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Solo forums => George Harrison => Topic started by: blmeanie on June 27, 2012, 12:24:51 AM
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About 6-8 months ago I rediscovered this song after a long hiatus. I think I hear lots of mixed emotions in it and wonder if others do too.
I hear George professing his love for his God while also being somewhat sad at how long it will take to be with him. The tone in his voice going back and forth is powerful.
I'm not a religious person but love the emotion George sings with in this song.
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I hear George professing his love for his God while also being somewhat sad at how long it will take to be with him. The tone in his voice going back and forth is powerful.
I'm not a religious person but love the emotion George sings with in this song.
I agree with you on both points, blmeanie. The vocals on this are so touching.
I just stumbled across this and thought I'd flag it: https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/my-sweet-lord-video-george-harrison-fred-armisen-mark-hamill/ (https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/my-sweet-lord-video-george-harrison-fred-armisen-mark-hamill/)
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That is a very curious teaser..
It is a really good vocal performance by George in this. I didn’t realise for years all the backing vocals are him as well.
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I find his vocals on Give Me Love (Give Me Peace on Earth) very moving as well. I really need to familiarize myself with his solo work. And I'd like to furhter acquaint myself with Billy Preston's material as well.
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That is a very curious teaser..
Yes indeed: "In the clip, Hammill hands Armisen a scanner while telling him, 'There's something out there. The bureau wants you to see it. I want you to see it.' " Armisen responds, 'I want to see it.' " (??)
Looking forward to checking this out tomorrow. My curiousity has definitely been piqued.
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About 6-8 months ago I rediscovered this song after a long hiatus. I think I hear lots of mixed emotions in it and wonder if others do too.
I hear George professing his love for his God while also being somewhat sad at how long it will take to be with him. The tone in his voice going back and forth is powerful.
I'm not a religious person but love the emotion George sings with in this song.
I'm the opposite, I don't like songs of praise. For me it's all a bit preachy. Another mega rich preacher. Anyway, he nicked the melody. Would his God approve of that ?
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he paid $600k in settlement for the melody. I don't hear it as preachy, just a dude talking about his belief, don't believe he is ever saying come join me.
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Has anyone watched the video? I just did. I liked it, although given that I'm not overly familiar with George's solo work I have no doubt many subtleties went over my head.
I'd be curious to hear people's thoughts on this.
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I mean the fact the melody was quite close to She’s So Fine is a bit of a bummer. But in its totality it’s a completely different song. Just like Crippled Inside and Merry Christmas are very different songs to the ones John cribbed the melodies from.
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I find his vocals on Give Me Love (Give Me Peace on Earth) very moving as well. I really need to familiarize myself with his solo work. And I'd like to furhter acquaint myself with Billy Preston's material as well.
I think Give Me love is my favourite of his better known solo work. Nice piece of work. I recall it being played a lot on the radio when it was out.
Billy Preston’s That’s the Way God Planned It is a great song. Produced by George I think. Billy did a great version of it at the Concert for Bangladesh.
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he paid $600k in settlement for the melody.
For the years of court cases George went through on this, nowadays it happens so often they just add the original song writers to the new song when it’s raised.
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Has anyone watched the video? I just did. I liked it, although given that I'm not overly familiar with George's solo work I have no doubt many subtleties went over my head.
I'd be curious to hear people's thoughts on this.
I'm sure you're referring to the link we received today by email from thebeatles.com to the George Harrison - My Sweet Lord (Official Music Video)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04v-SdKeEpE# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04v-SdKeEpE#)
Yes, I just watched it. It's a visual and aural treat!!!
Now I'm watching the "To Follow" George Harrison: All Things Pass (FULL MOVIE) in that link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5goAwWijAQ&t=33s# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5goAwWijAQ&t=33s#)
This is a nice way to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of My Sweet Lord...and George Harrison's life :)
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For the years of court cases George went through on this, nowadays it happens so often they just add the original song writers to the new song when it’s raised.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYiEesMbe2I# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYiEesMbe2I#)
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When I first heard My Sweet Lord, I didn't connect it at all with He's So Fine.
