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Title: are you sensitive about john?
Post by: sexy sadie on March 10, 2005, 12:39:16 AM
do you guys get easily upset over john's death, or things related to that? does it hurt you but not outwardly? how sensitive are you? im pretty sad about it, not to the point where i cry every time i hear his voice, but when i really think about it makes me sad. the only times i've really cried over him were the 1st time i heard "empty garden" by elton john, and at the end of the "imagine" movie when they show all his fans crying.  :(
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Post by: The End on March 10, 2005, 12:45:13 AM
I must admit my first ever trip to Liverpool was a very emotional experience for me! It was to celebrate what would have been John's 50th birthday - Yoko organised a huge concert and, at the end, the crowd all joined in singing Give Peace A Chance - not a dry eye in sight!!
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Post by: Mairi on March 10, 2005, 12:50:07 AM
I'm not the crying type, but I do get very sad when I think about it. I also get angry and defensive whenever one of my thoughtless classmates makes a tasteless joke about it.
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Post by: number14 on March 10, 2005, 01:02:38 AM
ive nevr cried but ya its sad
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Post by: on March 10, 2005, 02:29:52 AM
Each year I try to get to New York because its the greatest city on the Planet, and I always make a pilgrimage to the Dakota and Strawberry Fields, and even after all these years, you look where Chapman was waiting and where John got shot and stumbled and you just re-enact it in your head and it always gets my heart racing. This will sound strange but sometimes I'll still dream that I'm trying to warn him about what's going to happen. Its an strange disparity because you look at the entrance to the Dakota and its like a time warp and you're back in 1980, as the City whizzes by. I always look up at their Co-op and the only movement I ever saw was a few of their cats in the window. Some sites won't even let you mention Chapman's name because it is too 'disturbing' which I think is a little much. Its reality unfortunately, and I think people have a right to be p*ssed or despise the man, but to not be able to deal with the mention of his name is a bit over the top.
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Post by: lennonlemon on March 10, 2005, 02:41:28 AM
it's weird. i never met john and he died more than a decade before i was born, but i feel a strange connection with him. i guess you could say i'm senstivie about him and i just wish i could have met or even seen him live once.
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Post by: on March 10, 2005, 04:46:54 AM
That end part of the Imagine film always gets me choked up too...

I feel empty inside when I really think about him being gone and not being able to change the world like he wanted to... But then again, I was never alive while he was, so I can't say I am over sensitive about it...
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Post by: Sondra on March 10, 2005, 06:29:14 AM
I'm very sensitive to it. Even reading this thread got me a bit emotional. Maybe because I was alive when it happened so it's more real to me. It was so f-ing sad you can't imagine unless you were around to experience the shock. I don't get on people for mentioning that things name, but I certainly wouldn't mind if it was never mentioned either. I can't help but think of his last moment you know. And the horror he went through. That announcement that doctor made. It's all too much. I'm already getting upset.
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Post by: The End on March 10, 2005, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
This will sound strange but sometimes I'll still dream that I'm trying to warn him about what's going to happen.

Not strange at all - I've had those dreams too! There is one particular dream I remember... John's death had been faked and he was actually secretly being held prisoner by the Russians. Then due to the collapse of communism, John was set free at a surprise press conference!

It's great having those dreams, the only problem is you have to wake up.
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Post by: Wayne L. on March 10, 2005, 03:52:18 PM
I'm not sensitive over John's death after over 20 years but it was like a hit to the gut when he was killed back in 80.  
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Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on March 11, 2005, 03:03:38 AM
it sucks, i get sensitive sometimes, mostly when Im watching Imagine
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Post by: Because on March 11, 2005, 03:30:22 AM
sometimes, maybe if im just in a melancholy mood to begin with. on those certain days when u get to a certain part of one of his songs, and u just hear him singing. john had alot of emotion in his voice, and the saddest thing is this happens to people every day. their lives are ended abruptly for no good reason. its particularly sad in johns case to all of us because we all know how much talent he had, how much more music he would have made. how he would have had a big impact in the years after 1980. so much potential. in the end, john was just a good person. no more, certainly no less. he was an equal to all other human beings who died violently way too young. rest in peace, john, u are greatly missed
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Post by: lennonlemon on March 11, 2005, 11:51:03 AM
Quote from: The_End

Not strange at all - I've had those dreams too! There is one particular dream I remember... John's death had been faked and he was actually secretly being held prisoner by the Russians. Then due to the collapse of communism, John was set free at a surprise press conference!

It's great having those dreams, the only problem is you have to wake up.

ha ha, interesting dream.......................................................................
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Post by: sexy sadie on March 13, 2005, 06:59:09 AM
Quote from: The_End

Not strange at all - I've had those dreams too! There is one particular dream I remember... John's death had been faked and he was actually secretly being held prisoner by the Russians. Then due to the collapse of communism, John was set free at a surprise press conference!

It's great having those dreams, the only problem is you have to wake up.

awww man, i hate dreams that are so good, and then you wake up. i had a strange dream once where i was @ a graveyard. john, paul, me, and a bunch of other people were all waiting in a long line. i wasn't sure what the line was for @ 1st, but as i got closer it was a dug out grave. i was confused as to what was going on, so i asked paul and he said "we're all dying. everyone's jumping in the grave, and then you're dead." i was so shocked and scared, i tried to get out of line but there was no way out. i looked forward and saw john swing down into the hole in the ground, then paul. right b4 i was supposed to, i woke up. strange :-/

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Post by: elementary_penguin on March 13, 2005, 12:07:39 PM
I am a very sensitive person. Like many have said, I wasn't born when it happened, but I do feel really sad when December 8/9th comes around. I will play my Double Fantasy in my room and just try to think of John.

