ws[/url])




 ;)



It's a nice appetizer while waiting for the mono release Barry.  I have the mono CD box and love it, but there is something about having these on vinyl.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 18, 2014, 01:58:48 AM

It's a nice appetizer while waiting for the mono release Barry.  I have the mono CD box and love it, but there is something about having these on vinyl.

This is a collection I'll pass on, George.  I have five 1960s UK MONO Beatles LPs including the Rubber Soul first and second pressings and Sgt. Pepper's first pressing.  A Hard Day's Night and Beatles For Sale are the other two.  I'm content with these which supplement my own Capitol LPs I purchased when they were released.

How's your AT-LP120 doing?
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 18, 2014, 02:42:12 AM
I'm getting them because the only Beatles vinyl I have is the 2012 stereo set so these will be a nice addition.

The turntable is great Barry.  The Shure M97xE High-Performance Magnetic Phono Cartridge and theJico SAS Stylus are great additions.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 18, 2014, 02:55:30 AM
Then it's important that you get this set, George.  I'm sure these technicians did a great job with the original analog tapes and the final product will be very close to the original 1960s pressings.  You also have a fine audio system to play your LPs.

But you're right in delaying your purchase until the reviews come in. 
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Badgirl66 on June 18, 2014, 07:16:33 AM

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Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 18, 2014, 06:34:10 PM
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I think it's cool that the sleeves will be in the original "fold over" style.  I expect that The White Album will be a top-loader like the original.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 18, 2014, 06:37:22 PM
[url]http://youtu.be/bdKjMWBZygs[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/bdKjMWBZygs[/url])



I posted this comment about the video over at the Steve Hoffman forums.  Hope I don't get in trouble here for it.  :angel:

"This video is better than porn."

Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on June 18, 2014, 06:39:47 PM
Then it's important that you get this set, George.  I'm sure these technicians did a great job with the original analog tapes and the final product will be very close to the original 1960s pressings.  You also have a fine audio system to play your LPs.

But you're right in delaying your purchase until the reviews come in.


Since I found out it's sourced from the analog masters and will pressed by Optimal in Germany I went ahead and pre-ordered it Barry.   ;)
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: KelMar on June 18, 2014, 07:22:33 PM

I posted this comment about the video over at the Steve Hoffman forums.  Hope I don't get in trouble here for it.  :angel:

"This video is better than porn."

 ha2ha Naw....no worries George!
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 19, 2014, 02:44:54 AM

I think it's cool that the sleeves will be in the original "fold over" style.  I expect that The White Album will be a top-loader like the original.

As I pictured in the Rubber Soul album I posted.  No thin sides to split.  Also, the UK LPs weren't shrink-wrapped as were the Capitol albums.  They had loose plastic wrappers which didn't warp the covers.  The UK covers also have a nice glossy surface.  They were beautifully prepared and had plastic-lined inner sleeves.

I agree, George.  The White Album will be a top-loader like the original.
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Fab4Fan on June 20, 2014, 01:26:46 AM
I see some very informative comments and I am now convinced to purchase the box set. Also, thanks to everyone who posted the great vids.  I just love those mono recordings!
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: southroad3 on June 28, 2014, 04:14:22 PM
I see some very informative comments and I am now convinced to purchase the box set. Also, thanks to everyone who posted the great vids.  I just love those mono recordings!
Hi Fab4Fan and all readers of this forum, I was so excited by the great news about the upcoming vinyl mono re-masters I decided to join this forum to add my comments ! The first vinyl I bought many years ago was The Beatles , Pathe-Marconi pressing, I then added most of the main releases in stereo. I discovered about 23 years ago that the mono versions had variations , so I hunted down the mono releases, all UK pressings. The only release I don't have currently is The Beatles , which of course costs a small fortune, so I am delighted to know I will be able to buy a brand new White album in mono, so roll on September I say!
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: KelMar on June 28, 2014, 10:17:06 PM
Hi Fab4Fan and all readers of this forum, I was so excited by the great news about the upcoming vinyl mono re-masters I decided to join this forum to add my comments ! The first vinyl I bought many years ago was The Beatles , Pathe-Marconi pressing, I then added most of the main releases in stereo. I discovered about 23 years ago that the mono versions had variations , so I hunted down the mono releases, all UK pressings. The only release I don't have currently is The Beatles , which of course costs a small fortune, so I am delighted to know I will be able to buy a brand new White album in mono, so roll on September I say!

Welcome to the forum southroad3!
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Fab4Fan on June 29, 2014, 03:41:46 AM
Welcome southroad3!  That makes at least "Two Of Us" who can't wait for the vinyl mono box set!
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: ibanez_ax on August 21, 2014, 12:56:26 AM
Here is what the new set looks like.  I think the Hoffman forums just blew up.  ha2ha

http://youtu.be/TWt3xzaAdl4 (http://youtu.be/TWt3xzaAdl4)
Title: Re: New Beatles mono vinyl box to be released this year
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 21, 2014, 04:10:03 AM
Here is what the new set looks like.  I think the Hoffman forums just blew up.  ha2ha

[url]http://youtu.be/TWt3xzaAdl4[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/TWt3xzaAdl4[/url])


Well, there it is in all its glory.  A fine collection which I'm sure will play as nicely as it looks.