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When I first heard My Sweet Lord, I didn't connect it at all with He's So Fine.
Its the same song with different words ha2ha
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Its the same song with different words ha2ha
But they sound great played together. It's a whole new song! ;D
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Let's see what Pirate Bob has to say about this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KD9X_c8W8M# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KD9X_c8W8M#)
;D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdFYib55dik# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdFYib55dik#)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ugEwHsr4c# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ugEwHsr4c#)
Not a bit like Cagney
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I'm sure you're referring to the link we received today by email from thebeatles.com to the George Harrison - My Sweet Lord (Official Music Video)...
Hm; no, I was referring to the link posted. Perhaps I missed something.
Now I'm watching the "To Follow" George Harrison: All Things Pass (FULL MOVIE) in that link...
I'll definitely have to pursue that. :)
When I first heard My Sweet Lord, I didn't connect it at all with He's So Fine.
Thank you—I thought I was the only one! I had to really stretch to make the connection. ???
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Its the same song with different words ha2ha
Apparently at the end of the court case the judge said he liked both songs. George’s team were “ you just ruled they’re the same song!” ha2ha
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Anyway, he nicked the melody. Would his God approve of that ?
Fortunately for George, Moses dropped the tablet that said Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neigbours Tunes. ;)
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Apparently at the end of the court case the judge said he liked both songs.
Gosh, that sounds like something I would have said. icon_redface
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Of historical note, Billy Preston recorded My Sweet Lord in January 1970 with a distinct gospel feel to it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih9r0yquoxw# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih9r0yquoxw#)
George recorded his version a few months later. He said used the out-of-copyright Christian hymn "Oh Happy Day" by the Edwin Hawkins Singers as his inspiration for the melody...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or0Qe5aCkRU# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or0Qe5aCkRU#)
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I really dont like songs that promote a religious (except in Church) or political/lifestyle message.
Usually the person spouting the views is being hypocritical.
I mean take Hare Krishna, followers devote their lives to serving Krishna and spend several hours each day chanting the Hare Krishna mantra. They are vegetarians, and they renounce the use of alcohol and drugs. Sex is allowed only for procreation within marriage. Male devotees shave their heads, leaving only a small tuft of hair called a sikha, a sign of surrender to their teacher. Each morning male and female believers mark their foreheads with clay as a reminder that their bodies are temples of Krishna.
I dont think George was vegetarian and we know from Olivia that he had a strong eye for the ladies. Materialism was a huge part of his world, living in a Palace driving Ferraris, houses all over the world.
Im not saying he shouldn't live like a very rich man, that is his choice, but dont pretend you are a follower of Hare Krishna, maybe he was a "weekend follower" :)
John also guilty of famously preaching about no possessions, while living in a stately home with a Rolls Royce and 120 acres. (and lets not forget Yoko's collection of mink coats). Again, unless you give it all away, dont preach to us normal folk who have to be concerned with little things like paying the mortgage/rent or heating bill.
Pink Floyd are hypocrites too.
I think the only song with a political message that I could accept was Strange Fruit by Billie Holiday.
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Pink Floyd are hypocrites too.
Why do you say that?
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Of historical note, Billy Preston recorded My Sweet Lord in January 1970 with a distinct gospel feel to it...
I'm glad you posted this, Barry; I've been meaning to track down his version. I hadn't realized until this year that George had offered it to him first.
I dont think George was vegetarian and we know from Olivia that he had a strong eye for the ladies. Materialism was a huge part of his world, living in a Palace driving Ferraris, houses all over the world.
Im not saying he shouldn't live like a very rich man, that is his choice, but dont pretend you are a follower of Hare Krishna, maybe he was a "weekend follower" :)
I am in complete agreement with this. After reading that Joshua Greene book (Here Comes the Sun) and learning more about Hinduism, I was dismayed to realize that George's devotion to the faith did not seem to ring true, for the reasons you just mentioned. Thus, I take his devotion to Krishna with a grain of salt.