 I had this dream once where I was at the Dakota, and I was watching from above as if I was flying. Suddenly I notice a person standing at the gates and he's covered in blood, and then I see that it's John. He seems to be waiting for something, but I have no idea what it is. He has this incredible anxious, sad, angry look in his eyes, and then I sort of have a feeling of what he's waiting for, so I go down and take his hand. *shivers* Across the street, another figure appears, but this time it's George. I lead John across the street and John and George disappear ... and there seems to be a thousand guitars playing in the sky ...
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Post by: frightenedandscared on March 13, 2005, 04:13:58 PM
Sometimes I am. When I first watched the beginning intro of Anthology where they play "In My Life" my eyes welled up in tears especially at the end where John takes of his hat.

What really gets to me is how happy and peaceful John was when he released Double Fantasy. He was back doing what he loved. Then he was taken away.

I've never seen Imagine and if I do I'll have to make sure I'm alone in the room. I'll probably cry bucketfulls.
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Post by: sexy sadie on March 13, 2005, 06:14:39 PM
:(
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Post by: manon on March 13, 2005, 11:57:48 PM
Yes I am very sensitive about anything related to John, even after all those years.  I miss him alot.
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Post by: Ivo on March 17, 2005, 06:12:56 AM
I get really upset when thinking of how he died and how caught off guard he was.  That is no way to go out.  Security for stars changed drastically after his death for sure.
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Post by: on March 17, 2005, 05:11:13 PM
This will probably be of little comfort to people who try to put themselves in John's position, but after he was shot, I'm sure his body was in complete shock and even though he reportedly was able to mumble his name, I'm sure he was gone very quickly and hopefully suffered little. The arteries that were severed caused him to lose such an enormous amount of blood so quickly, there's no way he had much time to suffer before he died.
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Post by: Billy Shears on March 17, 2005, 06:01:44 PM
it's not so much how dying affected him, i have a 5 year old boy and i couldn't imagine not being there for him....i think of sean and how yoko must have tried to explain things...because i know my own son would still be crying
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Post by: Taxgirl on March 23, 2005, 04:09:10 PM
I am sensitive. Once a guy in school said some very dirty things about John, and that he hated him. I got really angry, I nearly kicked him. I never cried for John though, in contrast with George.
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Post by: In Blue Hawaii on March 23, 2005, 08:39:16 PM
this is depressing
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Post by: lennonlemon on March 24, 2005, 04:09:48 AM
Quote from: MagicAlex
this is depressing

very depressing, yes,but it's good to let things out sometimes
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Post by: lennonlemon on March 24, 2005, 04:11:53 AM
Quote from: Taxgirl
I am sensitive. Once a guy in school said some very dirty things about John, and that he hated him. I got really angry, I nearly kicked him. I never cried for John though, in contrast with George.

i never understood how people could hate a man like jhon. he may have had his moments, but he lived and breathed peace and love. not to mention he was a member in the greatest band ever. what's there to hate?
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Post by: Because on March 26, 2005, 04:57:57 AM
Quote from: lennonlemon

i never understood how people could hate a man like jhon. he may have had his moments, but he lived and breathed peace and love. not to mention he was a member in the greatest band ever. what's there to hate?

yeah there are some disturbed people out there. the nazis hated the jews with no good reason, another example there is plenty of unnecessary hate in this world. actually, all hate is unnecesary. it's even worse when people act on this hatred, which was shown to us by john's slaying.
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Post by: strawb3rryfi3ldsfor3ver on March 27, 2005, 02:26:40 AM
Yeah, a bit. On the radio today, they were having a big Beatles radio show and they played this clip from the news announcing "John Lennon has been taken to the hospital. He died of a gun shot on arrival...", and I /freaked/.

o_____o I had one of those dreams as well, a few weeks ago. I showed up while they were filming A Hard Day's Night and talked to all the Beatles and then I talked to John alone in a train compartment. o_o It was ... re-ee-eally weird. "You have to be really careful the night of December 8th, 1980, okay?" He didn't know. :O

I get chills listening to his "Double Fantasy" stuff. He sounds really secure at last, and then. . . y'know. Especially "(Just Like) Starting Over" and "Watching the Wheels" for me.
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Post by: pc31 on March 27, 2005, 02:43:53 AM
no i never do....i don't see it as my right.if that makes sense.
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Post by: joan was quizzical on March 27, 2005, 09:41:57 PM
Since there was a bit of discussion about dreams about John before, I thought this would be a good place to share mine...

I'm sitting in some sort of dark room/basement with all of my friends and John and Ringo are there. They're both playing guitar for whatever reason, and we're all singing along (We do this a lot at my Uni with friends). After they finish a song, I lean over to John and say, "I know you'll think this is cheesy, but could you please play Julia?" Then everyone's quiet while he sings the first line.... "Half of what I say is meaningless..." and then he starts fingerpicking and plays/sings the rest.

It was so eerie the way he sung the first line alone like that, and the rest of it was so beautiful that I was crying in my dream (cheese-alert!). It's odd, because I haven't been one of those Beatles fans who are obsessed with Lennon in particular. I'm only recently beginning to truly realize his greatness, actually....

~ missy