John also guilty of famously preaching about no possessions, while living in a stately home with a Rolls Royce and 120 acres. (and lets not forget Yoko's collection of mink coats). Again, unless you give it all away, dont preach to us normal folk who have to be concerned with little things like paying the mortgage/rent or heating bill.
I'm in agreement here as well. I've always given a mental head shake and eye roll when I hear Imagine, for example.
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Why do you say that?
I'm curious, too. I know virtually nothing about Pink Floyd.
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Yeah I’m not really much on the preachy stuff either. I sort of let the words wash over me a bit if the music is good. George’s Living in the Material World album was like that. Some of George’s best music with a small tight band, but I ignored a lot of the lyrics.
Is Pink Floyd because of songs like Money? They’re slagging off people making money and living it up when they were taking in the big bucks. And no doubt spending it.
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Yeah I’m not really much on the preachy stuff either. I sort of let the words wash over me a bit if the music is good. George’s Living in the Material World album was like that. Some of George’s best music with a small tight band, but I ignored a lot of the lyrics.
Is Pink Floyd because of songs like Money? They’re slagging off people making money and living it up when they were taking in the big bucks. And no doubt spending it.
Yes, very hypocritical, I think they banked 200 million on their last tour, and Roger waters always banging on about rich people, like on Animals. He says he's left wing. His net worth is estimated at $350million.
But then they get working class Cockney kids to sing "We dont need no education" on their hit record...........All the PF guys had expensive educations at posh schools then Oxbridge, they were studying to be Architects.
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Yeah I’m not really much on the preachy stuff either.
Its not that I dont like George, maybe I sound that way. I love him really but he was sort of passive aggressive and moaned a lot. haha He was invited to join John & Paul. That made him for life, yet he just seemed to bemoan being a Beatle. And he was hypocritical about hare Krishna.
I thought of another song I dont mine politically...........Southern Man, Neil Young. Maybe Alabama too.
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Its not that I dont like George, maybe I sound that way. I love him really but he was sort of passive aggressive and moaned a lot. haha He was invited to join John & Paul. That made him for life, yet he just seemed to bemoan being a Beatle. And he was hypocritical about hare Krishna.
I thought of another song I dont mine politically...........Southern Man, Neil Young. Maybe Alabama too.
Yes the moaning got a bit much. I’ve read longer interviews with him where he’s a lot more positive but he kept harping on the downsides. Which, as you say, ignores all the huge upsides.
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Yes, very hypocritical, I think they banked 200 million on their last tour, and Roger waters always banging on about rich people, like on Animals. He says he's left wing. His net worth is estimated at $350million.
But then they get working class Cockney kids to sing "We dont need no education" on their hit record...........All the PF guys had expensive educations at posh schools then Oxbridge, they were studying to be Architects.
To the other members of Pink Floyd’s credit, I don’t think they liked Roger very much either. :alien1:
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I'm glad you posted this, Barry; I've been meaning to track down his version. I hadn't realized until this year that George had offered it to him first.
Yes, Kathy, George was influenced by Oh Happy Day and wrote a gospel song for Billy Preston to record. The two songs can be mashed with beautiful results...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLWsBZ8PUsc# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLWsBZ8PUsc#)
River Pointe & West End Church
Cher recognized this early on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUoQnuO2NqQ# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUoQnuO2NqQ#)
Hallelujah
הַלְלוּיָה
Hare Rama
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All the PF guys had expensive educations at posh schools then Oxbridge, they were studying to be Architects.
This is not true.
Roger Waters, for example, was born in Cambridge but certainly didn't go to Cambridge University (part of your Oxbridge).
He went ot the Regent Street Polytechnic in London. This, at the time, was not considered of university level. He was studying to get a job not to spend years in higher education.
His father was a school teacher and his grandfather was a miner. Not the rich background you are portraying.
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To the other members of Pink Floyd’s credit, I don’t think they liked Roger very much either. :alien1:
He seemed to take over the band like some meglomaniac ha2ha
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This is not true.
Roger Waters, for example, was born in Cambridge but certainly didn't go to Cambridge University (part of your Oxbridge).
He went ot the Regent Street Polytechnic in London. This, at the time, was not considered of university level. He was studying to get a job not to spend years in higher education.
His father was a school teacher and his grandfather was a miner. Not the rich background you are portraying.
He was studying at regent Street to become an architect ..you don't become an architect without a high level of education so why was he getting children to sing *we don't need no education* ?
And why did he write songs condemning very rich people when he was (and is)a very rich person ?
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He was studying at regent Street to become an architect ..you don't become an architect without a high level of education so why was he getting children to sing *we don't need no education* ?
And why did he write songs condemning very rich people when he was (and is)a very rich person ?
In the sixties it was easier to go to a polytechnic than a university. You only needed an average level of education to go there. Polytechnics were recognised as university level much, much later (1992).
As for his songs, they're not saying eduction or money are bad per se. One is about the abusive teachers he came across (as did everyone) in his secondary school and Money is about people who flaunt their wealth and an easy life and who come up with glib phrases about money being "the root of all evil" while secretly admitting that they're lucky to be rich.
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He seemed to take over the band like some meglomaniac ha2ha
I mean, I like Pink Floyd and Roger Waters did great stuff with them but I’m not into his political rants.
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As for his songs, they're not saying eduction or money are bad per se.
Its interesting when you criticize Pink Floyd and especially Roger Waters someone defends him and sounds offended which causes debate.
Although his followers will have none of it. I wasnt going to say much about this, it was just meant to be a passing comment, my opinion so to speak, but as usual in the world of Zipp you have to prove your point in a direct confrontational way :D As you did a few times in my Song Of The week series.
Firstly, I must admit I was wrong about the PF guys going to Oxbridge, I read that somewhere and took it as fact. Probably because of their very posh accents I believed it, and I remember Eric Clapton stating after he did the Pro's and Con's tour with Roger that he felt uncomfortable, as the rest of the band were dining out at posh restaurants, where he felt slightly embarrassed and uncomfortable and out of place, not knowing what to order, sounding like aheathen etc. so he ended up visiting a McDonalds with some of the crew instead.
It seems Roger the outspoken socialist found himself at odds with even himself over money, so a capitalist singing in sarcastic tones about monied people. (Pigs, Money)
"Money interested me enormously," Waters remarked on the twentieth anniversary of Dark Side. "I remember thinking, 'Well, this is it and I have to decide whether I'm really a socialist or not.' I'm still keen on a general welfare society, but I became a capitalist. You have to accept it. I remember coveting a Bentley like crazy. The only way to get something like that was through rock or the football pools. I very much wanted all that material stuff."
The Floyd guys were even not even above not paying the schoolkids who sang on their hit record:
This from 2012.
Now the 23 ex-pupils are suing for overdue session musician royalties, taking advantage of the Copyright Act 1997 to claim a percentage of the money from broadcasts.
https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/pink-floyd-pupils-sue-for-royalties-7257969.html (https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/pink-floyd-pupils-sue-for-royalties-7257969.html)
I never heard the outcome, probably/maybe out of court settlement.
Roger's opening song on PF's final album The Post War Dream, sounds very much like John Prine's 1971 song Sam Stone. Not only did Roger's song have the same melody, but the chord structure as well, and the key Fmajor.
https://youtu.be/Sl9ZkYViEIs (https://youtu.be/Sl9ZkYViEIs)
Nowadays he's a very rich left wing socialist again, who hates the Israeli government.
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/roger-waters-blames-israel-george-floyd-death/ (https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/roger-waters-blames-israel-george-floyd-death/)
He lambasts other artists for playing shows in Tel Aviv, like Madonna and others yet conveniently not mentioning his shows in Russia.
How did he make the decision to play there given Russia’s actions in Crimea and Ukraine?
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I mean, I like Pink Floyd and Roger Waters did great stuff with them but I’m not into his political rants.
No doubt when in PF he wrote some very good songs, very talented guy, I find his solo stuff very patchy though. Maybe he needed DG more than he thought :D
The guy is a hypocrite though. I actually like a lot of PF stuff, even The Final Cut.
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It seems Roger the outspoken socialist found himself at odds with even himself over money, so a capitalist singing in sarcastic tones about monied people.
"Money interested me enormously," Waters remarked on the twentieth anniversary of Dark Side. "I remember thinking, 'Well, this is it and I have to decide whether I'm really a socialist or not.' I'm still keen on a general welfare society, but I became a capitalist. You have to accept it. I remember coveting a Bentley like crazy. The only way to get something like that was through rock or the football pools. I very much wanted all that material stuff."
Where you see sarcasm I see honesty.
You have your opinion and I have mine, so why the attempted character assassination?
Is it confrontational to point out that your 'facts' are sometimes wrong?
I have no axe to grind here. I don't agree with everything Waters says, but I don't think he's hypocritical.
I DO think George is hypocritical when he supports the Krishna guys and then spends his time looking for sex and living an outrageously wealthy life-style.
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No doubt when in PF he wrote some very good songs, very talented guy, I find his solo stuff very patchy though. Maybe he needed DG more than he thought :D
The guy is a hypocrite though. I actually like a lot of OF stuff, even The Final Cut.
I think Final Cut is great. icon_good
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Where you see sarcasm I see honesty.
You have your opinion and I have mine, so why the attempted character assassination?
Is it confrontational to point out that your 'facts' are sometimes wrong?
I think its confrontational to do so in an unfriendly and officious way. I actually stopped doing the Song Of The Week because of you and your terse comments and the way you corrected me in such a manner that made me think "why do I bloody bother" I was enjoying the discussion on the SOTW and getting people's opinions on each song, but then over and over up popped this poster saying "you're wrong about this, you're wrong about that. So I just quit doing it, not worth the aggro.
I dont claim to be a historian, I post what I post and I dont claim to be 100% right, 100% of the time.
Anyway, I post on here because even though its a small amount of posters we are generally friendly and courteous towards each other, not try to point score. I find you the most UNfriendly of posters on here. I really dont mind anyone correcting me in a friendly way (as I would do to them).
I wasn't gonna say these things, but I have.
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https://www.memri.org/tv/pink-floyd-musician-roger-waters-sheldon-adelson-puppet-master-police-idf-murder-blacks (https://www.memri.org/tv/pink-floyd-musician-roger-waters-sheldon-adelson-puppet-master-police-idf-murder-blacks)
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Yeah I honestly think Roger has become a bit unhinged.
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I dont claim to be a historian, I post what I post and I dont claim to be 100% right, 100% of the time.
Anyway, I post on here because even though its a small amount of posters we are generally friendly and courteous towards each other, not try to point score. I find you the most UNfriendly of posters on here. I really dont mind anyone correcting me in a friendly way (as I would do to them).
I wasn't gonna say these things, but I have.
And a very Happy Christmas to you too nimrod.
I actually thought we were discussing Pink Floyd and George Harrison here.
My mistake.
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Yeah I honestly think Roger has become a bit unhinged.
I'll give Roger one thing, he's not afraid to speak out at his perceived injustices. David Gilmour never seems to say anything about anything. I wonder if he's jealous of Roger's massive songwriting income ;D
George and Roger are hypocritical IN MY OPINION !! but I dont care that much, I like the music that both men produced, (I can live without the Hare Krishna praise though).
I'm not crazy about George's or Roger's solo work but in their respective bands they wrote some great stuff. I'd even say Roger was higher in my estimation, especially as he didn't have a Lennon/McCartney to learn from. But those albums, Animals, WYWH, DSOTM, TFC, The Wall had some superb stuff and I believe they were mainly written by Roger.
That's some going :o
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generally speaking, most rich artists, rich actors, rich athletes tend to be hypocrites. Their money, in excess of anything ever needed to lead a hugely wealthy lifestyle (but who am i to decide) could be used for significant gain in many of the charities they profess to preach about. World hunger, diseases, poverty, some of the artists we talk about write songs, sometimes great songs, about helping, making a difference.
Peace and Love - War is over - We are the world
Merry Christmas fellow Beatle fans
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I'll give Roger one thing, he's not afraid to speak out at his perceived injustices. David Gilmour never seems to say anything about anything. I wonder if he's jealous of Roger's massive songwriting income ;D
George and Roger are hypocritical IN MY OPINION !! but I dont care that much, I like the music that both men produced, (I can live without the Hare Krishna praise though).
I'm not crazy about George's or Roger's solo work but in their respective bands they wrote some great stuff. I'd even say Roger was higher in my estimation, especially as he didn't have a Lennon/McCartney to learn from. But those albums, Animals, WYWH, DSOTM, TFC, The Wall had some superb stuff and I believe they were mainly written by Roger.
That's some going :o
Yeah Roger was great in Pink Floyd. Gilmore was important too but I think the overall direction seemed to be from Roger. And I don’t mind that he’s outspoken, it’s just some things I’ve seen recently he literally looks a bit like he’s untethered from the earth where we all dwell. Maybe I just mistake passion for obsession. .
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Something tells me Waters and John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) wouldn't get along too well. ;)
They both sound like strong personalities: https://nypost.com/2021/04/27/sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-calls-woke-activists-lunatics/ (https://nypost.com/2021/04/27/sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-calls-woke-activists-lunatics/)
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I'll give Roger one thing, he's not afraid to speak out at his perceived injustices. David Gilmour never seems to say anything about anything. I wonder if he's jealous of Roger's massive songwriting income
And yet Waters shared the song-writing credit with Gilmour on two of The Wall's most important (and lucrative) songs: Another Brick In The Wall and Comfortably Numb.
Maybe he was recognising the fact that Gilmour's guitar on these songs is absolutely essential to their success.
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Something tells me Waters and John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) wouldn't get along too well. ;)
They both sound like strong personalities: [url]https://nypost.com/2021/04/27/sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-calls-woke-activists-lunatics/[/url] ([url]https://nypost.com/2021/04/27/sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-calls-woke-activists-lunatics/[/url])
That’s cos Johnny has sold out man!
https://youtu.be/zvR2QiJ8wno (https://youtu.be/zvR2QiJ8wno)
God save the Queen indeed.
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^^^^
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I had no idea! That's a tad disheartening.
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generally speaking, most rich artists, rich actors, rich athletes tend to be hypocrites.
Sadly, I believe this may be true. Most of them just want to be rich and live like rich people, Roger's remark about coveting his Bentley. Johnny Rotten, his anti establishment rants now look empty. (Empty in a Bentley, haha good lyric)
Ive always admired Neil Young in a way, I didnt like his anti Trump stuff with Crosby etc. though, it was way too political. But Southern Man, Alabama and Four Dead in Ohio were about subjects even I could approve off. Especially the anti Slavery message of those 2 songs.
The Lynyrd Skynyrd song “Sweet Home Alabama” was a defense of the South’s brutal history of slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation. It was a response to Neil Young’s songs “Southern Man” and “Alabama,” which were critical of the South’s history of slavery and oppressing Black people.
In addition to defending the past actions of the South, “Sweet Home Alabama” also invoked support of infamous segregationist Governor George Wallace. I don’t know how you can conclude that, at a minimum, this song isn’t completely racist. I believe they had a Confederate flag at their shows.
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Sadly, I believe this may be true. Most of them just want to be rich and live like rich people, Roger's remark about coveting his Bentley. Johnny Rotten, his anti establishment rants now look empty. (Empty in a Bentley, haha good lyric)
Ive always admired Neil Young in a way, I didnt like his anti Trump stuff with Crosby etc. though, it was way too political. But Southern Man, Alabama and Four Dead in Ohio were about subjects even I could approve off. Especially the anti Slavery message of those 2 songs.
The Lynyrd Skynyrd song “Sweet Home Alabama” was a defense of the South’s brutal history of slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation. It was a response to Neil Young’s songs “Southern Man” and “Alabama,” which were critical of the South’s history of slavery and oppressing Black people.
In addition to defending the past actions of the South, “Sweet Home Alabama” also invoked support of infamous segregationist Governor George Wallace. I don’t know how you can conclude that, at a minimum, this song isn’t completely racist. I believe they had a Confederate flag at their shows.
Good example. Even from Roger Waters, The Gunners Dream off the Final Cut is a great social commentary song. Doesn’t bash you over the head with a political stance or anything.
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I believe they had a Confederate flag at their shows.
Well, in all fairness to some (note my qualification there) Southerners, not all who display a Confederate flag are racist. (I'm not commenting on Lynyrd Skynyrd here; I don't know enough about them.) I lived in the South two different times, for several years, and for some people it's simply a matter of pride in their heritage. Of course, that heritage includes slavery and racism, but in my experience (a) all racists endorse the Confederate flag but (b) not everyone who displays a Confederate flag is a racist.
Does that make sense? I've been at the computer too long.
Of course, I'm a born-and-bred Yankee, so what do I know. ;)
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Getting—sort of—back on topic for a bit, I see Eric Clapton has taken quite a bit of flak from fellow musicians and fans for his recent political (i.e., anti-lockdown and anti-vax) songs and statements.
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Good example. Even from Roger Waters, The Gunners Dream off the Final Cut is a great social commentary song. Doesn’t bash you over the head with a political stance or anything.
Thats my favourite song on there. Beautiful song.
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Well, in all fairness to some (note my qualification there) Southerners, not all who display a Confederate flag are racist. (I'm not commenting on Lynyrd Skynyrd here; I don't know enough about them.) I lived in the South two different times, for several years, and for some people it's simply a matter of pride in their heritage. Of course, that heritage includes slavery and racism, but in my experience (a) all racists endorse the Confederate flag but (b) not everyone who displays a Confederate flag is a racist.
Does that make sense? I've been at the computer too long.
Of course, I'm a born-and-bred Yankee, so what do I know. ;)
Of course not, but theres something a bit weird displaying a bloody great flag at a music concert.
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Of course not, but theres something a bit weird displaying a bloody great flag at a music concert.
I was thinking that, because they identify as a Southern rock band (right? someone correct me if I'm wrong), it's not that unusual. That's all.
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Getting—sort of—back on topic for a bit, I see Eric Clapton has taken quite a bit of flak from fellow musicians and fans for his recent political (i.e., anti-lockdown and anti-vax) songs and statements.
Also I saw something about him suing some grandmother for illegal downloads or the like. ???
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Thats my favourite song on there. Beautiful song.
Mine too icon_good
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Also I saw something about him suing some grandmother for illegal downloads or the like. ???
This? https://people.com/music/eric-clapton-wins-lawsuit-against-widow-who-sold-bootleg-cd/ (https://people.com/music/eric-clapton-wins-lawsuit-against-widow-who-sold-bootleg-cd/)
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This? [url]https://people.com/music/eric-clapton-wins-lawsuit-against-widow-who-sold-bootleg-cd/[/url] ([url]https://people.com/music/eric-clapton-wins-lawsuit-against-widow-who-sold-bootleg-cd/[/url])
That’s it!
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This? [url]https://people.com/music/eric-clapton-wins-lawsuit-against-widow-who-sold-bootleg-cd/[/url] ([url]https://people.com/music/eric-clapton-wins-lawsuit-against-widow-who-sold-bootleg-cd/[/url])
What a flog...